on air, the weekly socio-political talk show is essentially, as they joked on the sidelines today, we will talk about love, about its fruits, about our children, about our families, about our belarusian future. kiril kazakov and alena syrova are with you, there is a qr code at the bottom of the screen, you can point your smartphone at it and join our live broadcast on youtube, ask your question in your opinion , we will definitely try to figure it out together with the experts, but here on the other side you see a qr code that will lead you - to our behind-the-scenes life, to our telegram channel, so connect and we’ll spend the next hour together. well, i guess i was lucky, yes, i already said this behind the scenes, i say it again, i really, as the only one... the most important thing is

to spend among the ladies who, in principle , to some extent determine this or that situation in our country, and as a man, well, questions will naturally arise in my head, probably not always as you think, or maybe it’s now, again, this is the story that develops for all men, women are from venus, men from mars, but nevertheless, the question is economic, once the president, speaking, said that about 30 million people should live on our territory, we all know history, and many historians, despite the fact that they say no from the subjunctive mood, talk about what would if it weren’t for the war, if it weren’t for some problems that happened in the 20th century, then 30 million people would actually live on the territory of belarus, this is the population size at which we could 100% plan for our own bright future. but in

this case there are just under 10 million of us. in this at the same time, the question arises: how can we achieve this number? accordingly, we would like these to be people who were born on the territory of belarus. europe is solving these migration problems, probably, maybe , this is not our question, but it would seem that, well, well , something like this, but, again to the economics, talking with the chief engineer of one of the factories, he did not... i prayed that now there are a lot of three shifts working, but if the situation with the arrival of young people is the same as now, then in 5-6 years we will have to look these same migrants, because there are really few people who come to work at the plant. olga aleksandrovna, the question here is economic, political, you are a journalist, the head of a tv channel, that is, you are the head of an enterprise. plus, you

head the belarusian women's union, is this issue still demographic, political or economic in your opinion? put it equally between demography, politics and economics, but because it can’t be any other way, and the warriors, well, they say everything correctly, you understand that everything goes through our territory, all these historical events that took place, they washed away, because who? men, those who essentially had to give, well, forgive. well, that’s right, there are healthy offspring, those who had to make up for it, women took upon themselves after the war - all the responsibilities that they could take on, yes, after the war there were large families, because everything was different, to create a family treated differently, the birth of children was treated differently, now often young people - before giving birth to a child, think about how everything will turn out, i would really like to have an apartment, and a car, and a dacha, and a mother, and a father, and a nanny, and that’s all.

at the age of 40, for all these, all these components , and of course there was no such approach before, we remember our grandparents, who had five, seven, my parents from large families, five people mothers, father has seven people, but we, as children, have a completely different story, and our children will have an even more different story, can we fix it right now? this demographic situation? i think that remember the song there was such a fashion for children that has completely passed away, i don’t have a brother, you don’t have a sister. apparently the fashion for children has completely passed, this song didn’t appear today, it’s not from 2020, yes, tikhanovsky poplavskaya sang it back in the days when you and i were with the kids, yes, when you and i still walked under the table, so in in principle, we probably need to start with re-educating even somewhere in our generation as grandparents who must instill in their children - their children some kind of fashion for children, love for children, yes, because we talked so much about how ours - i can easily

cite my child as an example, yes, that is, at 23 years old, i was 23 years old, i have her 24 appeared, but for me it was already a late child, all my classmates already had de. and to me, well, i understood that i should, too, as if i should have a child, but they don’t have that in principle, they replace it with cats, dogs, love for the world around us, and this is all beautiful, what did not come to us from our origins, and take as an example the same uzbekistan , where they still give birth to children and give birth to many of them, such traditions remain in the family, because, thank god, probably this western culture, western values ​​and completely different ideals, so here we have a lot of work ahead of us, as the media, everyone present here and those who deal with the health of girls, children and women, because it is no secret that with our reproductive health not everything is as good as we would like today

in general, you see, it’s necessary with and as the belarusian women’s union, of course, we are now doing absolutely everything to popularize families, so that even our young people don’t know where to meet people, well, everyone has gone to the internet, everyone communicate somewhere in virtual reality, children from virtual reality do not appear, in order for young people to start a family, they need to meet somewhere, so well , no matter how trite it may sound, this is also our question, these are the times, this trends, we said yes, unfortunately, there are also objective circumstances, those conditions, so they said yes that when the war swept across the territory of our country, it is clear that the population became smaller, the post-war period was difficult, well, it is customary to say... well , not at all to the point of have a lot of children in the family, because here you would have to feed one or yourself, well, i bet the nineties were less difficult than the post-war years, but in the post-war years they gave birth to children,

