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to host a republican conference on women's health, it is held jointly with the ministry of health of the republic of belarus. at this conference, women will be able to familiarize themselves with all the services of our medical centers and ask questions to our speakers on any issues of interest. on the stage of our pavilion there will be shows of belarusian designers, so on this site it will be possible... to purchase these products, which our visitors will see on our stage, learn more about the programs, partners and exhibitors, as well as you can register on the website lediexpo.by, places are limited. my colleagues will have more information at 15:00. with this i say goodbye to you, all the best. my history, nature,
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culture, faith, people, wickedness, you will never forget once and never forget, everything here is right for us. hello, the program “sas with authority to declare” is on air. i am the presenter nadezhda sas, i greet you. let me remind you that this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of the country and each of us. about the fracture we’ll talk about western perceptions of the zelsky regime and the prospects for war later. key
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events in world politics this week. the west’s flirtation with ukrainian neo-nazis was bound to end in a scandal sooner or later, but it happened during the ukrainian president’s visit to canada, where immediately after zelsky’s speech in parliament, one of the speakers proposed honoring the veteran of the struggle for ukrainian independence against the russians. the only problem is that a ninety-year-old man in his youth fought against the russians as part of a che volunteer division in wafen sss, where he took the oath of allegiance to adolf hitler, so the ovation given to him in the canadian parliament by millions of jews, russians, belarusians, and poles around the world was perceived as a personal insult. moreover, in the canadian parliament itself, the leader of the ruling majority turned out to be the daughter of a jew who miraculously escaped during the holocaust. as a result , she, along with other colleagues, achieved the resignation of the speaker, who invited the man to parliament. that. and takes full responsibility
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upon himself, and the jew zelsky, whose grandfather is in the ranks the red army fought with the essovites, is silent, as they are silent in washington, london, paris and berlin, only the polish government announced that it would seek the extradition of the almost century-old essovets for trial. germany is temporarily reinstating passport controls at its borders with poland and the czech republic, citing a surge in illegal migrants into the country. since the beginning of the year, 203,000 people have applied for refugee status in germany, which is 77% more than in the same period last year. warsaw responded by saying that the germans should reconsider the rules for granting political asylum towards their tightening, instead of creating artificial difficulties at the border. but the left-liberal government of germany is not going to abandon the practice, which is based on the ideology of turning germany into a racially mixed country. and blames everything on
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the czech republic and especially poland, whose diplomats have recently been involved in issuing visas to africans and asians for bribes. a poll conducted by the washington post and abc showed a ten percent lead for donald. trump in a hypothetical competition with incumbent us president joe biden. if elections were held in the near future, the current owner of the white house would score less than forty. 2% of the vote, and his predecessor 51. all measurements show an unsatisfactory assessment of the americans and the work of the current president. approximately 56% of respondents are dissatisfied with biden’s course; about 70% of us citizens consider the president’s advanced age to be a serious problem for his re-election. it is no coincidence that more and more representatives of the establishment are inside the democratic party are calling on biden to withdraw from the election and nominate another candidate who... could confidently defeat trump.
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today we will once again talk about ukraine. i’ll start, perhaps, with a quote from the novel great kiev, long banned by the ukrainian authorities. white guard. elena sighed heavily, looked at her watch, was silent, then spoke again: lord, lord, if the germans had not done this meanness, everything would have been fine, two of their regiments are enough to crush this looper of yours like a fly. no, i see that the germans are playing some kind of vile double game, why are there no vaunted allies. oh, scoundrels, they promised, they promised. his brothers. looked at the stove, the answer, here it is, the allies are bastards, and those from zelsky’s team who read bulgakov probably recalled these words from the novel on the way from new york, why the west began to turn away from the ukrainian authorities, and what
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consequences this will have for the dynamics of the conflict, oleg gaidukevich, deputy of the house of representatives, will help me look for answers to these questions in today’s program national assembly of the republic of belarus, chairman. democratic party of belarus. hello. good afternoon. vadim aleksandrovich maslikov, expert at the bureau of military-political analysis, corresponding member of the academy of military sciences of russia is with us today. greetings. good afternoon everyone. in addition, people's deputy of the verkhovna rada of ukraine of the ninth convocation, candidate of political sciences, diplomat, oleg valushin, joins our broadcast. oleg, greetings. hello. by tradition, we begin our discussion with a blitz question. olekgevi. do you think there is a feeling that the west is tired of ukraine, of zelensky, of rhetoric, of the war in general, but someone is tired, but i have no illusions that we are nearing the end of the war in ukraine, because america would like to continue
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there is as much of it as possible, it is beneficial for them, they would also like for europe to burn, for there to be more serbia and kosovo, for armenia and azerbaijan to surround russia, for there to be a conflict, and for everything to burn. decades, so there is fatigue among europeans, but who asks them, no one asks them, politicians we are forced to listen to people’s opinions, they start some kind of rhetoric, such as peace initiatives, some conversations that something needs to be reconsidered somehow, because people ask questions, but they are not independent, germany is the decision itself will not accept, lithuania and poland even more so, so no one will ask europe at all, their opinion on the conflict, vadim aleksandrovich, your opinion on this matter. tell me, please, is this not a change in tactics for certain goals? rubbish, of course, yes, the west is tired, we see it in general - a clear manifestation expressed in statistics, roughly speaking, yes , in questions, and so on, and he can’t help but get tired
