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belarus 24. information and analytical project current microphone on air on the belarusian radio and tv channel belarus 24, with you the presenter andrei sych, as well as our guests political scientist yuri voskresensky and a member of the highest political council of the belarusian party belaya rus, andrei yesman. we discuss the most pressing issues

that concern each of us, primarily today, these are events in israel, the confrontation with palestine, everyone will be able to ask their own question. no matter how terrible it may sound, unfortunately, we have already become accustomed to the picture of armed confrontation, especially watching the conflict on the territory of ukraine, but what is happening today in the confrontation between israel and palestine is truly shocking, that is, such ... massive strikes are being carried out , bombings, we saw to what extent the cities of palestine are on fire today, the horrifying number of victims, wounded, killed, yuri, what is the nature of the confrontation, the nature of those contradictions that were laid down with the help of western states, 100 years ago, back in the balfour declaration,

so-called, who promised in this territory the creation of a jewish state that would not persecute other religions and lay claim to other lands, these are the contradictions that each side interpreted in its own way, from this everything went well with the balfour declaration of 1917. by the way, what’s interesting is that this declaration was published in the same issue of the times, in which there was an article about the october revolution in russia, it consisted of 67 words, these 67 words resulted in dozens, hundreds of deaths, of course, what we saw in israel is shocking, i personally offer my deepest condolences to israel.

to the people of palestine, that is, this is a powder keg, and what can be the way out of it, there can only be one way out, it was voiced by our belarusian mit. and uh yesterday in the kremlin at a meeting between the president of russia and president of turkey, that the parties must sit down and agree, something will not happen that the world community, i am sure, will not allow, and the neighboring countries, that one side will kill the other, or the other will kill this one, no, they must coexist peacefully, and then with at what speed did it flare up, so... this whole tragedy shows what deep, insoluble problems there are in the middle east, and not solvable ones, why are they? because the parties do not allow them, after all, in recent years we have been observing the peaceful existence of israel with

with our neighbors, with lebanon, syria, for the last 10 years, say, with jordan, with egypt, which means we can exist peacefully... probably from this territory, which is called the gas sector, we need to find out what demands they put forward, maybe maybe meet halfway, remove all these contradictions, have a fight, maybe first, then get together again, but this is the same thing that is happening in ukraine, since the parties do not sit down together, they do not agree, but whoever suffers, peaceful people always suffer , and peaceful israelis, who were slaughtered, palestinian civilians, on whom bombs are now raining down, by the way, the entire leadership of one side is in the fortified bunkers of tel aviv, from the other side in the luxurious villas of qatar and lebanon, and ordinary people suffer as usual, that’s what

happened, so there is a way out , the exit clearly outlined the path to this exit for the entire world, the leaders also called for exactly this to sit down at the negotiating table, but i am a realist, and i understand that in the coming weeks, and maybe even months, we will witness inhumanity on both sides, on both parties, as the un has already stated, no matter how much in the vanity many people no longer remember this organization, there is still one, yes there is, present, according to their investigation there are war crimes on one side on the other, what is more worrying here is probably the statement and that rhetoric , which comes from both sides , for example, in israel the minister of defense has already stated that

there will be no military trials against military personnel, strictly speaking, they have the right to take any actions to achieve their assigned tasks. andrey, do you think there will be a way out of... i absolutely i agree with yuri, to answer the questions that arise today, it is necessary to go back to history. let us remember the year forty-five, when the jewish people, persecuted, say, or destroyed by nazi germany, asked for asylum in palestine. and then in the forties, with the assistance of the un, and we know very well that the un is a pocket organization of the united states of america, as it was originally created for this, they gained a foothold in palestine, for what purpose did america do this, why didn’t they turn to germany then or so territories that the germans they gave it to the poles

