[000:00:00;00] i’ve been working here for 49 years, it was a bit difficult for him to get there in the early nineties, the collapse of the union, the walls were moldy, the roofs didn’t hold water at all, there was no heating as such , they endured it, that’s how they lived, that’s how they lived, you know, that’s what it’s like now a fairy tale, i remember when they brought the first imported grinding machine for finishing grinding, in this workshop where we are located, we manufacture tools from hard alloy here, premium world equipment is used and all our many years of design developments are embodied, this is for machine-building industry, for machine-tool factories, in principle for all large holdings

, we not only put these areas into operation, we... actively used them, we mastered a new product, introduced innovative processes, and today we have products that are not just competes, it is head and shoulders above nearby manufacturers, in principle it correlates with world leaders, so of course, today we boldly say with our heads held high that we are toolmakers, i cannot help but mention our machine tool industry, because one of our innovative projects is a workshop for the production of hydraulic lifts for tractors in belarus ; this site uses exclusively belarusian-made equipment. stankomel, krasny borets, the kirov plant, that is, of course, this emphasizes that our machine tool enterprises are capable of providing the entire range of production equipment. what people did, roughly speaking, in 5 g cones,

is now. we make, for example, 50 kg in reactors. there weren't any flowers here, uh, before that there was simply an institute of inorganic chemistry here, in which ordinary scientific research was carried out, well, it was such a rather difficult period, as i understand it, many departments somehow lost themselves, and we just got caught up in the wave, we organized such a project, npcformes, received government funding and built... on the basis of the institute there is such a pharmaceutical enterprise, if you compare, there was nothing, but there was a good modern production, we make pharmaceutical substances ourselves, accordingly, we develop the entire laboratory, the entire technology, then put it into production, secondly, we also do a certain amount of scientific research that is aimed at finding new antitumor original drugs, we have several projects in which we are testing a compound, which shows

very similar... a promising result and we hope that in the near future we will make new drugs from them. if we take the nomenclature, there were five drugs, now there are about thirty, but these are anti-inflammatory substances and ready-made drugs. we provide 100% of the republic’s needs for these drugs. in just a few years, we went from 10% of exports there, to 40% this year. as for this particular year, we registered. two new drugs are drugs for the treatment of kidney cancer and some other oncological diseases. our products, these 20 drugs, cover all the most common types of disease. i now have in my hands, this is a knee joint endoprosthesis, a lot of work

was done by both our specialists in materials science, designers, like every protest that we make, it is examined on special machines, x-rayed, in order to ensure 100% quality, so that there are no consequences during the operation and after the operation and the patient recovers very well and quickly, thanks to the polishing technologies that we have, an ideal smooth surface is provided that does not wear out and we guarantee that a person can live with this endoprosthesis for more than 10 years, the need for such the endoprosthesis is very large. in the republic of belarus, they need about 3,000 of them per year to carry out operations, but in russia the need is even greater. technologies are not born out of nowhere; they require a foundation of good education, strong scientific schools, and strong design bureaus. and there's a whole system here. belarus has preserved the experience accumulated in the soviet union over the years of independence and increased it. the country today has an innovation infrastructure, and this is part

of state policy. we already have 16 technology parks in each of them developments for new quality, say, production or a new quality of life. we received the status of the name of the technology park in 2008. we have a certificate, certificate number one was very difficult, because before that there was nothing , there was no regulatory framework, there were no pioneers before us, the task or need was to connect science and production, now we already have 15 small innovative resident companies in the technology park, this a wide variety of areas, instrument making, mechanical engineering, and road construction technologies are now very relevant and developments... which are on more widely known is the development of medical equipment, great potential, great groundwork - this is, of course, the achievement of the department, designing the production of devices, technically solving problems that are needed by doctors, needed by medicine, traumatology,

cardiac surgery and other areas. the times of oil and gas, when this was the main thing, the earth resource is disappearing, the future belongs to the latest technologies. fortunately, we created a high-tech park at one time; it will , first of all, bring all these gadgets, iphones, lampshades, etc., it will bring wealth in the future, modern, latest technology. the information picture on saturday will be complemented by a sports day. hello. let's start with football in the 24th round of the national championship. dynamo minsk turned out to be stronger than energetika bgu on the road. the first half ended in equality;

