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[000:00:00;00] this is being done on a systematic basis within the framework of a signed cooperation agreement, now this year the agreement of the twenty-twenty-third year ended and our factories have already signed a new agreement for the twenty, twenty-fourth, twenty-fifth year, which also provides for the development of new types of products and an increase volumes, so every year we grow somewhere between 10-15% in supply volumes. in general, during the three-day visit of the belarusian delegation , contracts worth more than $56 million were signed. protection of rights of legitimate interests compatriots, as well as mechanisms for providing them with assistance in returning to their historical homeland, were discussed at parliamentary hearings of the union state. at the moment, according to various estimates, about 3 million people from belarus and about 30 million from russia live abroad. at the same time, in the current geopolitical conditions they found themselves under unprecedented pressure from their
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authorities. and aggressive propaganda, the policy of the union state, the outlined guidelines require the development of joint solutions to this problem, among the voiced tools initiative card of compatriots of the union state, a similar idea is being discussed in russia today; the implementation of the project could allow the use of expanded rights, including working on a general basis. similar mechanisms exist and operate in other countries; other instruments include preferences for those returning to their homeland. reports, discussions. and exchange of experience, about 300 of the best surgeons from belarus and foreign countries gathered in mogilev, within the framework of the scientific and practical conference, experts discussed problematic issues in various areas of surgery and ways to solve them, new diagnostic and treatment techniques, issues of professional training. now high technologies, minimally invasive techniques are being introduced, the achievements of belarusian transplantologists, oncologists, traumatologists, cardiac surgeons and others are known throughout the world. everything that is being done in the immediate environment
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since the president sent congratulations to the team. today nan is the foundation of knowledge and innovation. belarusian scientists have created a number of world-class scientific fields and schools, which have enabled the country to create its own highly developed industry, agriculture, medicine, space nuclear industry. the head of state expressed confidence that thanks to the research and advanced developments of our specialists, belarus will henceforth develop as a high-tech, socially
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oriented state. in general, it’s surprising, but this is in the 20th century, but instead of the whole world exploring new planets, evolving correctly, developing technologies, we are again forced to deal with this social monstrosity called fascism, we all see how the situation is developing on our southern borders, on our western borders. the level of terrorist danger is really high, there will be more provocations, there will be more attempts at terrorist attacks on the territory of belarus, there will be more attempts to destabilize, especially by 24, by the elections by 25, relaxing in no case is not what is interesting, it is impossible to demonize, we have created such a unique model of our state, which in the course of turbulence in which the whole world has found itself, we ensure security and peace, and we will destroy fascism and there is no other way. the project
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is objective. don’t miss new episodes on the belarus tv channel 244 adventure of foreigners in belarus good afternoon, hello, my name is sergei, sergei, maria, oh, very nice and ekaterina, he’s still so heavy, yes, he’s heavy, he’s over 5 kg, they look alike like a mushroom, like a mushroom, yes, that is, these are these mushrooms that are overgrown, you see, there are yellow ones, even some white ones, it looks like a spider’s web, a guy from ecuador, he’s lived here for 8 years, he walks around our villages. an aspiring microbiologist came to minsk to master his profession. as fate would have it, i extended my business trip. i didn't expect it to be so cool. and he happily talks about the most picturesque places in the country where the cozadiza fled. this is very clear, the molyak process itself, it is necessary to remove coals from each one so as not to
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contaminate the milk, even there. rogot said that she was pleased, eat, watch, in the travel project white dew, on the belarus tv channel: 24, hello, you are watching the program, say don’t be silent, victoria popova and tatyana sherbina are in the studio. and today our guest is a truly national artist, valentin gubarev. good afternoon, valentin. hello, tatyana and i are in a very difficult situation, because over your years in art you have created a whole universe of characters and images that everyone loves, and i understand that, uh, everyone’s most favorite paintings are different, that is, we
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won’t get into taste here , but at least we will try to discuss some part of yes, the iceberg of this, your universe, and tell me, how many jobs did you count today? a little, i think. i have 70,058 paintings, but you have millions of subscribers, if you count in all social networks , those enthusiastic people who write comments to you, we will understand that real art, well, it does not tolerate borders, it’s true, using the example of your creativity we can this is to say, you have already gotten used to such international recognition that people from all countries write to you, there are some aspects of... fame and fame, they must be accepted, tolerated, well, for example, how they not only find out, but let’s say they print on - tea mugs, yes, if there are pictures, i think whether i should be happy or not,
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or i’m on the train, suddenly some couple enters the compartment, a husband and wife, and they knock , he says, can i take a photo with you, yes, when they left, the neighbor across the street... got interested, thinks, who says who you are? i modestly said, i am an astronaut. comes home and says, i was traveling as an astronaut, that is , there are some echoes of this glory, there is a second life for the painting, let’s say, people respond, they are inspired by poets, they write poems, yes, oh god, there are already more of them than your paintings, these poems for your works, and the most interesting thing, we discussed with you. before the recording begins, that people are inspired and you allow them to do this, well, in general , you don’t limit them, but do you have rights?
