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popularly called cancer onology. doctors consider this as a consequence of the use of projectiles with combined uranium. today there are more than 15,000 people who inhaled this uranium dust during the yugoslav war; they also already have oncological consequences. depleted uranium ammunition was used exclusively in armed conflicts. by the way, at the end of the twenty -second it became known that ukraine was working on a dirty bomb, another type of radiological weapon. the main purpose of such weapons is to hit with radiation as large area possible. by the way, kiev was ready to receive shells with combined uranium. kiev's detonation of a dirty bomb risks contaminating several thousand square meters. the scale of the possible consequences was revealed by the head of the radiation, chemical and biological defense troops, lieutenant general igor kirillov.
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the kiev regime has so far seemingly abandoned such a dangerous adventure, but a shift in the emphasis of western aid to israel may force zelsky to use dirty technologies again. i have a hard time imagining a nuclear provocation, but it’s still ukrainians they will arrange it, not because they are not capable, but because the west will still give them a slap on the wrist. well, again, of course, we are also seeing some attempts here, but they bombed right behind the nuclear power plant, they even tried to capture it, again with their landing force. well, but to use a dirty bomb, yes, well, it will be immediately obvious that ukraine used it, yes. and there, of course , well, in this case , the already shaky consensus on support for ukraine in the west will be greatly undermined, so of course no one will forgive the kiev regime for this, they themselves they understand this, so in this case, it will be a gesture of desperation, maybe at the very last moment. baby and fat man - two atomic bombs, the only ones in history used against living people. of course, the united states of america, sixth and ninth, gave hell on earth to civilians. on august
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1945, the united states dropped the most terrible weapons in human history on kherashima and nagasaki. the first blow hit hiroshima, the explosion instantly killed about 80,000 people, several tens of thousands simply crumbled into molecules, from them only dark silhouettes remained on the walls and stones. 3 days later, the fat man bomb exploded half a kilometer above the city of nagasaki. the number of victims was about the same as in hiroshima, about 60,000. populated cities were wiped off the face of the earth in the blink of an eye, the heat wave melted the tiles in a second, turned the building, trees and people into coal, leaving only ashes. surviving people poured out of hiroshima in a continuous stream, as the japanese newspaper asahimban wrote , those fleeing the scene of the fires resembled crowds of the dead, who came from the other world , their faces and hair were badly burnt, their skin was hanging off, they didn’t say anything, they just stood and asked for water, recalled kaiko... who
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was 8 years old at the time of the bombing. every year the list of victims of the disaster continues to grow with those who died from radiation sickness. figures are updated every august, according to data announced in 2021, the total number of victims exceeded 350,000 people. as it happens, washington did not recognize yet another war crime. moreover, thanks to the american propaganda machine, the japanese looked at the tragedy a little differently. even if there was some good reason, we might not be happy about it, right? however, i understand that there is no point in being angry and indignant now. japan did not want to give up, and also ignored the underground conference, people continued to die in the war, so it was necessary to end the war as soon as possible. the bombing was probably necessary to some extent. the bomb was needed to end the war quickly, though.
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there is nothing good in this, of course, it’s probably just there was no other option, at the political level this topic is not emphasized or raised , especially in the context of bringing any charges against the americans, because the americans are their allies, firstly, and secondly, japan is very dependent on the americans, primarily because - but it is still limited independently, it was occupied by the americans, immediately after the victory of the soviet union, the usa and china over japan, and this occupation, it is preserved in individual elements, that is, here it is problem, when you are in such semi-colonial dependence. from a senior partner, how
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can you raise your voice to this senior partner? as we see, there are quite a lot of prohibited weapons, but the rules are not the same for everyone , cluster munitions, hollow-point bullets and other technologies were left out of the program, their use is sometimes said to be worse than death, and it is much more important to urge the world community not to turn a blind eye to outright violations, especially when only one overseas country remained the main war criminal, throughout almost 100 years, happily.
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nikolaich, good evening, rad sergeievich, good evening, we belarusians are no strangers to epithets, yes in our elections, but i admit, the polish elections, they surprised even me, in some ways, the dirtiest elections, and these are not the headlines of belarusian propagandists , in your opinion, how did it happen that fair , democratic, european elections got so dirty, a global question, we’ll probably try to answer it more simply, the essence is this: there is a struggle within the state for power, power is the one. behind which all parties are fighting and in this fight there are no alternatives and all possible means are used, as for purity , well, let's remember the united states, that's all bright, the brightest example of democracy and those results,
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poland as a champion of democracy and the closest satellite or so to speak, follower the united states, they have someone to follow by example. this also applies to other states, but as for poland, there is an internal split, an internal expense in terms of the further political path of the state, so all methods were used, they don’t stop at dirty technologies , it’s normal that this is already a normal reality today, we’ll talk more about this, let’s do a little political lecture for those who don’t understand why kaczynski. winning lost. and why former athlete tusk says he has never been so happy about second place. many belarusians, you see, do not quite understand how exactly the opposition seven can destroy this feasting victory for kochinsky. here you
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simply need to lower yourself or figure it out in the essence of those political processes and the cuisine that exists in poland. ah, the problem... is very simple, in a country where the party system, power is built precisely on... the representation of the party in the sejm , the number of seats that the party occupied in the sejm is of great importance and it is distributed in accordance with the percentages which they collected from voters, this is where the dog is buried, let’s call it this way, with the victory of law and justice, which has been in power for quite a long time, it won, there’s no escape here, 35.3% is official data, this is the first batch, the second batch lagged behind by almost 5%, and this is 30.7%.
