[000:00:00;00] writers and the creative environment, he certainly exists, so to speak, yes , even with a public, well, position, in principle, probably, some kind of legal elaboration of this kind of act is needed, and we cannot get away with just putting a marker, there for an agent, yeah, that's why, because we still need legal. qualification by law of such things, so that society is not in a state of frustration, so to speak, and an uncertain search for the degree of guilt, well, yes, let's be blunt, the possibility of forgiveness, this is this state uncertainty, where everyone develops their own criteria, and such things, this is what i’m leading to, such things must be decided legally, yes,

it should be, as it were, guilty or innocent? well, because, well, in terms of public censure, well, we are there as a society, television for example, or writing there, well, i can express my censure to those who did something, but that’s nothing more, i’m not a judge , and to call, to do in relation to a person, this is also such a, well, kind of thing, well, strange, we need legal qualifications and you need a legal judgment, a court decision, guilty, not guilty , then there will be clarity, because you know, right there, well, it’s like about repressions,

dovlatov said it well, in my opinion, comrade... of course we did it too we don’t like him for this, well, i’m close to the text, but i have a question, you wrote 5 million denunciations, yeah, or four, he said there, 4 million denunciations, that’s why this is a slippery topic, everyone, first of all, should on the one hand, everyone must decide for themselves how to treat this, on the other hand, one must maybe, well, after all, the law is the space where such complex issues are resolved to the maximum extent, in the space of the law there must be a criterion, absolutely clearly

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belarus 24 is what we are absolutely disgusted with. hello, you are watching the program don’t be silent, in the studio of victoria popova and tatyana sherbina. and today our guest is the presenter of the sas program, nadezhda sas, who has the authority to declare on the stv channel. hello, nadezhda, by popular demand from our viewers, you are with us again and we are also happy to synchronize watches after a year of our meeting, because... well there is what to discuss, in particular, belarusian political scientists noted with your appearance on our screens that the international agenda has become more vividly covered, do you agree with this statement?

i hope that the viewer also thinks, for me this is incredibly nice to hear, because this is rather a review of my work, we try, we try to find interesting experts who are ready to talk. of course, most often european politicians appear on our skype program; i had the opportunity to communicate with them personally in brussels, in we met with them in strasbourg, but as it turned out, the leadership of the european union, the european bureaucrats did not like it, but again this is a sign that the work was carried out quite successfully, effectively, that is, the guests of the program can fully say that these are mainly personal contacts , personal contacts, but you know, it’s surprising that despite all this international hysteria, there are more and more people ready to communicate with us, because those politicians do not agree with the current course, they do not have the opportunity to convey their

vision of what is happening, their opinion, because the mainstream media simply do not want to interview them, and adequate people who think about the consequences, understand that the lack of dialogue creates, only intensifies... this conflict gives rise to quite tragic episodes, they know that they need to talk, we need to maintain this dialogue with belarus and the russian federation, and i am glad that we are facilitating this, and there is a desire, but there are also fears, for example, there are sanctions against them in relation to those who, and in what cases you can, when our wonderful release from the press center of the european parliament took place in december. then european deputies came into contact with us, these are tatyana shdanok, representing latvia, maximilian kra, representing germany, and monsieur jovan, a french politician, and a european deputy. after this interview

, our rather frank one, critical of the current leadership of the european union as a whole, and a very sincere conversation went on air, you can’t imagine what kind of hait wave began. from the latvian media, the vice-president of the european parliament, who is also latvian, well you know, he gave a public reprimand to tatyana arkadyevna, and after that, naturally , they began to investigate steve, how they ended up here. and when in april, already in strasbourg, i found access to irish police officers who were ready to talk quite openly with us. i previously wrote a letter that i would like to take advantage of such an opportunity again as a journalist, please provide me with a studio, to which they answered nadezhda, no, you are on the list... you don’t have such an opportunity,

i said: dear friends, i already bought tickets, i have already received confirmation from the deputies, so i am going, i have arrived, i went to the european parliament as a visitor, i wanted to have a conversation with them, well, for now there are no cameras in the office, the security service of the european parliament asked me to leave this institution, saying that i i am an undesirable person, showed me a letter from the president of the european parliament roberto mizola. in which in this blocklist there is only nadezhda sas, belarusian media, yeah, but i say, listen, dear friends, i am a citizen of ukraine, and i have the right as citizen of ukraine communicate with those people who meet me halfway, are ready to hear me, i, as a citizen of ukraine, have the right to voice an alternative position than the one we hear today from president zelsky and his team, but you see, this once again confirms that that all european values ​​and these are no longer values, this is a soap bubble that has burst, and today

