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evgeniy, if writing inspiration were a person, what would yours look like? i have a special relationship with inspiration , i probably don’t have it, i rather have an idea, efficiency, composure, these are the things that are probably for other people warehouse, but if it existed, then to me it would definitely look like three blondes, like this, like this, like this height, my guest is a very unusual person, he worked... as loaders, watchmen, waiters,
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drivers, security guards, this is not a complete list of his professional searches. my guest recently published the novel “the feather shark in the ussr”, and is now preparing the next edition. my guest is journalist, writer, evgeniy kabba. evgeniy, hello, good afternoon. i am very glad to have the opportunity to get to know you better, well, let’s start, probably, with the very started from childhood. i know that you were born into a very unusual family. and your writing you inherited your talent from your grandparents, is that true? if talent exists in principle, then probably yes, you can probably say this, i really respect my ancestors, they are really worthy people, probably yes. evgeniy, your grandparents, who are they? well, thank god, i have a lot of grandparents, but probably the ones we’re talking about are ruslan khaneevich kabba, a famous abkhaz writer, biographer, he compiled... wrote biographies and literary criticism
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on the works of a huge number of national figures national culture abkhazia, writers there, cultural experts, and so on, uh, about, well , i’m afraid to make a mistake, there are probably 46 books on his shelf, and i still have a very long way to reach this ideal, uh, and olga vladimirovna mnukhina, sborovskaya , volokh, i don’t know how to say correctly when i was a girl, now olga vladimirovna volokh, this is my maternal grandmother, she can be said to be an amateur composer and composition... a huge number of scripts for collections for preschool age, probably the entire calendar year of matinees, which in kindergarten she has, so a person widely known in narrow circles of belarus, let's say, yeah, well, now i understand that there is nothing surprising that you , so to speak, showed interest in writing, but i wonder how your father ended up in belarus? yes, probably, like many, in fact, my parents met in moscow, moscow state university named after lomonosov, they studied there, she studied psychology, he studied mechanical engineering, that’s where they met. that is, they
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lived in abkhazia for some time, and when all the processes began, the tragic processes associated with the collapse of the soviet union and with local conflicts, let’s put it this way, well, my mother moved here, and well, we lived here for a long time, but we never lost contact with abkhazia and continue to visit there constantly, but that’s not all, besides everything other than that, your parents were teachers, and they had very strict rules, is that true? that as a child you were forbidden to watch tv, but it simply wasn’t there, well, i think that my father did quite right, because a lot of what was on tv in the nineties was well, the products were of dubious quality, and besides, my brother had problems with his eyesight, and i had nightmares at night, and he just got rid of the tv for religious reasons, we had an extensive library, you didn’t suffer in any way because of
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the lack of tv, well, maybe it was more difficult to discuss some topics with peers, but nevertheless it gave me an individual approach to life, and besides , you can always run off there to watch grandmas, well, wait, i don’t know, they avoided ban, yeah not only did they bypass it, but there was no ban on watching tv. content, let's say, well, that's probably right, but how old were you when - you showed interest in writing, and how to write, you learned how to write, well, i was telling stories, it happened, well, for 7 years, i was probably telling stories with since childhood and it was very difficult to distinguish between truth and fiction at times, i remember such a case as a child, when i had just started first grade and, as usual , i stupidly boasted in a childish way that i had five satellite tv dishes at home, i came home. like, where are my satellite tv dishes, that is, well, telling stories is kind of my story, well, annoying people with endless conversations is enough, well, rude, so i started writing, everything is clear, the lack of tv provoked your fantasy, to some extent