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, in fact, this is quite understandable, yes, no doubt, this is the basis for a change in tactics, and even some operational space , strictly speaking in politics. what is happening today in ukraine, in europe and in the world. thank you, oleg. let's talk about plans and goals first of all, because we hear today from the western press that interest is not in continuing the hot phase of the current conflict, but about its freezing. do you think there is support for this vision of developments in europe or the west in general? well, i’ll still say that, in my opinion , there was no willingness to agree on anything today in the west , and here i agree with my respected belarusian colleague, the fatigue today is more likely due to specific individuals, or rather from that role, which these individuals
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tried to play, that the actor zelensky at some point tried to become the director of this show, and he was very clearly reminded of that he cannot be a director in the global ... in general, and even within ukraine, his role has been exaggerated lately, and hence the talk about the possibility of elections there, the possibility of replacing him, and so on, and at the same time readiness for something... or negotiate with russia, there is no western side, but the most important thing, it seems to me, is that in moscow today, at the stage of the conflict that we have, there is no readiness to simply freeze something, but there is an understanding of what exactly, that no one needs freezing, it really doesn’t what is needed today is neither russia nor the west, but what is needed is some kind of transition to a stage where it is possible, namely full-fledged agreements that will ensure some kind of sustainable peace, yes, for the ukrainians who die every day, but just like they used to say , they simply stop shooting, this would already be a success, in my understanding, but the key players, of course
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, see it completely differently and let’s say that neither russia has yet solved any of its strategic tasks at the moment, much less the west. at least i didn't give up hope to solve these strategic tasks at russia’s expense, so simply freezing them now is unrealistic in principle. oleg, have you heard the statement? our state will already be moving from a parliamentary-presidential model to a presidential model with a strong leader, just the other day this statement appeared, what does this mean in your opinion? says that this is mr. kornienko, they have this one, the whole first vice-speaker of parliament, with the appearance of, you know, a frequent visitor, a liqueur in a grocery store, this... well, he actually expressed it
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some kind of abstract thought, because for a long time in ukraine they have been trying to build not just a presidential model, but actually a dictatorship, where the fate of people is decided at the bank, even those who, like some of my colleagues, who betrayed the principle that that their people were once elected to the verkhovna rada, they were on the same list as me, they tried for a year and a half to start a completely opposite pro-western agenda, it didn’t save them, they still ended up where they ended up undergrowth. well, we’ll talk about the difficult relationship that is developing today between the leadership of the united states of america and ukraine in more detail , no longer an idol, why the united states of america has cooled towards zelensky, as well as about the unsuccessful visit of the president of ukraine to his overseas curator, we’ll tell you in our story . end of western aid, victory. russia and fatigue from ukraine. this is approximately how many media assessed the recent visit of vladimir zelsky
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to the united states. first of all, the meeting was dubbed a failure because of the assistance that kiev received, or rather, i didn’t receive it. during his visit to the united states, zelsky hoped to receive the previously promised $24 billion. this is exactly how much joe biden requested from congress back in august, but in reality, the amount turned out to be 70 times less, barely reaching 325 million. the new package of military assistance to kiev is estimated at $128 million, plus ukraine will receive weapons and equipment worth another 197 million dollars, these are air defense systems, artillery ammunition, protection against armored vehicles and cluster munitions, we will be united with ukraine, since it provides their future, but is it possible to talk about unity when the aid figures are literally melting before our eyes? this is a rhetorical question ; at the same time, the audience willing to listen to demands for arms supplies has shrunk; more and more people are getting tired of the constant reproaches of
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insufficient help from the ukrainian side, thus, in the us congress, voices of dissatisfaction with washington’s excessive spending on ukraine can already be heard. according to many politicians, there are now enough problems within the country, including economic ones, and constant cash injections into another country don't make the situation better. zelsky, who was elected to congress, is our president. i’m not going to promise anything, i have questions for him: where is the accountability for the money that we have already spent, what is the plan to achieve victory, i think this is what the american public wants to know, and even on the day of zelensky’s arrival in the usa, the american media immediately made it clear that this visit would not be successful, for example, they published failed ukrainian operations and evidence of ukraine’s guilt in the deaths of civilians, but experts do not believe in the moral direction and most likely the reason for the changes is completely different. perhaps these
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meetings did not go so well, since the investment opportunities in ukraine are unpromising, why? because the richest regions and industrial base of ukraine are located in territories that russia controls and will control. olek sergeevich, a year and a half has passed and the masks have been dropped. i think today the ukrainian elite, the so-called. what was the goal of this, rather mutually beneficial, yes, practice of cooperation, and it’s not for nothing that very often ukraine were called an offor of the united states of america, and today we see that, rather for the united states of america, this game is already coming to its logical conclusion, that is , everything they wanted from ukraine, they received, for the first time... juices, which in the form ukraine
