[000:00:00;00] and when this is all over, they will then begin to continue to fight russia and belarus using the usual methods for the sorys foundation, after all, i think, difficult times in this sense, in minsk, it seems to me, they adequately understand this, they are waiting for belarus in this sense in twenty fourth in twenty-fifth, the war will end, but the struggle for change will not end - the vector of development of belarus and russia further. thank you, we put an end to this, we end our discussion, unfortunately, only a discussion, and not a war, which has no end in sight and as bulgakov wrote in the same white guard: the year after the birth of christ 1918 was a great and terrible year, but 1919 was even more terrible and i really want to hope that from 2024 it will be different. thank you, this was the program sas is authorized to declare. the west has become disillusioned with

zelensky, but is not yet ready to lead the way towards peace. my history, nature, culture, faith, people, wickedness, you will never forget once and

never forget, everything here is right for us. remove the hell of the garadian metusna here. and your strength, go ahead, so that you can do it yourself, volunteer and stop the hell of the moment, and as a result of the situation, skin damage due to

nature. dzikaya, old-timer, svyaya yelnya, belarus nathnyaya. hello, you are watching the program say don’t be silent, in the studio of victoria popova and tatyana sherbina. and our guest today is political expert, candidate of economic sciences, dmitry shvaiba. good afternoon. hello. hello, dmitry nikolaevich, let’s introduce you to our viewers even more fully. you are also the chairman of the minsk regional organization, the belarusian trade union of workers in the chemical, mining and

oil industries. well that's why let's announce the following news: the polish chemical plant for the production of nitrogen fertilizers is incurring huge losses, and yet no sanctions were introduced against poland. from belarusian enterprises, the chemical profile, in fact , which is quite close to you, how do we cope with this sanction pressure, with these challenges and how does the team feel in these conditions? in fact, nitrogen production is very indicative in this matter, since up to 90% of the cost in nitrogen production is the cost of gas, and not only in poland such problems, before we have heard that there are similar... problems at the enterprises of the republic of lithuania, the chemical industry in germany is facing a similar problem today, it has already lost 20% last year, but it is expected that they will lose 16% this year, this is

the question that you asked whether sanctions were introduced against them, in fact they imposed sanctions against themselves, cutting themselves off from cheap hydrocarbons from the east, then due to what they earned these surpluses, then due to... what they demonstrated their peculiar, so-called economic miracle, today this is the moment of truth, in fact, when you can see what they are worth, but they themselves did not actually abandon russian resources, they blew up, they blew up the northern streams and have nowhere else to go, by the way, what about this is what greta tumberg thinks, i wanted to know, since it happened not far from her home country, but here there is silence. and this is such a rhetorical question, but you know, here it is necessary to separate two aspects: germany, in my opinion, of course, was forced into such a confrontational

economic rivalry with the russian federation, poland was quite willing to do this, as was the lithuanian republic , this is not the position of the population, this is the position of the political elites, the position of the population, fortunately we will find out in mid-october, there at the next elections in poland. well, the population will speak out about what is happening regarding their future jobs, but in general this is a problem for europe as a whole, this is the real sector of the economy, these are wages, if you want guarantees, then collective agreements, tariff agreements, whatever they call it you want to call them, but this is the formation of income, the middle class, which forms the political position of its political need, thus, if we say that these systems are democratic. then it forms a certain management system for the next electoral period, so i get the impression that by their actions , whether unilateral or multilateral, they are destroying their economic component,

actually eating it up, and are implementing it indirectly or directly, realizing, for sure, this is the plan of the united states by increase dependence of the countries of the european union on the united states, that is, it is already beneficial for the united states that these countries move in the direction of its interests, and the current situation, new opportunities present to the current situation, here is the replacement of russian cheap gas with american liquefied, but more expensive, of course, this well, such a serious success for the united states, for qatar, which did not have any strategic plans, but nevertheless, today has fabulous profits from this situation, of course, for norway, which has this serious carbohydrate resource, well, actually did not join the european union, because it is self-sufficient from a financial point of view, and today it has a fabulous rent in the current situation, those