borkovsky responded to bykov's goal. after the break , the capital improved significantly, zorin scored a double. another goal was scored by zherdeev , the result was 4:1. the white-blues already have 54 points after 20. we prepared very scrupulously for the opponent, considering that they beat bote 1:0 at this stadium, of course, the most important thing here, it was important not to allow underestimation , the important factor in achieving victory today was the second half, what the guys added, and well , the goals are probably also a consequence of the fact that we have significantly improved the second half, therefore a well-deserved victory, the closest pursuers of dynamo minsk, grodno neman, hosted bobruisk belshina at home , won 3:1, let’s highlight zubovich’s double. on sunday, two matches of the twenty-fourth round will make changes to the summary table of the draw. naftan is waiting for a visit from torpedo belaz, dynamo bresko will come to gomel. the draw

placed the belarusian beach soccer team in one of the most difficult groups at the world championships. this is the opinion of the head coach of our squad, nicholas alvarada. now the belarusian delegation is in the united arab emirates, which will host the world cup this coming february. one of the most successful sineo teams among team sports in recent years will ultimately compete in quartet c. its opponents in the group stage will be the national teams of japan, senegal and colombia . in the world ranking the japanese are in sixth place: the senegalese are seventh, the colombians are eleventh. belarusians are still outside the top twenty, but the summary report card does not reflect the full picture. we remember that just recently our guys won bronze in the euroleague in alghero, italy, so everything is in our hands. i think that we came across one of the most difficult groups at the world cup, from three opposing

teams, two squads were semi-finalists of the last world cup, and then there is colombia, a big surprise, this is a strong, young and willing to prove team, but we are going all-in and with great desire , we will have to get out of our comfort zone, meeting with opponents in the group, we need to play our own... following our style of play is the main thing so that the outcome of the matches is what we planned. now only some players of the national committee of internal affairs continue to perform at the tournament in russia, the rest have gone on vacation. at the beginning of december, belarusians will get together and begin preparations for the world cup. in the meantime , the country's beach soccer federation is working on training camps in several directions. by the way, the european vector is not a priority, since belarusians it is beneficial to hold friendly games. with representatives of other confederations, the world championship will be held from february 15 to 25. the country's futsal team unsuccessfully played its first home friendly match against the russian team 0:6 at the

uruchya sports palace, alexander chernik's boys conceded three goals in each half. asadov scored a double, telegin, prudnikov and sokolov scored once each. the belarusians scored another goal into their own goal. the score was unpleasant, there were some moments there, slightly positive, somewhere maybe, maybe, probably some degree of luck, maybe we scored first, there were good chances, maybe it was easier. so they missed a couple of goals, it’s already psychological, just a little bit, tomorrow the national team of belarus and russia will meet again on the floor of the uruchie sports complex, the sparring starts at 14:30, the horizon basketball players could not defeat their main rivals from the minsk club in the match of the third round of the national championship. during the meeting, natalia trofimova’s team never managed to take the lead; at the big break, the capital’s left you with 12 points,

the final advantage was 22 points, the final the numbers on the scoreboard are 82, 60, we went initially, well, with the mindset that we wanted to win, of course, and we knew that the game would be difficult, but in the end today everything worked out so well, it’s still quite, well, quite a difference big, so we are happy, the game turned out to be difficult, the opponent is serious, well , we are tired, but it’s nice. club minsk is one of the leaders of the current championship; the team has six points after three matches. the belarusian dudoo championship ended with competitions among mixed pairs, the capital's sports palace hosted for the second time in a row national championship. this was the main domestic start of the season. based on its results , athletes who will continue to fight for an olympic license will be determined. this year , domestic dudaists took to the tatami against each other more than once. the strongest russian team, so our coaching staff had

the opportunity to assess the level of preparation and make adjustments to the work process. there was some kind of minimal break before this start, before the belarusian championship, but i think that we did everything right, we prepared for these competitions correctly, so the interval was kind of short, but intense, the coaching staff told us that we would be preparing for the european championship, so we’ll be starting a training camp soon and preparing for this start. now the coaching staff of the national committee will have to decide on candidates to participate in the abu dhabi grand prix at the end of october, and then at the european championship. and even more sports in the nightly edition of the program, kristina kamysh worked in the studio.