they are terribly afraid to be left alone with the brainchild that they gave birth to, let’s take a look at what is happening today in germany, an alternative for germany second in according to sociological polls, according to popularity, political force, again in germany , and what is happening today, crazy terror, attacks on representatives of this political force, europe has ceased to be not just a stronghold of any... certain ideals, it is being destroyed from within thank god that there are still politicians who are ready to take this blow, today to be a politician in europe who does not correspond to all these globalist liberal ideas is scary, they understand that but nevertheless they want convey their position, and maintain contacts, that is, they burn with the fire of journalism, in general , the calling of our profession, well, wait , hope, but tell me in person, here... they say: you must leave, and you are leaving

the building, your own heels , i had my small camera, they really wanted to check my personal belongings, they would have taken it, i had already recorded a number of politicians on camera, i did a small quick poll for them, after that i was able to communicate with the french, and those critical assessments, i think , no one would they be in the european parliament was not pleased, because people understand that their opinion is secondary, it is not... it is not even asked, and you know, this is the illusion of choice that europeans have today, it would seem, at every political race, we see enough a diverse picture, and such a party, and this, and that, but basically, most of them are people who represent the same political class, a certain one, but they are like this, well, i can’t say that these are maronettes, this screens that are controllable. no

already european leaders, who once could still inspire and admire, and today even the same elections that took place not so long ago in slovakia, they shocked everyone, how come, what a cliché, the number of clichés has already been hung on this gentleman robert fitz, he is already a puppet of the kremlin, an agent , pro-russian, whatever, i am glad that slovakia came to its senses, it made the right choice, which confused me, that the liberal-globalist progressive party took second place. slovakia is an absolutely soros product, and what is amazing about kosice in bratislavia, they took first place, and naturally, it upsets me, as a mother, as a person, as a citizen, that their age audience is 20 plus, that is, these are the people who will be our future, these are young people, young people vote for these projects , after all, you, they know how to get into their head, or it’s just a purchase, they know how to eat unconditionally. and

financing of companies, because today it is impossible to support any political force, not belarus or russia, no matter how anyone says, there is someone in the bottom line the kremlin, this is all naturally nonsense, but globalist structures are a network , which is financed, supported by grants, the politician does not receive a salary directly, he, for example, organizes this or that conference, this one... is invited, and then receives a thank-you envelope, you know, it’s called physical, that is, this is the monetary reward for participation, well, we heard this in katya tikhomirova’s film, now politics is not supported, these are the times and morals, give it to us in an envelope, here another question: when you spoke in the european parliament, they didn’t give you access, when they found out that you were a citizen of ukraine , what was the reaction, absolutely nothing, they didn’t know what to do about it, naturally i demanded, on what grounds, what what kind of letter is this, what kind of letter is this, yes, i see the signature of the president, but this is wonderful

, explain to me, no, he says, we will send it to you by email, i received a letter by email saying that i did not receive accreditation, i had the right to enter, but i entered the european parliament as a visitor, one of the deputies invited me, but what probably annoyed them most of all was that when they took me out, i could have been confused, gone somewhere in the corner to cry, but i wrote emails to those deputies with whom i planned to have a meeting, i said: guys, help me out, i want to make this material, i’m glad to thank you for your response, let’s do this against the backdrop of the european parliament and we’ve recorded it. nadezhda, what if, following the movie cliché, you call radio liberty there, demand the attention of journalists, shout where democracy is, journalists there, can this be all, or is

this whole performance no longer working, well, look, i already think that as a citizen of ukraine, i owe my duty. i continue to maintain contacts not only with europeans, but also with americans and to tell the truth , which they will unfortunately never hear, and indeed with the same irish we talked about the number of victims, about how corruption flourishes in ukraine, and this is the most paradoxical thing, but i am very upset to see from people in ukraine that the ukrainians themselves do not understand this, in one of broadcasts, the editor took part in the club, yes, so i said that ukrainians are awakening, they are waking up, but can you imagine the inner devastation people get when for a year and a half they believed in something, and these ideals, they crumbled, like this sand castle, oh, i watch

