[000:00:00;00] that of course, consumer society is only a consequence, a manifestation, yes, because, well, this process is 500 years old, it begins with the revival of the generally notorious and ends at its apogee, uh, with the philosopher nietzsche, who argued the death of god and creation mortal man instead of god, it’s one and the same thing. only one is at the beginning, and the other at the end, so, because, well, this whole european part did not begin to be built on identification with the church and religion with god, well, it came to its complete, well, absence, the question is that

superman project. did not take place, the european superman project did not take place, even despite the fact that the jungle and the blooming garden, no, all this remains, they think, well, that is, russian, that is , they have these categories, that’s right, the russian essence is in foundation of european civilization, this is the main brick , well, that is, these are wild hordes, bears in the streets, these are just such elements that will constantly sound like a narrative of how this russian... nature took shape european civilization, this needs to be examined separately, but here you are right, we do not disagree here, i say, but in what he did not succeed, and he could not be a superman, at least in a big sense, well, like the german superman, who leads the semi-supermen of the europeans, lost russian barbarian, do you understand why they demolish monuments, and somehow more than once yes, do you

understand? why are they demolishing monuments, they are not demolishing them against us, they are demolishing them for themselves, so that they don’t have the memory that they lost, already, well, they need to finally this is to finally free your people from this, by the way, these are the conditions for a new war in order to drive the europeans against the russians, well, against the multinational russians, i mean here and all belarusians. the rest, in order to drive a european into a multinational russian, you need to deprive him of his memory of what, so to speak, all previous attempts led to, the cossacks in paris, yes, these, that’s why the monuments need to be removed, that’s why first of all the monuments need to be removed, because that these are the conditions of a future war, if you

you can’t remove them, well, difficulties arise, that’s why it’s a question of preserving... the chances , we understand this, we are different, different layers, different groups of our society, be it russian or belarusian, in this sense it is one, as well such a society, they understand this, it is clear that here there cannot be some kind of wave, a wand, here we are. logical search, a very meaningful search, very healthy, never so, well, it wasn’t like this, that’s the first thing, yes , that is, we must answer, well, that a person without god, well, it will be a different person, that, well, it is not clear whether it will happen, yes, what will happen there, this is the first, second, of course, this is what concerns social matter,

this... we need a society in which rights will correspond to responsibilities, this is a fundamental thing thrown out liberalism, consciously, yes, she must, she must return, because you understand, well, for the right to vote on the agvar, ancient greek or on the fura of the novel in ancient rome, with his life, he had against this right a place in the cohort or in phallange, uh-huh, and that’s why he voted, because if suddenly something happens, he stands with a sword and a spear and right up to death, well, look, you just touched on this topic when you talked about our president, yes, that he is ready, yes, he is ready

.. that’s why we didn’t fall apart, well, maybe, in any case, i should talk about mine , yes, for belarus first of all, the president explains many complex things that we are now saying in simple language, and not just explains, but we consolidate it, including in the constitution, that we have a man and a woman, that we have historical memory, yes, about the fact that we have a religion, about how important it is to call children a boy and a girl, how important the land is, the native land, yes, and that ordinary people, well, this is really a real... value, here we are we hear this from our president, yes, maybe this is the same, this is the same , this is a movement in this direction, mind you, here are the changes in the constitution, yours and ours are very similar, because in our latest

changes the word god of the constitution appeared , the concept of family is fixed, and so on, here everything that we get, we have a chance, there is, there is, there is, and a good chance , in principle, you see, well, i think that in general, many people who want to remain people in europe, in america, well, i don’t know how they will develop, but if it goes along the same lines as it does, then a lot of people will come here, and they will hear us in general, in principle, i mean the average statistical european, they will hear, and those those who do not hear, then do not want to hear, those who have ears to hear. well, this is the truth, let's move away from philosophy a little, i like it but unfortunately, practical things are also needed, yes , i’ll touch on what we just started in the first question, i’m far from film producing,