see you. good evening, dmitry evgenievich, good

evening, belarusian tv viewers see dmitry kulyakov, almost every day on the air of the largest russian tv channels. you speak brightly, actively , often uncompromisingly, but who is dmitry kulyakov in more detail, help me figure it out for our tv viewers, who are also your fans in belarus. on the one hand, we have a lot in common, age, we are tv presenters on important tv channels, we studied political technologies, took part in election campaigns. well, they are included in the sanctions lists of western countries, right? here's the other side of the industry film production, i don’t know this at all, i won’t hide it, so let’s start with something simpler, with earthly politics, outside of which probably no one exists today by definition, that’s how you yourself

came into politics, a guy from shakhtyorsk who dreamed not to mine coal, and maybe even go... following the path of my parents to save people’s lives, did i come into politics, you know, these are also words, we have the same thing there, as if they understand, yes, you must either be an official , or dep, well then you came to politics, yes, this is a substantive understanding, but there is a broader understanding , i’m part of it, well, i belong to it , this is politics - this is, in principle, ideally, it owes it for here in the soviet union, in the soviet project it was such a curse that, in principle , every person should be involved in politics, for this he needs to be given an education, and this

was provided by the soviet union, this was the main thing they often laugh about lenin, cook. will be able to rule the state, well, yes, but there’s nothing to laugh about, for this she must to stop being a cook and the soviet project gives her such an opportunity, in that life, she was a cook , she was born, relatively speaking, well, a cook, she will die a cook, yes, the soviet project gave her the opportunity to lead the state, in principle, to get an education , prepare. learn, change your lifestyle, so i believe that politics is a sphere in which in the future, well , in general, all people will take part, and we must achieve this, each person must be able to adequately

engage in politics, we must strive for this, but we are still very far from this, far away, all of humanity, not only you and me in belarus or in russia, in general... but in principle, if we talk about some kind of perspective, which, about which we have always dreamed of, yes, then this is such a prospect, on the other hand, you know, there is a common word, we even perceive it as a dirty word, idiot, well, although dostoevsky, yes , dostoevsky wrote this, so, but it’s important to remember the origin of this word, it has ancient greek origin, in it there was nothing about the meaning of the translation, there are different interpretations, but this is practically the most direct, yes, to simplify the translation, the ancient greeks already understood that a person who is not capable of engaging

in politics, but he is, let’s say, somewhat special, so so, sorry about this one. at our house, in the home library, my father collected it in a targeted way; he put aside some money from each salary, well, the doctors didn’t get very much there, but they saved some money, and there, as if with friends in bookstores, here he is, he's with almost everyone salaries, a certain number of books, we had more than a thousand volumes of them at home, well, homework, well, let's be honest, it was one of the greatest assets of any normal soviet family, and i started reading all this at the age of five, so

approximately, and i read avidly continuously, well, until about 15 years old for sure, it’s like, well, i was walking, everything was all banditry, the indians, everything, well, everything that was needed, that was all, it doesn’t mean that i only sat for but i managed to do both, i read a lot, here in the miners’ city library me and my friend they were considered very strange children, because for about three or four years we probably went to the miners' children's library, every week, on wednesday, with these two bags, we collected 10-12 books and took them home, on wednesday they were for the week , they were returned on wednesday, that’s simple and well, i just understood. that somehow from childhood, probably through books, yes, that this is real life, but such a human one, it is somewhere here in the historical and political sphere. processes, and i can already say this now, in general you need to know that everyone

a person lives in history, of course, he lives on planet earth, in a city, minsk or moscow or shakhtersk, but in general he lives in history, because exactly this historical space corresponds, well, to the life of humanity and to each individual person, as part of his representative, that's why i guessed. at first, yes, then as an adult, i somehow realized that this is real life, it is in this, well , space, and you need to get there, you can get there, no matter where you were born, in a small miner, or in big moscow, some political companies not only leave a mark on history, but actually make this history, so you are credited with working in election campaigns in both russia and ukraine, right? kuchma, yanukovych, yatsenyuk, prokhorov, and painstaking work,