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well, i’m not limiting it yet, yes, i’m limiting it, only i could if they printed my paintings and sold them, yes, as if they were their own, without asking permission, but i don’t really like it , there were no such cases, there were several cases where they interfered with in general, well, organs that... and i can’t take your work today and put it on a t-shirt and walk around with it, unless, it seems to me, who will limit me in this, i allow you already, well, if let’s say, well, your painting, but with a signature that this is the author valentin gubarev, then that’s it, there won’t be any complaints, but it’s hard for me to follow, they write to me, valentin, how are you, didn’t you see something else published there somewhere, well , how can i keep track, in new zealand or australia? that’s the point, yes, well, that’s how, yes, no way, yes, which, i said about the mugs from armenia, a woman sends me, and she even joyfully sends a photo of about 10 mugs, look, my son knows that i love your creativity, i printed your
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paintings on them, well, how can i say here, break it, destroy it, or send it to me by cash on delivery, no, it’s great that after all, some people act in a civilized manner and send one like this, well, they ask for permission, is it possible there in the design of the city , if they use it for books, yes, then i enter into this agreement, sign it, they pay me a fee, if it is not a trade secret, how much does it cost today your picture and which one was the best? expensive? well, you can start, of course, with the ruble, and well, the most expensive one i had was at an exhibition in dubai, 50. euro, this is like a record for me so far. journalists like to call you bregel, but i would already call you andy orhol , out of modern society’s love for pop art, of course, of course, you already have the level of popularity you
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think, well, good comparisons, well, if they want your paintings on already tomato soup post, this is what it says about world recognition, at first i resisted that some... if it comes out, but when i see that this happens everywhere, it’s normal that art somehow enters into life, into everyday life, but i have come to terms with this too, when you don’t know where to start, start with wikipedia, says modern folk wisdom, and there, in particular, they write that valentin’s works gubarev are in private collections in russia , the usa, england, japan, spain, germany and other countries, have you visited all these countries or are only your paintings traveling around the world, i have had a contract for 26 years now, with a french gallery, an exclusive contract, and so you want don’t want to, i often have to go to
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france, yes. there is an exhibition at least every 2 years, you have to be at the vernissage, the owners of the gallery see that the vernissage is more successful if the artist himself is present, yes, but there are exotic countries where i would like to visit, but the distance somehow bothers me, let’s say , there is an offer in siul, it’s great to visit karya, but the children are far away, so you are not a traveler, but by nature, valentin alekseevich, i love to travel on youtube, i travel every day, yes, but it’s bad that i’m a mining addict, and how sorry i am to waste time on this, if i go fishing, then on the second day i’m already thinking about quickly returning and starting the guilt complex, then you’re twice as active, yes, you write after fishing, no, i’m not forcing it, no.
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it turns out, because sometimes they will say on the contrary, well, everything, valentin, good, the day has passed, you have done a lot, but in the evening i think , no, something went wrong, in the morning i have to start redoing it and spend the whole day doing it, and this is how you have to do it, you are with this gallery until the sixtieth year, yes with you have a contract in france, and it happens once every two years, you will already be retired, we are already yes, but have you even learned a word of how this gallery is in... do you know how to babble in french? the gallery is called galiria bartias after the surname of the owners, yes, which is located in paris, lyon santatier and vichy. if i had been thrown out alone in france, i would have had to flounder, learn some words, but since all these years, from morning to evening , there has been a translator and translator nearby, then of course i was spoiled by this, i didn’t have to, in
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in general, there is no need, strictly speaking, there is no need, and once, when the translators had to leave somewhere early , for 2 hours, we accompanied her with my gallery owners to the station, got into the car, and oh my god, and we are silent, we're looking at each other, looking as if we were just in general, we found ourselves in such an unusual situation , for you in general it seems to me very difficult, not being able to express it there... well, yes, i want to communicate with him, these conversations, let they are, well , twice as slow, because you have to wait until the translation is done, yes, but still, here you see that these are the same people as us, in this conversation, i remember just how they humanized the owner of the galley, yeah, that she was also carried away by our memories of childhood, youth there, and then the success that you have
