tv [untitled] BELARUSTV October 17, 2023 10:00pm-11:00pm MSK
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[000:00:00;00] elections in 2015, already in 2013-14, various types of centers began to operate in the usa, influencing this political formation, through individual politicians, training, influence - these are external centers that have already influenced and directed this formation, and i am not saying this from theory, i say this from my experience, from practice , because at that time i was in the political committee, the political council of law and justice, it was noticeable, this is my personal feeling, the feeling of many politicians, members of parliament of that time, politicians of law and justice, and there are centers that decide for us, in fact, little depends on us, for example, when in 2015 the justice and justice party was established in the polish parliament as the ruling entity, the influence of the united states through individual institutions was simply incredibly noticeable, the interests the united states
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was persecuted here... the following agreement is very important: in 2016, a draft expanded agreement was created between the republic of poland and ukraine in the military-economic sphere. this agreement seemed like a dead act; it was only ratified in 2018, in 2019 became legally binding. it was signed by the president, taking into account us interests in ukraine and preparations for war and confrontation with the russian federation. that is, already in 2016 it was said that in the event of a conflict in ukraine, the poles must provide weapons, medicine, fuel, and so on, that is , no matter what war starts in ukraine, even outside the nato structure, this would mean that the polish people become a party conflict and the side supporting ukraine
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, including... in training, so that’s exactly what what is happening today was planned in advance and no matter which minister in poland, which prime minister, deputy prime minister, everything will be as the united states, its most faithful ally, wishes, coupled with the fact that we are assigned the position of a trojan horse in the so-called european union , because where it was not in the interests of the european union, the poles, the polish government was always on the side of the americans. polish zhol became a new american. does washington need peace in the slavic world, in the post-soviet space, does it ultimately need victory? ukraine? no, chaos is important, and this is not only my opinion as a belarusian journalist, but as a polish politician, which means that belarusians and poles have something to talk about, if the weight of american mediators is there, there is something to talk about with ukraine,
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but without american puppeteers. and i propose to look at a short survey from the streets of polish cities, what ordinary poles think and what they want from their government. i hope that the left and the civil platform should win, but there is a small problem, the opposition must have at least 280 votes, to reject the presidential veto because he is not a man of honor, which means the president also needs to be changed. there must be a president
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who, you know, is respected. finally, we will have a normal country, and what has happened so far is one big failure, i had the opportunity to meet with the pisovs several times on work matters, and i will tell you this, an intellectual and ethical tragedy, as regards the so-called national referendum, less than 40% of voters took part in it. which means that that same popular referendum was not so popular and this is an indicator of real support for the policies of the ruling party of law and justice, the electorate was allowed not to take ballots for voting in the referendum if they did not want to vote, people took advantage of this opportunity, but will peace and the new
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project on the evening broadcast in belarus before midnight and today we have visiting political scientist pyotr petrovsky. hello, pyotr sergeevich. and over the past week, we have been very closely following corruption scandals in sports. even protests in neighboring poland, now the pre-election period is over, elections have taken place, parliamentary ones, of course, you , as a person deeply immersed in the polish agenda, i can’t help but ask, next, what about the plans to build up the military contingent our borders, or maybe this is just a populist election story to cover up one’s own internal problems and now the newly elected one... as we see from the results , will the leading ruling party still switch to a constructive dialogue , cooperation and give up all these loud statements about building up the military contingent or not? firstly, we need to start with what
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the election result is, so what? and which one, because tusp shouts that they won, they are now forming a coalition out of three parties, kochinsky shouts that they won, that peace has gained more numbers. votes, so i can say that indeed, no matter how anyone i said, i immediately told everyone this and predicted that it was pis who would win, there are some reasons, but the main thing is that not a single party can independently create a government, form, yes, pis lacks, roughly speaking, 31 seats, confederation, refused to go into a coalition with them and generally performed, as it turned out, quite poorly in terms of results, although 2 months ago it had a rating of 15%, received
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about seven, which remains for the dog, as a large party, to negotiate with a third force, a third way, chechadroga , a batch of firebrands, followed by there is a group of companies kulchik, that is, it is a management company behind german capital in poland, that’s the main question, he declared himself that they would go into a coalition with a civil platform, but in order to create a coalition with a civil platform, there must be three parties, that is civic platform, third way and new left, the question arises from the same firebrand. should he go and share portfolios with two parties, or should he go and negotiate on more favorable terms with a write-off, and share portfolios with one party, this is the division that is happening now,