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can still provide grain, and the same supplies, and even this no longer belongs to ukrainian farmers, but to american transnational corporations and others. but let's just tell the truth, the ukrainian elites did not wake up, they knew everything perfectly well, they they knew that they were being used, this is their crime , no one deceived them, they bought a pitchfork for a lot of money, daughters, daughters, and as much as they bought for themselves, they all got rich, they sold the country in advance and no one deceived them in this crime of theirs, otherwise
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someone will now think what naive people are sitting there at the bank, but they did everything consciously. this is their crime, the ukrainian people will ask them sooner or later, now about the americans, it has always been like this, this is their tool, they don’t care about ukraine, they don’t care about belarus, they don’t care about france, poland, lithuania, no nato amendment will ever work, article, they will not fight for the poles, ukrainians, lithuanians, tomorrow a rocket will fall in poland, the americans will never fight for them, they will give a rocket, they will print dollars, a tool, they have their own internal problems before the elections , they have their own interests, for them the task is one: to prolong the conflict as long as possible, it is possible, if it can be done with less money, for god’s sake, america has never believed in the victory of ukraine and does not believe, only a madman can believe in
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victory over the nuclear great power of russia, this is a fairy tale for fools, no one in europe believes in this, who understands anything, not the americans and... the task is war, as long as possible the war: to weaken the european union, to weaken russia, weakening china is geopolitics, unfortunately, the fate of the ukrainian people, ukraine, in order for them to live well, is of least interest to the americans, but the truth is, everything else is their internal squabbles as well. vladimir alexandrovich, on the threshold of the presidential elections in america, the political elite is splitting, and indeed, ukraine has become a stumbling block. 30 senators and members of the house, representatives from the republican party spoke in favor of withdrawing any support, for stopping any support, to the kiev regime, from their statement it follows that the american people are not sponsoring freedom and democracy, but ukrainian corruption and theft, so we saw in our story , mr. macarthy’s statement, but what do you
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think, will the democrats cope with such a wave of criticism and not contribute to it... and increase, change of candidate in the upcoming elections in the united states of america. the matter of elections, democracy, let us also remember plato and aristotle, this is always a lie, these are, in general, some tactically temporary moves, as it were, that close the possibility of seeing strategy from us, so yes, there will be a lot of compromising evidence now, a friend has been found on a friend, a person, everything else, it seems, yes, but it closes us off... strategies, yes, pointless, i repeat once again that society is tired of corruption and for some reason incomprehensible injections, incomprehensible, because they require an explanation of where our money went, and so on, and you can play on this, opponents are playing, this is quite real, quite understandable, objectively, in general, expected, but the fact is that you asked me last time,
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but isn’t zelensky a change of tactics, but that is, fatigue from zelensky ’s change of tactics, yes, no point, you need to look at the essence, the essence is that not the top and not... level, but one of the fairly acceptable levels of explanation of the analytical events that are happening is the following, what strictly speaking, the development of capitalism in the western world always occurs through competition and america understands , that is, their analytical data, statistics show that, in general, the dynamics of growth, and their, the eu, there, china, centers of power, are beginning to slip, it is losing , in general, what needs to be done, they have said more than once in plain text, we would like to have a war like this again, that is , to find a seething center again, throw basically the powder of war there and pump in money, it seems to me they are their own goal reached, kiril molchanov joins us, director of the institute for the study of the consequences of the war in ukraine. kiril, well, you must admit that the united states has already achieved the redistribution of world markets in its favor and has actually
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gained control over europe, both politically and economically, and the american military presence in europe is increasing, the american military-industrial complex has received orders that one could not even dream of before could, the question is what did ukraine get in return, well, what did ukraine get, pain, suffering, loss of territories, yes, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of ruined destinies, the absence, most likely, of prospects for a normal life for an entire generation, i think that’s what ukraine got , but here... the ukrainian state is like a country of a useful idiot, or a country of comics, yes, because, well, where else
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it was possible to find junior partners who would stand for some western interests, values, break the russian wall in their foreheads, who, relatively speaking, would take responsibility for all those various terrorist attacks, sabotage, which are most likely, i think, western intelligence services carried out on the territory of russia , yes, that is, let’s say mi6 there, i don’t know, blew up gas pipelines there or there, committed a number of terrorist attacks there or carried out strikes with certain drones, in kiev they will gladly take responsibility for this. let's talk more about what kind of financial assistance ukraine planned to receive, what kind of assistance it will actually receive in the near future, especially since we understand that quite a large number of american politicians, yes, they are mostly republicans, but they demand an account for the money spent. and while the biden administration and the pentagon have notified that more than $100 billion is needed in the next 14 months to support military action on