yes, and you don’t just get involved in this, well, you ’re free to do it, well, no, let’s get straight to say, there are specific films that you produced, the same film with bezrukovy and hefty, yes, i did not conduct a full analysis, well, it seemed to me that most of the actors involved in these films, after the twenty- second year, yes, they remained their patriots countries, well, i don’t know, all or not all, but here we go sergei bezrukov, definitely absolutely, well, i talked to lisa on the phone, we showed it for the anniversary of the film, she just couldn’t come, in my opinion everything is fine there too, well , i don’t want to, okay, but you generally expected such stigmatization of the homeland from some people, well, let’s say, well-known people in russia, but you know what’s the matter, i expected it, i didn’t expect

it, well, it’s always like this, well, it happens, it’s, well, how can i tell you, well, it seems to me that you’re being a little disingenuous now, i’ll explain why , yes, for me every such case, i’ll say, it’s like a personal loss, no. no, no, they, and how do they differ, well, from ordinary people, well, no one owes anyone anything, no, but there are also ordinary people who are just the same, well, but when you are a symbol to a certain extent, you must balance his behavior with this symbolism, you understand, when i say this, i’m not making excuses, i’m saying this, yes , i’m not saying this in justification, i’m just about, i don’t want to just overestimate all this, well, overestimate, you you see, here’s to pugachev , yes, well, that’s where? more, well, what she did, she did, everyone forgot, she didn’t help me interesting, i don’t want to discuss all this at all, well, she did, you know, that’s it, the line is drawn, this is written, goodbye,

well, for me, for example, it’s endless, that’s it, but for you personally, that’s it date, could it go backwards? after that, in the sense in which i say this, no, well, that’s when...’ i say this, it means that to me this person in a cultural-historical sense, in fact, well, such people of this caliber, culturally -creative figures could apply for a place, well, in some cultural and historical line, ours, yes, but i believe that pugacheva, for example , excluded herself from this, and returning to this line is impossible, if you are asking whether they can legally enter the country there, no, no , not about that. yes, they can, but here, the law must be followed, but to return in the full sense of the word, for me, no, well , for me, no, but not only shpugachev is, let me give a simple example, yes,

shepelev, in the twentieth he cursed i don’t know if he cursed us, well, no, it was, it was, he called crime, i didn’t study this, yes, then he cursed you on the twenty-second, and then he returns to the air of the federal channel, how’s that? i don’t know, well, after all, the channel’s management is in charge of the channel’s politics, but it’s definitely not me who is doing this. well, i saw it there in hisselvo, he was there in mariupol, well, and this is an indulgence, in donbass, you know, what’s the matter, that’s it, well, it’s a rather complicated question, in fact, i’m not meandering, i i’m not meandering now, no, i understand, precisely because i understand that how difficult this question is, well, a person can, should have the right. well, how can i change my point of view, yes, he must commit

some actions, and what actions from your point of view will be sufficient for us to understand him? i don’t know, everyone must decide this for themselves, in general , i’ll be honest, why am i answering this question this way? i don’t think it’s that important, that’s because... well, here’s going over to the side of the enemy, many have done, including, well, in such a writing and creative environment, so he probably exists, so to speak, yes, and also with the public, well position, in principle, we probably need some kind of legal elaboration of this kind of act, and here we can’t get away

with just putting a marker on the agent, yeah, that’s why, because we still need legal qualification of such things by law , so that society is not in a state of frustration, so to speak, and an uncertain search for the degree of guilt, the possibility of forgiveness. this, this state of uncertainty, where everyone develops their own criteria, exactly, and such things, that’s what i’m leading to, such things should to be decided legally, yes, it should be like a judicial-legal qualification , guilty or innocent, that’s because, well, to the extent of public censure, well, we are there as a society, television, for example, or writing there, well, i can express my censure to those who... well, but this is nothing more

, i’m not a court, and calling for something to be done in relation to a person is also such a thing, well, it’s strange, you need legal qualifications, and you need legal judgment, judgment, guilty? then it will be clarity, because you understand, right there, well, it’s like about repressions, well said , dovlatov, in my opinion, comrade stalin, of course, did this, and we don’t like him for it, well, i’m close to the text, but i have a question, you wrote 5 million denunciations, yeah, or four, he

said there, 4 million denunciations, that’s why. this is a slippery topic, everyone, firstly, on the one hand, everyone must decide for themselves how to treat this, on the other hand there should be, well, after all, the law is that space where some kind of maximum to the extent that such complex issues are resolved, in the space of the law there should be criteria that are completely clearly defined,