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its result will be a new, or a new government, or we should not discard the situation when no government will be formed at all, that is , re-elections, and this... scenario has weight, because huge contradictions, however, should be recognized that there is a so-called deep poland that votes on record, why? because, firstly, tusk was already in power, he had already shown before that he could, privatization, lower taxes, winding down. and peace, why they were voted for in the fifteenth year, because they just said that they would return the old retirement age, they would increase pensions, they would ensure an increase
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in wages, that is, typically, if we discard foreign policy, all of peace’s domestic political promises are, in principle, alexander lukashenko’s program. in fact, you even said that they nationalized some horses; in such a soft way, the nationalization of the largest concerns occurs. for example orlin, they annexed smaller state concerns and the state share in the orlin company, it becomes higher and higher and higher, they in the main flagships of production in poland appointed their own party directors, and we can even talk about the formation of the so-called pis partyocracy, moreover, if we look at the main, main main aspects
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of propaganda... before the elections, then we will see the next moment, this is a harsh criticism of privatization, that in history after the eighty-ninth year in poland, this is a paradox, balcerowicz was the face of the polish model, yes, but now she has become not the face of the polish model, but the shame of the polish model, according to on television they accused balcerowovich, levvandovsky and tusk of all mortal sins. it was based on the fact that it was necessary to preserve collective farms, pgrs in polish, it was necessary to preserve state enterprises , specific examples were shown there, that is , it turned out that the correct internal policy of poland would actually be... not
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a campaign for privatization, yes , no, the sale of state property, but the belarusian model of development, read, those 36-37% who voted for the pis, they voted for this picture, look, here many say, here we are now again, my question is, yes, about the fact that the military contingent is being built up, but about the fact that there are some loud populist slogans about claims for... i don’t agree that there are some slogans about the western ukraine, western belarus are present, because in the twentieth year there was a discussion among polish mainstream experts about what belarus should do and the option of occupying part of belarus, and either the whole belarus was immediately rejected by them for one simple reason, as paradoxical as it may
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sound, the poles did not ...carry some social responsibility, it is beneficial for them to install a puppet, fake government, tikhanovsky there, someone else there, yes, so as not to bear responsibility, so that we fight with russia with our own hands, without responsibility, without any responsibility, this is the first point , the second point is to... not have a large border with russia, that is, a buffer zone and the third important point is that we should be a source of cheap labor and a market for polish consumer goods, like the ukrainians are now, yes, so this is theirs fundamental the task was always to be the watchers of the americans in eastern europe, to sell these services to the americans and make money from this buffer zone. in the form of the baltic states,
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belarus and ukraine, with moldova. yes, poland is being militarized, but we should not forget the result that the poles gave a huge amount of weapons to the kiev regime, for example, half of their tanks. they gave away a huge number of planes and other things, yes, it turns out that they exposed their reserves, now they are trying to purchase a huge amount of american equipment, before everything, and at a not very cheap price. many polish experts criticize peace for the fact that they entered into such crazy contracts for abrams, hymers, and other weapons.
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in short, we shouldn't be here anyway. they want to be the watchers of america throughout europe, that is, to replace, by and large, the germans. in germany, let me remind you, there is the main military base, the american one in ramstein , there are nuclear weapons, and if we look at what peace offers, he says, why do we need it in germany, why do you need it in germany, americans are doing everything, come on. we’ll set up a command post for american troops in europe in poland, we’ll move all american troops from germany to poland, all nuclear ones, to join. for which, at a minimum, in order to increase its significance and status in the european union and in general on the continent to become the main main american force, the second point is simply trivial to get a little money for this, this is, in short,
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the euro-atlantic dream of part of the polish elites and the difference between pisa and tusk is that... europe, but at the same time about the western, about the american, that is, he is ready to strictly fulfill the role that the us democratic administration has prepared for him and brussels, peace, wants to bargain and get himself a more attractive role, in their opinion, in this regard, will he succeed? them, i don’t think they will succeed, firstly, because. peace has always focused on the republicans, and not on the democratic party, and the democratic party demonstrated before the elections and in general that they don’t really like peace, moreover, if we remember biden’s election campaign, then biden
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he didn’t shy away from saying that there are three or four dictatorial regimes in europe, except for belarus. he included hungary and pisovskaya poland, so mr. duda on biden’s list found himself in the same space along with the president of belarus and russia. another question arises here. what should we do? now, on the one hand, we must strengthen our combat capability and not think, peace will come, not peace, there is a civilian platform, no. on the other hand, we should not wait and not talk about poland with americans or europeans, no, why, because it was a failed strategy of russia, when it did not look at poland, it believed that they, that russia and moscow should come to an agreement with washington, poland