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the territory of ukraine, let us pay attention to the table with the amount of funding that ukraine has received from the west since the beginning of the special military operation, 150 billion dollars, oleg, olegin has connections with us, oleg, 150 billion. the question really arises: most of this money was stolen, well , this is the practice of ukraine, but dispose of the financial assistance, in general support, that she received from anyone. the other part was spent on military operations, about this report , which we are increasingly hearing about from overseas partners, do you think this report will be provided, or, you know, the corruption... american ukrainian is so tied up that it seems easier to me, you know, to leave this question unanswered, well, you’re absolutely right, it’s hard
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to believe that all these 150 billion in real money ended up in kiev, no matter how there was a thieving ukrainian elite, such huge money, it would simply be impossible, let’s say, to simply steal, if the truth were not that most of this money did not leave the west, it was simply transferred from one pocket in the west to another pocket , in this sense, it’s true that ukraine was beneficial before, just to a much smaller extent, the establishment, primarily the democratic party, is connected there with the soros foundation and other structures there, such as usaid and so on, and then there’s a war, but before again there is nothing new in this, enormous amounts of money were, and are, allocated to support the syrian opposition to support various rebel and terrorist movements there in other countries, also a significant part of this money went back to the same americans, the special services and so on, who were behind it all, and now in general there is such an incredible war, and the most important thing is that american
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politicians should ask themselves about their own, why, for example, are bills drawn up for new tanks, but old ones are delivered, which in general are subject to disposal, for their disposal you would still have to pay, in theory, but here, uh, it’s paid for, as if a new tank from the plant had left, and so on, crazy, crazy abuse, i think that naturally, not only zelsky and his entourage, although this is understandable, this is also absolutely that’s right, mr. gaidukevich remembered minister reznikov, who was simply dismissed, but was not held accountable for embezzlement of money, and he is now smiling happily at everyone there on the southern coast of france and waving, laughing at fools who, as my belarusian colleague correctly said, are dying there at this time , but even more money remains, in fact, in the west, this is the biggest tragedy that ukrainians are dying not only for their own thieving elite, but also for the thieving elite of the entire west . zelsky
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wants to get an additional 24 billion from the american budget by any means in order to continue destroying the ukrainian people and the country as a whole, so an intrigue arises, it is obvious that neither money nor long-range missiles will change the outcome of the conflict, because all summer we watched the vaunted counter-offensive, which did not... happen, and i remember, during communication with western journalists, alexander lukashenko said that yes, watch this very moment, if nothing happens counter-offensives, the west, europe, in general, they will naturally begin to change their tactics, but still, what is the goal of today’s representatives, yes, the elite in ukraine, if you can call it that, the goal is to drag... the whole world into blood, destruction and chaos, if not, taking into account the fact that quite a lot of ukrainian assets have already been sold to the west. the west is not interested
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in seeing ukraine. absolutely completely destroyed, well, firstly, the goal is very simple, they have been following this since the moment of election, back in the nineteenth year, zelsky’s team had the same principle, like in the balchisha boys, we should stand the night until the day, so they are convinced that - something will happen later that they are fortress boys, jokes aside, they really are, this is an integral part of the mentality of those people who govern ukraine today, so they are deeply convinced that they the fort boys, they are already there from comedians and people who led corporate parties for the oligarchs suddenly turned into those to whom the oligarchs bow, they are convinced that something else will happen that will help them, so the main thing is to stall for time, what a game it is in general, if the americans were confident that in the event of a big war, their continents would not suffer, poland would have already fought, and even a small nuclear bomb, if it fell in europe, no one there in america would be upset, only good, and so it is now
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european production is transported... to america, it’s all great for them, the second point is that ukraine is the worst problem of ukraine, so i agree with my colleagues, who know this country, love it, because they generally fight for the dollar, for the green piece of paper remained afloat, that’s when we see these numbers and crazy help , it’s all being printed on a machine, while there are wars going on not only in ukraine, while there is a war going on in the middle east, in africa, something else will break out, so we can safely . print these dollars, keep it on afloat, it remains a currency, which means earning billions, millions, putting it in your pockets and supporting the american economy, this is the tragedy of the ukrainian people, that they are dying for the currency that someone puts in their pocket, this is the horror of the situation, and the americans now will do everything to make this conflict last, but there is a fear that if they cross some line,
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they may suffer, that’s why belarus is not attacked, that’s why belarus is not attacked, because after the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons, the strengthening defense capabilities, they know very well, they give the command to poland, attack belarus, the poles will execute, but the blow will be on them , the president has said how many times, we will strike at the decision-making center, putin said, an attack on belarus is a declaration of war on russia , this is not a special military operation, but... only this is holding us back, if it weren’t for our power, all of europe would have been on fire a long time ago. vladim alexander, but you must agree, initially, the united states of america, when pushing ukraine towards this collision, was convinced of that russia is weak and will not be able to cope with this challenge, as a result, in a year and a half it has become so strong and has reformatted its work, again improving it militarily.