teachers at universities, how they change their point of view, i read on facebook, they leave universities because it is impossible to work. that is , the agenda becomes very one-sided, and thinking people are forced to go on a free swim in order to fence yourself off from this harsh ukrainian anti-russian propaganda, in 856 abraham lincoln said a wonderful phrase , it is applicable to what is happening in ukraine, you can deceive everyone for a while, you can deceive some all the time, but you cannot deceive everyone all the time, this... this really that phrase that describes what is happening and you know, i very often listened to the ukrainian anthem, and i was surprised by two phrases, the first: ukraine has not yet died, glory is not will, and

ukraine has not yet died, that is, you know, this is very wrong message, not yet, well, that means let’s wait a little longer, let’s fight for independence, for sovereignty, then we’ll see what’s left of this country, second, our enemies will perish... our enemies will perish, disappear, dissolve like dew on the sun, this is again a reference to infantilism, and this infantilism, it costs too much, faith in miracles, yes, somehow we always have the perception of ukraine, hospitable, generous, kind, open, gogol’s ukraine, magical, magical , means a non-existent , incongruous reality, well, it she was hospitable, nadia, in fairness, it must be said, and when a group of marginalized people representing western ukraine imposed their point of view on absolutely the entire country , when representatives of the east were driven into a corner, when their opinion was not taken into account, when a president was elected, he was expelled, you know,

probably back in 2005, the russian intellectual modest kollerov wrote in one of his columns: revolutions are happening in those countries that you don’t feel sorry for if suddenly... some hero appears and says: guys, now for the sake of your ideals, for the sake of your specific goals, today we will overthrow that regime and we will have a new bright future, it’s all a lie. ukraine once again proves this by the fact that every year, yes, well, we are all disappointed with this atom, we take the next one, that is, it seems that already today we are preparing for the next one, the most offensive, the most unpleasant, even for us, yes for neighbors, we observe that these are our fraternal peoples, it’s a shame that some of the ukrainians themselves do not feel sorry for their country, it’s one thing when soros doesn’t feel sorry, but another thing when the citizens themselves don’t feel sorry for their own, what kind of brainwashing took place and about the ukrainian citizen nadezhda, a question, your

portrait now adorns the city of minsk, i walked past another kiosk and noticed a poster, and i had a question, maybe belarusians are thinking, looking at this portrait , and that she came to teach us about life, that is , do you think there is a connection between you and the audience, have you already managed to establish contact? first, i didn’t come here to live and teach, this is forced emigration, because in ukraine there is a special military operation, war, military conflict, but this is reality, and i am glad that belarus gave me the opportunity to continue to live this, and it seems to me that the viewer, firstly, he can appreciate my product for professionalism, for new approaches, and i didn’t come to teach anyone. i just want to give people the opportunity to see once again how much they

have at the moment, and this is the main thing, how does the belarusian viewer differ from the ukrainian viewer in your opinion? intelligence, intellectuality, exactingness, at some point i already i said during our previous meeting that the ukrainian television, media space, at some point it turned into showmanship, well, again, evidence of this is our current president and the desire for endless hakhlascha, i allow myself, and as a person related to the state, to see exclusively an argument, an inability to separate the wheat from the chaff, immersion in this crazy, chaotic life, everything, and the inability to draw conclusions, i really like that sas is authorized to say - it is always quite balanced, calm... program and there is no this hysteria, or maybe you lack this drive

, well, you want to dance like a seagull, you understand perfectly well what this leads to when you are an adult, well, it seems to me that you will agree with me, you don’t want to this incomprehensible and thoughtless burlesque, you want to understand that every action you take has consequences, this is a certain responsibility, you don’t want to fool people, you don’t want to let them. on the picture, blurring the eye and not giving the opportunity to really see the essence what is happening, well, this is great, i also feel respect for the presenter for her audience, yes, that is, we are now talking about some kind of affiliate program, a project in which people trust each other, both the audience and the presenters to their viewers, i will very much wait and i will be grateful to be a viewer if they are also active in the comments, i have never asked for this before, but it is very cool when a viewer, and he makes it clear to the presenter what topics are interesting to him, i hope, i also

