[000:00:00;00] management of the economy, one of the forms of our work, with a long-term approach, with a strategic approach, with the identification of the largest tasks for the country and for science that we must solve, in fact, without the participation of the academy of sciences, not a single major event in the country and not a single major development, strategies, plans, forecasts, concepts, the academy of sciences is involved everywhere, how far belarusian progress has come for the first time on such a large scale we... will see intellectual belarus at the exhibition, from the first day of its work the event set records for number of visitors, the exhibition’s main asset for me is still the first belarusian laptop, it was very atmospherically interesting, i just found out that military technologies will be presented here, i immediately came here to see what and how we are developing in belarus, it is immediately clear that belarus does not stand still, to show what it is working on and what the country is proud of, for this purpose, all the know-how was collected on

one site, first in the capital, and then a tour of regional centers, the total number of visitors was calculated to be about half a million people, perhaps our science has never sounded so loud before. the exhibition completely overturned the popular understanding of domestic developments. a logical continuation of the exhibition was the science festival. the holiday was held in the capital for the fifth time. in a visual and exciting way, it gave me the opportunity to get acquainted with the future that young people are creating. in their laboratories, everything from medicine, robotics to agriculture and archeology are here. on one platform are those who are just getting acquainted with science and those who have chosen it as a guide in life, these guys for several years now we have been working on a serious problem of modern people, neuralgia. about 10% of the population suffers from severe neuropathic pain. belarusians are ready

to write out their prescription. our medicine, since it is in... it is an endogenous substance, we excrete it from the body , it does not have the same side effects as existing analogues, so to speak, in the future we want to patent it so that people can live a full life life, someone else doubts that belarus is an intellectual country, all this is not only created by hands. this cannot but delight, belarusian science can and should sound louder, it is the support of the state for creating a strong economy, it is also advertising for our country on the world stage, a technological breakthrough and

sovereignty. hello, you are watching the program say don’t

be silent, in the studio victoria popova and tatyana. and today our guest is the truly popular artist valentin gubarev. good afternoon, valentin alex, hello, tatiana and i are in a very difficult situation, because you are an ass. created a whole a universe of characters and images that everyone loves, and i understand that everyone’s favorite pictures are different, that is, we won’t get into tastes here, but at least we’ll try to discuss some part of the iceberg of this, your universe, and tell us how much today did you consider your work at all? not much, i think, i have 700.58 paintings , but you have millions of subscribers, if you count those enthusiastic people on all social networks who write comments to you, we will understand that real art, well, it does not tolerate boundaries, this is true, using the example of your work we can say this, you have already

gotten used to such international recognition that people from all countries write to you, there are some aspects of this fame and fame, so you need to accept them, endure them, for example , how... they not only find out, but let’s say they print on tea mugs , yes, if there are pictures, i think whether i should be happy or not, or i’m on the train, suddenly some couple enters the compartment, a husband and wife, yes, they knock and say: can i take a photo with you, yes, when they left, the neighbor opposite, interested, thinking, who says who you are? i modestly said, i am an astronaut. she will come home and say: i was traveling as an astronaut, that is, there are some echoes of this glory , there is a second life for the picture, let’s say, people respond, they are inspired by poets,

they write poetry, yes, oh god, there are already more of them too, than your paintings of these poems, on your works , and the most interesting thing, we discussed with you before the start of recording, that people are inspired and you allow them to do this, well, in general, without restrictions. well, i don’t limit it yet, yes, i restrict, only i could, if they printed my paintings and sold them, yes, as if they were my own, and without asking permission, but i don’t really like this, there were no such cases, there were several cases, in general, well, the authorities intervened they monitor copyright, yes, but today i can’t take your work and put it on a t-shirt and walk around with it? it seems to me, who will limit me in this? i give you permission already, okay, if let’s say, well, your painting, but with a signature that the author is valentin guborev, then there will be no complaints, but it’s difficult for me to follow, well, they write to me,

valentin, how about you, haven’t you seen something else printed there somewhere , well, how can i keep track, in new zealand or australia, what is he doing, yes, well, that’s how, yes, no way, yes, which, i said about the mugs from armenia. a woman sends me, she even joyfully sends a photo of about 10 mugs: look, my son knows that i love your work, i printed your paintings on them, well , how can i say here, break it, destroy it, or send it to me by cash on delivery, no, it's great that it's still some people act in a civilized manner and send one like this, well, they ask for permission, is it possible there in the design of the city, if so? uh, they use it for books, yes, then i enter into this agreement, sign it, i am paid a fee, if it is a non-commercial secret, how much does your painting cost today and what was the most