another trend and other trends have already been added, what do i mean, that always you can nod at circumstances, and it is customary to say that in difficult times indeed. are giving birth, elena arkadyevna, if we take our recent past, take the last 5 years there, the most difficult twentieth year that our country experienced, and such a shock, can we say that there was some kind of failure or in the twenty-first year, for example, was there a pandemic, political events, or does all this have nothing to do with real life? well, if we talk about dry statistics, i can say that we have approximately every good... we expect the same minus 10%. that is, there are direct connections between some of these political events, i can’t say that in 1920 they

were amazing in our country, but there were nuances, but globally this cannot affect the birth rate, because anyway in the country there was a stable situation, it was there anyway. a woman who clearly and completely feels this state of security for herself, for her it’s not the twentieth year, not the covid year, yes, the covid year made itself felt a little due to the fact that that people did not communicate at all, that is, if we, in principle, now have a truly virtual version of communication, mainly among young people, then covid times, they led to the fact that people were in such fear that it did not even occur to them that they they can communicate with the goal of... starting a family or discussing the issue of having children , nevertheless, children were still born, of course, and families were created, because well, when a person is motivated to have a child, then by and large there are no cataclysms, so right

they said about the difficult post-war years, the birth rate was very high, people were hungry, they had no clothes, it got to the point that a child who had just been born did not have a clean diaper for him to wrap him. but people still gave birth, because they saw the continuation of their lives, they saw the future and of course they wanted to have children. elina arkadyevna, the concept of an old-time woman has changed , yes, or this is how she says yes, that 24 years old, it was already late at her age, but now this is the earliest age and the most late, or middle age, when women come to give birth, you know that these boundaries are completely erased, we don’t use this at all now... the concept is not old-time, not late-birth, or young, we try not to use any of these phrases, because if a woman came to the stage of motherhood, at 30, at 40 and even at 45 years old, this is her right, but she came to it, and we will help her, and we

think it’s wonderful that she came to it, there are women now, who have already raised children, and these children have already graduated there school, received a higher education, but he had a desire to give birth to another one. and this, of course, is understandable that most often after 40 years, and this, i think, is that this desire is wonderful, it should be supported, and this only says that well, a person, he still sees. the meaning of his life is for him to have children, young girls, it is clear that this is most often an unconscious act, and of course, this is, well, let’s say, some kind of possible mistake, but nevertheless, it ’s still in the country, for example, now we have neither who does not have the goal of forcing a woman to give up pregnancy, we generally have a completely different goal, before a woman, for example, comes and prepares to terminate her pregnancy at her own request, she must be talked to, including by an obstetrician-gynecologist who has training

in psychology, or this is a psychologist, but he definitely talks to her, wanting to dissuade her from this act and still give birth to this child, and you know, this is a fairly effective manipulation, imagine that 35 of the women continue pregnancy and give birth to children, then there is all this effectively, sometimes a person has some kind of internal fears that are enough... for her to give birth to this child, at what age the awareness and desire to do this will come to her, it does not matter at all, irina lenidovna, this is the case that gave hope and a chance to become parents, yes , to many belarusian families, when the opportunity arose for a free, first eco attempt, can you tell me how many couples or how many women have already... applied, taken advantage, how many kids thanks did this light appear, specifically in your center?

this means that we have been working in this program for 2 years already, we started the program in august twenty-one, there are two state centers in this program in the country, which are located in the city of minsk, one state center in the city of gomel, in total 4,200 married couples applied, which the programs were made. we have already given birth to 900 women , taking into account multiple pregnancies, that’s 100 children born; today we have about 500 patients - pregnant, that’s what i’m saying summary data for the republic, well, this is the effect that we were counting on, well, in general, yes, targeted assistance is provided here, because when we talk with our patients, mostly those patients who are referred to us are patients who. .. will do the eco program for the first time, 85%.

at the same time, they have long-term forms of infertility, when we say, well, for what reason did you not apply earlier, did not carry out this program, in general, there is only one answer, people could not afford it financially, therefore indeed, this is state targeted assistance, which gives us additional births of children. you know, i’ll add, in general, an eco-program, not a budget one, in general, just an eco-program in our country. has existed for 20 years, so in 20 years, it would seem, you say, it was worth it, it wasn’t worth it , and so in 20 years our country has been born from the eco program 10,000 new citizens, that is, when we are talking about some decent time intervals, then we get a completely different effect than, yes, of course, this program has only been working for a couple of years, it well, for a certain category of truly citizens, if we take it globally over the entire period of its existence, then this is quite decent. elena arkanevna, you know, you said above that doctors are now trying to move away from these terms