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in all countries it says that all people, people, everyone understands our stories and there is nothing to be surprised at all, i was surprised by something else: when friends give paintings, i always jokingly ask them to write something such a certificate, so that later, when at christie’s i will sell chemical examination established, that this is an original, but i read that your works were at this auction in london, yes , they were exhibited at christie’s, what else did i have, well, i kind of think this is... well, one of my such victories after all , that is, this is fantastic during my life, in austria, the gallery owner handed over a catalog to christie, this is happening, they even chose my work among all the covers, of course, i was proud of myself and that it works, in general it was expensive there, well, the work sold more expensive there than usual, but that’s not the point here, that’s not the point, here’s the point, let it be without... free, but on the crista be, on crista, that
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they accepted this work, and in general, that they sold this work, that they were interested in it, and what kind of work, work - this is my kind of observer , uh-huh, i remember, uh-huh, the second one was also sold, so this is important , this very fact, because this is a serious step, putting it up at auction, why? not because i paid attention, imagine, then this is the image of money, because if no one is an artist, the authority decreases, and the gallerists who exhibited, well, how well...' i read a lot of revelations from the art world, yes, the art critics themselves say that, uh, starting with duchamp's pessoir, yes, all this is a scam and a soap bubble, and we pay for nothing, in fact, when we trust the taste of critics, you agree with uh, i agree, because especially now, if
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earlier art was valued as if objectively, yes, but now everything is done for the purpose of, firstly, the artist wants quick... fame, fame will bring money , so why work for a long time, there are a lot of ways, for example, through some kind of publicity, a scandal, and to break through, then the name of the artists is made by dealers, journalists who write about art, and the necessary journalists, so i say, your participation in the auction, it did its job, yes, that is, you became more expensive, the bar has been raised or what? yes, of course? influences, it influences, then the collections, as i already said, let’s say they found out elton john bought the work, everyone knows about the wonderful collections, he knows that experienced art critics work for him, yeah, that means this
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artist means something, yes, and indeed, the next day many people add zero to the gallery, cool, well, i thought that this is how it works, but it just seems to me that the discourse has faded, now time is somehow developing very quickly, yes, once upon a time it was african... spoons were created as a tool in africa, well, just to use them, they are there, and then picaso goes to africa , enjoys these spoons, masks, he degenerates a whole cycle, yes, african, it turns out that the viewer heats up the market, too, what do you think, well no, he’s obedient, the audience now leads, of course, yes, it ’s great when a person develops himself, especially modern art, conceptual art. how to understand him, in general how can you force a person, he will come and sebelius and will listen for a long time, he will not be inexperienced, and if there are any rules, how to teach him to listen to modern music, no, the only rule is to just listen, as with modern art , watch, watch more, and you develop yourself and
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then you will rub your hands, rejoice that you have grown so much aesthetically, that you are something you know, this is great, but it helps... of course art critics and curators help and develop this taste in people, well , i didn’t expect you to say that the viewer is being led, because in your case the viewer still votes with his heart, it seems to me, no, no, but this is great, this is good, yes, but i mean more, about art that is not clear, here it is clear to me, because conceptual art, it already operates with ideas, right? and my art, what i do, it operates with feelings, that’s right, it’s not for nothing that the idea for an art exhibition is even hung nearby a text that needs to be read, because they will immediately explain to you what you will see, but i hope that there will be a response from
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a person, some kind of nostalgic memories there, well, in that case, let's look at mine a self-portrait that millions of women will sign, how did you, valentin alekseevich, unravel the female soul? cats, giran, what could be better, and of course curlers, well, i don’t know , some ideas appear, well, first of all, how would i sympathize with women in life, but that’s what they are often my characters, even the majority , are female in my works, so... that i love all my characters, if at the beginning it seems to some viewers that this is some kind of pressure, this is irony, this is some kind of irony there is, but kind, i hope that, well, after all, how can i get into this code, i swear to you, all my life, i have been nurturing a giran and a cat, for me
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there are some symbols, well, some kind of homeliness, kindness, uh-huh, some kind of sincerity, and giran, yes, and even the smell of it when you touch it, right? and the cat purring nearby is still some signs like this, such simplicity, sincerity, this woman, this strong woman at the window, an interesting question , but i was not prepared for it, here is a violent woman, because in her eyes there is still a dream, she has no, this is not... no, so despite the fact that there is no glamor in my works, and i run from it, but there is hope for everyone, the dream of this woman, what does she dream about, in your opinion, oh, women's dreams, you want me to reveal this, let's
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answer this question, well, then let's look at the next picture, valentin alekseevich, there was a woman and she disappeared, she must have gone to work, there is surely someone waiting for her, in this too there are these symbols, in my opinion, this warmth, and these symbols, it is transmitted to... the dutchman , yes, to an american, it seems to me that, although i don’t invent this on purpose, i don’t do it, i want to depict it, you have never been reproached in europe, for example, for the fact that your women are mostly undressed, for example, in paintings , well, i, that is, no, advantages, no, you can dress, write, draw, but