expensive? well, you can start, of course, with the ruble, uh, yes, and, but the most expensive limit i had was at an exhibition in dubai, 52,000 euros, this is like a record for me so far, journalists like to call you bregel, but i would already ... sandy called it orkhol, out of love modern society to pop art, of course, of course, you already have the level of popularity you think, well, good comparisons, well, if they want to place your paintings on already tomato soup, this speaks about what, about world recognition, at first i resisted, i thought , well, some kind of pop music, yes, if it comes out, but when i see that this is happening everywhere, it’s normal. art somehow enters into life, into everyday life, but i have come to terms with this too, when you don’t know where to start, start with wikipedia, says modern folk wisdom, and there in particular, they write that valentin gubarev’s works are in private collections in russia, the usa, england, japan, spain,

germany and other countries. have you visited all these countries, or only your paintings travel around the world? i have a contract, for 26 years now, with a french gallery, an exclusive contract, so whether you like it or not, i often have to go to france, yes, there is an exhibition at least every 2 years, you have to be at the opening day. the owners of the gallery see that the vernissage is more successful if the artist himself is present, yes well, there are exotic countries where i wanted to visit, but the distance somehow bothers me, let’s say there is an offer, it’s great to visit the quarry, but the lyceum is far away, so you are not a traveler, but by nature, valentin alekseevich.

i love traveling on youtube, i travel like this every day, but it’s bad that i’m a workaholic, and how sorry i am to waste time on this, if i go fishing, then on the second day i already think about returning quickly and starting a guilt complex, then you twice as active, but write after fishing, no, i’m not forcing it, that’s how it is it turns out, because sometimes on the contrary he will say, well, that’s it, valentin, okay, the day has passed, you’ve done a lot. but in the evening i think, no , something went wrong, in the morning i have to start redoing it and spend the whole day doing it, and this is how it should be done, you have been with this gallery until the sixties, and you have a contract in france, and would

you will already be retired, we are already on vacation, and have you even learned a word at all , what is this gallery called in french? from morning to evening there is a translator and translator nearby, then of course, i’m spoiled by this, i didn’t have to, except for greetings there’s simply no need, in fact, there’s no need, and even once, when... for translation i had to leave somewhere early for 2 hours, we spent it with my gallery owners at the station, got into the car, and oh my god, and we are silent , driving at each other, looking, as if we were just in general, we found ourselves in such an unusual situation, for you in general it seems to me very difficult, can't express it, don't joke, not a word to say, well, yes, i want to communicate with them, these conversations, even if they are, well, slower, because you have to wait until the translation is done,

yes, but still, you see that these are the same people as us, in this in this conversation, i remember just how they humanized the owner of the gallery, yeah, that she was also carried away by our memories of childhood, youth there, well , the success that you have in all these countries suggests that all people are people, everyone our plots are clear, and there is nothing at all, i will sell, chemical examination has established, that this is an original, but i read that your works were at this auction in london, yes , they were exhibited at christie’s, what else did i have, well, i kind of think this is one of my victories after all, that is this is something

fantastic in life. yes, in austria, the gallery owner handed me a catalog from christie, this was happening, on the cover they even chose my work among all, of course, i was proud myself, and that it worked, in general it was expensive there, well, the work sold there for more than usual, but that’s not the point here, that’s not the point, this makes sense, even if it’s free, but it’s worth it, it’s a shame that they accepted this work, and in general, that they sold this work, that they were interested in it, and what kind of work? the work is such a reviewer for me, uh-huh, i remember it, uh-huh, the second one was also sold, so this is important, this very fact, uh-huh, because this is a serious step, putting up for auction, why? because no, not because of the money, because if no one paid attention, can you imagine, then

this... the image of the artist, the authority is reduced, and the gallery owners who exhibited, but of course, now we are reading a lot of revelations from the world of art, yes, the art critics themselves say that, uh, starting with duchamp’s pessoir, yes, all this is a scam and a soap bubble, and we we pay for nothing, strictly speaking, when we trust the tastes of critics, do you agree with these, i agree, because especially now , if earlier art was valued as if objectively, yes, but now everything is done for this, firstly, the artist wants fame quickly, fame will bring money, so why work long? there are a lot of ways, for example, through some kind of stomp, scandal, and to break through, then - the name of the artists is made by dealers, journalists who write about art, and the necessary journalists, so i say, your participation in the auction, it did its job, yes, that is, you have become more expensive,