, why didn’t they make a jewish republic in these german territories in europe, because it was unprofitable for america, they already have something to cling to in europe, they need it. it was to cling to the middle east, to this vanclave of muslim countries, how to break through, under the sauce of democracy, with these warm , affectionate words we do good , the jews have gained a foothold, with the support of the un and with the support of the united states, i will say very rudely, maybe it’s not entirely correct, well, well, the main idea at the moment... well, in many ways we see certain confirmation of these words; in the first minutes of the conflict , american cargo planes filled with weapons immediately took off and

moved towards israel itself. yuri, many are now wondering how this could have happened, because they are publishing a video of that same wall on the adjacent one. which are constantly monitored and military personnel who previously served at these facilities say that a bird literally cannot fly without certain signals being received by our sensors signals, the group did not move there. to survey the territory, everyone is shocked by what is happening , what is the reason, why did they miss the beginning of this invasion, let’s say, indeed, of course, i read, heard , watched, a conspiracy theory, so to say, it was the israeli military that provoked the attack so that they could be unleashed hands, but you see, the price that the israeli people paid, she...... completely rejects this version. most likely there is a combination of factors here, firstly, first

of all, this is an intelligence failure, a complete failure intelligence, they completely controlled the gas territory, with their equipment, listened to all conversations, and representatives of this military paramilitary organization , hamas, which is now recognized by a number of countries as terrorist, uh, they outwitted israeli intelligence, they talked about what among themselves, knowing that they will be listened to, that they are aimed at the world. the second point , of course, was that their eyes and ears, which were stuffed with the border, were disabled along the perimeter of the entire border, were disabled by cheap drones, and they... the israeli side did not there was no protocol for this case; at the same time they simply blinded israel.

the third point is connected with the fact that, indeed, in israel there was gradually at least an attempt at normalization, they issued about 100,000 licenses to gaza representatives, workers, for each of these licenses israel paid hamas, israel transferred money to hamas to the qatari people. well, it’s no secret that israel actually created hamas and supported it, this is also recognized by leading comrades and the head of the military commander of israel, as opposition to fatah. but hamas outplayed it opposition, because, unlike the corrupt fatah, they have a clear ideological position, so the people naturally loved them and chose them in this territory, this liberalization has blinded them a little, so that you understand how it was there in the last few

years , when all these wars ended , the last lebanese war, in my opinion , prisoners in israeli prisons could order food from restaurants, from mcdonald's, palestinian prisoners, they studied at israeli universities, enrolled in absentia, like breivik, that is, some kind of normalization really began there, it relaxed them, so there was such a rapid blitz-cry, well, of course, if we evaluate the actions of hamas, i believe that they made not just a mistake, they took the path these atrocities, if they had fought with the military, attacked a military base, they would have shot there, the world would have treated them differently now, despite all the struggle of the palestinian people for their liberation, the desire

for state independence, and so on, but when they fly in and kill people defenseless, unarmed, yes, of course, we know that in any war, both sides lie, and this is already accompanied by fakes, and that everyone was allegedly beheaded and so on, this did not happen, but what they cut out - this is a fact, and this, of course, is not a tragic mistake, it is a crime, a war crime, which was given a free hand by another war crime, because you cited the words of andrei, the minister of defense of israel, that the servicemen’s hands were given a free hand, we categorically cannot agree with this because responsibility should be individual, not collective, the same people from the palestinian side, what do they have to do with it, that some thugs broke in and stabbed them, look for these... and in general solve, i repeat again, solve this problem in a peaceful way,

after all, the proximity to the same palestinian national autonomy with the state of palestine, which is recognized by 138 countries on the west bank of the jordan river, has shown that it is possible to exist peacefully, well , at least for a while, they exist more or less peacefully, sometimes there are some clashes, when the israeli side provokes. so, but in general, we hoped that there would not be such a hot spot there, well, in fact, it is their boomerang that is returning to the west, here they are, these fault lines, conflicts for the whole world, they are saturating with weapons, they are not sponsoring negotiations, are sponsoring these bloody showdowns, remember who disrupted the russian-ukrainian negotiations in istanbul , when everything was already signed, now it’s all coming back to them, but we don’t say this with gloating, it pains us to see all this, how

one civilized people slaughters another civilized people, it hurts us to see this, but we are a constant fact, the boomerang has returned. one of the most important news regarding this conflict is the confirmation of netanyahu’s words, which he said probably a year ago, that they are recording the appearance of weapons that are sent to the territory of ukraine near its borders, that is, this very thing is supplied to the black market american weapons, perhaps we don’t have such confirmation yet, they were also used during the invasion... andrey, what do you think regarding this matter, how true can this be? i believe that this may be true, because there are already jokes about the corruption of ukraine, that is , officials from the same states, curators say that you can go at least a day without a scandal and corruption,