from elaborating the theses of ideas to conveying them to the electorate. this is where the truth is, in my words, yes, or there are some inaccuracies, about which of the clients we can say that he won or lost, maybe some client was especially remembered. and we can talk about this to say, you know, won, lost, did they achieve their goals , well, i think that to one degree or another, in the overwhelming majority of cases they achieved, well, if you start with kuchma, there is ninety-nine year, yes, well, the situation there was similar to the fact that, well, it was like an unsolvable problem, well, that is, he started the election campaign in some very

minimal percentages, yes, but they managed to solve it, was there always a victory, as the main the result you wanted to achieve, or the task, i want to score so much percent, or there to reach second place, to third, it happens in different ways, again, yes , it happens in different ways, but as a rule, these are the specifics of my work, especially when we were actively involved in this, so we usually took on unsolvable problems, well, this, this is how it is, well, they know this, yes, i’m not bragging now, but give an example of an unsolvable problem, for example, in ukraine there, the company of the ninety -ninth year, victor pinchuk, later this was the son-in-law of president kuchma, he was elected in dnepropetrovsk, in the city of dnepropetrovsk so proletarian. where only after privatization he received a plant, so to speak, there, and he moved against

the all-powerful pavel lazarenko, well, he was the complete owner of the dnepropetrovsk region, and on such grounds, you know, well, not political, but in principle, victor was not his man pinchuk was not his man and he went to in this sense, against the structure, well, with all this money , just when they were looking for who could take over this company, many people came there, well , people there said no, we won’t take it, we’ll leave, uh-huh, so, and all this was there 2.5 months before the elections, that is, in a very short period, well, in principle, this situation was recognized as unsolvable, but there were other situations of the same type, well, this is interesting, okay, so explain to me, is it easy to get an adult, self -sufficient, i would even say... person who is hopeful to a certain extent, to speak in your words, with your theses, i’ve never done this, well, you

discuss with the person how you discuss the situation, so you go through it many times from different sides, in order to understand, it is important so that a person understands for himself, well, what it is, how it works, after that he easily finds the words that correspond to his understanding, yeah. yeah, his understanding, not mine, that is, you tried to find these words, we, no, we tried, we deeply worked through every situation, election campaign, political, there, economic, situation in the field, we worked through it together, so the person , well, he grows his understanding so much that he can calmly, in general , you know, that’s all, well, that’s all, that’s what

you said that’s all... no one is going to buy it. well, you know, write a general speech of the candidate, such a speech for all occasions, and then we leave the blocs, this is all quackery, well, from my point of view, someone may think differently, i ’m not saying that everyone should they think the same as i do, no, they shouldn’t, okay, then how do you feel about the fact that some, some experts call you a very effective and professional manipulator. but at the same time they do not hesitate to accuse that by bringing the same yanukovych to power, you almost provoked and almost guilty of the orange revolution, well, yes , i was guilty of everything, well, first of all, about the word manipulator, i don’t know what they want to say with this, well, so to speak, no one has ever been on my hand i wasn’t there, that’s all, well, it comes from the word hand, and to manipulate, that’s right, it’s all

nonsense, well, maybe someone for some reason. consideration to such words, uh, says, you know, what’s the matter, uh, well, really, there, if we talk about 2004, then, uh, a difficult situation, which, after which there was the orange revolution, well, it took place precisely because yanukovych de facto won, well, in the second round, i just know that. that they were united differently, no, did not suit me, this became the reason , because the states could not do otherwise, because well, i no longer know what my role is, so to speak, but

the role of the fact that there was a revolution is the role of united states. because the entire headquarters and company of yushchenko was led by the american embassy, ​​directly, well, literally, they went by car to all the events, when yushchenko’s deputies were destroying warehouses with products third candidates, yeah, not yanukovych, that’s why there were cars from the embassy standing nearby and american diplomats were sitting there, watching, watching everything, everyone was happy with it, well , that’s why you’re asking, who? created, well, uh, the orange revolution, well, yes, i, we, we really worked, well , yanukovych’s victory really took place, actually took place, and precisely because it took place, the americans staged an orange revolution, because, well, how would be a link, you know, who manipulated whom, that is, in if i then, if in this pledge, that’s how you,