the bar has risen or what? yes, this , of course, influences, it influences, then the collections , as i already said, let’s say they found out eltonj acquired the work, everyone knows ottenjon’s wonderful collections, they know that experienced art critics work for him, yeah, that means this is an artist, it means something, yes, and indeed, the next day many galleries add zero, cool, well, i thought that this was how it worked, but it just seems to me that the discourse has faded, now time is somehow developing very quickly , yes, once upon a time african spoons were created as a tool in africa, well, just to use them. there, and then picasso goes to africa , enjoys these spoons, masks , a whole cycle is born for him, yes, african, it turns out that the viewer also warms up the market, what do you think, well, no, he is obedient, the audience is leading now, of course, yes, it’s great when

a person develops himself, especially well, contemporary art , conceptual art, how to understand it, in general, how can you force a person, he will come and sebelius and will listen for a long time, he won’t, experienced, but are there any rules on how to teach listening to modern music? no, the only rule is to just listen , as with modern art, look, look more, and you develop yourself and then you will rub your hands, be glad that you have grown so much aesthetically, that you are something you understand this, it’s great, but , of course, art critics and curators help, and develop this taste in people. well, i didn’t expect you to say that the viewer is led, because in your case the viewer still votes with his heart, it seems to me, no? no, but this is great, this is good, yes, but i mean more, about art that is incomprehensible , it’s clear to me, because conceptual

art, it already operates with ideas, so, and my art, what i do, it operates with feelings , right. art, even close a text is posted that needs to be read, because they won’t immediately explain to you what you see, but i hope that there will be a response from the person, some kind of nostalgic memories there, well, in that case, let’s see to my self-portrait, under which millions of women will confidently sign me, how did you, valentin alekseevich, unravel the female soul? cats, giran, what could be better, and curlers, of course, well, i don’t know , some ideas appear, well, first of all, how would i sympathize with women in life, yes, that’s what they are often, even probably most of the characters in my works

are female, uh, especially since i love all my characters, if at the beginning it seems to some viewers that this is... some kind of pressure, this irony, there is some kind of irony, but a good one, i hope that, well, after all, how can i get into this cat, i swear to you, all my life, i have been nurturing giran and the cat, for me there are some symbols, well some kind of homeliness, kindness, uh-huh, some kind of sincerity, and giran, yes, and even the smell of it when you approach it, the cat that purrs next to you, it’s still something like that such signs. such simplicity, sincerity, this woman, this strong woman at the window, an interesting question, i wasn’t prepared for it, this is a violent woman, because in her eyes it’s still a dream, but she

doesn’t, this is not a state of such doom that everything is behind, everything is gone, no, therefore... despite the fact that there is no glamor in my works, and i am running from it, but there is hope for everyone, the dream of this woman, what she dreams about... yours? women's dreams, you want me to reveal this, let's answer this question, come on then let’s look at the next picture, valentin alekseevich, here the woman was and disappeared, she went to work, this one also contains these kind of symbols. in my opinion, this warmth, and these symbols , it is transmitted to the french, and the dutch, and even the american, so it seems to me that... although i don’t invent this on purpose, i don’t do it, i want to portray it, you they have never been reproached in europe for the fact that your women

are mostly undressed, for example, in the paintings and i, that is, no , there are no advantages, you can write, draw, dressed, but imagining her undressed, of course, is understandable, yes, i wouldn’t say that i don’t have an advantage, well... well, well, even if you remember the game of undressing, work, the woman is undressed, and the men are still in clothes, yes, it turns out involuntarily, here, firstly, well, there is no vulgarity, and there is no pornography, it seems to me that this is some kind of piquantness, a woman, i think that it’s beautiful, in any way, no matter how dressed and undressed , it's clear. but for me, it seems to me that there should still be a mystery, so even women on the beach are not a mystery. valentine

alekseevich, why do artists dislike each other so much? well, we know this traditionally, in art in general, and in the ballet world, in the theatre, among artists, in cinema, and i will even say that i have one case, briefly there were two artists from moscow in the workshop, one would be the first highest category, and another, maybe a third, so we were drinking, and the one above, right in front of his colleague, said, oh, valentin , maybe it was a shame to invite him, he talks so much, yes, you see, that’s why i saw that there is rivalry, that’s why it’s just some kind of rivalry, i hope it’s just sporting, but you, like any artist, talk about what a mystery. there is when they are completely not, yes, well, of course, but there should be some kind of cape , at least, of course, at least some kind of tie