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industrial complex and today it is a full-fledged player, one of the key ones, which will clearly indicate to the united states of america that today it is time to say goodbye to its hegemony and the world has truly become multipolar, and thus the americans unwittingly pushed russia towards friendly, mutually beneficial relations with the same the people's republic of china, as do you think at what point will the parties come to the understanding... that it is time to end this conflict? i believe that they have already come to an understanding, i remind you that america is only money, unlike england, england has a strategy, america is only money, and an understanding of the process, in fact, when it made the golden fleece out of ukraine, what happened today led to the fact that this golden fleece crossed the line and today he became
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a black sheep, roughly speaking. today the same money that is invested in ukraine, we see that today they are toxic, toxic and in general do not bring the income they expected , the one they have already received, what they have received, and the competitor, the eu, today has undermined its roots, seriously, as olgeevich said that ’s right, production has already been transferred to the usa, as it were, and there banks and so on, so on, so on, the roots of production are quite significant, quite serious, as it were. the competitor is undermined, they are still destroyed, it will not end, it will continue, there will still be a lot of interesting things, and then - russia, which is developing dynamically, and for some reason we are not talking about the same cia reports , is a fairly successful, stable , promising world-class economy, in general, it is also mired in war and so on, as they believe, it is diverting its forces,
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resources, etc., etc., etc., although we see that no, in fact, we have even more to do with development, this is our historical truth, as if yes, further, in ukraine, now it is as if the americans need to invest money, where it is already working out, in the restoration of the economy, which is... destroyed according to their instincts, there is a huge, huge hole there, just a weedless crater, in principle, america, based on its understanding, already understands that zelensky needs to be changed, as was said before, and the issue of ukraine needs to be changed, everything, today it is toxic for them, in this we can actually find something in common with them, as it were, yes, but this is not the end, because their goals have not been fully resolved, but you know, we are used to perceiving europe as a wounded and weak-willed participant current fight, but at the same time we are glad that politicians appear completely opposed to the current rhetoric, but with thoughts, statements, arguments,
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i propose to listen with you to the thoughts of philippe de winter, a belgian politician, right now and analyze it. we started with humanitarian aid, of course , with the reception of ukrainian refugees, then we delivered ammunition, then guns and weapons, then armored cars and tanks, now political leaders are talking about the supply of aircraft, fighters, what next? i ask my colleagues in parliament what's next and what purpose does it serve to win the war, i don't have the impression is that someone will emerge victorious, that someone will win this war, so what is the goal, to continue the war for another year, two more? 3 years this goal, this is the goal that we are pursuing, how much life will it cost , another 400,000, will we fight until the last ukrainian soldier dies, what is the agenda, is this our agenda or the american agenda,
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which we europeans serve, then i think that we europeans have a different agenda than the americans, are the americans interested in victory in this war, i have no such impression, what is their real goal? to divide europe, to become more powerful, to try to find a way to strengthen nato, is this the agenda of the american administration and the biden administration, and what do we want as europeans? yes , kiril, i think you communicate with many european politicians and observe that this turning point has occurred, because before that, mainstream support for ukraine did not allow people with a different opinion to express their... point of view, today we see from sociological polls, which parties in different countries of the european union receive more support, which politicians are popular today, that is, europe can still wake up from this
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terrifying dream, well, theoretically, europe can wake up, as they say, the bifurcation point has not yet been passed, yes, that is, we see , that in many countries opposition parties are gaining popularity, which are based on the national interests of their countries, and it is obvious that being drawn, increasingly drawn into a military conflict, for them is disastrous, wrong, in principle this does not give any advantages, except for sheer expenses, so they see that, well , as it seems to me, in general, the whole essence of the interests of the united states is not so much to defeat russia, it may be for some purpose, some, main the goal is simply to ruin and rob their younger partners, the europeans, so many of them are starting to guess about this, the tragedy of the europeans is that they soon realize one thing, any war still ends in negotiations, the question is when how many people will die, so here
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russia and the united states will sit at this negotiating table, there will be no europe there, no one needs it, and ukraine itself, unfortunately, will not have europe either, that is, russia and america. they say, i’m not saying now, i’m not saying tomorrow, but they will negotiate, even if we take the economy , let them analyze how the united states of america behaves now in africa, when the french are thrown out of various african countries, the americans come there, not the french defend, not europe, they are wondering how now we can buy uranium cheaper, the french don’t care, it’s the same with ukraine , the same with any other issues , no one... will bring russia to its knees , the americans know this, america will still be a strong state, yes, it doesn’t have there will be such influence as before, no one will bring china to its knees, so the three of them will talk, who will talk to germany today, what and what they are deciding about,
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nothing, but you see, olekgeevich, not so long ago from the lips of a european politician i heard the thesis that if today everything absolutely adequate people understand that there is not a war between russia and ukraine, but between russia. with nato and the west, then the final decision on ending hostilities will be made not in kiev, and not with the participation of ukraine, that’s coming soon, 150, how many billions, today the americans are not giving a single dollar, what’s next? that's it, death of course, europe has no money, that's it, there will be nothing, nothing, or the poles will help, the poles themselves have nothing, they are begging for money from america, i remind you that on the air of the sas program we are speaking with full authority about ukraine, about difficult relations with the west, what is worth noting, the united states sent ukraine a list that is necessary?