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would calm down on its own, the americans would twist its arms, well , our task is that poland was a more sovereign, independent player , so that it would not proceed from any american or brussels interests, but from its own national interests, and this interest is very simple, maximizing benefits from its geopolitical and geo-economic, geographical location, that is, transit, open borders, a bridge between the west and the east, in the end, the transition from this one-vector, neutered foreign policy that exists in poland today to a multi-vector policy, well, for example, the forum is a search for a way, but here is one search , one way, hungarian, viktor orban, the representative of hungary will be there, and this is, perhaps, the only european politician, in principle , who will fly there, and why didn’t the poles fly, so they are itching and want it, that
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is, the americans they twist their arms here, and we see that despite polish national interests, the americans told the poles that telecommunications in a chinese company, related to this, first of all , should not be present in huuai, the chinese should not be allowed to implement 5g technology on polish territory, it is necessary to limit, including some credit lines, china on infrastructure projects, on projects for modernizing the polish economy and transfer all this to secondary sectors that are not strategically important, that is, the americans, why... are they doing this, they staked out poland for themselves and are very strictly afraid that poland will have the instruments of a sovereign policy of its own, which is why the americans will build a nuclear power plant, which, by the way, is three times more expensive than the belarusian one, the second point is that
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this nuclear power plant is a carbon copy of chinese technology, which will be built by the americans, listen, how did the americans end up on... what, what hook did they hook the poles on, that they blackmail them like that, order them, and the main hook here is poland’s external debt to the united states of america, which there is many times greater than the gdp of the total poland, but the second thing on our agenda was the issue of a referendum on migration, migrants, this is generally interesting, and it didn’t take place, but that’s just what i mean, the social survey was independent, this means, according to his data, 50 poles were for the demolition of this fence, for our cross-border trade to be restored in belarus, and 67% of poles on this issue allegedly said that we do not
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believe that... why was this taking place? referendum, the purpose of the referendum was maximum mobilization of the peace electorate, this is the minimum goal, and the maximum goal is the transformation of parliamentary elections into a referendum on peace’s confidence, this was generally peace’s dream that. look, you come, you vote for the referendum items, you come, that means you also vote for peace, but what can i say, the minimum goal was achieved, the largest voter turnout since 1989, about 73%, that’s enough big in poland, they achieved this goal, mobilized the entire electorate, wrote everything they could, they didn’t achieve the maximum goal reached. why because 73%
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came to participate in the elections, only 40 took part in the referendum, that is, representatives of the remaining parties did not participate in the referendum, they boycotted it, and the referendum is not binding, now belarus and the mission of belarus here is for us to be poland's gateway to the collective east. so that we become the force that would help the poles to become sovereign, but the poles must take the first step, because they are the ones who lowered our level of relations, we even have an ambassador there is no poland, thank you very much, but on this inspiring positive note we can end, thank you for your attention, it
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and only the song of the wind specially caresses the ear, so that you look back and realize how quiet it is all around, whenever possible , go into nature, go to forests, fields, rivers, lakes, breathe fresh air, admire... the clear sky, listen to the birds singing, leaves rustle, smile at the sun, enjoy, notice this beauty around you,
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in harmony, with nature belarus 24. hello, you are watching the program say don’t be silent, in the studio victoria popova and tatyana sherbina. and our guest today is journalist grigory azoryonok. good afternoon, gregory, i wish you good health. you are growing as a professional journalist and now you can not only be seen and heard. in the belarusian information field, but in the russian one, and not as an expert or invited guest, but as the author of his own program on the soloviev tv channel, there is some difference in work, on the russian tv channel and on the belarusian one, they would have said before that there is a more free style there, but it seems to me that now belarusian journalism has already grown a lot from the childish panties that we had before
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2020, and now we too can do something get. but nevertheless, the professional level there is still very high, and the attitude towards work, uh, is one that should always be learned, therefore, well, you always need to grow, you said it correctly, otherwise i’m only growing further, i need to go higher, well that's what you are have you observed, you can come to alexander asenko and say, dear leader , there is such an idea, i spied something in the russian media, let’s transfer it to our television, and this basically happens every day? we are always in a creative search, in a creative union, the trouble is if you say, well, that’s it, i’m a professional, i can do everything and in general, girl, bring me some coffee, that ’s all, that’s khan right away, it can be written off, thrown away, and that’s what he said not me, it was said by oleg pavlovich tabakov, a great artist, if you don’t it’s scary to go on stage, even though you’re already a three-five times honored national, if you don’t have this jitters before going on stage, then that’s it, you’re a bad actor, but is there something