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is really high, there will be more provocations, there will be more attempts at terrorist attacks on the territory of belarus, there will be more attempts to destabilize, especially by 2024, by the elections by 20 fifth year, relax in no case is this what is interesting, it is impossible to demonize, we have created such a unique model of our state , which during the turbulence in which the whole world has found itself, we ensure security and peace, and we will destroy fascism and there is no other way. the project is objective. don't miss new episodes on the belarus 24 tv channel. we are pleased to continue to talk about the cities of belarus. the starting point of our route, like most tourists, is the station square. author's routes. it's hard to believe, but once on this earth there were ancient forests. and here was the largest trade route from the vorak to the greeks. same. mysterious places. a unique timepiece in the heart of broadway. initially there were no hands on them; later they appeared, but the clocks

did not show the correct time. interesting myths and legends, they say that here, on the central square, under the asphalt , a unique paving stone has been preserved; it was brought here in soviet times from the krevsky castle. watch in the program of the city of belarus on our tv channel. on the air again, say don’t be silent and today we have an artist as our guest valentin gubarev. valentin alekseevich, your paintings are very bright, you yourself are a very bright, such an ironic person , but you came to us in black clothes, this is mourning for the modern world, which is rolling, but no, somehow it’s been a habit for me for a long time that. i didn’t do it on purpose, well , i somehow got used to it, everything is mostly black and bright, i tried, bought some kind of red

sweater, but it looks provocative. i wouldn’t do something like that, but i think, no, an artist should be modest, highlight what you write, bright, yes, his work should be bright, not his clothes, yes you think so, but today these are warriors of countries, neighbors who flare up one against the other, and this worries you , you know what question interests me here, is it ethical to go into giranei, into cats, at such a moment to write about them? you know, you’ll think about it, and one day, uh, how such a reproach was, it means it was written, to our artist, so wonderful, natalya zaloznaya, this is her answer, i agree with it, she wrote art should unite, so indeed, art should unite, it should still carry some kind of positive emotions, and thereby, as it were

, destroys this negativity that accumulates. yes, there are some contradictions, well, i agree, well, what good will it be if suddenly all the artists fall into this darkness and begin to scratch the wounds of each other and people, the audience, but on the other hand there will be reproaches that you are moving away from reality, yes you will know that of course, there were times when artists suddenly picked up a brush like a bayonet, and a pencil, well, we ’ll remember the windows of growth, right? well, look, if so some gentle, modest artist, painter, who paints, paints landscapes, sunset over pripyat, birch groves, well, let's force him now to become active, as if

he were even a political speaker, so what? it will be nonsense, it will work out anyway, it will all be artificial , he is created differently, this artist, so let him better be honest and healthy, do his job perfectly, the one who is disposed towards such, activists, who wants to podium, it would be better for him, for god's sake, to free the podium for him, do you believe in the healing power of art, for example, in the fact that this painting of yours can bring comfort to someone? i believe, because, firstly, she always has good reviews , people like her, because, as i said, there is also hope in her , yes, this is a boy, i believe, and it seems to me that you believe in artistic truth , yes, because there is a lot of talk now that it does not exist, but what we said in

the first part, that everything is a lie and the market of leaders and so on, the question is also complex, this is no less more complex than we talked about naked women, yeah, uh, just to even say , there still exists, in general, is there a difference between art and entertainment, i think there is, well, for my taste no, because everything it’s a matter of taste, yes, you see how even the two of you already have different opinions, indeed , this is more entertainment or art, this is exactly what your question also relates to, yes, it does, your painting really inspires people and even animation, that’s what i found the video on youtube, let's

take a look. your work, yes, my work, by the way, i haven’t seen this video, it’s myself, well, great , we showed it to you, i like it, it’s not in vain that i came today, there are several of them, and some were sent to me, such craftsmen, as they said, maybe i don’t know what they even do, they offered their videos, so they offered me an exhibition at the trityakov gallery , and i also received it from somewhere... a man sent it from yekaterinburg and said: come on, i’ve been working on your works for a long time, now i’m reviving them, we’ll put them on screen, so i wanted to discuss this with you, you see, people began to miss something in just having a picture hanging in the living room, now we need something to come to life, some kind of animation, something like -it squeaked, rattled, shimmered,

changed from one state to another, what is it? see, for all the same it is valid. to say, for me the narrative components are of course important, for me this is important, it is necessary, as you correctly noted, you can speculate, you can... different stories, apparently depends on the mood of a person, in general, depending on his temperament, yes, suddenly he thinks up my plot and tells it as simply as a movie, indeed, yes, now it’s already turning into a movie, yes, now it ’s turning into a living cartoon, well, if someone wants it this is to revive, well, well, my god, well, modern technologies are coming, but you have regrets about this , that this is what they are missing, that they revive everything, no, no, no, on the contrary, i think, glory god, they somehow noticed, it means