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, well, yes, yes, probably so , but how did your parents and grandparents react to your attempt at writing , well, my first proofreader was probably like this, well, a betarider, you can say - it was always my mother, that is, she shot the comma, if with literacy in basically no problems sometimes with punctuation, and well, of course, i gave some of them to read, in general it was perceived quite loyally, well, that is , you can say, yes in principle, but i was always quite demanding of myself and the fact that i didn’t like me gave. nevertheless, you did not become a writer right away, almost becoming a priest, it is said loudly, but there was such a possibility, why did you change your decision? yes, in fact, it somehow happened that in our family, well, such areas of activity, yes, they are mainly connected either with science, or with, well, one might say, with the civil service in various manifestations, and well, with religion, including, probably , too, well, that was kind of the choice, in general, on reflection, i still realized that i can’t handle this, probably, in order to be a clergyman, you need to have a lot
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of worldly experience first of all, and to grow to some spiritual level, this is a very serious matter, it’s like, well, besides, i’ve always been interested in this subject as history, besides, in our family it was great for teachers to enroll in faculty of history, i think i was right, i’m still sure of it, on your page on social networks you write, i’ll read it, by profession, teacher, journalist, guide, organizer, event host, loader, car washer, gravedigger, camera assistant band saw, driver, auxiliary worker, watchman, security guard, waiter, bartender's assistant, operator ev, camp cook, ellipsis. well , now the question: was it a search for oneself or some difficult life circumstances, there is no shameful work, there is shameful idleness, yes, that is, i
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i never thought that any way to earn money was a legal way, and naturally, as if morally justified, yes, it could be something bad, it was quite funny when you and i listened to a friend, now my godfather, lyokha, being a student faculty of history, carried cast-iron bathtubs and talked about reasons. this is not easy work, yes, but at the same time we talked with him about the reasons for the collapse of the austro-enger empire, two such pumped up guys, it means in a shopping center, these girls are looking at us, what’s going on, torn jeans, t-shirts like that, which means that there are conversations there approximately on the topic there, in the genre that you are writing about, yes, yes, this is approximately how it was, that is, in different periods of life, yes, well, when i was already old enough, i didn’t want to take money from my parents, and even working as a teacher, let’s be honest, but having a family, i had to earn money. so, well, this list could continue there, naturally, i didn’t do it all at the same time, but yes, it’s not interesting, but how,
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how can you explain this number of professions than, someone comes and works in one place all their life, well, that’s how it is. they were looking, i wasn’t looking, well, that’s how it worked out, that’s how it worked out, let’s just say, yes, yes, that is, it’s normal, it happened that way, i needed money at that moment, my comrades went to work part-time at a car wash, i went, got a job, worked, caught a cold, there, well, let’s say, i don’t know, there’s something else there, that is, or there - they worked in one place, they invited , they needed to bury someone, well, that means it’s necessary, well, someone else needs to do it, but by the way, how did you end up in the grave, and quite by accident, it would have been me when i was almost a teenager, there we, uh, ask there, we worked in another place, in general. and there were no workers, it was winter, the ground was frozen and all that, as if they asked us guys, you can, well, we can, people are in trouble, so what should we do, evgeniya, did all this large number of professions later come in handy for you to create literary images? of course, yes, of course, uh, in no way am i basing my books and
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characters on real people, it’s all written based on motives, but to have motives? as if, after all, this is such a sedimentation of some kind of life observations, and meetings, yes , yes, yes, yes, yes, that is, something catches, some character, a person, uh, the environment, himself, the surroundings itself what is happening, for example, at this sawmill, where, well, yes, it can come from this. but at the same time, this pilogram may end up in space, that is, it is not necessary that it will be directly in our realities, that is, sometimes, in order to see the most interesting thing, it needs to be considered in an array the rest. also interesting, i believe
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that at all ceremonial events, the national anthem should be performed in full , independence is a relative concept, but we, we have this independence, we have sovereignty, at the same time we sovereignly diversify our dependence, which is called multi-vector, but in essence it’s just logic , the global goal of our sovereign right is to create combinations of interdependencies, to make sure that our... interdependence with the world is as beneficial to us as possible. igor's author's view tour to the main events in the country on the international stage. watch the propaganda project on tv channel belarus 24.