, old-age, young, that is, so as not to separate, but still latently, it seems to me that this is circulating among people, and when they talk about age, these distinctions , what they mean, well, is that, for example, a young girl has a much greater chance of giving birth to a healthy baby than an older woman, there it’s easy and simple to go through your first pregnancy, that’s the poet. these distinctions turn out to be like this, in connection with this i want to ask you, is this really so, because now there is also a trend towards being healthy, and it cannot be said that after 35, for example, everyone there has already given up on themselves, no, they just keep an eye on themselves, take care of themselves , carry out regular check-ups, we now have a whole program in the healthcare sector developed so that people are interested in regularly being examined, in connection with this, here from point of view. how is it going?

well, it is exactly as you imagine, of course, the later this start, naturally the greater the burden of the problem, including various genetic ones, which the work of the geneticist service is now focused on, these are biochemical screenings, and mandatory ultrasound examinations, this is what , which gives us the opportunity to weed out these questions, and yes, age from the point of view of genetic risks is very important, this is clear to everyone, this is no secret to anyone , but on the other hand, and some of course there are problems, it is clear that at 20 years old it is one question, at 45 it is clear that this is a different woman with some other somatic diseases, but we must understand something else, that in general healthcare, the pharmaceutical industry including , some kind of support by specialized specialists, intensive care units, it is developing so quickly that what we yesterday

considered impossible at all, now we don’t even really insist that life... give up children, for example, i i’m talking about such difficult cases as organ transplantation, there are not very many of these women either, well, this is a very narrow group of people, but this is something that, for example, most neighboring countries cannot afford, because , firstly, transplantation is not developed there , since it is developed in our country, since it is developed in our country, and there, accordingly , the obstetric and gynecological service accompanying this pregnancy cannot be developed, this is the first second, we have followed this path a long time ago, nursing children, starting from 500 a. this is about what does he say? this suggests that those patients with severe cardiovascular disease, for example, pathology, with severe heart defects, with severe diabetes mellitus, who enter into pregnancy, we are all fine, and women also understand that this pregnancy cannot be carried to term

, for example, a full-term fetus, but we have such technologies for caring for premature babies that we can take risks with this woman and give her the opportunity to give birth to a child, albeit premature, but we deliver it, first in an intensive care unit using all the technologies that we have, then a department for premature babies , which even forms its own circle, which they constantly communicate, they keep in touch with each other, we have a bank of mother's milk, so that it is possible to feed very premature babies with breast milk, that is, you ... on a completely clear system, now i can tell you that the age of a woman, by and large, has no significance for the obstetric service, practically no significance, with the exception of, of course, genetic risks, yes, there is a question here, marina aleksandrovna, this term was used here, not like in neighboring countries, i completely agree with you, we sometimes have the feeling that it is

profitable to be a mother, that’s exactly how i phrase it, it is profitable to be a mother , starting from three years of maternity leave. about which many are now saying that many mothers, being on maternity leave for a year, then two, and then the third year, no longer know what to do, on the one hand, we really give some kind of social assistance, on the other hand, we sometimes don’t look at how this help how it is used, yes, so that’s what we have, and well, suddenly this question arises now, let’s take a more rational approach to the means that we give mom, well, first i want to say, i really liked what i said president, we bathe your children, every parent must understand, they give birth to this child for themselves, for their future, so that there is a continuation, we will leave, what will remain after us, memory, good deeds, our children, our grandchildren, our great-grandchildren, here this awareness is very important, our

the state really does a lot, offers a lot of social preferences, you said about maternity leave for 3 years, well, practically... in other countries this is not the case, and in our country it is absolutely free to accompany the mother, medical facilities, and institutions before childbirth, we are paid benefits, the so-called maternity leave, yes, and they are paid to everyone in the amount there, i am 860 rubles somewhere, marina aleksanna, but while we are progressively going through all these benefits that are due, there was recent information, correct me. if i'm wrong oh the fact that before women, if they suddenly left maternity leave before 3 years, they could not receive these benefits in full, it is absolutely true , now this is so, if a woman goes back to work full time, full time, she receives half of this benefit all these 3 years, while she is on maternity leave, if she goes to work part-time, she

receives this benefit in full, if you think that it is so easy for the state to pay this money, no, but it is very important for the state to solve the demographic problem, because same our president said: we need a lot of belarusians, and this is the basis of our sovereignty, and for us, demographic security is the most important component of national security as a whole, and we are ready, ready to make various social payments so that there are more of us belarusians, our super measure , our family capital, and today all families with... unfortunately we have a social family. and that perhaps the money, the benefits that they receive for their children, are not spent quite on the needs for which they should, let’s remember august