i liked it, this is an immodest work, it’s a wonderful work, you shouldn’t be modest, it’s called cultivating courage, and today we learned that you think about names, here ’s another fresh work, it doesn’t have a name yet, which means that you not only write accurately, but you also know exactly how to give your names a name work. there, since they are so catchy, well, the name is important for me, in order to also give freedom - for the viewer, yes, ah, don’t send him into some kind of my idea that i laid down, let him think of something else, and you try the experiment, tell the story social networks your work, write a new one, come up with a name, no, i don’t want to attract attention like that, no, why? your gallery owners always insist that getting closer is important, valentin, promote yourself. yourself, and this is simply immodest, this is good, someone has some kind of curator who even works with him, but for yourself, look for some kind of artificial paths, no, that is, this is not for you

inherent, no, but what is definitely inherent in you , as we understand, is a reluctance to go, let ’s say, in step with everyone else, and just like you one day spoke about this in the film, joint efforts do not always lead to the desired result, well, really, well, he is the only creator, we immediately imagine the artist as some kind of bearded, unkempt man in some attic, but he writes works, poets, he, he swears when suddenly someone comes in at the wrong time, well, a creative person is still a loner, this is not some kind of collective work, yes, but this is a picture about creativity? it's, no, it's not necessarily about creativity, i thought it was straight forward. no, this is broader, of course, this is not about creativity, it’s broader, because well, creativity is such a narrow activity , yet it’s also an isolated human activity, that’s why

here i am just like an artist, he writes a work, even his loved ones appear, who he loves in the family and come with their advice, but this advice is always difficult to accept, believe me, any director, probably in cinema, and a composer, right? of course, yes, even any, you see, creator who writes, he seems to live by it, suddenly someone says, here’s an old man, this is wrong, here you have to remove something, add something, and often say the phrase i’m an artist, i see it that way, and i’ll never admit it, your religion is also fishing, valentin alekseevich, as we know, but tell me, this is a refuge for henpecked people, fishing, it’s... no, it’s men’s such a passion, absolutely not, especially for me, even i’m not a procurer, this is for me and i’m not going

for fish, and i can give away the fish, if it’s not a trophy one from which you can take pictures, boast, i’ll give it away to other fishermen, i go for the relaxation of this nature, for the clouds that are reflected in the water, for this some kind of men's fraternity, drink moonshine, there is a fireplace crackling, there is a fire, and where on a fishing trip the fireplace is crackling, where i go, yeah , that is, there is some other infrastructure there, no, it's just a house, a village one, well, don't spend the night under a boat , in a car, you still prefer comfort, yes, although , as they say, a real artist must be hungry, you still prefer to create in some and stay in some comfortable conditions. probably yes, because even this, look, subtlety, here i seem to be going to wild lands, some miory region,

yes, wild boars, that means, in some kind of fishing boots, the house is a village , the conditions are like this, yes, that means all the conditions on the street, but i’m still carrying dishes, i want to drink some antique wine from the market, but i can’t there are from... these white ones, because it seems from deer, so as not to wash, yes, take them, but here it’s like mine, my any comfort extends to the dishes, well, this is also from the test. as in some way, no, it ’s natural, because i don’t have to show off in front of someone, that’s right, i’m just my friend, a fisherman, well, i’m his i say, well, old man, why do we need some plastic ones, give us a normal, beautiful table, so that this is a wild area for us, and your men’s club is used to your such habits, so let’s say, is he ready to naturally join you, or they say, listen, put away your antique glasses, give me

a normal glass. i like it that way too, well, you’re not henpecked, no, i’m not henpecked, exactly, do you consider yourself great, no , of course, i’m not henpecked and i’m not great , but what kind, well, only if you say average, we won’t believe it , no, if you touch, regarding art, i think there are a lot of artists, a lot of bad words, but we have a lot here in belarus... beautiful ones, better than me, whom i respect, admire, sometimes sympathize with, like let’s say, well, there’s no market, let’s say, sumarev katerina, a wonderful artist, that’s all, and when i see that she has her post there, that it’s my birthday, i’ll be glad that someone will buy my work, this is a little, it still hurts me, it makes me sad, yes, that these are artists, it’s like in our world, although... it wasn’t