wanted to ask, so you said ukrainian television, and we know this, there were facts, went towards chauvinism, but the russian one did not lag behind, i mean in terms of propaganda, we also remember that all these rules of the game, they successfully migrated to russia, i wanted to ask , who's here? well, in general, where is the egg, where is the chicken , taught so to speak by this trick. that’s how similar we are, we, someone says, are fraternal people, or are we one whole, the origins are still the same, yes, very similar, ukraine copied russia, russia played along, teased ukraine, that’s how it was quite a mutually beneficial game, but at some point you would still need to stop and sit down to talk, you know, when there is a lot of... even interpersonal conflicts, when there is a lot of disagreement, omissions,

envy, resentment, people should sit down, everything reset this for yourself, or sincerely say about it, that’s all the negotiation processes, unfortunately, even why they disrupted all the negotiation processes, didn’t let, didn’t let, didn’t let it be implemented, ukraine at some point renounced its history, its roots , i saw a friend, a partner in someone else, an absolutely non... non-existent image, but the west is friendly to america, the west will now protect us, it will join in, we understand, in such ecstasy, everything turned out to be different, and indeed, in march 2022 there was every chance to stop this war, to sit down to the negotiating table, to say, okay, we have these conditions, you have these, let 's look for a compromise, who played the main violin, it was great britain, although here is the key, the first weeks of the conflict, all ukrainians were convinced that this war was lost. zelensky was in poland. you have no idea

how much it cost western curators to return him to kiev. during his life, he was convinced that he would be killed, and great britain, it is aimed at a tough war, and still is, because we see how, in fact, all this militant rhetoric is pouring in in the west, america i’m not ready to carry this war through biden’s many, many election campaigns, he is collapsing and wonderful people understand that this is really a corruption scheme, ukraine has become an offence for the west and when all this is revealed, i am convinced that it will be too early or it will happen later, it’s not for nothing that we see reznikov, and the former minister, who goes off with his millions , buying himself a luxurious pitchfork, a wedding gift for his daughter, yes, these are the same people who work in the military registration and enlistment offices, how they got rich, i have there is one acquaintance, i have already said this phrase, but

it is so beautiful in its simplicity, the one who yesterday walked in two left slippers, today has become a king who today is really leading the country to such an abyss, and the most amazing thing is if you today you arrive in kiev, you will not have the complete feeling that you are in a country where people are dying, just like in moscow, i saw artemy lebedev’s post, you will never say that this country is at war, yes, patriarchs, ponds, famous ones, patricks, they are crowded with people who are also idly viing, but if you go to any village in the kiev region, you will see an exclusively female population there, there are no men there, already, and we are talking about the fact that this game will be long and it’s just the other day, the other day i read a statement from one of the american rich men,

who said, ukrainians, what are you doing , why are you burying... uh, your soldiers in the ground , this is our land, there are crematoria, that is, you are using black soil irrationally, what level of cynicism is this? i don’t even want to comment on this, it’s all terrible and i’m very scared to imagine how people will sooner or later open their eyes, tear off all these rose-colored glasses and be left alone with their grief, let’s take a break, for a while... i remind you, we have a telegram channel , say don't be silent, subscribe, ask questions and invite guests, we are in touch. the program say don’t be silent is on air again, and today our guest is the charming presenter

of the capital’s television, nadezhda sas. hope, let's watch a fragment of the release. your program, we’ll discuss it later. yes, the hungarian special services, obviously not without a hint from their ocean curators, did everything possible to disrupt the preparation of this program, conducting a search of all sorts of humiliating checks right at the budapest airport, ultimately closing my entry into hungary and deporting me. i note that the night before deportation, i was accompanied by the hungarian police at the airport, in a temporary detention center. what was it, hope, an unforgettable experience, you know, moments when you suddenly grow up, you understand that this is already such a very adult dangerous game, yes, we prepared a lot, we wanted to make a really interesting special episode from hungary, me and my cameraman got it received accreditation in the hungarian parliament, agreed on a number of meetings with politicians,

hungarian and swedish, who were ready to communicate with us, and there were experts, political experts, and again there was even a western journalist, an american one, but upon arrival in budapest, before i had time to get off the gangway , four people approached me, these were representatives of the hungarian police and two intelligence officers, i later figured out that these were the special services, they i was detained. they said that it was necessary to check the documents, and it was even funny in some ways, because during the flight, here is nikolai, the operator who was flying with me, i told him kolya, well, you know, such adventures sometimes happen to me, therefore, when kolya followed me i saw this whole picture, of course he understood, yes, and by the way, he too, here it is again , you know, if you want to sneak in