so this absolutely may be true, but the whole cynicism is that the israelis directly received weapons from the americans, and hamas also received american weapons, but through, let’s say, occult ways, but even then and those american weapons, the situation is, in fact, unfortunately, that as usual, while some are killing each other, others are earning quite good money from this, and the military-industrial complex, the american one, is unfolding, and indeed, many experts state that the economy the united states has reformatted; today the main emphasis is on industrial equipment and the development of the military-industrial complex, that is, we can safely assume that there will be such points of tension in the world to become more and more, because no one intends to curtail such production at once, as it seems to me, what

do the military think about this, and the shares of american industry have gone up along the military line. yes, indeed, the shares of these enterprises that produce weapons have increased at the moment, this also demonstrates that there are orders, there are a lot of orders, and the market predicts that these orders will continue to arrive, which means that in reality there will be these conflicts, unfortunately, becoming more and more, since touched upon ukraine, an interesting moment was with mr. zelsky’s visit to romania, where... he seemed to have met with high-ranking representatives of this state, but the parliament protested and refused to meet, in particular, many members of parliament were quite aggressively critical of zelsky’s visit in general on the territory of romania, yuri, what do you think about this? i would not say that this is the first call, much earlier with such

a call, and i would even say that the position of the polish partners sounded like an alarm bell ukraine. who also refused to meet with him at the un podium, called on him to at least wash his conscience about how they spoke out and remember and not drown someone who helps you, and when later, having performed in canada, zelsky returned through poland to ukraine, some of his volunteers were there met, not a single polish government official met with him, that is, this was already navat for a baht, so what happened in ukraine is a continuation of this bell. it is not interesting to the west, the west needs to move on to other conflicts, ahead is taiwan, the northern korea is there too, don’t forget that it’s in some notebook of the us government leadership,

now israel, so they need to go a little into this one. plus they see that the blitz did not work and the counterattack did not work, they were unable to push through russia, and their think tanks explained that this is impossible, it is impossible to push through russia, yes, it may not launch its counterattack, the russian side may stay in their starting positions, or move a little bit at a time, may not achieve the success we would like them to got it, right? completely ukrainian territory from nazism, but it is impossible to push through the russian side, so they see all this, and, as always, through their eastern european partners. they warm zelsky with a cold shower, we will see this again, they begin to write him off, write him off and force him to negotiate, to negotiate, but since he did not

listen to smart people, including president lukashenko, who says volodya, think, look ahead a few years , he has driven himself into the position that as soon as he says about negotiations, he will be dismembered, his own entourage will suffocate him with a pillow, well... you won’t envy him now. it’s interesting in this sense, fragments of his last interview, where he said that if ukraine ends the war, then i won’t go to the next elections, but supposedly abandoning the country during this period too - there is no such possibility, this is exactly what it ’s about yuri says that there is no such possibility, not because he is all so noble, but simply because he will be eliminated in the first minutes, after he just tries this rhetoric somewhere to flaunt, in the information space, as regards ukraine, there was also an interesting moment, in my opinion, at the beginning of the week, a series of searches took place in the territory where

the hungarian minority lives, they began to openly talk about the fact that this is a direct conflict between zelsky and the ruling elites in territory of ukraine, with people who have serious financial resources, influence, have their own politicians in local councils, andrey, what do you think about this, to what extent, to what, firstly, this conflict can lead, to what extent this escalation has the intra-ukrainian confrontation reached its peak? the fact that in ukraine, things are very bad, maybe you saw this at the beginning of summer , naturally, that the svo, that is, the war in ukraine for ukraine has choked, that is, they do not have enough capacity, nothing...