the youth exhibition that struck me and i was pleased, you saw 80% of women's names, 8%, you saw and the curators are all women, and i think, wow, but the world practice is the opposite, for example, in the market, especially in the secondary market, where the value is shown, well, this auctions , today there are only three artists, yes, they have crossed this psychological threshold of 1 million dollars, only three, and why is it so difficult for women to make their way in this world? and you know , they’re trying to somehow explain this, it’s strange, here we have an exhibition of 80% youth artists, and beautiful, talented, young people, that’s right, the market shows, as it were, you know, how

the last time is explained, what? that in the world of fine art there are a lot of female artists, but the buyers are supposedly mostly men and so they show their kind of this male ego, you know, they choose men, it seems like this is some kind of not very clear definition, but so far it is the only one, this explanation, well, 2 years ago you had a personal exhibition at the national art museum, we had a former director visiting, about koptsov and he said that not all artists modern ones, of course, receive such an honor, but for you it was an event, really an event? it was an event, why? firstly, as they say, the great one, i wouldn’t have dared to go and ask to exhibit, but i was already kind of pleased, really, inside, that prokoptsov himself called me three times, right? and offered this

exhibition, but why three, you refused the first two? well, i have a contract with france, work, i always have to fulfill the contract and send it to the gallery, i just didn’t have the number of paintings, and when here he’s still the third once i said, i think that’s it, we need to collect them , we need to accumulate them, and i also wrote about my gallery, that for now i’m kind of stopping it in order to make an exhibition here, but i still had to take 2/3 from the collector. what was at the exhibition, you say, a contract, a job, is it really true that for an artist painting a picture is just work from 9 to 6, from monday to friday, i have to paint a picture, well, no, of course, i don’t think so, that many people have this, because there is a word inspiration, and so many artists, when i ask, they say, i don’t worked, no inspiration, yes, i

don’t have that, why? because ideas appear for some reason they are ahead of my physical capabilities and working on it, here i am at malbert ’s, but i’m already dreaming of the next one, which is my idea, i live with it, i walk around with it, and this is inspiration, this is like for a fire inspiration, these are coals, these are these new ideas, which are new plots , which will turn out to be a wonderful work, good, for me, i mean wonderful, because... the public will not accept it, but still, thank god, i i work irresponsibly, i don’t think, which means i don’t about money, not about recognition, not about print, just for fun. that's my thing, but is working for pleasure irresponsible? it’s irresponsible when you don’t think about any benefits for your work. valentin alekseevich remembers the difficult times when he worked in a publishing house before becoming a famous artist, and how he went to

work from 9 to 6. tanya, what you are asking about, it was very difficult for him to explain to his mother-in-law why he stopped doing this, and how he broke free and became a free artist. but this is still a lucky ticket contract with galleries, but as far as i understand, no, well, i would wish everyone a contract with galleries, why? because some say, isn’t this bondage valentin , but my god, god bless every artist of bondage, because what is it , you get up like a bird, just work for your own pleasure, and the gallery, if it already pins its hopes on you, it deals with your image, but you have a creative plan , 12 paintings in a year, no, i still have... a contract, how much i owe, yes, i have never let you down in my life, you know, i have been for a long time for a while i didn’t think at all that you were a belarusian artist, you don’t have this, you know, this, well, this note that everything is bad, there’s nothing, that is, somehow this contract

lifted you up, of course, this there was a lucky ticket, over all the local problems, you know , that exist, well, in this cauldron, in this artistic world, well, this may be true, i remember the same thing, here is our wonderful artist, here is tovsik, volodin, folk the artist says how good valentin is that you are independent, so he said, it’s true that this is also important, look, in new york in new york alone, there are 30 times more artists than artists in the entire post-soviet space, including georgia, the baltic states, moldova, you can imagine how you need to survive, that’s me. they consider only artists with american passports, not those with belarusian ones, but others, and everyone wants to live for their work, not work somewhere, and everywhere, all over the world, in europe, only the one who

earns money is considered an artist in the public consciousness , and can hold a family, create a normal quality of life, thanks to their labor, in england 2500 graduates a year from the faculty of art are artists, but only 2.5% or up to 5% realize themselves, you see, it’s quite difficult, after all it’s difficult to become an artist, but it’s easy to learn, but then to exist as an artist, so this is work, this is a task with an asterisk, they force themselves to work. well, you have to work, maybe , i don’t know, as couriers, security guards, somewhere in a supermarket, yes, but or in publishing houses, like you, too, many are making their way, well, i mean, illustrators, of course, well, of course , but it’s great that it would be, but the fact is