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imagine her. i don’t have it, well, how, how well, even if you remember there is a game of stripping, work, a woman is undressed, and the men are still in clothes , yes, it turns out involuntarily, here, first of all, there is no vulgarity, and there is no pornography, it seems to me that this is some kind of piquancy - such a woman... i think it’s beautiful, no matter how dressed or undressed, it’s clear, but for me, it seems to me, there should still be a mystery, so even women on the beach are not a mystery, valentin alekseevich, why do artists dislike each other so much, well , we know this traditionally, in art in general, yes and the ballet world in the theater, among artists, cinema, and i will even say that i... one case, briefly, was, there were two artists from moscow, in a workshop, one was, as it were, the first
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of the highest category, and the other, maybe the third one, we were drinking, and the one above, right in front of his colleague, said, oh, valentin, maybe it was a shame to invite him, he talks so much, yes, you see, that’s why i saw that there’s a rivalry, so it’s just some kind of rivalry this, i hope it’s just sports, well, you’re like any artist, you argue that there is a mystery when it’s not completely, yes, well, of course, but there should be some kind of cape, at least, of course, at least some kind of tie around the neck to awaken the imagination, yes, absolutely, let’s pause for in this juicy moment, i remind you that we have a telegram channel, say don’t be silent, subscribe, ask questions and
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suggest guests, we are connected. i don’t feel like i’m at the same level as before, because for me the museum is like a monastery, so i’ll take care of what’s most important to me. something different in my opinion. my childhood was spent in sailing, which grew into my youth, and now it turns out that i have been here for half a century in my favorite sport, we are ready to share knowledge, my name is sergei morozov, i am the senior coach of the national sailing team, now the athletes are following along the course is called
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to show one day in your life, a popular show about young heroes of our time. the echoes of grandiose battles still echo across the arena, but soon she will see new feats. it's time for the big game. participants engage in fire and rescue sports, victory over difficulties and their way of life. eight teams, four countries, and four elements. now teams from belarus, uzbekistan and slovakia will fight for the title of winners . to win it, you need to pass four
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elemental tests, these are water, air, earth, fire. participants are welcome. new tests and new emotions, at the first stage i have timur , for him any weight is on his shoulder, he is in the fire, great, jack has already started to cut a passage for you into the tunnel, well done, well done, well done, the best, watch the project heroes on our tv channel, on the air again say don’t be silent, today our guest is the artist valentin gubarev. valentin alekseevich, your paintings are very bright, you yourself are very bright , such an ironic person, but you came to us in black clothes, this is mourning for the modern world, which is rolling, but no, somehow for a long time it has been so customary for me that i - not on purpose, but somehow i got used to it, everything is mostly
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black and bright, i tried, bought some kind of red sweater. but i look defiant i wouldn’t take one like that, but i think, no, an artist should be modest, write, highlight, his work should be bright, bright , not his clothes, you think so, yes, well, today’s warriors of countries, neighbors who flare up with each other, this worries you, you know what question interests me here, is it ethical to go into giranya, into cats? yes, you know , you’ll think about it, and one day, that’s how such a reproach was written, that means it was written, to our artist, such wonderful, natalya zaloznaya, that’s her answer, i’m with him i agree, she wrote, art should unite, art should really unite, it should still carry
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some kind of positive emotions, yes, thereby, as it were, destroys this... negativity that accumulates, and some contradictions, well, i agree, well, what good will it be if suddenly all the artists fall and in this blackness they begin to scratch the wounds of each other and people, look, but on the other hand there will be reproaches that you are moving away from reality, you will be, you know that of course, there were times when suddenly artists they picked up, as it were, a brush like a bayonet, and a pencil, well, we remember the windows of growth , yes, they participated, the great patriotic war, many posters appeared there, but just music, films were like that, but, well, look, if that’s what- then a gentle, modest artist, painter, who paints, paints landscapes, sunset over pripyat, birch groves, well, let's force him now
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to become active, as if even a political...' ruper, so what happens, it will be nonsense, it will work out anyway, it will all be artificial, he he this artist was created differently, so let him better be honest and healthy , do his job well, the one who is disposed to such an activist, yes, who wants to go to the podium, he’d better succeed, for god’s sake, free up the podium for him, and do you believe in the healing power of art, for example, in the fact that this painting of yours can bring comfort to someone? i believe because, firstly, she always has good reviews , people like her, because as i said, there is also hope in her, yes, i believe in this boy, and it seems to me that you believe in artistic truth, yes, because there is a lot of talk now that it does not