disabled people who have never they sniffed gunpowder, they don’t understand how it’s not war tactics, they don’t know anything, it’s gotten to the point that now they’re supplying leopards, there’s no one to ride them, it’s no longer a secret that they’re supplying not only that... but together with german personnel officers and there were such cases when the tank captured, shouted, in german, don’t shoot, that is, it is natural that for ukraine and america it is still necessary to unleash another, second and third front, and this attempt was in the summer, remember, in georgia, such a sakashli slipped through, let go, why with one goal, so that he starts a civil war there, so that part of the russian army is pulled there, we know in kazakhstan now not everything is calm, they are going... so let’s say there are questions, and the same nagorno -karabakh, why is all this being unleashed with only one goal, so that pull russia, but nagorny

karabakh is not in the odb, it is not a recognized territory, so here we also managed not to interfere in the conflict, the third thing that counts, we still count, there may also be questions here, i think we’ll even talk about this separately, but the fact that concerns the oligarchs who are now starting to be persecuted in ukraine, with one goal... to pump out money, because there are not enough resources, nothing, and i think this will continue for a long time, but here is an interesting point, i was also on my way to the broadcast, i read that in ukraine they justify economic it is inappropriate to have enterprises in the country that are engaged in partitioning, they want to give them up for privatization so that they can feel competitive in the domestic market, and what does this mean for ukraine, it means people who have lost limbs, during this confrontation they will most likely count on free prosthetics they won’t be able to, everything will be within the framework of the market , as they say, yes, a free hand

will decide everything, which means that prices, given the great demand for these products, will increase significantly, it is interesting, among other things, that in my opinion, in ukraine they are eliminating or planning to eliminate the concept of a disabled person, another category will be introduced, and about the loss of legal capacity, there are several levels, that is, the situation is quite critical, there is no longer any possibility of providing the rear infrastructure for people who are returning from the line of combat contact, and i would even said that the country’s budget is being reformatted to a greater extent not to send weapons, ammunition, and so on to the front, but rather to maintain a more or less stable situation, with these people who found themselves abandoned, offended, and so on. forced to stand begging for money in the passages and such pictures , unfortunately, will become more and more as

soon as this war. will end, we all understand perfectly well that the subsidies that are going on today on the territory of ukraine will collapse, which means that such people asking for help will simply increase in an avalanche-like number, what’s interesting here is this friendship with the poles, which happened, which we see now this honeymoon is, by and large , over, and today there is a certain tension between official warsaw, kiev, this one... the election campaign is entering a certain corner with a revolution , let's say, a meteor shower in poland, polish generals are resigning en masse, that is, if yesterday it was one high-ranking general, then today by morning there are about 11 of them . yuri, what are these processes related to? well, you said correctly, andrey , that ukraine and poland, like now, like komissarenko with

his wife... a model, something like this, a great analogy, yes, there was no joy, love, separation will be without sadness, and poland is busy with another historical event, they themselves call it that, that these elections are comparable to the elections of 809, uh , elections will be held there this weekend, so this star, we already know that, in my opinion, there are about ten generals behind the boss. .. resigned is connected exclusively with the political struggle, that is, look, it’s the most intense, just happening a few days before the final act of the elections, why, because overseas partners are still lobbying, poland’s brussels partners are lobbying, well, yes, we talked before broadcast that they are both pro-american koalas.

pis party, that means the second party of donald tusk, so of course, now the europeans are lobbying with the support of overseas partners, more tusk, for some reason tusk, i don’t know why, maybe he will be more tame, more liberal, maybe they don’t like that peace, after all, defends elements of conservative politics, also in relation to this, and this is a national conservative party, at the same time as the platform of the philistine tusk is liberal to us, that those who are do not make any difference, this is a general fall connected with the fact that they want to emotionally push tusk to power, it seems to me that... and this is

primarily the confederation party, which, according to their polls, seems to occupy about 10%. but at the same time they are already openly saying that if not even if, but peace does not gather a majority in parliament and the government will have to form a coalition with someone, the confederation is called one of the priorities and the same thing, and tusk will not gather , a coalition will be needed. confederation levitsa, and these, that is, relatively speaking, are contenders for third and fourth place they are categorically against supporting the pro-nazi ukrainian regime, categorically, so in this regard it will be interesting for us, and maybe, maybe they will even come out for the normalization of relations with belarus, which we call on them to do, because why should ordinary people, ordinary people