that now illustrators will be replaced by artificial intelligence, and this is another big topic, and now we won’t be long let's take a break, after a short pause we will return to this studio again, sign for now. channel, say don’t be silent, look for all our episodes on youtube channel belarus 1. i know your tradition of writing at least a few lines in your diary, but every day, what will you write based on the results of our meeting today with you? yes, i’ll write that i wasn’t very worried, on the air again say don’t be silent , the people’s favorite artist valentin

guborev is our guest. again, based on your paintings, kazan tyus recently staged a play, a winter fairy tale for adults. let's see a small announcement. well, the idea is on the surface, we have already touched on this, so let’s conduct such an experiment, take some of your latest paintings. let’s try to put them together one after another and you can hear a clear story behind them: here’s

a woman going somewhere, yes, what do you think? where is valentin alekseevich? it seems to me that she is constantly driving, because i wanted just in this plot, the name is slow life, it personifies this slow life, this is the monotony of the fence, which is not known at all where it began and where it ends, and you see the dog is no longer ...' even pays attention, because for her it’s a routine, a constant picture, it’s like a film, remember, it’s famous, yes, it was called american, that’s why it seems like a frozen picture, although there seems to be movement here, but it’s so slow life, stringiness such a slow life, but i’m not doing this from a negative point of view, when i approached, yes , this is my favorite house in my yard , there is exactly the same one nearby, sitting on the balcony - a tang cat, this is not

some kind of negative connotation at all, maybe this is our favorite life, that’s exactly when, yes, it seems like nothing is happening, but nothing bad is happening, yes, now this should also be, the usual thing that happens in life, but dear, kind things happen, a measured rhythm to which everyone is accustomed, well, let's imagine that this woman comes home let's call her a stranger, and pay attention to your next new work, which is called that, a stranger, well, almost kramskoy, i would say, well, i wanted these quotes, allusions, of course, to play with this serenity of this stranger kromsky, the serenity of our stranger, and of course, what can she dream of, besides the maldives, well, for her these dachas are also like the maldives, she finds pleasure in it, well, after drinking a cocktail she falls into something... ecstasy goes into the living room and, uh, plays chopin,

or what is your favorite composite, shapen, well let's see how this happens, you see how good she is, how easy it is to freely, just understand correctly, we talked so much about naked women that it would be wrong not to show them in your performance, probably, valentin alekseevich, well, this is our story it turned out to be a short one, about a stranger, and it seems to me that, well, that’s how it is. do you now live more often in minsk or alekhnovichi? no, well, of course, i live in minsk, but alekhnovich, of course, left a huge mark on my life, many stories appeared, and in general a wonderful life, here on the farm, i, a city dweller, as if a purely person, like it and... you see, in all my works there is a province, so i think that

in my previous life i definitely lived somewhere in a provincial town, i like how you once it was formulated that you like houses to be lower than the trees, but now i’m thinking, you have another famous work, how beautiful this world is, a picture that i observe every day from the twelfth floor, i understand that of course you are right, houses should be lower than the trees for... slow life that slow life that we all dream of now, but it’s amazing that this is how beautiful this world is, but it seemed, you see, it’s clear, our everything, well, it’s strange, here she should, here she will go to luxembourg through here a week, he’s about to leave, that is, how did they get into it, yes, we are all inhabitants of the concrete jungle who dream of such houses, yes, because anyway it is said there ironically, but you in yes, i don’t want to, well, under no circumstances,

for what? what is this, what are you talking about? is there really somewhere a person who has at least achieved something? although i don’t know what is there, i can achieve, nothing, and come, put on airs, there is something there, but no, of course, but what kind of house do you have, it’s huge, no, this is not your house, this is a house, it doesn’t matter , as it were, parents, wife, there, her ancestors. this is a hooter, that's it, a family home, i ended up there, somehow there is a word that, primaki, and you are russian, well, yes, i was born in russia, then at the institute in moscow, once studied, and despite to the fact that i was invited to do a lot of work in moscow, and people

seemed to be striving for this, but they were surprised that i with pleasure, because i even practiced while studying, i was born in nizhny novorod, belarus, that is , they generally tied it all together, you recently admitted how you printed your picture for yourself, you printed it so well that after some time sold it and passed it off as a real estate, why did you pull off such a fraud, you really needed the money, no , of course i am, it’s not a fraud, it’s just something i was convinced of myself, during the time that i had it, maybe... a year one and a half, that this is an original, because my painting is still smooth, because there are, you know, post-pose paintings, you can itch, mine is smooth , yes, so i can easily send works rolled into a tube, and i used to think that this work was original, and when a person liked it, he wanted