well, they conveyed someone’s question, or someone’s opinion, then it’s necessary. to say that kulyakov manipulated the american embassy, ​​i agree, and i like this answer, yes, i agree, these two years, twenty-third, twenty-four, you see, they are replete with election campaigns, from the end of twenty-third, twenty -four then the beginning of twenty-fifth , slovakia, now, poland in october, so, usa, russia, ukraine, i don’t even remember georgia, and then we are belarusians, right? now, since we are not challenging your skill on this, i don’t i said, by the way, well, this is de facto perceived as a tribute to experience in any case , then for the second and third, that is, poland and the usa, i’ll ask for forecasts, but for the last one for belarus, the advice is that there won’t be a last one, well, i

have great respect to the belarusian state to the belarusian people, i think that you are doing everything right and in general are overcoming such problems of a young, in a historical sense, state that is becoming, which many have not been able to overcome, and not only in the post-soviet space in the world, is accepted as a fact, but that’s very true. in general, such historical activity, it always happens on the verge of death, so far you are coping with this matter , well, several crises have historically been resolved, i am sure that everything will continue to be fine here, so i won’t advise anything

, that’s exactly it so to speak, out of respect for the fact that... uh, in my opinion, in the post-soviet space, belarus definitely, at least, well, if not historically completely proved, then showed that it can, well. unlike many, we i was lucky with the president, yes, because i have something to compare with, so i’ll tell you this, when i saw alexander grigorievich with a machine gun and with his son, many there giggled something, well, by the way, i swore at them very much, impartial words to those who giggled, that’s because i understood, again with my historical philosophical bias, that alexander grigorievich definitely understands. the relationship between power and its price, this is life, actually, and his readiness to protect the state from death, well, even at the cost

of his life, this is not just very strong gesture, and this is a deep understanding of nature, historical nature, the things with which we are dealing, that’s because if you go back to the fourteenth year, when the same... escaped, he destroyed ukraine in this sense, that’s because, well, well, i don’t want to here , it’s just like this, it’s diametrical, yes, well, a diametrical approach , how a statesman disconnects from a politician, well, politics, that’s how you want it, yes, that’s it, i also have such a thing, many again ... they argue, but i will say that this behavior of lukashenka, from my point of view, was

motivated primarily by state and not personal interest, although many interpret, yes, this behavior as personal, this is an unfair interpretation, false, because exactly the opposite is true, that’s why i said about belarus what i think, and i i think, by the way. here is this formula, already completing, here is this formula, which, in my opinion, lukashenko also proposed, yes, two countries, one fatherland, well, somehow he is close , at least he said many times, regarding russia, we have one fatherland, yes , we have yes from brest to vladevostok yes, that’s what, you see, how, after all, the russian empire in its history, it is, well, unique, i ’m not afraid of this word, because... there are no such examples in the world where multidirectional cultural -ethnic-religious communities, even in

the early periods of history, when this did not exist at all, well, typical there since the middle ages or enlightened absolutism, they had, well, such. as equal opportunities as could be conceived in principle then, this is the story of how russia, big russia, can live as a form coexistence of common, fundamentally different, yeah, not assimilated, you know, i understand, but fundamentally different , this is where we draw our strength, this is

civilizational... but a huge number of peoples, the russian empire and the soviet union, came from assimilation by other peoples, it is from this process that you are afraid that russia will absorb you , so you look at history, russia created the conditions for you to survive, unassimilated, by the poles there, the turks, well , in any direction, but look, here this is historical... russia and i understand that the majority of the belarusian people, the majority, both the leader and the president