very specific enterprises are facing problems, polish, not lithuanian, german, or some other ones, they certainly lived off of cheap hydrocarbons from the east, but it is no secret that , for example, germany purchased belarusian oil with great pleasure, it was beneficial for germany, it was also beneficial for belarus, due to the structure of the belarusian oil, they not only provided themselves with light petroleum products, they provided themselves with products for the petrochemical complex, today they are deprived of this on their own initiative, well, you said that you forced them, well, they present themselves as very important, self-sufficient people and continue insist on the rhetoric that this is their independent decision, while the explosion of the gas pipeline itself is unprecedented, that is , this is the international infrastructure of the energy system that has been destroyed, and

imagine today, it is unclear by whom, it is unclear with what technological resources, at what point germany fell into such dependence, if you mean dependence on the united states, in my opinion, this happened literally on may 9, 1945, when, in fact , under the pretext of allied relations, this is the american occupation zone. began to significantly shape the economic standards of the united states, here the marshall plan, technical re-equipment of a huge number of specialists who worked in the real sector of the economy, who worked, but if you want, in the special services they carried out the ideas of such americanism in that part of germany, which actually turned out to be in their sovereign use, and here , of course, are american bases, you need to remember that until now... the largest american

base in europe is located in germany, well, as i say, there are even nuclear weapons there, this is a question of discussion, recently, when belarus, well, thought about it and implemented a plan to move tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of the republic of belarus, then there it has been happening for the last 80 years, well, the most important and invisible thing, virtually all the information... resources of the federal republic of germany, which represent at least some interest and power, today they either indirectly or directly belong to capital the united states of america, that is, the entire information agenda that is set in the usa, in germany , accordingly, it is united, it is carried out by such a united front, in this sense, in western germany, for example, those who have doubts

about it. uh current actions regarding there is virtually no russia in relation to belarus, the position of eastern germany is much more interesting, where these people for a long time, well , built some kind of unified coordinate system with us, even if it was such a socialist-communist system, but the most important thing is that we were in a certain mental information space, that’s where the most interesting processes take place, there are very specific reactions from voters, there are such, well, maybe in the form of such good german festivals in small towns that show interest to russian culture, an interest in not severing relations between modern russia and modern germany, that is, in that part of germany that was not subject to this unprecedented information impact, for which i was actually at the festival and saw it. from eastern germany a performance on a modern theme and there they broadcast

nostalgia for the soviet union , they are no longer ashamed of this, and fortunately we still have many sober-minded friends in this region who speak out in support for many processes that are taking place in belarus, in russia, but the problem is different, these people do not have influence on the political leadership, on political decisions, they are pushed aside today. this is not the establishment and never will be. in the twentieth year in belarus it was possible to stop, yes, the shutdown of enterprises that our opponents insisted on; in fact , the example of eastern germany is the most striking here, when with their departure from part of the socialist bloc, yes, they lost a huge part of their plants and factories and work, respectively, but the same thing awaited us, do you think, that

’s when we survived, the outflow still happened , you know, the shortage of labor resources in an economy that is developing, surplus, it is always present, it must be said that for an entire segment of the belarusian industry today there is a serious demand for goods, and accordingly, a serious demand for labor resources, this is due primarily to the new niches that have opened up in the russian federation, the increased demand for industrial goods that has arisen, well, for example, in the mechanical engineering and military-industrial complex, it must be said that the chemical , petrochemical, and economic segments are very actively looking for themselves in the newly formed russian market, because it is changing very well, it is clear that there is a serious demand for labor resources, in this..