unnoticed, a mother was flying next to us with two children, with two things... she asked him, please help me, i say, kolya, please, take care of the girl and her children, and he comes out as an element of this married couple and kolya remained free, although one of the representatives of the special services was looking for him, but you know, when kolya passed, i exhaled, i think everything is fine, there will be material, we will record these interviews, yes, i reported that a number of states have blocked my entry, this is such a ben, yes, a ban on entry to visit, that is, they have me listed as a dangerous person, one of the policemen told me: a very dangerous person, i say, look at me, it seems to me that this does not sound like a threat to national security yet, it’s just simply dangerous, but i understand that most likely, when we received

accreditation, clearly checked the documents, saw that, yes, perhaps there were already some certain marks, it was a full-fledged surgery because i'm not like that i entered the master's course a long time ago, the lomonosov moscow state university, the direction is called: information, hybrid wars, and so we are looking at various special operations that are being carried out now are especially relevant, here is the professor who lectures for me said: nadya, you know, if at 29 for years you haven’t been greeted in the schengen zone and by representatives of the special services, which means you haven’t done much in your life, i say, well, okay, then let’s look at it this way, it will be nice, it will be something for the children, that is, it was just your exam, your professor, but weren’t you scared? it was extremely unpleasant, moreover, they asked questions, you are returning to ukraine, you and you, we are forced to deport you, i understood perfectly well that i did not want to see the ambassador, the consul of ukraine next to me, i did not want to

be sent to ukraine , i flew from istanbul, i said, guys, i flew from istanbul, take me back to istanbul, a search was carried out, extremely humiliating, unpleasant, but you know, nothing, i remained calm, i understood that they had absolutely nothing for me, yes, it was exclusively, rather a moment of psychological pressure, so that i would no longer have a reason, and indeed, i was informed back in july that there was a meeting of one of the factions of the european parliament, where roberto mezzola, president of the european parliament, said there was a campaign ahead, elections in 2024 in june in the european parliament, so be careful, beware of journalists who contact you, check the information , because no matter what, we still

continue to work, well, it’s interesting, we are talking about the fact that hungary goes against the policy of the european union is contrary, but we understand that the intelligence services work completely differently, it is impossible to resist this now, of course, there is viktor orban, an inspiring person. to the extent that this person will not turn out to be a pig in a poke, as happened with meloni in italy, yes, there was one pre-election election campaign, again a person was elected, took a chair and the point of sitting determines the point of view, then let's talk about the future of europe, here which way do you think the wind blows? oh, it seems to me that this wind has already brought europe to the point of no return, the only subject that, yes, the object of international relations, that wins, is the united states of america, at the moment,

europe has paid too high a price, without understanding at all for what, and today, if this wave of protests does not pass in the near future, politicians who are right-wing in their views will not be elected, europe will face an extremely dark situation. times, the loss, firstly, of subjectivity, sovereignty, although it has indeed already lost it in many ways, this is an economic crisis, this is exclusively the imposition of this globalist ideology, it’s not for nothing that the soros foundation left europe, because everything has already been done, the job is done, but the moor can leave, they really were brainwashed, that’s an unpleasant verb , they were washed, but you can’t call it any other way, today i it seems that... it is important to note that it is very easy to control a person who does not have a root system, for example, a social unit, what is this? this is in our minds, this is a family, this is a man,

a woman, as a result of their union, love, children appear, this is a cell that carries responsibility for each other, which can build certain plans, dreams, goals, and take root, yes, they cannot be intimidated, they cannot be used when a european teenager or young man today, he wakes up, it seems to me, having read the absurdity that is in the mainstream today in europe, he’ll probably spend half a day thinking about who i am, i’m gay, lesbian, queer, you know, this self-identification is imposed, and what religion am i, i’m not a believer, an atheist, or someone, a catholic, a baptist, that is, there were, and countries , in which there was a certain, but here is the order, there were norms, there were ideas about who we are, today all this is absolutely nihilated , destroyed, and a person, he is confused, he no longer becomes... a truly