, understand this, that’s what we can calmly, in this sense there is no guile in the words that we are we are building equals, well, some large community, that’s absolutely certain, there is no guile here, we are really building it on equal terms, despite the fact that we have fossils and something else, which means, well, belarus is a small state, understandable, but this is not determined by this, because equality is determined by the cultural and historical meaning in the future, of course, we can return to the poles, the poles and americans need to return , forecast, yes, you know, here i want to say, but in general i don’t care, in general it doesn’t matter, that is, you think, nothing depends on the elections, no, well, something probably depends , so i’m going to refute myself now, i think there, for example, that it’s not...

trump suddenly jumped out, in the sixteenth year, this gave russia 4, well, at least 2 years without war, because if there was a clinton, the war would be ukraine, and maybe much wider in ukraine, and maybe belarus would have ended up there, all this would have started no later than 1918, if there had been a clinton, yeah, that’s why there are such people, how to prove it, this is us again now, i i can build a chain here, but i am deeply convinced of this, in this sense, the sudden appearance of trump gave us, and russia , first of all, four or at least two extra years, so to speak , which we made good use of, used them correctly , that's probably why something it depends, in america, that a situation will happen

that they will not cope with the electoral process. what will cause this? economy? everything is there, they actually have a systemic crisis, and the economy, politics, they practically can’t talk to each other anymore, well, one america to another, well, well, many people think that it has always been like this, you know, like this it has always not been, because until the end of the 19th century they lived relying on their own resources, yes, it has always been an oligarchy state, since its inception, because few, for example, they know, yes, that this is we are the people, where the constitution begins, and so these people, in my opinion, there were 16 or 18,000 people throughout america, well, those who were admitted,

and hundreds of thousands more there were not admitted, here... voting rights and it has always been like this, the last law discriminating against the participation of blacks in the election campaign was repealed in 1966, yeah, you and i were born there immediately after that, in the last states where discrimination in voting rights disappeared, here it is , that's sixty sixth year, here, but how is it that a small ... group of worthy people will rule over everyone else, this was planned from the very beginning, this is how it was built, well, from there the qualifications and so on and while this small group was cleared from the territory of america and as if with their own resources, and even then there were difficulties, yes, of course, and before the civil war they figured out that for them the biggest

cataclysm so far... this is how they will deal with the whole world, then real problems began, but then you understand, one thing this is the case to keep the system in conditions of resource abundance, and another thing in conditions of resource shortage, these are, as they said in odessa, two big differences, the last century lives in a situation of resource shortage, in fact, as a social economic system, they lost to the soviet union, well, if we consider this well, as if as an experiment, and a scientific one, that’s because , well, having used the printing of the dollar and the refusal of the gold filling of this very dollar,

so... since that time they have been living in a situation of virtual debt, many say, so what like, so what, we have the notorious 32 trillion, 33 is already 33, and marat sergevich is 33, and i think that very quickly now a trillion will be added literally every six months, yeah, well, okay, this is like a canvas, yes , after all, as a result, trump faces 600 years, yes, 600 years, yes, imprisonment, handsome biden. well, he, well, let's get straight, he can barely move, what is the result, there will be elections anyway, there will be, or they will leave both of them, well, the old people, someone... a young one will jump out, but this must be decided within a week, so or they will get together these two titans, then everything could completely fall apart, that’s because

, well, it won’t be possible to send trump through postal services a second time, well, it won’t work, yes, they will get together, well, they will get along, that’s basically necessary, i proceed from the fact that in america in hidden forms, a civil war is already... underway, it is often already taking on obvious forms, so if this scenario remains, that two powerful old men will come together, then this is fraught with a transition to open forms of civil war, within the country , within the country, yes, within the country, poland, even less we are interested, because even tusk, even this second one, which is european, is to win, and this is also not important, but many of ours , you know, raikin, of our youth had this in his reprises, this is

a very interesting topic in the dissertation, that - it’s in the nose, many of us like it, yes, if kaczynski is there, then he will be, so it’s like, here’s the problem here