in the sense that a deficit is just an indicator of some kind of economic growth, i sincerely want to believe that all those who were in demand were in their jobs, all those who received decent wages, all those who felt worthy in terms of status citizens of the republic of belarus, but they actually didn’t have time to participate in any street demonstrations, for example, at 12:00 in the afternoon, so i also observed all these then... so strange, like a person who spent his working life i started at a factory, i think, well, that’s how lucky people are, how is it even possible at 12 o’clock, but if you worked well there, part one. somewhere in the factory canteen, but nevertheless some other processes were taking place, that is , the question is who these people were when they started there to dig into some of these epicentries that arise, who these people are, it turns out that they are often simply unrelated or conducting such

conscious provocative activities, but this is a question beyond what is said to be my competence, but i... like this i perceive to myself that if a person is in demand, then if he has the resource for complete physical and moral restoration to work, moreover, he has some kind of rent in order to have quality rest, in order to participate in some kind of even more life, besides the fact that this is work, he’s not even really interested in the political process , at that time the trade union, how it acted, did people turn to you, or did you go out to people yourself, you know, for me personally in 1920.. .more than once i had to go out to people in a variety of situations , i even remember this time - with such a certain , you know, inner trembling, because it suddenly seemed to me, due to those modern information technologies that were

used against us, but i same private citizen of society, this internet puts pressure on me with the same pressure as on others, suddenly. it seemed that some part of the people could exchange the prospect of a successfully operating enterprise, as a point of growth for their prospects, their family, their children, for some illusory slogans and some illusory quasi-leaders, who in fact it is not clear whether they exist, not exist, what is their political platform, what is their idea, and i personally threw all my... opportunities, resources, competencies to ensure that such a phenomenon does not happen in belarus was, people heard us and supported us in our action, supported us in ensuring that our country develops stably, develops sustainably, through a pragmatic perception of the activities

of economic entities, their own enterprises, this cell of society, as a labor collective, unique, specific, but in that , including the cells, that is, you, when you spoke to groups, you felt unanimity, and with people who wanted to retain jobs and development, evolution, i built, in that difficult period, like me my work seemed different, i only met with those who did not show unanimity, talked calmly with them , presented my arguments, explained my position, and what they said, i’m interested in what they guide through information resources, through some kind of propaganda, maybe through leaflets such as this, gave them the illusion of a strike at an enterprise not due to economic demands, well, nothing

like that exists either in civilized europe, much less in the united states of america, that is, this message is... by social requirements, it is deeply embedded, in such a small part of our labor collectives, these people suddenly felt that they had the right to this, we began to explain to them the basic legal guarantees, why this is impossible, the national aspect, the international aspect, in ultimately, we were heard, this can be stated today, the lion's share of those people who had such... they have changed it today, well, i sincerely hope that they did not hide, did not keep silent, by the way speaking, i remember once my internship, well, in fact, at the beginning of 2000, the federal republic of germany through the trade unions, when they were just showing how

strikes are carried out, germany, well, germany, i must say that it is famous for these things, the legislation there is very well developed, in the conditions when the tariff ends. agreements, trade unions have a real opportunity to go on strike, to defend their rights, so they show that we would like to increase wages there by 5%, the employer says that maybe by three, that’s when we went to the period of a real strike in the industrial trade union, the largest industrial trade union, the federal republic of germany, in my opinion, even the largest industrial trade union in the world, they showed us these diagrams, and when i saw this, excuse me, shalman, which... uh, was proposed here is some small group of people who imagine themselves to be leaders, under some complacent slogans that this is world experience and almost a practice that is flourishing... in europe, but it was clearly not easy for them to discuss with me, that's why that i didn’t tell at all how this was happening, but

i really understood what i was talking about, having seen it with my own eyes, these people probably had some disappointment at the stage of our discussions, because well, you can tell some ideologies only to those who may not understand or know anything, it’s like something new , know-how, but when you went through it all, worked it out, knew it from start to finish, but it was difficult to discuss, and we even went along the good old path poster art, on such large, very beautiful posters, they printed out all the legislation of the republic of belarus on strike activity, because this is, by and large, the constitutional right of a citizen, about how what is done, for what reasons, under what circumstances, what the mechanism is, and hung it up even at entrances and enterprises. you know, the effect was simply amazing, people came up, as