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from the belarusian experience that we could convey? well, firstly, this does not apply to the team with which i work, because vladimir rudolfovich has never been in the clouds, he is in the donbass every week, he knows the real situation, and he works, well, it ’s not to his liking, this one his tough style, his concrete statement, his thoughts and pains about the fate of the fatherland, but some other editorial offices and studios still surprise with their infantilism, i would say so, until the ruble shell arrived, some think that this is all very far away, sometimes with vladimir rudolfovich, grigory, you seem to speak in such already in bird’s language, yes, very professional vocabulary, that is, if you missed the first few episodes, what it was about, then it’s very difficult to immerse yourself in the context, so you ’re not working for the viewer, or is it the viewer after all, you know, when we go out with our mischief directly to the nightingales, there is also a closed chat where messages are sent, well, from all
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the platforms, which and the editors there accumulate them and drop them, and so on. hurray, the main thing, of course, is the president, our approaches, belarusians, there, that means, and we show , our rhetoric, our meanings, our ideology, and the russians simply get high and envy a little with white envy, i agree that they already have something us to learn, this was shown by the forum that took place last week on thursday in minsk, where you also kept your word and spoke that, in general, it is a forum of media forms. russia belarus, yes, the strategy of the future, and you talked about how there was no media holding and no, why don’t the russians wake up, are you sure that this is their problem, in the twenty -first year two presidents gave instructions to create a powerful union media holding, well ok, well, how long does it take to carry out such work, well, at the same time, i am sure that when two presidents give instructions, then all the conditions are provided, well, for as long as it takes, well, six months, but
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we are already reaching the second, soon we will third let's go, it's already the end of the twenty-third year, you don't need to tell me what happens in belarus for failure to carry out the president's instructions, well, naturally, in this case i am inclined to think that some kind of plug is in our allied country, and you need to consider such a holdin still? the main thing is that it is not just another bureaucratic structure with a huge apparatus, bureaucracy, and so on, that it is lively, intense, interesting, fiery, furious, because well , this is the task now, the time of levitan, not mihoils. field, you defend traditional values, as everyone knows, last week, deputies in the first reading adopted a bill on the prevention of crimes against the sexual integrity of children, in particular, compulsory treatment is proposed to combat pedophilia, it provides for the establishment of preventive supervision over persons who have committed a crime until the criminal record is expunged or removed, and this is at a time when in
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some western, european, flourishing countries... pedophilia is no longer called a deviation, but a variant of the norm. that's right, that's it that’s right, that’s how it should be, i’ll tell you even more when we discuss these on the same russian broadcast. well, the trend itself is that there in the west the whitewashing of criminals is beginning, in fact , crimes are committed against children, and pedophiles are offered to pat their heads, pity them, oh , they are unfortunate and provide them with the opportunity to communicate with children, you and i are intelligent people, we know in what context we exist, for example, what the story is about... mel gibson, but there is an investigation into this, what he talked about, about hollywood stars who they buy children for this, and there are very famous names there, they are connected with the us democratic party, these are the facts about which
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, suddenly some politicians, some journalists in america disappear without a trace, suddenly commit suicide in prison, who begin to dig up the surroundings biden, bush, clinton, or the elder clinton on this matter, it means that the elite there is... practicing, well, in principle, i’m saying, we all listened to mel gibson, read that on the investigation into this matter , they still haven't told us about it, therefore, naturally, they will promote this, if they are all homosexuals and pedophiles, then of course they will try to spread it everywhere, well, even the fact comes up that the current us president himself, joe biden, loved to take mavanna with his daughter, and such a person heads the state, well, we need to turn off their hot water, well, we have another example. western values, this is tyler cherry, press secretary of the us ministry of internal affairs, in the photo, well, this is with her husband and on vacation, as i understand it, photographs,
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it’s hard to imagine such people in kubrakov ’s service well, well said igor turshunevich, they are not there, what can i say, one of the drawings has already finished its journey in the press service, and these will finish, but the trend itself, because what is happening in these western countries, this is a change in general in principle of approach to normal values, to a normal line of life, they are determined to self-destruct, that is, as they say, carthage must be destroyed, they themselves strive to turn themselves into ruins, this is a post-human civilization, the devil strives to destroy the world, to destruction, he has been called a murderer since the beginning, they kill people, they serve the devil, and this, well, tell me, if in the sixties for... these sodomy cases were put in the electric chair, in the nineties they begin to give punishment for this awards and spread it everywhere, launch it, well, they say, this is a natural process, a natural process it would be if