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exist, yes, that’s what we said in the first part, that everything is a lie and the market. well, this question is also complicated, it’s no less complicated than we talked about naked women , yeah, but just to even say, it still exists, is there a difference between art and entertainment in general, i think there is, well , my taste is not, because everything is a matter of taste, you even see how even the two of you already have different opinions, indeed, this is more entertainment or art. same the question seems to be relevant, your painting really inspires people and even animation, here’s a video i found on youtube,
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let’s take a look. your work, yes, my work, by the way, i haven’t seen this video, it’s myself, well, great, we showed it to you, i like it, it’s not for nothing that i came today. there are several of them and some were sent to me by such craftsmen, as they were to say, maybe i don’t know what they even do, they offered their videos, so they offered me an exhibition at the trichakovskaya gallery , and i also received it, from somewhere almost there, a man sent from yekaterinburg and said: let’s say, i’ve been working on your works for a long time, now i’m reviving them, putting them on the screen, so... to discuss this with you, you see, people began to miss something in just hanging a picture in the living room, now we need something to come to life , some kind of animation, yes, something somehow squeaked, rattled,
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shimmered, passed from one state to another, what is it? you see, for all this it ’s really a story, for me the narrative components are of course important, for me it’s important, necessary, so, as you correctly noted, you can speculate. you can come up with some kind of story, and i like it, you have to hear completely different stories, apparently it depends on the person’s mood, in general on his temperament, yes, suddenly he invents my plot and tells it, just like a movie, really, yes, now turns into a movie, yes, this is already turning into such a living cartoon, well, if someone wants to revive it, well, my god, well... but you have regret about this, what can they do what’s missing is that they enliven everything, no, no, on the contrary, i think, thank god, they somehow noticed, so i liked it, this is
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immodest work, it’s wonderful work, you shouldn’t be modest, it’s called cultivating courage, but today we learned that you are thinking about titles, and here is another fresh work that does not yet have a title, which means that you not only write accurately, but also the title. you definitely know how to give your works , since they are so catchy, well, yes, a title for me, this is important, in order to also give freedom, for the viewer, yes, ah, don’t send him to some here is my idea, which i laid down, let him think of something else, and you try an experiment, post your new work on social networks, write a new one, come up with a name, no, i don’t want to attract attention like that, no, why, your gallery owners always insist on on the fact that it is important to highlight this, promote yourself, yourself, and this is simply immodest , this is good, someone has some kind of curator who works with him, but here, and for yourself, look for some such paths
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are artificial, no, this is not inherent in you, no, but what is definitely inherent in you, as we understand, is a reluctance to go, so to speak, in step with everyone, and as you once spoke about this in the film, joint efforts do not always lead to what you want. well, really, well, he’s the only creator, we immediately imagine the artist as some bearded, unkempt man in some attic writing works, uh, poets, he, he swears when suddenly someone comes in at the wrong time, well, a creative person - this is still a single person, this is not some kind of collective work, yes, but this is a picture of creativity? this, no, this is not creativity is a must. it seemed to me that this was a straight political manifesto, no, it’s broader, of course, it’s not about creativity, it’s broader, because well, creativity is a narrow activity, after all, it’s isolated and
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human, that’s why i’m just like an artist, he writes a work, even his loved ones appear, who he loves in the family and come with their advice, but this advice is always difficult to accept, believe anyone, anyone and the director probably, but also the composer, and any person, yes, that is, if this, of course, yes, even to anyone, you see, to the creator who writes, he seems to live by this, suddenly someone says, here’s an old man, this is wrong, here you have to remove something, this is something, yes, but often say the phrase, i’m an artist, i see it that way , yes, i never say it, your religion is also fishing, valentin alekseevich, as we know, but tell me, is this a refuge for henpecked people? this is no, this is a man’s passion, absolutely not , especially for me, even i’m not
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a procurer, this is for me and i’m not going for fish, and i can give the fish if they’re not trophy ones which you can take a picture of, boast about, i will give it to other fishermen, i go for the relaxation of this nature, for the clouds that are reflected in the water, for some kind of male... pieces of brotherhood, where to drink moonshine, there is a crackling fireplace, there is a fire, and where the fireplace crackles for fishing, well, that’s where i go, yeah, that is, there’s some other infrastructure there, no, it’s just a house, a village one, well, don’t spend the night under a boat in a car, you still prefer comfort, yes , although, as they say, a real artist must be hungry, but you still do you prefer to create in some and stay in some comfortable conditions, probably yes , because even this, look at the subtlety, here i am going, like, to wild lands, some