in the good old days, they read, a kind of educational program, and this , of course, cooled down the hottest heads, but we got through it all, after that we became, if you like, a little stronger, a little more experienced yet, but it's you spent either among the working population, and they taught you something, these hot days, the most important thing, the conclusion that i made for myself is that stability, sustainable development, the subjectivity of the country, in fact, can also be fragile, so challenges can turn out this way when, in a general state of, for example, some kind of theoretical chaos and misunderstanding , what has been created over generations can be destroyed , yes, we are tired of stability, and suddenly, and we don’t receive historical vaccinations... either, or we get, i heard often, i have already lost one country from representatives of the older generation, i don’t want a second one, that is, maybe

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dmitry nikolayevich, well, we’ve already touched on poland, the country’s economy as a whole is not doing well, so on sunday, literally, october 1 , the march of million hearts event took place in warsaw, which was organized by the leader of the largest opposition party, the civil platform, donald tusk, let’s see, well, that’s what i want call on you, poles, you are incredible, the ruling party has justice, in fact, an opponent of the civil platform, but they are constantly with each other... there is no economic program on how to make the lives of the poles better, so people actually take to the streets in order to defend their right to a decent life, but this party is right and fair military fears are being dispersed, so to speak, with all their might . do you think the rhetoric will change after the elections on october 15, or, on the contrary, they will begin to even more actively disperse this russo and

belarusophobia, the general strategy... of the united states on the territory of the european union. this most important ally. in this sense, the struggle is at a lower level. from actual national aspirations, which are actively fueled by the population of peace, to eurocentric mood. which develops tusk. and here there will be a vote between small towns and the rural population, in which peace traditionally enjoys support, there is catholicism, there is the national polish factor, historical polish, things that support the population, to city residents. this is what you showed, quite an impressive picture, this is precisely the population of large polish

cities that does not support nationalist approaches. parties, while we must objectively understand that this is just an election race, after october 15 , october, such tension will subside, although many are already sound forces in europe, but including, of course, we look with hope that some kind of nationalistic vector , which is indicated today by those holding power in poland, it will go away and poland will finally begin to deal with... but some of its own european issues that, well, poland, which we at least knew, that poland could somehow become an ally, or something, of the ongoing eastern processes , it should not be under any illusions in this regard, at least neutral, neutral, slightly tense about this question, perhaps they can be, in this

sense, indicative, of course, the elections in slovakia, which are very cool, i think they ruined the sleep of the current political leaders in poland, because well, the people are in favor of moving away from some such military rhetoric in in relation to russia, from military support for ukraine, while all sorts of incredible things are being circulated on the internet, that there is no need to help ukraine anymore, no at all, the winning party in the last elections in slovakia says that we are ready to help humanitarian ukraine, this is our neighbor, but to carry out some such actions, support there, but, but there is no need to get involved in a war even further, which does not bring any peace to europe and does not bring any stability, well, look, lately poland has already announced that that it’s like friendship with ukraine

is already ending, and they have already recognized the rocket as having arrived from ukraine on the territory of poland, which, in principle, seems to have already been forgotten, but still, this end of friendship, purely for the public in poland, is being done for... so that, again, to win over voters to please them, voters who are against warsaw supporting kiev, this is no longer in public, this is completely for real, i have said more than once, but in various information resources, that poland and ukraine are completely natural antagonists, there is no need to look for any additional contradictions, they exist, this is a complex historical factor, on those wounds that have not healed either in the polish or in the ukrainian people, these are two strategies when ukraine called itself super agrarian country and poland