1920, a stone hill, social families, houses that came out with strollers and protested against the authorities, realizing that the state gave them these apartments simply because they were mothers, that’s not what ’s happening now, it’s just, unfortunately, yes, so it’s possible, i want to say something, that’s all right. you are talking about the fact that we probably do too much, but create conditions, social conditions for women to give birth, but we don’t see the opposite effect, so we are now having a meeting with women’s collectives, with natalya ivanovna kachanova, chairman of the council of the republic, we go and meet with women’s groups, what question do women ask, yeah, the question is asked by small families and because large families are family capital, this is housing, this is free food for children in orphanages.. .the question is the birth of a second child, we need to think about how to stimulate this category, because most often

it happens that either one child appears, or this family is already large with three or more children, the question is the appearance of second ones, and then respectively, third children, these families with two children, you need to think about how, because you very correctly said about the twentieth year, and vivid examples of how these large families, this is now... in order to sell real estate , you need to get permission here on the territory of this country, return to the territory of this country, and so what they did, of course, for what they received for pennies, sold, roughly speaking, for thousands, or tried to sell for thousands, and withdraw this capital there along with these children, no matter how common this situation is, these were rare cases, moreover, i will say that now there are examples of large families returning to us from the baltic countries, not returning, but moving a lot. i literally told about this story to the belarusian women's union, a letter came from a woman, a lithuanian family, they sold the house, she has four children, the youngest child is 9 months old,

she says, i can no longer live in a situation where children go to school and lgbt the agenda interrupts everything, i want to raise my own children in normal conditions in normal traditional conditions, this is the issue of migration that you raised, when we create the conditions so that we really have these conditions. created, our healthcare is at the proper level, our education is at the proper level, we are becoming attractive not only for, for example , citizens of the russian federation or slavs from there, or for ukrainians who come to us, but we are becoming attractive for that part of europe , western europe, who wants to raise their children in normal conditions in traditional values, and this, we also need to prepare for this and we also shouldn’t forget about this, galilin, here you are a mother of many children, the mother’s order in 2020 was received from the hands of the head of state, please remember, this is the difference between your children, which one? well, i have five children, he has five

parents in our family, the eldest is 25 years old, and the youngest is 5 years old, so we wanted a boy in our family, then another boy, we wanted a girl, so we had a fourth girl, a fifth child, it happened before logical, it was already a family, it already happened, it was already right, so i was born into the decision, what olga aleksanrovna spoke about, just a few years ago, i was preparing material, also in my opinion, for mother’s day, and we then we talked with experts about who should be supported more, the scientists said that what really needs support the most are families with one child who are thinking about having a second one, that is, it is more difficult to decide on a second one than on subsequent ones, like were you there? at the time when i gave birth to older children, then there was no such thing - global state support, then there was maternity leave, and when you went to work, the allowance was gone, yes, the allowance was no longer there, well, it

was possible for 3 years, but the child care allowance was not as large as at today, today it’s quite, the kind of money that still needs to be earned, yes , which for some, well, from those bonuses that the state. this is what is most important for you today, the most necessary, the most necessary, and what, in principle, you can live without, and we, in general, we consciously approached the creation of a large family, we have a private house, but it is not so big, so with the help of the state we are building another house, improving the living conditions of our children, we also invested maternal capital there, well, i would like to say about maternal capital... this means, for example, in our family today, we would like, we would like to have such an opportunity, not only

to spend on education. for healthcare, but also to be able to buy a car for the family, many already have housing, medical care, medicine is free here, we can afford education, here’s a good car, especially since we live, for example, in the private sector, and this is a necessity, this is not a luxury at all, this is a necessity that is relevant today, and i would like us to also... use it, but so that in the future such a proposal would be considered, so that they could live with us, now, as far as i understand, it works well, it is thriving, so that there is an opportunity, you are not the first from whom i hear such a proposal, here you are dating, with women, i am dating, so i will say, that they relate differently to maternity capital in terms of what can be paid, and i think we had a meeting in brest, a woman told a story,

by the way, i don’t even know how... we need to dive deep, maybe marina aleksandrovna can tell us the story, when the family capital was spent on dentistry, dad straightened his mouth, inserted beautiful teeth and left the family, along with the family capital, well, you know, such stories too, it’s good when we assume that all such good families will spend specifically on children, and these the money will go to the children as a family, there won’t be these stories of abuse, the family was created consciously, i will also give an example, when several years ago i was preparing material, photographing a wonderful family in which there are five boys, that’s all sons, there is a wonderful mother, wonderful dad, well, everyone is wonderful, when i asked them about what the most popular bonuses provided by the state are for you, they were somehow so confused, because they say that everything is so smoothly running, automatically