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miory region, yes, wild boars. that means, in some kind of fishing boots, a village house, the conditions are like this, yes, that means , on the streets, all the conditions, but i’m still carrying dishes, i want to drink from some kind of antique glass, and i can’t eat from plastic ones these white plates, because it seems from deer, so as not to wash, but take them, but here as it were, my love for comfort extends to dishes. well, it’s also nature in a way, no, it’s natural, because i don’t have to show off in front of someone, that’s right, i’m just my fellow fisherman, but i tell him, well, old man, why do we need some plastic , let’s have a normally beautiful table, let’s say it’s a wild locality, and your men’s club is used to your such habits, so let’s say, is he ready for aesthetics with you, or do they say, listen, put away your antique glasses? give him a glass normally
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i like it that way too, well, you’re not henpecked, no, i’m not henpecked, that’s right, do you consider yourself great? no, of course, i’m not henpecked, and i’m not great, but what, well, only if you say that it’s average, we won’t believe it, no, if you touch on it, regarding this - art, i think, a lot of artists, a lot of bad words, but a bunch of. here in belarus we have beautiful people better than me, whom i respect, admire, sometimes sympathize with, like, let’s say, well, there’s no market, let’s say, katerina sumareva, a wonderful artist, that’s all, and when i see that she, here’s her post there, that it’s my birthday, i’ll be glad that someone will buy my work, this still hurts me a little, yes, that’s the artists, it ’s like in our world, the whole last
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youth exhibition amazed and delighted me, you saw, 80% of women's names, 8%, were seen and the curators are all women, and i think, wow, but the world practice is the opposite, for example, on the market, especially on the secondary market, where the value is shown, well, these are auctions, today just a day... artists, artists, yes, they crossed this psychological threshold in 1 million dollars, only three, why is it so difficult for women to make their way in this world , and you know, they’re trying to somehow explain this, it’s strange, here we have an exhibition of 80% youth artists, it seems, and beautiful, talented, young, so
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yes, the market shows, as it were, you know, as it has been explained lately, that... despite the fact that in the world of fine art there are many female artists, but the buyers, mostly men, are already showing their kind of male ego , you understand that they choose men, it seems like it’s not very clear definition, but so far it is the only one, these are explanations, well, 2 years ago you had a personal exhibition at the national art museum, we had a visiting director, vladimir ivanovich prokoptsov , and he said that not all contemporary artists, of course, are awarded such an honor, but for you it was an event, really an event? this was an event, why? firstly, as they say, the great one, to go and ask, to exhibit, i would not have dared, so, i already felt kind of pleased, really, inside, that i
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prokoptsov himself called, for three and offered an exhibition, but why three, you refused the first two? well, i have a contract as a stranger to work all the time, i need to fulfill the contract to send to the gallery, there simply wasn’t the number of paintings, and when he said for the third time, i think that’s it, we need to collect them, we need to accumulate them, and i also wrote my gallery, that for now i ’m kind of stopping it in order to make an exhibition here, but i still had to...’ 2/3 to take from collectors, what was at the exhibition, you say, a contract, work, is it really true that for an artist, painting a picture is just a job from 9 to 60. from monday to friday i have to paint a picture, well, no, of course, i don’t think that’s the case for many, because there is a word for inspiration, so yes, that’s the case for many
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artists, when i ask, they say, i haven’t worked, there’s no inspiration, yes, i don’t have that, why , because ideas appear, for some reason, they are ahead of my physical capabilities, and working on it, here i am... but i i’m already dreaming of the next one, which is i have an idea, i live with it, i walk with it, and this is inspiration, this is what it’s like for the fire of inspiration, these are coals, these new ideas , which will turn out to be wonderful work, good, for me, i mean wonderful, because the public may not accept it, but still, thank god, i work irresponsibly, without thinking , that means, neither about money, nor about recognition, nor about press. just for your own pleasure, but is working for pleasure irresponsible? it’s irresponsible when you don’t think about any benefits for your work. valentin alekseevich remembers the difficult times when he worked in a publishing house before becoming
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famous for being an artist, and how he went to work from 9 to 6. tanya, what you’re asking about, it was very difficult for him to explain to his mother-in-law why he stopped doing it, and how he threw up. but you have a creative plan for 12 paintings for the year. no, it’s in my contract how much i owe, yes, i’ve never let you down in my life, you know, for a long time i didn’t even think that you were a belarusian artist, you don’t have this, you know, this one, well such a note that everything is bad, there is nothing, that is