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reforms to continue military assistance, white house deputy national security adviser mike pyle sent the interagency “donor” coordination platform, which brings together the eu, g7 countries and partners from financial institutions, a letter with a list of reforms necessary for ukraine to provide military assistance to it, reforms, naturally relate to the work of supervisory boards, state enterprises of ukraine, anti-corruption bodies, including... nabu, the high council of justice, the judicial organization as a whole. the letter also talks about the need for reforms in the ministry of defense and other law enforcement agencies, including the sbu. and the changes in the document are listed according to the priority of their implementation. depending on this, a time period of up to 3 months, from 3 months to 6, up to one year and 18 months is offered. in general, oleg. i'll remind you, that's enough. a disappointing episode in your career, when from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada you
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they said that ukraine does not have sovereignty, or at least that it has already lost this sovereignty, and this was long before the start of hostilities on the territory of ukraine, and apparently, looking at this particular donor coordination platform, at this action plan, we can say that ukraine, if it ever existed, has completely lost its sovereignty, and today we nominally see that certain positions of the president of ukraine, the prime minister, people’s deputies continue to sit in the verkhovna rada, but the decision any, none of them makes, today the key decisions are actually governed by ukraine, the united states of america and a number of transnational corporations, can we wait, well, of course, because in fact, what
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sovereignty is, it is a management system in which the key decisions are made by the national elite, everything is natural, that uh, there the national elite can, should, must take into account the interests of allies, neighbors, and so on, but uh, the decision is never made for it, these decisions are never made from above, in this sense, an excellent example is indeed belarus, which openly has allied relations with russia, but no one questions that all decisions concerning the territory of belarus itself, the lives of belarusian citizens there, and so on, are made by the leadership of belarus directly, yes, somewhere there the opinion of the partners’ allies is taken into account, for some reason it is not taken into account, but no one questions that today the republic of belarus is a sovereign state, of course, today, zelsky very clearly after his visit to new york, is trying to say: dear , you are so dependent on us that forget
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that you can make any decisions on your own, the results of this conflict in the most ideal version for you, i hear there will be no way that ukraine will be formed there with you in the role of dictator , where are you, where you and i will agree on something else, the result of this conflict, ideally for us, will be a ukraine for which, in which all decisions will be made by those who is he calling? not even the president of the united states or the secretary of state, whose ambassador posted in kiev calls and talks about what needs to be done, this seems to be the key huge difference between states such as russia and belarus, which, by the way, i absolutely wanted support the very correct thesis of mr. goydukevich that in the end a multipolar world will be formed, where it will be necessary to deal with the same west, and i want to remind you, well , that is, the question is different, on what conditions, to deal as a subordinate or to have business as a partner. partner or let there be a relatively equal dialogue.
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belarus is now trying to build, position itself in such a way that it will be dealt with as a dialogue partner. and ukraine, unfortunately , has positioned itself in such a way that it is subordinate. but sooner or later this dialogue will take place, i wanted to remember president lukashenko’s message to the national assembly, when one liberation journalist there suggested to him that lessons should be introduced in schools that the anglo-saxons are enemies. and then president lukashenko smiled and said that the anglo-saxons different,. and he personally knows those who are far from enemies, quite adequate people , so there is no need to invent eternal enemies for yourself, sooner or later both minsk and moscow will be quite normal in dialogue with the west, just not on... the west’s terms, about reforms, two words, which means that’s why i’ll hold my colleague, i remember our president, the all-belarusian meeting immediately after the elections of the twentieth year, and he then said a phrase that confirms what we are now discussing, if the west does something to some country suggests, do the opposite, you won’t be mistaken, but if the west sent reforms to ukraine or
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to any other country, they sent us so many times, the goal is not reform, the goal is not some kind of reform, the goal, i agree with my colleague, the goal is so that the country was completely controlled from start to finish, so the rules in the post-soviet space in europe, if the west advises you of anything , do the opposite and you won’t be mistaken, then the country will develop correctly, so they told us, hold elections, we will never hold them, carry out reforms, never we’ll carry it out, change it, we won’t change it, remove it, we won’t remove it, then the country is moving in the right direction, as soon as in the west the post-soviet leader is the most... the worst thing i see is if putin or lukashenko will ever be applauded in the us congress. it’s the end of the country, that’s it, the end, so we should always be scolded there, which means we are moving in the right direction. it’s also worth noting that europe is batting its eyes while support for ukraine is fading away. vladimir putin’s plan seems to have worked, writes
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the publication, a politician who once seemed europe's unwavering support for kiev is beginning to shrink. more striking is the change in poland, which has refused to supply zelski with new arms supplies, but the problem for kiev is that support is drying up not only in poland. the same can be said about estonia, slovakia, hungary, of course, in kiev they pretend that everything is in order, and the ranks of his patrons do not stand tall, but somewhere there putin is looking and rubbing his hands, the authors of the material assure, here we actually see excerpts . on the screen, vadim aleksandrovich, well, i immediately remember, but here’s wisdom, if it takes a long time sitting on the bank of the river, you can see how the corpse of your enemy floats past, but in reality russia is not sitting waiting, but is fighting for its sovereignty, for its interests, and that it is watching how