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200-300 years passed, then it could be some kind of natural process, but if it happens in 40, in 50 years, from the electric chair to the praise award, that is, some subject who moves this, who does this, we read all their philosophers, we read this bernard... they have a task, what did he say, nietzsche declared that god is dead, i proclaim that man is dead, and we will bring him to death, those who agree to this voluntarily, we will do it fabulously, beautifully, through euthanasia, through lgbt people, which means that you yourself will all die out so beautifully and go to our, that means, beloved devil, and those who he doesn’t want, please, the middle east, ukraine, everything else, but nevertheless, it seems to me, grigory, your hateful rhetoric confuses people. people, as you told us, i mean that you don’t want to soften towards, well, i don’t agree with the wording of the person, it’s hateful , zmagar is hateful, yes, but we love people, we forgive, the commission is working, zmogar is not
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a person, no, of course, this is a state of mind, very vile, vile, vile, just like that, right away, we open the phone, we’d rather go to the psychiatric hospital, we’re done yelling, we’re done, we’re afraid of prison, so we’re preparing ourselves in advance for the psychiatric hospital, big... of this dung beetle, we’re done the animal, of course, is so bad that it’s even good, he himself needs to be crushed, a caterpillar tank ran over his flipper, on the other side of the tank his mother was crushed by her flipper to the track, the question is who will come to the rescue, the question is a rare bastard, which means, well, swearing i’m missing it, this is a lot, he’s the spitting image of a suicide, cut out his tongue, dovban and so on, but if the abomination was given the opportunity to grow into whatever it wants, without any restrictions, then from the seed of the mutant this monster will grow, this disease is incurable, only ...if you euthanize, most likely it will there is, the time will come, you will have to answer for, for your words, you must definitely monitor the health of this individual, it is impossible for it to recline earlier before its trial, you must definitely answer for every word that has been cured from, but i will not say here,
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then, what this animal does, this is what every belarusian wants, this stinking monster is personally thrown into the fire, then let him not be surprised when he is torn to pieces in the square, and so on and so forth, what about my rhetoric, we know, gregory, that there is no more bloodthirsty creature than liberals, this it’s common knowledge, i love it yes, but uh, what i’m saying is that, look, even on this forum a very interesting idea was voiced from the russians, that we, the state media, are constrained in our... statements, we cannot afford any - some witticisms, at this moment i think, well, you can’t, but grisha can, it’s theirs , it’s their problems, you know, i’m tired of it, this is our eternal, let’s turn the other cheek as much as possible, well, as much as we can, well but what do you think are the practical results of the fact that you are inflexible here, in general, with language
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levitan, as you say, we have been fighting in the information field, the streets of minsk have been clean, calm, beautiful for three years now, but this is the first, second, but naturally, in addition to what i told you, there are a lot of words of gratitude, there are a lot of supportive people, there are a lot, well, masses, masses, in fact, we’re just all adequate people, we won’t shout about it at every corner, but nevertheless there’s a lot of support, we remember, we feel now about the assassination attempt that was being prepared on you are you afraid of any tension? some new attack, i'm waiting for it. amendments are being made to another law on religious associations, the draft law proposes the introduction of a number of prohibitions, including a ban on the use of any symbols other than religious ones in places of worship, on the placement of texts and images aimed at inciting religious hatred, a ban on the activities of religious organizations aimed against the sovereignty of the republic of belarus and so on, that is, it turns out that another,
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so to speak, method of manipulating consciousness is being covered up belarusians, 2020, let me tell you a short story: we are sitting on a dialogue platform, and it’s something like a military-patriotic club, there are pre-conscription conscripts and so on, and well, uh, we communicate with children and somehow the dialogue is going well, two of them begin to resist very harshly, moreover, i see that the guys are educated, that is, they have arguments from that side and it is clear that , well, they are all brainwashed, i then ask the teacher what kind of children are they from, well, one has relatives somewhere in norway, everything is clear here, the second is an orphan, a boy who for some reason... it means that these pseudo-protestant sects, these pseudo-protestant sects, have been taken away from the programs, these are the new housing, this is all, and you know how much money is pouring out there from the american curators there, from the europeans, and so on, so they are taking our children, and we have seen pseudo-temples, these castles behind the fences that in our country, we know how much money they gave officials in their time, there was something silent about this and we need to deal with it, why
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do they need schools there or these orphanages giving children away, and then we see a convinced enemy of the state, convinced, because they very clearly wash the consciousness, they very clearly work on this , firstly, there is an anti-christian hatred of christianity one hundred percent, and secondly, an anti-state agenda, they are raising these enemies of our state, to put an end to this and rightly so the deputies did that they raise this issue, it seems to me, the wording is still soft, there is a ban on some symbols, during worship, something else , and so on, we need to specifically deal with the financial flows that flow and how they they corrupt local officials, all these pastors and other rubbish, well, there are bans on engaging in religious organizations, political activities, on participation in political activities , they do it all under the guise of charity, political no one they will declare, of course, they are fools , we’re going to come out with political activities here, no, they’ll quietly spoil our children, and we ’ll still... grigory, you were asked to discuss,