it happens, yes, that is, free breakfasts at school, lunches are somehow not noticed there anymore, and somewhere minus 50% for the second child to go to clubs, it also seems like a matter of course, and in the same way they said that mm rely on the state, but you don’t make a mistake yourself, that is, initially it was with this attitude - families who, well, gave birth to children for themselves, look, anastasia grigorievna held an interdepartmental council on friday, and they spoke there, talking, in fact, about the situation, today we hear about the fact that we give birth, well, at least to the mother and child minus 10%. there was a phrase that said that financial preferences no longer work, that is, something seems to be there , yes, we give money, we give the opportunity to build housing, we give parental capital, we have practically free medicine, but at this is the story, it doesn’t work not only in belarus, it doesn’t work in principle in the entire so-called civilized western world, what is

this... well, i would say right away, to catch up, but here we are saying, mer a lot, no effect, there is an effect, but it’s not like that, which we would like so that we can solve our demographic problems , this is how you started the program, in 5 years there will be no one to work, this is really a problem, because then we had a failure, but in 10 years we will have someone to work , because again, the measures that we invested in demography and family capital , 5-9 years, yes, relatively speaking, that is, there is a fairly normal number of them, these are those who will come to the labor market in the thirties, and there in the thirties fifth year, this is it we have invested everything, we have invested, another thing is that each measure has its own effect of such action, and of course, requires constant improvement, today we

are in no way saying that there will be no economic ones, but uh, it is very important to understand, that we need to work from the value component, yes, that is, family, values ​​are not discontinuous things, what we, well, tradition, what alexan spoke about, yes, what we just can’t find, how here - make sure it happens quickly, but it won’t work quickly, here you need to be very work seriously, from all components, because the functions of the family are also changing, yes, if earlier many children were needed for what , in order to actually support their family function, yes, yes, that is, in its pure form, then the child had already become an object of education, after that, again , the role of the parent, the role of the child changed, and today we understand that the family is not only reproduction, but also a leisure, entertainment, psychological function, and another thing is that a family is not created, that

there is a problem with this, again we are moving towards those values, yes, that is, a person is good, if we say that there is a family with one child, this is already good, it means there is already someone to work with, another thing is that we 1600 people alone and with no one, also nowhere, all this is postponed, postponed, in fact it comes to the point that a woman faces the same problems as in the west, because the period of active motherhood is shortening here, 40-45 she will be able , but will she be able to give birth at 40, yes here too big question, today we are talking about motherhood

and family, well, we started talking about the fact that , strictly speaking, economic measures for... strictly speaking, the demographic situation , roughly speaking, the situation in order to encourage a woman to give birth in our country are enough, but then the question of education arises , values, again we are talking about the fact that we have some functions of education now transferred to the state, the state, but it seems to me that it simply cannot cope with all the functions, well, because no, not its task in this, that is, the school, for example, should not educate, partially, of course, it should , but first of all the family, so... i’ll show you this story, you’ve probably seen it, but still, this picture appeared on instagram: girl 14 years old, she is on the island of tears, on a monument that shows the names of those who died in afghanistan, here she shows

such an indecent gesture, the girl was found, she had already given her testimony, said that she was there, little kudos and likes, yes, well , the conversation seems to be about the fact that she has a family turned out to be... very good, that is, we more often, you know, hear this story that if there is a large family, and it is dysfunctional, well, there is such a belief, for some reason, i don’t believe in it, but in fact about they say this, but when you say that this is a good family, like one of them is wealthy, this is what we are talking about, the most important marker in order to understand wealthy and good, this is an equal story, if wealthy, it means good, well, here’s a girl from the city, anna viktorovna, and i know that this is directly it doesn’t concern you, yes, but this is in the city of minsk, this is what the reaction of city authorities, especially city authorities, should be to what this girl did, this is exactly from the story that the state should not be involved in educating

, and first of all the family, or vice versa, they the state, the conventional school and the family must divide this story in half, so that the girls in the conventional history lesson are told that this cannot be done, in the family they are told that this cannot be done. but what impresses me most about this story is not even what it is showed, and how many, as alena says, they wrote likes and that someone was filming her, and these someone probably all went on school excursions together, including to the island of slyos, because all the excursions are around the city of minsk pass, they listened to them so attentively and embraced them so much, this is how the city should react, again, this is not an accusation against the city, i just understand perfectly well that most likely, but what to do about it, well, i should probably say, that the school, students, and parents are full-fledged participants in the educational

process, the process of education, this norm is enshrined in the code, and the foundation of education is laid in the family, it is very important that those values ​​that are instilled in the child in the family and those postulates, foundations that are transmitted by teachers, educators in educational institutions do not diverge, then success in in general, it will be - let's say, one hundred percent, of course, the first question that arises is what caused this act, why, that is, excuse me, to get more likes, somewhere, how to react, in any case there must be a reaction, because, well , let’s put it this way, you’re probably talking to your parents here. because on her page her surname mephedronova was written, you all understand perfectly well that this is a pseudonym, and not the best pseudonym, when a person at her age writes such a surname for herself, she probably understands what she