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it turned out to be right once again again, the same allies of the vaunted ukraine, just like any first of all from... a sovereign state thinks about its interests, even about the interests of its farmers, but as it refers in its election campaign, the same party is right and fair in poland, there is time to throw stones, there is time to collect stones, now is not the time to sit on the shore, but behind all this, again, there is a big, prolonged strategy, moreover , voiced by them more than once, i will remind you that we can only assume that inadequate people are coming to poland, one is replacing the other , as it were, and one is more inadequate than the other, but their whole program, it is carried out like clockwork year after year, and what a program, the program in general is the polish-lithuanian commonwealth, from one day to the next, we know, as if yes, like clockwork, i let me remind you that, in general, those countries you
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listed, they, in general, were also included in the middle level of this program, that is, they , too, should, in general, be included in a large association, the very train that will keep... and russia, in fact, from mozh to mozh, and the program is not american, the program is english, by the way, yes, but this is the difference, which i say again, the important thing is that america does not want toxic assets in ukraine, but it wants europe, the eu, the eu had toxic assets in ukraine, so that it would burn its potential, which it still has it threatens, yes, and what you are talking about is irrelevant, some countries understand, but they are manageable. now, if we are talking about the countries you listed, it’s like the same train, this is a different fairy tale , this is a different strategy, this is an english strategy, it’s very difficult, i’ll tell you, it and the main thing is that it works, let’s remember not at the level of the declaration, at the level of the signed agreement, by the twenty-fifth year
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poland will have 800 tanks, a korean black panther, and this is a serious weapon and besides..." there is a lot of other things, that is, we can smile, sit on the shore, wait for the crocodiles to dig through, or something else, but there the clock works, and everything works out there, this cannot be excluded from the calculations, but by the way, we talked about that , certain ambitions of poland to restore those territories that were once lost, and appetites regarding the territory of western ukraine, today these conversations have moved a little to the side, what is the reason, in your opinion, well, after all , poland, at least the polish elite, 2-3% of it, they are from their own imperial ambitions are not going to give up yet, it’s hard for me to say, take history, as if yes, how long did poland control these territories, as if yes, we remember that vilna was a russian city, as if yes, and gidemminos, which is on
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today it is depicted on banknotes of lithuania, but he was orthodox, spoke russian by and large, it’s quite debatable where is ours and where is not ours, yes, so restoration, reconstruction, is a separate issue, but the important thing is that we have there is no revenge, yes, we have a plan, at least voiced by the president, denazification, demilitarization, we will not repeat what this means, it is important, and they have a plan to seize land, this is big, very significant and should be offensive to the ukrainian people, here is the last week, two weeks, what kind of rhetoric was from the lips of polish officials , as they responded to the ukrainian elite, the answer could be translated as follows: listen, close your mouth, you are completely dependent on us, and the conversation is like this: this is our western ukraine, that you are showing off grain there, that you are some kind of replacement for us
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you do, who you are, that is, this is neglect, this is disrespect, i , for example, am a belarusian, i’m offended, so i look at who you are to treat the ukrainian people this way, not the top, but you treat this way, and this is very significant, poland has its own interest in ukraine, it will fight for it, nothing is easy... no one gives anyone, there is never free help, there are never free weapons, you have to pay for everything, now, by the way , look, poland sells a lot of weapons to ukraine, sells, you have to pay for everything, which they will then take, but there is really nothing to take, the trouble is that they took everything, all that remains is to annex the territory, but no one in the modern world will annex territories to poland, today we will take colonies in africa, not officially an independent state, but completely... from start to finish, what is independence , here, remain independent, just what you have, in words there will be a flag, there will be a coat of arms,
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which means you can even speak in parliament, it will be in the verkhovna rada, in kiev, just now you really will have nothing, that’s the problem, let’s hear the opinion of alexander lukashenko, the president of the republic of belarus about the completely unpredictable actions of poland, what is the reason in relation to ukraine, finally tolensky. that hurray, hurray, like gorby, gorby gorbachev, now no one needs him, and you think that poland is just crushing this poor ukraine today, but no, they already gave the go-ahead because of the ocean, we need to dump this zelensky, i’m tired, he’s holding elections in america tomorrow, no one will even look at it, yes, kiril, that’s the opinion he expressed belarusian leader, do you agree, and indeed, on the eve of the elections it is difficult to remain alone with problems, both domestic and international, do you think how
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stable is his candidacy in the upcoming elections from the democrats, or will the democrats really be able to find a worthy candidate, i think here the situation is a little more complicated in that biden, simply through his connections with his son, got into his time very strongly and deeply in ukraine, now he really has to spin around there, get out, yes, answer all sorts of different complex questions, but what is zelsky’s team doing, as i see it, they are trying to play out, in fact , this is the question of ukraine, yes, directly, to make the factor of ukraine a factor in the domestic american election campaign, that is, let’s say, to sell themselves, i apologize for the expression, to sell... here are military actions as a way of influencing, i think, not only probably on the democratic team
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, maybe on the republicans, and try for the whole next year, in this way, to force mr. trump’s support, it is increasing, and indeed, trump would clearly ensure the end of the conflict as soon as possible, i will say, i will say only one phrase, this whole strategy seems to me to be zelsky’s, but it falls under one well-known title of the film, when, to paraphrase it, the ukrainian tail will try to wag this american like a dog, i think, to be honest, how in kiev they will try to get out until november next year, when there will be elections in the states, i think, and almost in the end they will go to , let’s say, to the same trump, if he will to win and offer him dirt on biden, well, i don’t agree with you , well, clearly the tail tells the dog, to compare ukraine and the united states of america, it seems to me that this is still in vain, because there is