, which traditionally considers itself a super-agrarian country, and this is a common market, after all, this is an opportunity to make money, and this is the elementary cost of ukrainian polish goods, this story with grain, it revealed this is an absolute situation where ukrainian grain is 30% cheaper there, well, since it is cheaper, it means we are closing the border with poland, with slovakia, and of course with hungary, and the corridor through which ukrainian grain was supplied was actually supported only by russia and in which it is in a state of a special military operation, in this sense there are no reasons for building more serious allied relations between poland and ukraine in my opinion. their look simply does not exist, this is the situation when they turned out to be fellow travelers when

they began to write out some kind of engagements towards each other and adopt some kind of legislation, by the way, very specific, which provided some additional rights to polish citizens on the territory of ukraine, but so far no one has i didn’t understand what it was all about and how it would be implemented in general, then it didn’t work, so to speak, while on pause, maybe it would shoot at a certain moment, well, ukraine began to snap back in this sense, because this the complaint to the world trade organization is very indicative of poland, by the way, poland didn’t give a damn about this complaint, no one will do anything, but another indicative case, they almost didn’t notice it, but nevertheless drew attention to it several times, a film that was released on the independence day of ukraine on august 24 of this year, dovbush, which specifically talks about the heroic struggle of the ukrainian people with the polish gentlemen here on the territory

of western ukraine, because this is also not just an act of some cultural origin, after all, this is a symbol, ukraine clearly enough makes it clear to poland that these antagonisms are very... very serious, but this also raises another question: how then did you plan to integrate into europe, if with elementary neighbors in the european space, you have such contradictions, that is, doesn’t the ordinary listener have a question that the issue of european integration of ukraine was initially a deception for society, and according to the same scheme as the baltic states, poland had already begun before this european integration. but the baltics at the same time, it ended up in the european union, but it was not so much the baltic states that were needed, but this infrastructure, which is conveniently

located there, again next to russia, to hurt russia first of all, to create some new contour, such tension along the border of belarus, this is in in principle, everything is clear here with this political geography, but for me... after all, all the maidans that took place in ukraine, all these upheavals that took place, they just took place under the slogan of european integration and promises to the population to live like in european countries, more besides, here in the best times we had were in ukraine, which we all love so much, which was not a foreign country for us, we went to ukrainian hypermarkets, but somehow at that time they were even brighter than our hypermarkets due to the scale of the country . and there in any bread department you could see a picture of the bread of the peoples of europe, that is, even when buying bread, they were convinced that this is our path to

european integration, but how they tried to implement it is still not entirely clear, because if ukraine really began the path to european integration, not what they are promised, now there are some half-measures, some strange membership in some committees, but more than that... it looks like just a mockery of this population, which actually had some vision of joining the european union and voted, perhaps not in those ukrainian elections. for this vector, but how they tried to integrate ukraine, after all, hungary, for example, which has serious issues of contradiction there, for example, slovakia, for example, would have expressed an opinion poland, not to mention distant countries that could speak out in the most unexpected way, remember only the position of holland and chicken producers in this country, and the corresponding contradictions and claims against similar producers in ukraine, that is... there are much

more contradictions in this in a sense, a situation arose when ukraine, signing these agreements on certain integration processes with the european union, signed them unconditionally, and without reading these documents, but in fact i don’t read, that’s all the european union he considered carefully, he was interested in labor resources, human capital, for which there is a struggle in everything, which is what i’m talking about, and when you went into these hypermarkets, then you were lace panties there? you know, i haven’t been seen in such departments in hypermarkets, well, in general, history tells us that everything was sold for them, well, i read a lot about this on the internet, but as a person who concentrated my attention on the bread department, i can still talk about these things, but at the same time there was propaganda from every iron that it was european.