is doing, she certainly understands, and in my opinion, this is generally an attempt by a child to attract some additional attention to himself, an attempt to win with some kind of - well, generally disgusting act, to attract to disrupt attention, as i say, to arouse additional interest, at least the attention of their parents, so that they are parents. we have a youth wing, let’s just talk to the girl, well, it’s like, turn a blind eye, i agree with you, it’s impossible, that is , let’s also look at some things through the eyes of her peers, let’s show her films as journalists, which we have, yes, maybe in a history lesson, she doesn’t perceive this matter that way, maybe she doesn’t fully understand, i really hope what’s happening, it’s all wonderful, but

there is already a precedent for this, that is, we will now sort of deal with the consequences, of course, we must, but the point is that, you are right, you focused on the fact that the family is prosperous, accordingly, well, as if the parents have the resource to pay attention to your child. what do we mean by a prosperous family, i say one thing that has an equally prosperous family, excuse me, a family can be prosperous and this was shown to us in the twentieth year and there may be enough money, but there is not enough patriotism or love for the homeland, no love for history, no love for one’s roots, well, the presence of money more often spoils people than it educates, re-educates them, let’s move on to the fact, olga aleksandrovna, that this

very usefulness cannot exist without material and moral, this balance , we don’t have this one when i was in china , this is what the chinese told me about their very rich people, the richer a chinese person is, the more patriotic he is, the more he knows about his homeland, the more he tries to give to his homeland, and understand, no matter what you do school, it will show the same gestures to any history teacher. she doesn’t hear about this from the lips of her parents any longer in adolescence, starting even when in adolescence they don’t listen to their mothers or fathers, they have different authority, they live by some other principles of their own, it’s difficult to re-educate them here, but if you tell your child from the cradle, from the potty, that a mother with many children can probably tell it better , your children would do this, no, of course they couldn’t do that, what do i think, i

it seems that education should naturally come from the family, but children look at their peers, and this must definitely start in kindergarten, and it must definitely be at school, i will say this, after 2020, everything changes a little at school, there is more patriotism , this is pleasing, but teachers, either due to their heavy workload there with... some kind of plan, material, they talk about it with caution, or with caution, well, they instill in children such values, because parents are different, parents are also different, the reaction of parents, to be afraid of the reaction of parents, because the most important, the most important task is to educate children, they complement this, yes, but to attract children completely to traditions , love for their homeland, they are a little afraid,

because the parents also grew up different, there is a certain generation, from 20 to 30 years old, who don’t understand anything at all, they don’t understand why children become octoberists, why they need to be accepted as pioneers, brs, by the way, i want to say, in our city little was heard about brs until 2020, now it’s visible, now it’s heard , now they’re starting... and before that it’s there was a concept, the concept of a dysfunctional family is still based on economic indicators, that is, how do we perceive it? well, i absolutely agree that, of course, if we look at it from a legal aspect, this is one thing, this is some kind of framework for this poverty, but we definitely need to look more broadly, because a prosperous family where there is no love for their own children and respect for parents, money. but they will tell you, i love my child,

i feed him only sweets, no, most likely, this gesture was shown here and parents, and the girl saw that there was no responsibility for this, that is, in any case, this is a lack of attention on the part of the parents, and we can call the girl, of course, but we also need to call the parents, so we can understand where still, this is the reason, because we don’t call it, we just understand it, because in order to prevent the following, to what extent the state can invade there, it turns out that yes, we say, the family dissolves in the state, and what if. if this had not happened, what we would have gotten now is yes, that is, it turns out that the family seems to have self-regulation, it has certain foundations and its own implementations, including the reproductive rights of everyone else, but again you still need to control it, because this is the information space open, it does its job. marina aleksandrovna,

forgive me, please, i understand that it ’s a women’s program, but still, marina aleksandrovna, look, olga aleksanna also said this. an interesting thing is that a lot of people come here to us balts, for example, europeans, we are becoming a kind of mecca for a traditional family, and i perfectly understand that these people who come to us, from the point of view of this normality, they are just more ready for what they are doing this girl, this needs to be punished, because they come to belarus, they accept our traditions, accept our foundations, yes, than our people, who, for example, stayed back in august 2020, and after all, we have internal emigration, they still arise these are the girls who come out, maybe should we come up with some kind of measure, i don’t know, but i understand that judging by the amount of money is normal, here’s how you can determine this prosperity, or a dysfunctional family, you know, foreigners came here and it’s normal, yes

