[000:00:00;00] they didn’t have the memory that they had already lost, well, they need to finally free their people from this, finally, this is the conditions for a new war in order to drive the europeans into russians, well, into multinational russians, i mean here and all the rest of the belarusians, in order to drive a european into a multinational russian, you need to deprive him of his memory. about what all previous attempts, so to speak, led to, that is, the cossacks in paris, yes, these ones, that’s why the monuments need to be removed, that’s why, first of all, the monuments need to be removed, because that these are the conditions of a future war, if you don’t remove them, then well, difficulties arise, that’s why it’s a question of preserving man with god in the future, well, and i think that here

we have very good chances. we understand this, we have different ways, different layers, different groups of our society, be it russian or belarusian, in this sense it is one, like such a society, we understand it, yes, it is clear that there cannot be some kind of there, once he waved his wand, here we are in this historical search, very meaningful search, very healthy, never so, well, it was not like this, this is the first thing, yes, that is, one must answer, well, that a person without god, well, it will be another person, it is, well, it is not clear whether he will be, yes, what will happen there, this is the first, second, of course, this is what concerns social matter, we need a society in which rights will correspond to responsibilities, this is

a fundamental... thing thrown out by liberalism, deliberately, yes, here, she must, she must return, because , you know, for the right to vote on the agvar, ancient greek or on the fora of the novel in ancient rome, for the right to vote a citizen, of athens or rome, paid with his life, he had against this right a place in the cohort or in the phalanx, yeah, and that’s why he voted, because what if suddenly , he stands with a sword and a spear until death, well, look, you just touched on this topic when you talked about our president, yes, that he is ready, yes, yes, ready, to lay down his life, so we did not fall apart , well, maybe, well, in any

case, i should talk about my own, yes, belarus. first of all, the president explains many complex things that we are talking about now in simple language, and not just explains, but we enshrine this, including in the constitution, that we have a man and a woman, that we we have a historical memory, yes, that we have a religion , about how important it is to call children a boy and a girl, how important the native land is, and that ordinary people, well, this is really a real value, so we hear this from our president , maybe this is some kind of that same one, this movement in this direction, note here are the changes in the constitution, yours and ours are very similar, because in our latest changes the word god of the constitution appeared, the concept of family was enshrined, and so on, so everything

works out for us, we have a chance, there is, there is. there is also a good chance, in principle, you see, well, i think that in general, many people who want to remain human, in europe, in america, well, i don’t know how it will develop, but if it goes in that line , as it goes, a lot of people will go here, and they will hear us in general, in principle, i mean apparently, the average european will hear. and those who don’t hear, then don’t want to hear, those who have ears will hear, well, this is the truth, let’s move away from philosophy a little, i like it, but unfortunately, practical things are also needed, yes, i’ll touch on what we just started in the first question, i am far from film producing, yes, but you don’t just hang around in this, well, you are free in this, well, no, well , let’s be honest, there are specific

films that you produced, the same film with bezrukov and dyuzhev and with boyarskaya milona. i haven't done a full analysis. well , it seemed to me that most of those employed in these. in the actors, after the twenty-second year, yes, they remained patriots of their country, but not all, well, i don’t know, all or not all, well , sergei bezdrukov, absolutely absolutely, well, i talked with lisa, on the phone, we showed anniversary of the film, she just couldn’t come, well, in my opinion, everything is fine there too, well, i don’t want to, okay, but did you expect such stigmatization of the homeland from some? persons, well, let’s say, well-known persons in russia, but you understand what’s the matter, i expected, i didn’t expect, well, it’s always like this, well, it happens, it’s, well, how can i tell you, well, it seems to me that you’re being a little disingenuous now, i’ll explain why,

yes, for me, every such case, i ’ll say, it’s like a personal loss, no, no, no, they, and how do they differ, well, from ordinary people, well, no one owes anyone anything, no, but there are also ordinary people who are just the same, well, but when you are a symbol to a certain extent, you must balance your behavior with this symbolism, you understand when i say this, i’m not saying this as an excuse, but i i’m not saying this as an excuse, i’m just talking about it, i don’t want to just overestimate all this, well, overestimate, you understand, for pugachev, yes, well, much more, well, what she did, she did, everyone forgot, she i’m not interested, i don’t want to discuss all this at all... well, she did, you know, everything, the line is drawn, it’s written , this, goodbye, well, for me, for example, and endlessly, this is well, but for you personally , this is goodbye, can it

go in reverse? after that, in the sense in which i say this, no, well, there you go when i say this, it means that to me this person in the cultural-historical sense, in fact, well, such people of this...' scale, cultural and creative figures could claim a place, well, in some cultural-historical line of ours, yes, but i believe that pugacheva, for example, excluded herself from this and returning to this line is impossible, if you ask about whether they can legally enter the country, no, no, not about that, yes they can, but we don’t, they can enter may the law be enforced, but to return in the full sense of the word, for me no, but for me no , but not only shpugachev is, let me give a simple example, yes, shepelev, in the twentieth he cursed us, i don’t know if he cursed, well, no , it was, it was, he called when i didn’t study this, yes

, then in the twenty-second he cursed you, and then he returns to the air of the federal channel, it’s like, i don’t know, i, well, after all. the channel’s management is in charge of the channel’s politics, but it’s definitely not me who is doing this, well , i saw it there according to shipelev, i was there in mariupol, well, this is an indulgence, in the donbass, you know, what’s the matter, this is the same , well, this is a rather complicated question, in fact, i’m not delirious, i’m not delirious now, no, i understand, precisely because i understand that to what extent this is a difficult question, well, a person can, should have the right, well, how to change his point of view, yes, he must commit some actions, and what actions from your point of view will be sufficient for us to understand him? i don’t know,

everyone has to decide this for themselves too, in general, i’ll be honest, i why so well to answer this question, i don’t think... it’s so important, because well, a lot of people have made the transition to the side of the enemy, including, well, in such a writing and creative environment, that’s for sure, so to speak, yes, also with a public position, well, in principle, it’s probably necessary... this is a legal elaboration of this kind of act, and we can’t get away with just putting a marker on the agent, yeah, that’s why, because we need everything -

the legal qualification of such things by law, so that society is not in a state of frustration, so to speak, and an uncertain search for a degree. this is a state of uncertainty, where everyone develops their own criteria, and such things, this is what i’m leading to, such things must be decided. yes,