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classicism. tell the belarusians that you won’t get a chance, because dastatkova will come to our capital, the prices are on the right side, if you please, as if with your soul, what a geta is. glyadzice on our tv channel. during your professional trial and error, did you continue to write? yes with different frequencies, right? what about you did you write? what was it? well, let’s do this, now the second book has come out, yes, mine, it’s called lieutenant, it’s an alternative history, somewhat abstract and parallel to our world, one might say, but events are happening there that echo ours, so let’s say i wrote this book almost 10 years ago years, that is, once every three months... or once a month or once every six months, a topic came to me for another short story, but how can
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one say so, it was written according to the mood, or it was, was in demand at one time vkontakte, in the sense of a social network, yes, horror stories, horror stories, there were almost a million views there, as far as i remember, there was, there were some, that is, scary stories, so that people would be afraid, read there, that is , well, these were different samples, and not everything is far from it was published there in an electronic version, but something was done, i wonder, for children? you write, these are horror stories, now i was prompted by this question, i have a draft , now i’m - now i’m writing a fairy tale about a babaika, the fact is that i have two daughters, they asked me to tell them a tale about a babaika, and i i told them this fairy tale, and then i thought how it could be for adults, well, yes, and it , well, as they say now, fell into place, that is , it turned out, but from a children’s fairy tale, it turned out to be a very rollicking story, now it’s being used, well, thank god, there is decent demand, but how often have you heard refusals from publishing houses, and
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how did you react to this? well, first of all, we live in belarus, so let’s speak frankly, i don’t know how, as for fiction, russian-language literature, then it is quite difficult to publish here in principle, that’s why, after stumbling around several times, i realized that, in principle, now the format works, now it all works a little differently , i decided that i would write several, well, in my opinion, worthy books and go to some of them, which is actually my manuscripts i practically didn’t send it, probably , only about 19 years ago, from the turn of the century, as the belarusians say, yes, that is, it was, well , unjustified, let’s say, absolutely an act, it was. presumptuous, i understand that, now, well, sort of, that’s why i haven’t often heard refusals from publishers, because i don’t i often sent them something, you defined the genre in which you write as literary impressionism, uh, what does it mean when we take impressionism, in the visual arts, yes, it’s something real that has some supernatural features, well, let’s to say so, yes, but it is passed through the individuality of the author, the impression,
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of course, yes, of course, and as he says, we don’t know how to produce anything, we only produce impressions, right? what we do, we make an impression with our deeds, yes, yes, yes, that’s true, that’s it, it turns out i’m trying to make a book so that it has, let’s say, three layers, the first layer is just some kind of dashing adventure, yes, which a person reads and has fun, and the plot, well , just a person reads, linearly absolutely has fun, the second layer is like this allusions, homages, references, reminiscences, and to certain elements of culture or our way of life, which made an impression on me, but passed through personal experience. and when a person looks, oh, that means skvoreshnya, surname, skvoreshnya - this is from the secret of two oceans, the foreman was there, yes, he is hooked by it and he begins to pull it out, he has his own association, childhood, this is a book and so on, or some movie, yes, not on purpose, literally like this, well, the third layer - this is really some kind of well, this is an emotional philosophical component, this is a person who is already thinking a little
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, i don’t know whether it works or not, but i’m trying, literary impressionism, well, it originated somewhere at the end of the nineteenth century, yes, well, through for 100 years you have revived this direction, i don’t know whether it’s a success or not, i classified it this way, i want to believe in it, i want to believe that i am reviving it, on the same social networks you write that don’t set your sights on writing a masterpiece and the program is at least different, what? minimu program, as there is such a good phrase, widely known in narrow circles, to form my own audience that would be on the same wavelength with me and that would draw inspiration for themselves from my work. emotional, some kind of warm emotion, yes, in principle, well, in our time it is quite important to be able to be distracted, but loaded with information, loaded with difficult events, yes, if thanks to my books someone thinks that it’s good to be good, bad to be bad , then that’s it, everything is being done in the right direction, but nevertheless a counter question arises, i understood the minimum program, but the maximum program exists
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, yes, i want to write at least one book that will be sold everywhere, i have a rough idea of what it will be, but i won’t write it right away, but much later, because it requires a lot of life experience and uh, well, how else do i need grow up, definitely, i'm on now i’m not capable of this, but for some reason i’m sure that this will happen, let’s hope, i wish this for you, thank you, i hope that this will work out, although it was 2 years later, having published the novel feast shark in the ussr, the minimum program has been completed or no, the very audience that is reading me now says that yes, i am not inclined to idealize this book, i see a lot of its shortcomings. it was simply written at the right time, in the right wave , probably, well, its content, yes, this parochialism, this is the message that i said, yes, you need to do it the way you need to, but no matter how it should be, there’s no need to do it, she probably kind of played it, well, the main character of the novel shark in the ussr, a journalist, yeah, well, it’s clear that