, to our neighbors out of nowhere, the confrontation that... they staged, we want to live, work, trade, communicate, just like an ordinary pole wants this, the situation can really change in a very interesting way, taking into account what portfolios, for example, they will get this small party , which will become part of the coalition, because i was just watching, on monday, there was a debate between polish party representatives, and one of the ladies there said that listen, why are we treating migrants so rudely? to workers, especially, i, for example, was also a labor migrant during my student years, i went to britain to work, and in general we must first of all put ourselves in the place of these people, and let’s accept them more responsibly, at least not kill, but this i already add not to kill myself, probably at the borders, apparently this is what the woman had in mind, but at least to act within the framework of european union legislation, it is clear that in poland

a conservative society is unlikely to be able to... accept a large number of migrants, but to treat like a human being, to change relations in this sense, i think that they could quite easily, what do you think about the warehouse. i think that poland is pulling on itself, you know, such a blanket of the navel of europe, germany and france have given up their positions, with this northern stream 2, they still remember well why they blew it up, they blew it up under the control of the americans, because all of germany’s production is on gas, cheap gas, there’s a lot of gas , the german economy is working, inexpensive, competitive, the euro is growing, if the euro is growing, what happens to dollar, the dollar is falling, america absolutely did not need this, it was they who thus removed germany from the leading position, you also remember, under merkel, it was an example

- when they imposed this position of theirs, buy shale gas from us, so merkel he says, let me build you in germany for german money for euros, i’ll build ports to receive... this gas, there is a mechanism for pumping it from gaseous to liquid, then back, only he says stay away from nord stream 2, so france has been knocked out, you know, now poland takes advantage of the fact that it wants to be such, you know, an indispensable country on the european, let’s say, market, well, not the market, on european territory, so it will do everything in its power, whether kochinsky’s pis party or tusk, they will all have guidelines - that the curators will tell them, for us this does not play a big role, the only thing is that kaczynski is still driven by personal hostility towards russia, he connects

the death of his brother near smolensk, well , i don’t know why he decided that he blames russia for this, then the only difference is that both are for money, but kaczynski still has an outlet. to confront russia, well, andrey raised an interesting topic regarding the nord stream, taking into account the fact that just the other day a similar incident occurred, the pipeline system between finland and estonia was damaged, in finland is already openly declaring that this could not have happened by any technical means, because the pipeline is new, and the pipe could not have simply leaked, let’s say, they are coming up with various versions, but interestingly, they are turning to nato with a request to conduct an investigation , why exactly to the military bloc, yuri?

well, to blame russia again, putin’s russia, this has already become a stream among them, if you noticed, hamas has already been blamed for the attacks, this is due to the absence of some kind of russian component in their vaccine or herbicide somehow, so they will traditionally blame russia for this, so there will be nothing new here, instead of giving an answer to society, please note, society is waiting for an answer, who blew up the northern... streams, although we all know this, we we all know this, it was blown up by the ukrainian special service under the supervision of the americans, yes, all this has already been proven, there are all the yachts for rent, all the names have been identified, but they

are blurting it all out, they still don’t say who did it, well, scholz said it, that this is contrary to our national interests to name those responsible for what happened, it generally goes beyond common sense, when like this, they refer... to a situation that is beyond the scope of national interests, in my opinion, in general, the destruction of the nord stream goes beyond the search for the names of the persons who are involved in it , they all, colleagues, you understand, they all went crazy , nothing else can explain this, the golden age of humanity, a peaceful, relatively century, it is over, half a century, yes, now we are entering an era of regional bloody conflicts, wars. so in this era in this era we we are in the epicenter and imagine what kind of political skill is needed in order not to get drawn into any conflicts, so when some of us here ask questions about

their small salary there, yes, in some industries, well, guys, you must understand that firstly, we were imposed with sanctions, and secondly, what kind of salary can we talk about here? speech, if we are now fighting to defend the right to life, look what is happening, look what is happening, on the right, on the left, in the south, in the north, in the east in the west, that is, we need to withstand, at least, at least, when this generation of political, well, excuse me, infantiles changes, and comes in europe, in america, in other countries, partners, in the same poland, ours, brotherly, normal, decent politicians who will stop all this. it was a broadcast of an information and analytical program called the current microphone, on the air of the belarusian radio and tv channel. 24, with you was the presenter andrei tsych, as well as our guests, political scientist,

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