buy, in fact, i kind of appreciated it as a real work, after it was hanging on him , even more... maybe three years passed, and when he discovered that it was not the original after all, my god, i’m almost ashamed of failing through the ground, well, of course, i returned to him all these expenses that he incurred, but it turns out that we let's talk about the school topic, but this neural networks, artificial intelligence, copies in the modern world, what do you think as an artist, well, as a person and as an artist, i really am not yet... am i a substitute or not? i wouldn’t want a woman to wake up in the morning and only in the morning discover that it’s artificial, but after what happened between us, especially so in art, when suddenly i discover works and myself wonder whether this is my work or not, or as

i know, the composer interrupted the writing of his symphony, but did not notice, did not note where he was interrupted, the next morning he... and the artificial intelligence completed it, and he couldn’t figure out where he finished, in what place, and you couldn’t figure out whether it was a copy or an original, that’s what’s being done, yes, that’s why this is what worries me, i think that , uh, of course, we need to sort out all the legal issues, in order to know whether it’s a fake or not , whether it’s worth it or not, because there is a danger. that the work of real creators will turn into a hobby, so valentin alekseevich, if you yourself cannot distinguish, the composer cannot distinguish where he wrote, where is the neural network, what to do, how to distinguish, how to set a framework for and these should be laws stating that a work created by skillful, artificial

intelligence must immediately be designated, that is, as we see in grocery stores, a product with a substitute: milk fat , it is written, yes, yes, they also deceive, not everything is written there, this must be done, and also skillful meat, with some signs, this is what to punish, if for deception, you know, your analogy with products brought me to an interesting the thought reassured me that the artists were real after all will be appreciated, it seems to me, you know, as now there is such an era of craft products, yes, craft drinks, and craft drinks. the time will also come for artists when they want someone to paint it right in your presence, you will be rented, you know how it will be some kind of new art experiment, so that the artist will paint a picture in your presence, okay, but how can it be valued if another will say, well, why, look, i pressed a couple of buttons there and the same thing came up, well

, there’s no work, but there’s no soul, there’s no soul, yes, and the soul, is there some kind of instrument to measure it? there is, there is, your creativity, look, there is some kind of thermometer, there is this enlightenment, there is a soul, but there’s something in it, well, you see, let’s say, we value handmade furniture much more than factory, ordinary printed ones, when it comes from the assembly line, because it’s manual , exclusive, i couldn’t figure it out myself, and if it’s also difficult to figure it out, where there’s no indication, well, that’s interesting, we’ll watch. you have such a famous work, an opener, when the opener flies universe, well, too, i hope that real creators will not disappear, yes, but you look, let’s say, hollywood is worried, yes, the scriptwriters’ workshop, the actors’ workshop, and in general it really seemed that this used to apply

to cashiers, because they will be replaced, but it turned out later that we could all be replaced very easily, here’s valentin alekseevich, what an interesting topic we came up with, but unfortunately, the broadcast time of our program was also up, we are very grateful to you for today’s meeting, and if you exhibit where you planned, write, you'll come up with titles for new works, come again, we are always... very glad to see you and let's hope that real artists, like real journalists, will not die out as a class, tatyana sherbina, victoria popova, we say goodbye to you for today, see you goodbye, goodbye, and now valentin guborev speaks. well, i would like to wish all people to be closer to art, that is, do not forget to read books, go to plays, listen to music, go to exhibitions - this ennobles the soul, kindness, play with children, go. so what is it my wishes to everyone, no matter how much we ran from the artificial intelligence valentin alekseevich, he burst into our lives in our

studio, based on the logo he drew such a charm, where guests, especially our dear ones, leave autographs , please leave some wish and you are yours, okay. in the new world, cultural gifts will flourish and we will remember folk traditions. in the traditions

of belarus, the bread was never cut with pressure, the bread was rammed, the bread was lamali, the soul of the belarusian people, the rubyazhevichs in the sunny days want to produce traditionally lekaź z zelak. and so we return to the histaric past. vos geta pabudova, yana prysvechanaya. to the punishment of mindaug, the first caravan to the punishment to whom our present land belarus appeared. after all, the nation self-consciously begins to recognize its own carnies. the geta is so outstanding that on the next month you can swim for an hour. there was spachatku garadzishcha, then zamak, and then zeinichaya tsarkva. our country, belarus, was once famous for such noble people, and there the greatness of our country developed. watch on tv channel