, well, it’s polish, in the tens you talked about the strategy of confrontation between the usa and russia, medium- and long-term, they warned about sanctions, about the participation of npos and foundations in dehumanization of russia, preventing yeltsinism and so on, right? i understand that there are certain echoes of the same philosophy of zinoviev, as i see it, yes, who 40 years ago spoke about americanization. europe will ultimately determine america's course entirely. okay, so what lessons have russia learned from its mistakes, including what needs

to be done? well, after all, almost 15 years have passed. well, look, the fact that i said this, yes, it’s not a great merit, because in principle it is necessary, well, to have it simply historically. look, yes, because, here we are, we often say, we curse the nineties, and there is, and there is a reason, yes, i’m not talking about that now , yes, why is it bad, we hide the depth of the problems behind the nineties, well, we cursed the nineties and sort of figured it out, everything is wrong, because the processes that led us to the most critical points of the late nineties began much earlier, even perestroika. they started in the sixties, that's what i mean, well, first of all, consumer society, yeah, it was

brought to us completely under khrushchev, when he started with nixon, there are these videos, talking about how we have food processors in every soviet apartment no worse than your food processors, that’s all, well... and then it all ended with a clause being written into the charter of the communist party , that the goal of the communist party is to increasingly satisfy the constantly growing material and spiritual needs of the soviet people, by the way, how can you satisfy everything that is constantly, well, constantly growing? can someone logically say that, well maybe it’s an accent after all was made for the spiritual, yes for the spiritual, yes, but it was understood that this was, as it were, a cast. or the formula of a consumer society, when a person, this is a statement that, well, why was a person born, they used to suffer, right? what is the meaning of life, why were you given life?

well, first of all, well, for life, you don’t have to bother, just for life, for pleasure, well, life, you have to live life with pleasure, these are all these elements that arose then, by the way, the fact that the collapse of the soviet union came full circle , exactly to the shortage of vcrs, canned beer and jeans, in the broad sense, well, how did the program work, well, people were promised that they would be given all this for 30 years, and they didn’t give it, the spiritual distance from jeans, canned beer and a vcr in every soviet family will live to 200, apartment, no, there are generally deep things there, you see, no one understands this , we haven’t written the true history of the soviet period at all, we haven’t figured it out, by the way, if we talk about... lessons that we haven’t done, yes, then we haven’t fully

done, no one realizes what it means that khrushchev promised that the soviet people would live in communism by the year 1980, yeah, that’s for everyone according to their needs, yes, according to their ability, but the soviet people came out, saw the olympics, but didn’t see communism they saw it in 1980, and what does that mean, and that means that, well, it’s like the authorities are lying, that’s, well, actually. you walk down the street, well , we are of the same generation, you walk down the street and you see a poster: the party, the mind, the honor and conscience of our era, so the conscience of our era is gone promised that there would be communism in the 1980s, and in many of our cities the oil disappeared, at that time, you know, yes, that’s why all this pacifism there, so we talk there about how people feel about the svo, and i generally think , that we are on the verge of a rather large, well, military confrontation, how

it will unfold there, i’m not a fortune teller, yes, but the americans won’t just give up, and they won’t just leave, this also needs to be understood, but here again you and i, as people of the same generation, remember that for the soviet people, as long as there was no war, it was official, generally peaceful, in general you, well, relative to the population, most. the patriotic war is belarus, if i’m not mistaken, a third of the population, yes, but i’m not mistaken, because as a child, my father took me to khatyn, to brest, to minsk, as a boy, so that i could see it all with my own eyes, so, therefore, this thing was used, well, against us, because, well, in what sense do we not want war, to what extent, yes, well, that is. we ’ll give up our mother too, yes, just so there won’t be a war, where is this border, this is not

, well, this was not discussed, and then you understand , when afghanistan happened, i am not discussing now whether it is necessary or not, but at the same time i definitely had to go there, i definitely think that the military is there we completed our task, well, but since we, the soviet people, betrayed our soviet army in afghanistan, yeah, that ’s where it all started, then the subsequent... collapse, so to speak, yes, i didn’t send you there, we didn’t send you there they sent it, and there was a lot of stuff like that, that’s all it was, so you see, these are the lessons of history, it is very important to get to the depth where something really originated, to understand, accordingly, how it grew and how it grew here, then you have a chance to correct something, but dmitry, you have already set these are the questions, right? which many of our people are afraid of, well, they believe that they are too global