choice, it is more harmonious for, uh, ukrainian ears, but now there is a feeling that this question will be finally answered, of course, by historians; in some near medium term , politicians will answer this, including that it was a big deception, which initially no one i didn’t even count on it, first of all, that is, you are saying that they were not going to take them, but in the european, well, you know how... in order for whether they were going to take them or not, some one can answer this specific official of the european union, the fact that the european union does not need large countries with large populations is obvious, because for them it is always a headache, you have to somehow negotiate with them all the time, make some concessions, and poland is just a striking example of such a country, the question arises that poland can leave the ranks, the built ranks of the european, well, this is a sovereign question for poland, and it is necessary... note that at the moment

when ukraine began this is a discussion in fact, the population of ukraine was even larger than the population of poland, and the territory, if you do not count russia, was the largest state in the european region, that is , it was definitely a problematic option for the european union. what is poland preparing for, why is it arming itself? well, probably, today it is invested in those horror stories that are accelerated through mass... information about the threat from the east, about the european rampart that they represent, about the besieged fortress, but i sincerely hope that sobriety of thought , if not the first persons in this state, but at least at the expert level, at the level of those who make real decisions, will triumph in the fact that it is impossible to ignite a more serious fire in the center of europe than that local conflict in... which has already happened, has already

there is no turning back, but the struggle has twisted in such a way that ukraine has been dragged into where it was dragged, and people, being under unprecedented information pressure inside this country, are actually disoriented today, because there may be theoretically, there is a feeling that some citizens in this country continue to believe that the european future is just around the corner. and already some radical forces, including in poland, said the following phrase: let us accept ukraine, of course, but in parts, yes, this, in my opinion, is the apotheosis of everything that is happening, here it is as a single organism, as a subjective formation, in fact , today no one needs it, well, in this context, let us remember how difficult it was for the budget for the near future to be adopted in the united states and ukraine,

many have noticed, the story with ukraine is not foreseen, in fact, this is another adventurous project of the global west, and the united states no longer even hides this fact, they say that well, let it smolder, yes, there will be no reconciliation, today in power there are those people who are ready to do this, because there could be other people in power who would say, well, it’s time to stop the madness, there is a feeling that ukraine is in the near future. period, but will face such serious challenges as a minimum of internal political discussion, in order to answer the question of what path she chooses next, what... program of action, program until victory, well, that means, if ukrainian society accepts this program, then, well, it is responsible for this program , if the program is to find ways out of this situation, then this is also a way, but most likely it will already take place without

zelensky at the head of this country, we need at least either a truce, or start negotiations without preconditions, but something is needed do, need to be saved territory, to save the economy, today, this story is unfolding before our eyes and represents such a very serious tragedy for the population, for the ukrainian ethnic group as such, because this is not only participation in a military campaign, it is actually the departure of the population by millions beyond the borders of this country, well, they are already saying that there are 23 million of them there, although it is impossible to understand what they mean, or is this the entire territory that they recognize, and if not the entire territory, then this is even more sad, we we understand that if you minus those areas, then there are even fewer people there, but i remember the data from the school curriculum, when, after all , the ukrainian soviet socialist republic amounted to 50 million 50, and this

yellow center and maps were impressive, and in ukraine there is always they proudly said that no, there are 55 million of us, and i also remember these conversations very well, in this sense, the numbers that sounded... in relation to the crimea, it seems to me that the chance was historic, how we took advantage of it, we also know how history unfolded , yes, with crimea it’s still more complicated, because crimea sincerely believed, well, in fact , until ’95, that it was part of the russian federation , for example, russian rubles circulated there, russian symbols were actively used there, well, there was a certain constitution of that republic of crimea, they claimed to the right to self-determination, and in fact, in 1995, ukraine, in those geopolitical conditions , managed to suppress all these issues and integrate this territory as much as possible,