, foreigners really love to come to us, i also recently talked with new zealanders, they say you have a reserve, a reserve of human values. they fled from there because there was trouble with the child, the child suddenly, the girl wanted to become a boy, well, they arrived here to save, but mirila, you know, i wouldn’t measure prosperity or disadvantage by economic indicators , love for my children, you know, but this is debatable, they will tell you one will say that love is one thing, another will say that it is another, i i bought a new iphone for my son, but i didn’t buy it for my son... you know, well, somehow before we looked at this differently, even let’s look, this is also one of the threats to national security, this is the continuity of generations, this is ours that’s it, this was our fulcrum, as it used to be, a huge family, that’s all at the same table, respect for elders, mutual assistance, it’s true, yes, some received

less, some received more, somewhere listen to your offspring and they could hit you on the forehead with a spoon. dysfunctional family, prosperous, the children grew up well, got a profession, but what about the juvenile, juvenile, let it remain in europe, there are also certain boundaries, you know, maybe we need to return to the old sources to traditions, now we measure everything in august twentieth year, and i would look further, we have these traditions somewhere lost, you know, and somewhere we have completely different opinion leaders, remember how i really am being honest. well, why is she interesting with her sweet voice, and our children followed her, and maybe we need our own opinion leaders, even youth, young people, so that they don’t show gestures like that, but so that they look up to them, so that

you want to follow these guys go, culture, i don’t know, i’m probably a person of a different generation, but here i really like to watch. old soviet films, remember this film a big family, so i’ll watch it, yes, what i want, i want a big one, even in your personal answer, the question is that education in our family, first of all, it’s true, absolutely, but i still think that the school must also educate, remember, when we talked only about educational functions, and educational functions somehow faded into the background, and this, in my opinion, was wrong, in any case , education is teamwork, and today olga aleksanrovna says, let’s ...our public association will invite this girl, and this is also an element of upbringing, and this is also teamwork, and not just because you know, to get hype there, but we want to help, this is how it should be in our city in the capital, but what about families - and

schools interact, after all, the school educates, i’m interested, i even judge by my own child, well, how would he go to my place, study, come, pass his lessons, then go to school, but at the same time he learns some things from moms and dads are called, yes, what is a flag, why do we call this holiday state, he learns all this in the family, although he studies there , but they don’t fully understand, can i give an example, for now , too, as they say from practice, about the interaction between school and family, which means, well, we know, yes, that for large families, we have large families, children from large families , there are free lunches, breakfasts and so on , before, as far as it was, well, there were some additional ones, i don’t know if it was. they were handing out some cheesecakes, and a little child came home and his mother said, why is it like this? here, my mother explained to him, she says that well, look, this is how the state takes care, the state supports those families who have many children, you have many brothers and sisters, so that’s how it supports you, that is, my mother explained child, how, what, why and why?

i am sure that many children would like to ask such a question, or some other that worries them, to their parents, but perhaps they will not receive such an answer, although the families may be outwardly very prosperous, very wealthy, but this contact between there may be no child and parent, how to track this? well, i have already said that, after all, the teaching and upbringing process is inseparable, today there is an educational component in academic subjects, and, of course, the educational process is complemented by educational activities that are varied in form and content, where parents are also involved, and of course, when parents lead by example, some broadcast their own skills. and when the parent is with the child, as a participant in the event, as a fan,

when a fan culture is formed, this is, in general, probably an invaluable experience that allows the child to feel this unity of requirements, unity of approaches, and well, in fact, the parent will see that word and deed really do not diverge, well, that’s what an example of an educational lesson or lesson at school, so that it is clear, this is 100% about education, my child went on an excursion on saturday, around the frundinsky district, to the temples, they had such an excursion, they rode a bicycle, about the temples they told us that this is an educational or educational story, well, today, as for excursions, excursion support, that is, within the framework of the government decree, today we have the inclusion of these excursions for children from the first to the eleventh grade. at least two excursions a year, and today these excursions can be used by teachers as part of the teaching of academic

disciplines, as well as by class teachers, but kiril, your child, traveled to churches, he came and talked to you at home, told, shared his impressions, you discussed it with him, and when you drove by, listened, forgot, then there is no guarantee that something will remain, something like this will not happen, this is the simplest educational story, yes, we have been talking about it for a long time 3 years, this is listening to the anthem in schools, this is, not only listening, singing the anthem, in any case, the opening of the beginning, about the anthems, for a moment, i remember, on september 1, when the head of state arrived at the technology park, we are present at different events, it’s always different, let’s say directly, and the head of state does not always sing the anthem, but it was impossible to resist , because the guys did it so... sincerely, you know, everyone seems to feel differently at that moment, some are thinking intently, some

sings, here they are the generation that was not shy about their emotions, no one forced them there , i think they didn’t train to sing this anthem in the choir, but their energy was simply amazing, what do i mean, anthems in schools have become and are becoming a tradition, they are performed on september 1, september 17, there on our various holidays... state, and but to what extent is there a response and what task do we set, so that everyone sings or so that everyone understands why it is being done, forced or accustomed? no, the word was forced, in this case, you always understand that it is necessary to educate respect for state symbols, and any solemn event, a significant event, its opening, is accompanied by the performance of the national anthem. bringing out the national flag of our country, these are the mandatory elements of events that take place in an