independent player, this is such a vegetable, even in some ways it is possible so to speak, it was not for nothing that i made a program about soros, and at the same time it was important to emphasize that this is not such a terrible kraken, george soros, you know, he will take over the whole world, but we have enough photos, repulsive, but this is a screen , because really, those who see themselves in something, but as a world government, they naturally want to be in the shadows. and on the public plane, we mainly see only such a person, but this, this is a very complex system, and an elite club, it never accepts interracial unions, among their children you will not see people with certain deviations, that is, there is an elite, and there is this people, while this people is hawking, these people’s wallets are filled, this system works, but what do you think about his general

personality and the empire that he built? it’s just that in our studio there was an opinion that this is simple, as they called it, now i remember, well, he was a businessman, a speculator, a financier, a philosopher, well , no one considers him an ideologist, but let’s start with the fact that he still adopted this ideology from karl popper, a man... who really had quite a key influence on him, because he taught with him, the open society was revived from his lectures, and george soros, when he really became a person with such financial opportunities, he really did at some point for a number of states that happily let him in , even ukraine, and they

truly became saviors, saviors who bring bright ideas, yes, we are open to all people, regardless of what race or religion one of you is, and we fed them with grants, built a network of influence, and these soros, the notorious ones, are today, despite the fact that zelsky was not one, but they are those dolls by the strings that you pull, like this, being in a completely different... part of the world, you can control certain processes, and why is it difficult to believe it, that we are so controlled by some kind of shadow government, oh, because, because a person cannot believe that the world is so cynical , it is so vile, because when you begin to plunge into it, of course you become scared, it seems to you that you are small, you are a squeak in this system, and this colossus, it will definitely eat you, yeah. but you

know, such states today as the republic of belarus, like the russian federation, which are opposing, today there is a civilizational war, really inspire hope, many believe that especially in ukraine, people don’t believe in this, they think, no, we are the only victim there, no, friends, everything is much more complicated and the future of humanity will depend on who comes out of this game as the winner, although at the moment... at the moment we understand that there will be no winners, but the system is being rebuilt, the former unipolar channel is already in oblivion, it will be multipolar , russia demands respect for itself, it will receive it, and we talked about the fact that zelsky is being dumped, and you in your issue, one of the last, about this they said it indicated this, what facts can be cited here to say that yes , his lack of support, in his speech at the un genasami , practically, the hall of this evidence, you know,

this once again confirms that western society was watching this picture, everything that was happening, exclusively, as an interesting element of your daily routine, which you know a little, evokes new emotions in you, when from this, yes, when you are tired of this, when you are faced with rather boorish, sometimes undiplomatic responses to behavior, zelelensky. actually and an ungrateful person, among other things, that is, they naturally showed who is the boss here, you are not allowed to communicate with us. in this tone, if you continue to behave this way, we will cut off your financial assistance. what is happening now, i don’t know, it’s quite a cold shower for the leadership of ukraine, and how the allies easily turned away from them, why? yes, today is the main battle, yes, here is

the election in poland, october 15, peace, kaczynski’s justice, tusk’s civic position, suddenly we looked at ukrainian phobia, how is it so, why? the poles allow themselves this because they turned to sociology, saw that indeed the number of ukrainians , the behavior that ukrainians sometimes allow themselves irritate many, there are historical references that, frankly speaking, have never been friendly between the two states, poland , ukraine, and there won’t be any prerequisites, nadya, moreover , there won’t be, naturally, even duda suddenly for... were about their promises, someone else dreamed of recreating some kind of triple alliance there, poland, ukraine, britain, well, at least for a certain period of time, kuleba spoke about this, today this is the position, it will worsen, the problem is that ukraine believed those people who easily

stuck a knife in its back, i think that evidence that he is being leaked is what everyone is talking about, the speech of the esovets, but in canadian, when? i realized that it’s not difficult to deceive someone who is happy to be deceived, it’s really expensive , a lot of media have written about it, europeans should still open up a little periodically books on history and remember where which part of which... country fought for whom? ukraine today, naturally, glorifies bandera, paints german crosses on its tanks, they think that this is revenge for the great patriotic war, we have allies, we have some tanks, german tanks, but they are fighting on the territory of ukraine, okay, there are abrams and