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nothing left of this tail , indeed, there are no decisions... or unfortunately there is no opportunity to influence anyone or certain processes in today’s ukraine. at the end of our program, let us hear the opinion of the former prime minister of slovakia, jan chernogursky, and sum up our discussions. please. from the very beginning of the war in ukraine, it was clear that the war would not end in victory for ukraine, but in its defeat and significant losses for ukraine. and i think that the west actually provoked this war for its own interests. this is evident because when ukraine and russia agreed in istanbul last march and april 2022 to end the war and reach a compromise, boris johnson suddenly arrived from london and convinced zelsky that the agreement with russia was invalid. this is good, ukraine must continue to fight against
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since then, 100,000 ukrainians have died. americans or british, but 100,000 ukrainians, which is why i believe that all the steps of the west in the ukrainian war, especially in support of ukraine, actually harm ukraine, and i do not support them. the main thing is that sooner or later the remaining ukrainian population understands who really was an enemy in this situation and who was a friend. olekgeevich, the final word of today’s program, provide such an opportunity, as unfortunately, what is happening in ukraine is a tragedy, we have talked about this more than once, the war will end, i want it to end faster, because every day of the war is the death of people, while someone is collecting money, while conferences dedicated to ukraine are being held, while politicians are telling fairy tales, let's fight to the end, fight, we will support you,
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at this time, people are dying every day, so i would really like... the leaders, and many of them have already begun to listen to our president, and belarus today is an outpost of the struggle for peace, today we are saving europe from war with our competent policies, not getting involved in nowhere we do not give in to provocations, they heard us , they finally understood that the only way is to sit down at the negotiating table to stop the massacre that is now going on, when an entire people and an entire country are being destroyed by their own politicians. thank you, vadim aleksandrovich, very good words, i fully join them, support them, and i will try to sum up our conversation so rationally, not so emotionally, rationally. so, according to zelensky, according to zelensky, the most effective, brightest, most convenient way to change policy, which ukraine now needs an upgrade, this is the destruction of zelsky, allegedly by russian missiles, further, what
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we talked about means that in the introduction of an anti-corruption system into ukrainian politics, this is not the first year that these graters have been happening, that’s why they took place with such a big, with such a big problem, this is a completely controlled policy of ukraine on the part of the united states, no more no less, then the resolution of the conflict in ukraine, between america, as you hopefully said, and russia, in terms of win-win is one thing: this - america is letting go of the destroyed ukraine as a lousy opus, which is no longer worth taking, in fact, only toxic assets were left on the hump of russia, which there counted hundreds of billions, is needed for restoration, that is , large resources, large funds for restoration, for cleanup and so on, but
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america is good, it has released a toxic asset, russia is good, we are returning it. their people, their lands, their blood, their history, their culture into our mainstream. thank you, 30 seconds, kiril, please, yes, i'll tell you literally one phrase, the fact is that, as grushevsky said, the trouble with ukraine is that all the time it was ruled by people who do not need it, now there is a huge part of ukraine, and there is another part of ukraine that has always been consumed by this war , but i would also like to stop it probably on any terms, but unfortunately, her point of view at the moment... is completely ignored by the ukrainian political leadership. oleg, please, the final word, it’s close, what do you think? i think the end is not yet a breeze, especially taking into account the fact that every day is really paid for in blood, but it is definitely clear that there will be no eternal dictatorship of zelsky, most likely, the conditions of any compromise on ukraine will be
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a change of power, carried out by the west itself, another... which i don’t think that they will give up ukraine there, let’s say, under any conditions, even if through the need to spend billions on its restoration to russia, i think most of it is not for that, a regime is actually being established there now, and when this is all over, they will then they will continue to fight russia and belarus using the usual methods for the soras foundation, after all, i think these are difficult times, in this sense, in minsk, it seems to me, they adequately understand this, they are waiting for belarus in this sense in 24 or 25, the war will end, but the struggle to change the vector of development of belarus and russia will not end further, thank you, we put an end to this , we end our discussion, unfortunately, only a discussion, not a war, which... there is no end in sight and as i wrote in the same white bulgakov guard, the year was great and the year was terrible on the nativity of christ 1918, but 1919 was even
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worse and i really want to hope that from 2024 it will be different, thank you, this was the program sas is authorized to declare. the west has become disillusioned with zelensky, but is not yet ready to lead the way towards peace.
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after the initiation of the case, we decided that it was necessary not only to cover the progress of the investigation in terms of information, with the help of the media, but also to present those facts and archival documents, plus witness testimony, in some publication, so this is how it is how the idea arose, this idea was implemented, in 2021 we of the general prosecutor's office... produced the first edition, in the twenty-first year it was published , the publication was very popular, several editions were published, all the books were sold out, so we are already seeing
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great popularity among our population, we have already started preparing the second edition, in which we placed emphasis on death camps, on the extermination of our population in camps... death camps, these are consul camps, these are prisons, places of forced detention of the population, ghettos and etc. in these editions, both the first and the second, they publish exactly.

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