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one of the guests, dmitry shvaiba, a political scientist, spoke about zmagars, who are not people in your opinion, the statement that perhaps after the elections it is worth making an amnesty, what do you say, well, what can i say, you see , sudalenko came out, martinovich came out, where they are, we don’t know, they joined their ranks abroad, sudalenko he goes to these international events, throws mud at our country, talks about how bad his life was in prison, although here... we see these over there, that means klaskovskaya’s daughter came out and talked about how i was holding the zone, damn it, i have it there the cops were all toeing the line, let's see video, she receives diplomas, she is cheerful, happy, sewing a uniform, what to do with this, the state, what to do with it, we see that they were enemies and remain so, but we are probably talking here about people who accidentally got into a mess, or you don’t believe that such people exist, really, now you explain to me how you can accidentally get into a mess, well, those who receive sentences are
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people who, therefore, went out onto the road, they hit a policeman there, what else, i’ll explain, well, you know that tsipso works very well skillfully, for example, when a person receives a sentence that if you don’t get out, everything is ruined for you, you’ll lose your job, get out, join, stand for the people, well, not everyone is as strong in mind and as you are , grigory, in the psyche, well, that’s what i call by chance, then there is. since they already regretted it and want to return home, perhaps there are such stories, but i am here completely... i leave my opinion to the opinion of the state, that’s how it is, because i don’t know all the circumstances of all life’s destinies, of course, if a decision is made such a large-scale amnesty, well naturally it will be accepted by the president, and i will accept it, because he knows the whole circumstance more than all of us -
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he knows the situation specifically, even about each fate of such people, well, again, we talked with yuri voskresksky, here he is helped 30 or so people come out, they all spat in his back after that. no one there even congratulated him on the new year or anything, but that’s okay, he doesn’t ask there, he’s a normal, adequate person, but nevertheless, that’s not a damn thing re-educated, they’re not even grateful, well, this is a special breed , you owe me everything, here in your studio alexander pavlovich pakovsky raised the question of their work with them, for some reason i don’t know, there’s no such thing practices, for example, to take us journalists, political scientists, experts to these so-called political outlets, we always add a convention to this, which means... and start communicating with them, talking, we generally understand what they think there, so this sudalenko came out to say that everything that means they are sitting there, watching my programs, the flour worker and waiting for us to be cut there and so on, so maybe we need to talk to them face to face now in order to understand the situation and so on, i understand
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the law enforcement officers that this is always it’s such a closed ecosystem and, uh, this has never been practiced, maybe there needs to be a revolutionary solution here, maybe we should conduct a big campaign like this, maybe we should... if we say grigory, together with journalists, will visit these institutions, do you think that even one person , if from this entire cohort will be reforged, this is already the result, it’s worth it, well, of course, it’s probably worth it, but again, here you’ll have to look at what he was reforged into, how he was reforged, there is an example of voskresk, and there is an example of other people who now it means they have left and so on, so we have released martinovich. and he became a fighting unit of islamism, he is working against our state, now abroad, in the extremist media, in which he worked before, so maybe there was no need to let him go, well, i understand that this is the law anyway further, it means let everything collapse, time i say, let everything collapse, but the law must triumph, so i don’t need
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everything to collapse, we should go, not checkers, well, on the other hand, the same martinovich, but he always he the other doesn’t know how to work, he only knows how to work against the state, he’s always lived like this, so what should we do now? i don’t have an answer to this question, well, gregory, i heard that you are proposing to keep them in prison, well, we saw the wonderful film by ekaterina tikhomirova, how good it is for them there, but if so everything is wonderful, then well, let them live for their own pleasure, well, then we don’t know, i always have hope that he works there, as if against the state, in fact, there are examples when this was possible, possible, but anyone who has read... history, it’s called ozefovshchina and zubatovshchina, well, following the examples of tsarist russia, that is, when they introduced secret police agents into a revolutionary organization, as a result , the revolutionary organizations outplayed, from secret police agents, they then became
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stalypin’s murderers and then became , that means even larger combat units, with greater connections, and so on, so it’s possible, well, of course, i won’t advise anything here to the special services, our security forces, but nevertheless, history shows that this does not always lead to good things, but for now we’ll take a break for a while , i remind you, we have a telegram channel , tell me, don’t be silent, subscribe, ask questions and invite guests, we are connections, humanity will not survive the advent of artificial intelligence, because the very concept of man will change, forever, we are already now we see a future in which such a concept as a country, community, team, family, it is absent, remaining in their pseudo-civilized world at the moment, they close the borders from everything