much more, but america, if during the second world war it was on the side of the soviet union, then today it is with ukraine, ukraine could build a truly successful information war, if... it didn’t have this russophobia, which already borders so much on hatred , on something inhuman, and so they got those heroes, or rather heroized those bastards, i’ll even say so, so europe actually remembers, historical memory, it exists, it’s moments like these that will turn them away from the current government, and one of the first to react was, again , poland, although today it’s customary for us to scold it too, but here it’s like only applause for poland, which endured yes to the only thing that seems strange is that the request was from minister of education, and not from the minister, say, of internal affairs or , but just in case, before the election campaign, tanya,

ministers who have political weight, they prefer to remain silent, yes, once again we see this, projects that were previously funded by international organizations , will be completed. the president signed the corresponding decree in september, as a man who, with all proletarian love , dealt with the sorosites. what can you say about this document, is it timely, with intelligent hatred, i would say so, not with proletarian love, wonderful decisions and absolutely justified, but many, of course, but there are fugitives there, who say the belarusian opposition there, naturally howled, but today you need to think about security, security is not only your physical safety, it is the preservation of borders, this is also mental security , what is happening today with the education system

in ukraine, how they are trying to change and re-educate children today, you know, now in mcdonald's, which operates quite successfully in ukraine, books have appeared, where they tell a number of artists, creative personalities who, for example, he met him, she met her, that is, gender roles, completely, and i really, when i was watching and preparing for the program, a series of interviews, i really applauded alexander grigorievich for his the decision, yeah, strong-willed, absolutely, not just not to let george soros in, at some point to say, stop, that's enough, thank you, we. here somehow themselves and this is what they can do and what you can learn from them from the globalists, liberals, is to play for a long time, first sow grain. watch it sprout, the famous averton window, yes, i remember that 25 years ago

, childfree, philosophy was on the agenda, now it is already trying to transform yes, to these same-sex relationships, which are normal, even for catholics our belarusian catholics are being told by the priests that what’s wrong, by the way, ukraine also became at some point after the military conflict a hub for surrogacy, and today many same-sex couples help them a child appeared, ukraine, ukrainian women who do not have the opportunity to feed their family, usually women who have three or more children, divorced, the sums they receive are quite meager, it is about 50,000 dollars, i remember that exactly... 5 years ago i watched, we had a film festival that showed a film from the eastern european

bloc, and the main problems of people in bulgaria, hungary, romania were poverty, terrible and surrogacy, that is, i i understand that the resource has been exhausted, and we now need ukrainian surrogate mothers, and we, i mean europe, yes, which simply openly takes advantage of this, unfortunately, and if you don’t put barriers in the form of such decrees, which are really our fugitives are screaming, then very soon it will all be here in belarus. and if, again, we talk about children and politics, then the fact that ukrainian children are taken out is already a fairly well-known fact, but here, children from donbass are now vacationing in belarus. and here is a very recent example, when european diplomats were invited to novopolatsk, talk to these children, have a look, they refused, citing the fact that they did not invite a representative of ukraine, and from

the ukrainian embassy, ​​well, this is the clearest example of the fact that, strictly speaking, they really don’t need it, they really don’t needed, not needed by those who sit in high offices today, and this story is absolutely disgusting, this is such a distorted truth and reality, these are complete fakes that still find support in the person of the departed. who left the country of belarus, were offended, but traitors, indeed the resolution of the european parliament is very painful, unfair, what mrs. tikhanovskaya stands for really raises questions, but today we must not remain silent, we must fight, we must still try to organize international exhibitions, i don’t know, at the belarusian embassy in the european union. try to convey the truth, try to come out, or create your own, english-language

resources, because the worst thing is when you are inactive in this information war, i always remember the story of the bully, it’s incredibly complex, brought to absolutely an information operation, the russian federation came out on the losing side in this case, it did not invite the same international cross, there were no peacekeepers-observers, it left . ukrainian soldiers came in, committed a number of crimes, passed it off as a crime to the russian army, the russian army was all, after that this information was thrown in, people accepted it, the information was emotional, then it remained somewhere in the subcortex, that is , this fake became for a certain group of people already true, after we are saying that the international tribunal will blame putin, that is, we are no longer disputing this first fake, this is... the chain that transforms it from a fake into a real one, well, this is the narrative of the liberals,