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, somehow this contract lifted you up, of course, it was a lucky ticket, above all the local problems, you know, that exist, well, in this cauldron, in this artistic world. well, this may be true, i even remember, here’s our wonderful artist, here’s tovsik, volodya the people ’s artist, he says how good it is, valentin, that you’re independent, so he said, it’s true that this is also important, look, in new york, in new york alone, there are 30 times more artists than artists in the entire post-soviet space, including georgia, the baltic states, moldova, can you imagine how you... need to, i think only artists with american passports, not with belarusian ones with others, and everyone wants to live for their work, not to work
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somewhere, and everywhere in the world, in europe, for an artist is considered in the public consciousness only by those who earn money and can support their family, create a normal quality of life through their work, in england 2,500 artists graduate from art departments a year, but only 2.5 realize themselves % or up to 5%, you see, it’s quite difficult, here after all, it’s difficult to become an artist, but it’s easy to learn, but then to exist as an artist, so this is work, this is a task with an asterisk, do they force themselves? and work, but you have to work, maybe, i don’t know, as couriers, security guards somewhere in a supermarket, yes, or in publishing houses, as many of you also make their way, well, i mean, as illustrators, of course jerome, of course, it’s great that it was, but the fact is that
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now illustrators will be replaced by artificial intelligence, and this is another big topic, but now we'll take a break for a while, and after a short pause we'll come back again. to this studio, for now subscribe to our telegram channel , say don’t be silent, look for all our releases on the youtube channel belarus 1. i know your tradition of writing at least a few lines in your diary, but every day, what will you write based on the results of our meeting today with you, yes, i will write that i was not very worried. that the questions were interesting, that once i was stumped by one question, that i was surprised myself, right? on the air again, say don’t be silent, our guest is the nation’s favorite artist valentin
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gubarev. again, based on your paintings, kazan tyus recently staged a play, a winter fairy tale for adults. let's see a short announcement. well, the idea is on the surface, we have already touched on this, so let’s conduct such an experiment, take one of your latest paintings, try to put them together one after another and you can hear a clear story behind them: here is
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a woman going somewhere, yes, where do you think valentin alekseevich is going? it seems to me that she travels constantly, because i wanted just this plot, here’s the title slow life, this slow life personifies, this monotony of the fence, which is generally unknown where it began and where it ends. and the dog doesn’t even pay attention anymore, because for her it’s a routine, a constant picture, it’s like a movie , remember, it’s a famous one, yes, it was called american, that’s why it seems like a frozen picture, although there seems to be movement here, but this is such a slow life, the drag of such a slow life, but i didn’t have a negative point of view when i came out, but this is my favorite house in my yard here there is exactly the same one nearby, a british cat is sitting on the balcony, this is not some kind of negative
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connotation, this is our favorite life, that ’s it, when yes, nothing seems to happen, but nothing bad happens, yes , now this should also be what happens in life, but dear, kind, a measured rhythm to which everyone is accustomed, well, let's imagine that this woman comes home, let's call her a stranger, and pay attention to your next new one: the job that so called stranger, well, almost kromsky, i would say, well, i wanted these quotes, allusions, of course, to play with this, the serenity of this stranger of kromsky, the serenity of our stranger, and how, of course, what could she dream of, besides the maldives, but for to her, these dachas are also like the maldives, she finds pleasure in it, well, after drinking a cocktail she falls into a kind of ecstasy, goes into the living room
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and plays chapin, or what is your favorite composition, chapin, well, let’s see how this happens, you see, how good she feels, how easy it is to freely, just don’t misunderstand, we they talked so much about naked women that it would be wrong not to show them in your performance, probably, valentin alekseevich , well, we have a short story about a stranger and... now do you live more often in minsk or in alekhnovichi? no, well, of course, i live in minsk, nolekhnovich, of course, this left a huge mark on my life, many stories appeared, and in general life is wonderful, here on the farm, i, a city person, as if a purely person, like it, and you see, in all my works
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there is a province, so i think that the previous life, i definitely lived somewhere in a provincial town, i like how you once formulated it, that you like houses to be lower than the trees, but now i ’m wondering if you have another famous work, how beautiful this world is, a painting , which i observe every day from the twelfth floor, i understand that of course you are right, yes ... the slow life that we all dream about now, but it’s amazing that this is how beautiful this world is, but it seemed, you see, here it’s clear, everything is ours, well, it’s strange, so she should, so she will go to luxembourg through he’s been gone for a week, that is, how they got into it, yes, we all from the concrete jungle dream of such thoughts, but because anyway it is said ironically, well, are you a celebrity in alekhnovichi?