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you didn’t live in soviet times, but where did you get the information for the novel, and firstly , i’m a historian and... i couldn’t do without some kind of mini-research, secondly, i’m lucky to work now with wonderful people, both the older and middle generation, and of course, many, i listened to their stories and was inspired, but on the other hand, let’s let's be honest, i live in a small town, and i spent my childhood there in the nineties, early 2000, and it’s not that far removed from the period i’m describing, but what turned out to be the most difficult to describe, well, what details, i don’t know, the images were the most difficult? the hardest thing was not to laugh when you describe romantic scenes, i can’t, this is not my topic, but this certainly should be in every, well, adventure genre books, a romantic line, yes, some kind of relationship, it’s sitting and not laughing, it was very it’s hard, but the fact is that in this genre, it also needs to be approached somehow presentation of this situation, yes, yes, well, it was quite difficult, and well, so that your wife
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would not laugh at the time, too, as it were, how did the readers receive your novel, what are the reviews? you communicate on social networks, of course, i am very active, i really like conversations about literature , so i really love communicating with my readers, they are the best people in the world, gold simply, because they give me, well, faith in what i do, that this is normal, this is exactly the book, but it’s based on an alternative history in the soviet style, yes, but it’s probably 10 or 15 times better than any of my dear books reached people, and indeed, now for the last 2 years the topic of the soviet union is, in principle, very popular, among the masses. art in internet literature, in particular, on this wave, yes, that is, he just asked me , well, he didn’t ask me either, one of the authors with whom i communicate online, he said, zhenya, take it, write three chapters, and you’ll see . he read my other books, and in particular, me and the soviet union - this is not my surroundings, i didn’t live, i don’t know, now all these people who
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it means they’re nostalgic there, they’ll get hooked, that means, well, i’m okay, try it, well, i tried it, and well, really, this book is 10 or 15 times larger than the readership it gathered , yes, than any other, now there’s already a fairy tale about a babayka , which collected the same amount, but in addition to the fact that you are a writer, you are also a journalist, you work in a river newspaper, and there, unlike... novels, you have to write about very real things, what topic do you cover? we, i am the city editor, yes, my the diocese is basically an industrial enterprise and public utilities in general, and also, as it were, some bright personalities that we have, i now have the pleasure of communicating, meeting, and, well, such a section as i have tested on myself, that is, getting into a combine harvester is not it worked out so far, unfortunately, but i climbed into a snowplow and rode with it. or ride through the forest with a forester all day, one day with a forester was very cool, not with a forester, with a forester, it’s a big difference, to ride in a field through all these wilds in the forests, all these things, this
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here is my story, the soviet journalist from your novel, he is somewhat similar to you, how are you similar, what are your differences? well, okay, i have nothing to be ashamed of, the soviet journalist from my novel is a much more courageous and sharp guy, i am an intelligent, well-mannered person, i don’t like to hit people, for example, although i was involved in boxing, but this is not my style, in the book the character often has to be let into moves, fists, including, well, yes, this is a man, well, love scenes, something james bond, you're footwear, strict monogamy, this is in my book, he has one and only beloved woman, and i adhere to this, i think this is correct, and i will definitely push these ideas to the masses, i heard that now you are preparing another book for publication, what is it about, it has already been published, 3 weeks ago i received the first author’s copy, the book is called lieutenant, it is written in the style of alternative history, the action takes place in a parallel world, which at the same time is similar to
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us, and the events there echo the events of our civil war, angloburg war, well, there is quite a large layer of the late 19th, early 20th centuries, you can probably call it a genre, well, this is a little out of character, but nevertheless, something like this, yes, it was published in four well written volumes of this books and gradually they are preparing for publication, mainly with the advent of success in popularity, many strive to move to the capital closer to greater opportunities, audience, media, but on the contrary, you remain faithful to the speech, is this some kind of fundamental point? firstly, i’m not popular and not successful, that is, by level even those internet authors who are functioning now, even within belarus, we have wonderful writers who have. much more than mine, and secondly, uh, yes, i like the province, but if we take it objectively, then all of belarus is a province, in the good sense of the word, that