the first thing they start with today discussions, this is what they say butch, that is, with the children of donbass on the territory of belarus - this is the same fake that today all the media are trying to turn into some absolutely perverted distorted things, this is terrible, but in no case should you remain silent close. you are bastards, we don’t want to communicate with you, no, there are not only bastards there, there are also people there, and we must give these people the opportunity to be heard to say that guys, your only chance of survival is in an alliance with us, by the way, about alexander grigoryich has repeatedly said this, but now we’ll take a break for a while, after a short pause we’ll return to this studio again, for now subscribe to our telegram channel, say don’t be silent, look for all our releases on the youtube

channel belarus 1. say again don’t be silent with us visiting journalist nadezhda saaz is priceless hope, it seems to me that your ukrainian experience and as an expert you are a very bright color in all belarusian television studios, but the years go by and when we reproach the fugitives for losing contact with belarus, but they really are losing it, we are we feel whether we can apply this optics to you, are you losing your understanding of the processes that are now happening in ukraine? i don’t lose, because i’m still partially there, because my parents are there, i’m integrated into all the processes that happen there, because i’m constantly in touch, i i follow, i communicate with people, i am very glad that

those friends who at the beginning of 2022 cursed you and called you a traitor are starting to return. today people say hello and want to improve relationships, yes , i am very glad, we have already talked about your deportation from hungary, here is a call to fire the head of the belarusian red cross dmitry shevtsov, do you think these are things of the same order? it seems to me that these things are much more serious, this is another bridge that they decided to burn, this is an absolutely rash decision, you know, it's very difficult to explain. the actions of people who absolutely seem stupid, although perhaps many belarusian experts would say, well, they are such bastards, they have always played against the rules, they further aggravate this situation, we have already lost confidence in sport, and as an organization that is outside

politics, to culture, now also the red cross, well, you know, you probably need to reach the bottom in order to push off , reach the bottom in order to push off, and this scares me, i want, you know, to meet old age, raise children, see grandchildren, there are a number of people, political experts, very careless, who think that yes , but we are still in heaven, yes, let’s take this situation, this hatred to the absolute level, let’s hit them, hit them, it becomes scary, it gives me goosebumps, but i hope that we as humanity will pass this test with dignity, without... catastrophic mistakes , but a similar story that happened to the representative of belarus and the red cross, it suggests that there are those who want to aggravate this situation, really bring it to extreme point, and the most disgusting thing is that

these images, but those fairly well-established international organizations, certain processes of interaction between people, between... countries, they are collapsing, well, then what does our world rest on? well, rather, this war really, in addition to the fact that it will revive a new system of international relations and present it to the world, but probably will try to build some new postulates in people’s relationships, because everything is old and they are already somewhere in the dustbin of history, you mentioned, what are you studying, why did you want your education? reinforce with new knowledge, here you know, i breathed such a wonderful flavor of youth, adolescence, student years, they are wonderful, but unfortunately, my diploma, a master’s degree in international law, remained in kiev, somewhere there in the verkhovna rada she brought it, because she wanted to be an assistant to a deputy, so

in general, i left him there, so for one of my programs , which dealt with information wars, information confrontation, moscow state university, which created this brainchild of his, this course, the master’s program in information-hybrid wars, he talked about it, i was very interested, he he is wonderful as a speaker, we are waiting for him in our studio, hope, i will certainly help, and indeed i passed the entrance exams, prepared all the documents, i entered, i just admire you , hope, but one more question, look, we have already said that there is a breakdown of civilization, spheres of influence, all these big words that fill the information space today, we also heard, but what kind of future do you see for ukraine, for your beloved country? i really want ukraine to return to this slavic family, because where she is being invited today is absolutely not her choice, it is not the choice

of ukrainians, this is a huge trap, there is still time to stop. well, we’ll take a break, this time i think our pause between recordings will be shorter, last time it was a year, now we hope to see you more often. in our studio, because the viewer fell in love with you, we fell in love with you, we really hope that all sorts of special services will break their teeth about you and will not interfere with your journalistic work, good luck, thank you very much, tatyana syurbina, victoria popova, goodbye, goodbye, see you goodbye, and now nadezhda sas says, i wish each of us not to lose common sense, maintain a cool mind, be able to be objective, constructive, and of course, humane, because humanity and mercy will save us in this rather difficult time period, thank you.

nadezhda, according to established tradition, we invite all our guests to leave their autograph and a small wish for us and our viewers, one of the lines of the song by vladimir semenovich vysotsky sounds like this: forward

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