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yes, i don’t want to, well, under no circumstances, why , is this even a thing, are you really somewhere from... who has at least achieved something, although i don’t know what i can achieve there, nothing, and come , to put on airs there, something, no, of course, but what kind of house do you have, it’s huge already, no, this is not your house, this is the house anyway, as it were, of parents, wife, there, her ancestors, this is a huter, everything, so the family house, well, i ended up there, somehow there is a word that, straight up, are you russian? well, yes, i was born, yes, in russia, then at an institute in moscow, i once studied, and despite the fact that i was invited to do a lot of work in moscow, and people seemed to strive for this, but were surprised that i pleasure, because i even had an internship during my studies in belarus, and i came
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here, and in encyclopedias everywhere, everywhere they write a belarusian artist, in france in an encyclopedia it is written that valentin guborev was born in nizhny novgorod, belarus, that is, they generally tied it all together, you recently admitted how you printed your painting for yourself, printed it so well that after some time you sold it and passed it off as an original, why did you pull off such a fraud, a lot of money were needed, no, of course, i am, this is not a fraud, i just convinced myself. for the time that i had it, maybe a year and a half, that this is an original, because my painting is still smooth, because you know, there are paintings that are postural, you can itch, mine is smooth, yes, so i can easily send works rolled into a tube, and i got used to it, i thought that this work was original, and when a person liked it, he wanted to buy it,
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indeed, i sort of appreciated it as a real work, later, it it... hung, even another, maybe three years passed, and when he discovered that it was not an original after all, god, i almost fell into the ground when i gave it, well, of course, i returned all these costs to him, that he i got carried away, but it turns out that we are going on a school topic, but this neural networks, artificial intelligence, copies in the modern world, what do you think as an artist, well, as a person and as an artist, i’m really still worried about whether i ’m a substitute or not, i wouldn’t want a woman to wake up in the morning and only in the morning discover that it’s artificial, after what’s between we were, especially so, therefore in art, when suddenly i discover works and wonder for myself whether this work is mine or
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not, or as i know, the composer interrupted the writing of his symphony, but did not notice... noted where he interrupted, the next morning he, and the artificial intelligence added it, and so did he i couldn’t figure out where he finished, in what place, and you couldn’t figure out whether it was a copy or an original, that’s what’s being done, yes, that’s why this worries me, i think that , of course, we need to sort out the legal issues, uh, troubles to know whether it is a fake or not , is it worth it or not? because there is a danger that creativity is real, distinguishing creators will turn into a hobby, so valentin alekseevich, if you yourself cannot distinguish, the composer cannot distinguish where he wrote, where the neural network is, what to do, how how to distinguish, how to set a framework for there should be laws stating that works created artificially, by artificial intelligence
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, should immediately be designated, that is, as we see in grocery stores, a product with a milk fat substitute, it is written, yes, yes, they are also deceiving, not everything is written there, this is what needs to be done, and also delicious meat, with some kind of signs, this is what punishment is for cheating, uh, you know, your analogy with products brought me to an interesting thought, reassured me that artists are all real - there will be valued, it seems to me, you know, how this is the era of craft products now, right? craft drinks, so the time will come for craft artists too, when they want someone to paint a picture right in your presence , they will rent you, you know how it will be , some kind of new art experiment, so that the artist paints a picture in your presence, okay, but how can be appreciated if someone else says, well, why, look, i pressed
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a couple of buttons there and the same thing came up, i have this work, but there’s no soul, there’s no soul, yes. and the soul, is there some kind of instrument to measure it? there is, there is, your creativity, look, there is some kind of thermometer, there is something enlightenment, there is a soul, right? well, you see, let’s say, we value handmade furniture much more than factory, ordinary printed furniture, when it comes from an assembly line, because it’s handmade, so i didn’t figure it out myself, and if you, too, find it difficult to figure out where there is no indication, well, this is interesting, we’ll watch, you have such a famous work, an opener, when the opener flies universe, well, i also hope that real creators will not disappear. it really seemed that earlier this concerned the kasirs, because
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they would be replaced, but it turned out later that all of us could be replaced very easily, here is valentin alekseevich, what an interesting topic we came up with, but unfortunately, the broadcast time of our program was also up, we we are very grateful to you for today’s meeting, exhibit where you planned, write, come up with titles for new works. come again, we are always very glad to see you and we hope that real artists, like real journalists , will not die out as a class. tatyana sherbina, victoria popova, we say goodbye to you for today, goodbye. goodbye, and now valentin gubarev speaks. well, i would like to wish all people to be closer to art, that is, do not forget to read books, go to plays, listen to music, go to exhibitions - this ennobles the soul, goodness. play with children, go to the forest, go fishing, so these are my wishes to everyone, no matter how much we run from artificial intelligence, valentin
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alekseevich, he burst into our lives, into our studio, and based on the logo he drew such a charm where guests, especially our dear ones, leave autographs, some kind of
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wish, please leave yours. dziўnay jumping is a natural richness of belarus, the size of tayamnіts can be found in braslauščyń, here you will find enchanted lakes from the extraordinary called god's water. the name of the lake is atrymala dzyakuyuchi. to our abras, which reminds us of the waters, lakes, and the shape of a regular circle, which does not change at the present time, there is a difference, which is why so much on the right people from heaven, and the size of such

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