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is, that parochialism, that soulfulness that is, of course, it’s expensive, and well, the fact that i now live in rechitsa, it was not my choice initially, but it turned out that way, well, that is, i came back, returned, but i adore my city, i adore these people, of course, of course, i’m kind of proud of being the people of rechka, of being a provincial, and what do you like about the provinces, what do i like? the trick is that the smaller the place you live in, the more people you know, when you go to the doctor, you know what kind of doctor he is, when you go to a cafe, you know what kind of borista he is, there is always something behind you, a certain reputation, and this certain thing, in a big city, people are much less inclined to notice each other in principle, they hide behind a function, to bring a person to the personal level in a small locality is much simpler, it costs a lot, that is. i do not rule out the possibility of moving to another city, but i will always have a love for my small homeland and small towns. and by the way, here you are on the networks, you also said that you love all your three homelands, well, a person
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has one homeland, it seems, and you have three, how did it happen, i am a russian-speaking abkhazian, who was born in belarus. all clear. we work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to keep you up to date with the latest events in the country and the world. in addition, our team of journalists obtains valuable knowledge from experts on how to maintain and increase health. there is also room for entertainment. every friday we bring to your attention the best projects. and films of our tv channel, this and much more awaits you in the weekly project ether 24.7, watch on the tv channel belarus
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24. each of the heroes of the project, new people , chose their own path and achieved their first great success. he cut his first icon in secret, we, in principle, should start with a simple gradually, step by step , we climb up, and he himself, at home, quietly carved this icon, brought it to me and showed it to me. talented and brave people are always ready to learn something new. he loves to work out the details. he is the kind of person who admires every element of his canvas, he begins to play , and you know, like a fakir who hypnotizes a cobra with a pipe, in exactly the same way lyosha worked wonders with the audience, today they are the pride of the country, at performances i don’t even i expected him to play like that, assertively, without no embarrassment, everything is clean, about the new generation of belarusians, look at the project: on
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the tv channel belarus 24. evgeniy, what irritates you in the capital? i’ve just arrived in minsk and nothing here irritates me yet. the capital may probably be formulated a little incorrectly, yes, in principle, probably in large cities in megacities, yes, yes - in megacities people think that they can afford much more, then how will he behave on the street, how will he be dressed, how will he - present yourself, yes, i saw this man i moved on, but this moment is quite serious, plus i really like greenery, well, i like forests, i like
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rivers, i want to see this right here in front of me, and when this complete grayness, or yes, here i am recently i was in moscow, and in the winter, and it so happened that i just got out of the metro and saw huge buildings, narrow streets, i almost got clausrophobia, well, maybe it’s really mine, again, the word is provincial, how many times has it been said, yes, but i really like the space, by the way, in minsk has it, yes, that is, it’s really huge, you don’t feel this heavy pressure that exists in other cities, i know, evgeniy, that you have a dream, so to speak, to travel around belarus, to cross it lengthwise and crosswise, your dream came true, along and across no, although uh, that means, i had experience, yes, i had experience, let’s say i went to brest and from brest i traveled by diesel, well, by electric train, by cross-border trains, back to rechitsa, that is in principle, i crossed along, in brest, in vitebsk, too, but not yet to borslav i got there, let’s say, now i’ve acquired this enchanted place for me, somehow i never manage to get there, that is why,
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well, it’s the opposite. yes, well, in belarus there are actually a lot of amazing cool places and sometimes you shouldn’t look for miracles somewhere very far away, but let’s say at the age of 30 i discovered that next to the river there is a natural monument of the century-old rechensky district, forty-meter huge trees, and well, i lived there all my life and didn’t see this, that is, from our belarus exactly like in which you have already managed to visit interesting places from the last one in the brest region, the puslovsky palace, i was simply shocked, just this one... when you get off, take a bus out of the forest, you get out and see this huge community, it’s fantastic, this is from the last one exactly, that is, well, well, mozyr i love the city, it’s a very beautiful, mountainous city, maybe my akhazian soul rejoices, i don’t know, but at that moment when you also drive up to mozyr and see these hills, it’s fantastic of course yes mozr is beautiful, and if we take minsk, then the place where i take minsk residents is the crypt under the cathedral of all saints, it turns out that there is earth in capsules from different places, key places
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, that is, from fokusima, for example, from chernobyl and so on, an amazing place under the cathedral of all saints, it is made of faience, there is such an amazing thing inside, i take the imenites there, i can’t help but ask about one more point in your biography, i quote: i live with three beautiful blondes, reveal the intrigue, who are these blondes? well these are the most beautiful girls in the world, of course, this is my wife and two daughters, yes, well, for me this is actually a great fantasy, a great joy, i just couldn’t imagine there, let’s say at 17 years old, that my personal life would turn out this way and well, if you take it - a flight to the moon, let’s say, and elon musk and my family are there on the ship - these are about the same level of things for me, that’s why it’s so approximately, well, that is, it’s clear that spending time in bed with three blondes, imagined it a little differently, but nevertheless it seemed indeed, this is a great joy for me , probably my most important success in life, so are you on a space flight now?
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