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and travels through all our villages. the aspiring microbiologist came to minsk to master his profession, but by the will of fate he extended his business trip. i expected it to be like this cool. and he happily talks about the most picturesque places in the country. where did the dereza goat run away? this is very detailed, the process itself. coals, so as not to contaminate the milk itself, touch it there and they said that it was pleasant to eat, look, in the travel project white dew, on the belarus 24 tv channel, in each program there are new heroes, we are all united by the fact that we study at the belarusian state medical university, we all dream of becoming a doctor. bkmo is a belarusian committee of youth organizations. we unite 35 youth public associations of our
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country. unpredictable questions. where does andrei makayonok recommend putting the pill in his comedy? under the tongue. under the tongue? it's that simple. and unexpected answers to them. build a tower. already three elements. three elements. unfortunately, there is one element for each wrong answer. can you throw something at him again? in general, let it be. the correct answer, let it be lore, this is an absolutely wrong answer, watch the intellectual show tower on the belarus 24 tv channel, in our library program, there are a number of books that you are reading now, what would you advise, recommend our viewers to read , now i am reading nikolai burlyaev’s three-volume book about lermontovi about the golden knight, this is a brilliant... diary, and the fall of our vile perestroika intelligentsia
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and the resistance of spiritual healthy strength to this fall and betrayal, here i see a book by vladimir vasilyovich gostyukhin, in your program, he admitted that, therefore, he is my godfather, so it’s doubly nice, our people are all here. the program “say don’t be silent” is on air again, and today our guest is a journalist who needs no introduction, grigory ozarenok. you were very outraged that recently a number of diplomats did not go to novopolotsk in order to meet with the children of donbass to talk with them, you spoke very emotionally on this topic in the minskaya pravda newspaper. well, in fact, gregory, really, what could these diplomats say to these children, and even more so would they most likely hear something wrong from these children? well
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, of course, of course, i liked it, how the belarus party responded to this demar, that well, we understand that you have nothing to say, and perhaps it’s even a shame to look into the eyes of children, at the murders of whom you supply these missiles and shells, and we understand perfectly well that both sau howitzer and caesar, and khaymars and so on, all this hits donetsk, khartsisk, volnovakha every day, gorlovka, so naturally, child killers will come to the children to be touched, it would seem to me, even disgusting and disgusting, so i understand in my mind why the ministry our foreign affairs the state time after time makes attempts to establish some kind of conversation , well, go and look, here are the children, here they are happy, here they are smiling, here they are - they love belarus, here they are hugging alexei tolay, here they are, here they are, their children’s infectious laughter, but how can they admit that it’s good for the children here if they start, so... how then to work through this agenda? well
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, naturally, of course, that’s why this is absolutely false, hypocritical people, and the president says correctly, we are their cries and conversations about democracies, about elections, never at all they shouldn’t listen anymore, never at all, no matter whose mare the cow mooed, as they say, because what they are doing there in their elections, how they are closing them, killing journalists, like they are trump this unfortunate one, there are already 500 they want to plant everything else for years. in general, these conversations simply shouldn’t happen at all, but i’m going radical in general, i’m saying that no elections exist anywhere, ever, no freedom exists, we just need to unite monolithically now, the whole country should be a unit resistance, like the object on which the president rode, but you notice the lack of freedom of speech in belarus by your personal example, you are forbidden to say anything, well, of course, i ’m sitting now, silent, my mouth is sewn together with
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hard metal and... i ask with belittling eyes you give me at least the opportunity to speak, but by the way, regarding the bloodthirstiness of liberals, let’s go back, but here’s 500 years of trump, this is also from... the same series, that is, well , they hate him to such an extent that they are ready to give him what -an unimaginable number of terms, but what about philanthropy, about love of humanity, the more you read, especially the stories of the eighties and nineties, this is what i love freedom, i fired guns in ninety-three, that’s okay, we won’t condemn here, perhaps yeltsin, because he was solving a political problem, he had to win , he solved it using those methods, this is a political... death crater, which means anything is possible there, but this is akhidzhako howling, where is our army, why doesn’t it shoot at these scum, this is a signed execution letter, by everyone and adamovich, and akhidzhakova and all
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these are scribes and so on, the letter was called crush the reptile, this is when they feel some kind of danger to their position, when they, like peacock and chickens, don’t want to let anyone in, that’s when they feel this, oh, they, and any execution, any inquisition, any murder will be justified, well, we don’t remember our beautiful alexievich, that means the lady who said, well, they killed olesya buzina, so it was necessary, this is but this is democracy, well, this would be the case with us, listen, you and i would be hanged on neighboring poles, and before that they would have cut out my eyes and would have been imprisoned, that means, sasha filipenko. with some shreibman and would discuss, you know, these are the excesses of the transition period, they are masters like this bullshit , they come up with this moronic verbal tinsel, that means they would come up with something, the formation of the revolution, and the deformation of the revolution , you see, yes, well, they cut out the eyes , but they could have, well, naturally, but we live