educational institution, they form relationships, the correct attitude towards the state symbols of our country, so it would be wrong to force anyone to speak here, elena arkadyevna, on the other side of tradition, your leader, again on friday at this council, talked about what you have very... very well, let’s say so, an interesting relationship with the church, because when a child is born, especially as you said, a premature baby, it is very important to baptize him, because again in the church it is believed that he who is not baptized has no one to pray for, this tradition has taken root, that you can now in to come to the maternity hospital and baptize the child, because this is also our belarusian tradition , which we began to follow again not so long ago, well , it seems to me that this is an uninteresting relationship with the church, when a person wants the help of not only doctors for his child, but also higher

powers , higher powers, this is normal. when this is a manifestation of a mother’s love, in principle, well, how can i tell you, we never prevent contacts between relatives and clergy in medical institutions, not only for children, but also for some adults who, well, everyone understands that they die, that they don’t have much time left there, the intensive care unit is always open in this regard, already as for children, it is clear that this is in principle... no means can be superfluous, we understand this perfectly well, the psychological state of the mother in tunuta, when she understands that her child has been baptized, that she can go to church, she can pray for him , she can light a candle, that is, this psychological connection, i am deeply convinced that from the fact that the child is on the breathing in the ditch, he still has a connection with his mother, as

people say, until the age of 3 the umbilical cord is not cut. that is, this psychological state of comfort of a woman, i believe, is also of great importance for the process of a child’s recovery, so you know, there are things that, i was even surprised by the question, well, the question really, if it is raised at serious government events, and the question arises in the fact that, well , church representatives don’t always let you in, but this is a normal story for you, it has become a tradition, so well, there’s still such a moment that olga aleksanrovna gave an example... uzbekistan and in many countries where - well, religion is very high, yes, somehow there are no problems with demographics, and anasia grigorievna, from the point of view of belarus, can we, well, somehow... then to go down this path, taking into account the fact that, in principle, we have always been multi -confessional, our most religious region is the bresse region, where we have the highest birth rate, right,

definitely, yes, well, no problem, of course, here you also greatly overestimated, probably . there are problems, they just may be of a different nature or not so expressed, about religion, of course, we always talk, even now and in the broadcast of the very last block, although in fact the religious factor is very significant, it was religion that probably allowed us to maintain high rates of both birth and fertility , and the size of our family was larger, even though it was a secular state, and even the same uzbekistan, so they say that we give birth, we work, we give birth, we work, they don’t have it in their heads that i will first finish my studies, then i’ll go and work, i’ll earn money, then i’ll give birth, and then maybe i won’t give birth, because there are other alternatives , that is, this is what we lost, but now we need to return it to the head, that is, at the beginning the child, then the implementation is parallel, but now probably, here the future lies in this flexible policy, so that we don’t separate it all, but this process is not quick and has no effect

, as you said from economic measures, but we will see it there in five years, in 10 years, just like the effect of these mm, steps to popularize the family, it seems to me that we too we will see only after some time, it is clear that everyone there tomorrow will not run to give birth to seven, five, 10 children, but is it necessary, after all, alena, this is unconditional, because look, we are talking literally about the post-war period and the period of 2020, how much time separates us, there is very little time, but this time is enough to break the fashion for large families and move on to the birth of one child, well, as if in the best case, yes, so it is clear that the reverse process, god forbid it was twice as fast, but it will also be long, but it needs to start right now, we need to start doing everything in any way right now, our propagandists should do this, the media in families we should, religion, of course, we should bring back the fashion for

large families, we should show that a large family is... happiness, it’s not something that only brings some inconvenience in terms of the fact that now you can travel with small children, you can do whatever you want, you can work, you can earn money, this does not limit in any way, 5-10 years ago the birth of a child limited a woman, that is, the woman had to be with the child, she did not have the opportunity to work online, did not have the opportunity to travel, did not have the opportunity to lead the lifestyle to which she was accustomed, today there is no such thing, well, at the same time, i still adhere to the fact that a family should have as many children as their parents can love and as much attention as they are willing to pay to them without pushing it onto someone else, on grandparents, school, the state, anyone, children, and just the head of state, the other day he said that next year he would like to see a year of quality, as among the options, it seems to me that from the point of view of approaches to demography and to creating a family, this also applies, after all, quality is above all

, but as a man, the only one in this program still comes to say that an economist... this is the most important thing, because money is always on a man’s shoulders, and i am very glad, that we have father's day, you know, merit is also appreciated, otherwise there are many children family, mom and dad.

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