well, into its own space, while, in my opinion, ukraine made the same mistakes that was carried out, for example, by the second polish-lithuanian commonwealth, when it claimed that no one existed and there lived some people, there were many millions of them, who went there in their villages, in their towns, to god, prayed, sowed, plowed and said, well, interesting , of course, belarusians don’t exist, so who are we then, well, the dumbest ones, yes, that’s how we lived in this space, the ukrainians there are not ukrainians, or they don’t have any rights, in this sense, this is a state after all, it ended its fate quite tragically, but when such a huge ukrainian state was formed, because it did not make any historical conclusions at all, it also started a discussion about some local peoples there, who, by the way, there were no russians among the local peoples, well, it’s amazing,

but they live people speak russian, but for centuries, but at the same time there are no russians, yes, but according to the documents, if we read, they are not there, not to mention the fact that these, for example. well , this is already a hackneyed example, but excuse me, i ’ll give it already, medicines are translated into ukrainian language, here is an annotation for them, but it needs to be deeply understood, the ukrainian language , in order to correctly understand the annotation, is distributed to people in the regions, but it’s not like someone taught them there to speak ukrainian, they they just never said, didn’t say, these things, in the conditions of a historical chance that was really given to ukraine, they, in my opinion, were not used, or were used irresponsibly, because well, is this a political story or was it really true, because kravchuk asked yeltsin a question in belovezhskaya pushcha, so what are we going to do with

crimea? yeltsin didn’t ask kravchuk a question, but kravchuk asked yeltsin and boris nikolayevich was not found, well, it seems, he continues the same story, but he said, like, take it , that means, well, don’t... take it, the state will not be poorer, which means that here too i remember, of course, the film ivan vasilyevich, he changes his profession, hemskast, well, from your speeches , i conclude that our opponents are stepping on the same rake again, when they pedal nationalist ideas and passports of individual and vishnoria, as soon as they did not name here, but they are still there, oh, well, these are all quasi processes, they are in no way connected with what is really happening, yeah. since access to the relevant state. authorities are probably closed to them, we are talking about those people who probably committed certain

offenses on the territory of belarus , who cannot return today to our sovereign territory, even with the help of the commission that was created, but yuri voskresksky is waiting for everyone since our studio invites people to come back, so it’s so pessimistic, but i would in general, i suggested, if you allow me, after... the passage of all the electoral campaigns of 24-25 years, to seriously return to this issue and perhaps even think about some kind of amnesty for these people, when the situation already arises that they will not be able to with their destructive positions to influence domestic politics, well then they will have the bitter, sad experience of staying abroad, where there are many freedoms, and now we will take a short break after a short break. let's return to this studio again, for now subscribe to our telegram channel, that's what it's called, tell me don’t be silent, look for all our releases on

the youtube channel belarus 1. do belarusian trade unions now have contacts with foreign colleagues? the main vector of development and integration of our workforce occurs through belarus and russia. the next level of interaction is the eurasian economic space, and wider, of course, and more complex at the same time, these are, of course, the sco organizations, in this sense, there is hope that there will be some kind of activation here, today with those countries that are for us , well, by virtue introduction of sanctions against our country by unfriendly people, well, these contacts are actually reduced to a minimum, possible only if any sanctions against our enterprises are lifted,

how can we interact with any country against the backdrop of its attempt to withdraw our enterprises, well, from some state of economic stability. on the air again, say don’t be silent , our guest is political expert dmitry shvaiba. i would really like to discuss more prices in our stores. dmitry nikolaevich is with you, since you are an associate professor and well-versed in economic sciences, the committee of state control and the trade union together with parliamentarians went shopping, and it turned out that prices were exceeded many times over, up to 3500%, is this kind of monitoring in your opinion an effective tool for maintaining prices? well, firstly, it wasn’t just like a one-time action, for example, the trade unions

took this as the basis of their work. buy essential goods at a fair price. in this sense , such monitoring affects the owners networks in terms of adequately building their pricing policy, because often during these monitors we are faced with elementary, well, if not fraud, then at least that especially in terms of very cheap goods, where you can increase, inflate the price during peak hours, during rush hours , which means selling at a higher price, of course , in conditions when the economy continues to be under certain sanctions, such behavior is unacceptable, and the situation is when an imported product