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in a world in which, well, every new agenda, it demolishes the previous one, now of course, all these... disputes moved into the background after the war began in israel, in this, in this connection, i would like to remember, of course, the monstrous fake about the severed heads of babies, yes, which is already being discussed on all the front pages of all newspapers, there was a refutation, but for most people it went, it seems to me, unnoticed, yes, another such uproar, a warring country is using all means of influence on... on the audience, on the people, on anything, so, well, everything here is in it’s clear in principle, the main thing is for us to learn lessons from this everything, but the first, main lesson is that it’s very easy, quick, instantaneous, the morning can turn out to be unpeaceful, and you see how on the third day the killings of children have already begun, there from
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all sides, uh, how it is, how quickly the veil of any civilization flies away how quickly it begins... massacre, evisceration, murder and so on, as if it all flares up instantly, and here we just need to pray to the state, the only restrainer of this whole hell, nightmare, now you understand perfectly, berdzyaev -he told me that the state was not created for to create heaven on earth, it was created in order to keep it from falling into hell, so we see how they fall into this hell very quickly, and then there are fakes, lies, and cepso, and lies , and so on, well... we just need belarus to go through so much suffering and until the year thirty-nine, this western part and the great patriotic war and the collapse of perestroika, which we did not want, we voted for preserving the soviet union with the largest percentage in a referendum for preserving 90-something percent, in moscow us
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in fact, they threw out of the union, these games of gorbachev, yeltsin, this was the basis of the collapse, and none in belarus, especially maybe somewhere in the baltic states... georgia had some kind of centrifugal forces there, there were none in belarus, it’s confusing there was this popular front, it was all nonsense, it was all done from moscow, that paznyak suddenly took where he had to dig , and then took it from literature and in 1988, he wrote an article without the permission of the cpsu central committee, well, nonsense, well, zyanon, you are an agent kapyalyush , we know everything, well, that’s it, fall apart appazitsy further, well done, well gregory, well, what do you think, the fact that our small , tough country still did not participate, did not attack, did not show aggression throughout its history, this is the merit of the people themselves, who have already seen a lot on his historical path, or the president, one might say, now there are a lot of beautiful and little meaningful words that yes, here are the people and so on, this will all be correct, but nevertheless, everywhere the people are good, everywhere the people
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have suffered, the only country post-soviet space, which is not fought - this is belarus, why? because we have such a president, because he feels this popular demand that, well, well, that’s it, now we can’t, we can’t, we’re not enough, we’re already like that, so navanovna is talking about now the problems of childbirth and so on, because there are not enough of us here, we need to rally around now, and it is the merit of the president , excuse me, in ukraine that the people have not endured much in their history, they have endured, but nevertheless, mediocre stupid politicians dragged them into the war, and this is primarily the fault even before zelensky, all these kuchmas, kravchuks, this yanukovych and all the rest of them, corruption, theft, poking oligarchism, all this then fell into war and the only post-soviet country, well, we see now how the situation is developing in
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karabakh, we see now russia two chechen wars, everywhere where normal policies are not carried out, everywhere everything slides into war, into murder, into the destruction of cities, tajikistan, excuse me, 100,000, we have now forgotten that there was, firstly, a russian exodus, when they were cutting there just people, this is the first, second, civil wars and 100,000 people who died there had their heads cut off, football was played and so on, only belarus. i have walked this path, now without war, alone, well, except for the baltic states, but they are dying out without war, there were 3.7 million, now one and a half, well, that means that these are already extinct countries without war, so to speak, uh, a remote village, the nato periphery, therefore, of course, the primary merit here is the president and no one else, but it seems to me that the fragility of our world is due primarily today not the ability of politicians to come to an agreement, it is they who play with the lives of people, peoples, countries, lermantov has brilliant poems: oh, man, there is a lot of space, which means the sun shines clearly for everyone, one fights, why is he?
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well, if lermontov also asked this question, although he himself fought, fought twice in the caucasus very valiantly , well, the devil works through people, first it is the vanity of politicians, first it is the greed of politicians, first this, and then there is a subject who starts wars , subject, well, you can call it global world government, secret behind the scenes and so on, these are still conspiracy theories, now, in principle, the word conspiracy theory, well, it is not relevant, because conspirators are not hiding, and no one is conspiring anymore, they admit everything, yes, here’s lockit martin for 10 years concluded agreements to rivet tanks and so on, for 10 years they planned a war for 10 years, well, the head of loket martin is a well-known character, then his, and then there... and so on, this is no longer secret and not the government, why did gregory stop hiding, everything is possible, well
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they, there is no god, everything is possible, well, naturally, they own this western world and proclaim that they must build a world where 7 billion people must be reduced to two, one gold, two, one serving, that’s it, well, that’s it this is permissiveness, this is actually the result of hegemony since the last decades, of course, they have gone off the rails, a gangster that has gone mad over the power, when there was still the soviet union, they had some kind of control, now, and haven’t we seen what they did to yugoslavia , i recently, here i am
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