enters the market: with an adequate price, but is purchased some kind of inadequate markup within the country, this is, firstly, unacceptable, and secondly, such monitoring can resist this, in this sense, this area of ​​work, in my opinion, is effective, but here you need to understand that its scale, due to that the trade unions of belarus are quite well structured, represented in all towns and villages, and can simultaneously cover, well, enough. such a serious, serious audience, a serious network of trading enterprises, it has a serious effect, it allows, well, not that, to discuss, to indicate their position, in the ministry of antimonopoly it is regulated, a trade union member with a certain bandage, let them come to the store, call the director, how they can influence each other, i’m interested, just spheres of influence, i ’ll tell you right away that this is not an ordinary

trade union member from povyazkay. i haven’t heard a single case where the farm. refused the desire of trade unions to conduct this monitoring, moreover, you know that this issue was discussed at a meeting between the heads of the trade union and the president of the republic of belarus, this is the direction that has been chosen as a priority in our country in the activities of the trade union, in this sense there is a general understanding, but the main task, again , not even of the commodity manager who is in a specific store in some conventional belarusian region, the task is to give a signal to the owners of commodity distributors networks, here is an adequate formation of prices for belarusian workers, and the trade unions manage to give such a signal, in this sense, some kind of conditional member of the trade union who monitors

this situation at a particular moment, he is not so indicative, the whole system as a whole is indicative, in which... in my opinion , the trade unions have already become very skilled, well, as a trade union leader, what problems, what questions do people most often turn to you with? you know, for us such a serious issue is public control over working conditions, we are actively developing this institution, given to us by presidential decree, for the formation of public control structures, senior public inspectors, public inspectors at work, for in order for more experienced, more professional workers to take away the negative incident of their colleagues from his majesty and create conditions that would allow them to work without accidents, without serious and without fatal cases, of course, as a last resort, in this sense we

have to participate a lot in investigations of similar cases of incidents at work, these powers are formalized by the belarusian... field and this takes up a significant part of our work, but in our case it is primarily due to what we represent industrial enterprise, there is a certain specificity there, these are the issues that sincerely concern our trade union members, the citizens with whom we work, this is the formation of their future pension provision at the time of retirement, because we have a lot of people who... . in harmful hazardous working conditions, this is professional pension insurance, this is the accrual of the so-called general civil pension, these are now new forms of pension provision, the so-called corporate pension, which we are actively we promoted and are, by and large, supporters of the idea of ​​​​developing corporate pension insurance through a system of collective agreements, and people ask a lot

of questions about this, and a new form of pension, when a citizen can... participate in savings himself, contributing up to 10% of his salary , claiming up to 3% of the employer’s funds to a certain current account, we believe that this is one of the fairest directions of development, since while he is full of strength, full of professional competencies, he must take maximum care of a time when he will not have the technical forces and competencies to form his own such a decent standard of living. and members of the trade union, turning to us, are pointing out to us that we are actually on the right path, this is really the issue that worries our citizens, well, we will try to be as useful as possible for them in this matter, and for the first time we tatyana was just glad that retirement is not soon, by this time you will have time to finalize

corporate pensions, they will become wow , so this is a plus that it is not soon... you need to use the pension correctly now we are accumulating the accumulation period to you dmitry nikolaevichno good luck on your difficult path, because we know that any ideas take time to implement them. thank you for this conversation, tatyana sherbina, victoria popova, we say goodbye to you for today, goodbye, goodbye, and now dmitry shvaiba is speaking. honest conversation, looking eye to eye. allow you to find answers that are complex, albeit, but nevertheless necessary to find answers, solutions, and determine your image of the future. dmitry nikolaevich, this one the picture, uh, it was drawn by artificial intelligence, that’s how he saw the logo of our program, and i invite you here to leave some wish in our program

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