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uh, tusk’s party, but here the further begins, to create power, power , gain power and control the sejm, which ultimately elects the prime minister, who elects the relevant ministers, that is, in essence, then to form a government in order to form a government, a majority is required. everyone, and the winning party does not currently have this majority, even if they enter the coalition with the last, or so to speak, the last of the parties that got into the seven - this is the confederation, it has a little more than 7%, we call it, it is a right-wing party, by and large, they still can’t get more than 50% of the seats with all of them, right here and the problem that polish politicians will now be struggling with... either find a compromise, or break their own country, or perhaps
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get a political crisis, and this option is possible, because the three parties that took second, third, fourth place in in total receive more than 50% of the votes, they can theoretically control parliament, provided that if they agree among themselves, this is where all sorts of things begin... which he is talking about today, because remember his words, now the most interesting thing begins, not only not the main elections, the main thing is who will create a coalition, and he is looking for those options that will suit him for coalition building, well, these three parties that you named second, third, fourth place, well, tusk, it’s clear, and the two parties that took third and fourth place, they are capable. agree in principle? in fact, they can agree on their platform, in principle
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they are all european-oriented, and tusk is a purely european functionary, i would say that he is no longer a polish politician, he is a european politician, he headed european ones, so to speak , charles michel replaced him in this position, that is, he is very well integrated into european politics, he clearly understands the processes that are taking place there and his task, in my opinion, today is exactly the one that was assigned to him, or what he is implementing is to return poland to european politics , well, that is, the european union, in fact , the european union, since in recent years poland has been clearly solving the problems of the united states on the european continent, that is, it is being driven by the united states, it is crossing out many agreements , breaks up contracts and projects that are beneficial for themselves in the interests of the united states, hoping that it is precisely due to the level
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of the united states, due to the capabilities of the united states, that they will rise in the european continent. that is, in principle, yes, i am a hyena, only i am an american hyena, yes , they are trying to prove it, okay, what exactly, let’s say, if these three parties agree among themselves, it turns out that they will be able to form a government, what powers will they have? will the essence be transferred to them? really? power will pass to them in full, today's kochinsky and his party will go into opposition; he will have about 40% of the total votes and opportunities, the composition of the party, which if they enter the coalition, they will create a council of ministers, the so-called prime minister, they will choose, well, their own or they will appoint, this is the tenth question, and most importantly, they will get leverage... on all the processes that are taking place in the state, this is the main thing for which the struggle is now going on,
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in general, with a high degree of probability, yesterday’s opposition can solve this problem, but then they always appear again, but many belarusians say, yes, for them, either one party or the other, but horseradish is rarely worse, frankly, that’s why i would probably do it now emphasis on technical aspects, here let's bend it. fingers, what happened in these elections, in terms of purity and transparency, right? so, the lack of ballots in certain polling stations, yes, well, this is a paradox, it’s generally a paradox for me when there is a specific one. this list. okay, errors with the lists themselves. election campaigning on the day of silence, continue the list. i will continue right away, because there are simply paradoxical directions. well, let’s say, at one of the polling stations, a person
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who came to vote was given a completed ballot. this leads to paradoxes. a very interesting point, by the way, is the use of a state resource in the interests of one of the parties in the election process, they talk about this all the time, this is not, so to speak, not democratic, but it exists, they like to accuse us of such things, if not god forbid this happens here somehow, in any form, it starts right away, but why? it is precisely this point that needs to be clarified, during the 3 years preceding the elections, justice , by and large, usurped the system, the electoral system of poland, i’ll explain what the point is, firstly,
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changes were made to the electoral legislation during this period, and one innovation is very, very interesting, it prohibits, in these elections, voting by mail, something that is always accepted in the united states, something that is in a number of other states, but for poland this is a rather problematic system, why, because more than a million citizens who have the right to vote are outside the state, they could take advantage of this plan, their right, and, as a rule, all these citizens located in other states, they vote specifically for the opposition. well, in fact, they are more pro-european, basically, and it is so, that is, this part of the voters is immediately partially cut off, or forced, creates difficulties for them in expressing their will, which, in principle, happened, the second point about which many, in general, don’t know and say how good it is there, what kind of politicians , what a wonderful democratic system
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, a year and a half before the start of the elections, they changed the forms of, so to speak, regions for voting, well, they cut it differently, not like was earlier, for this reason, today’s parties in power, which are in power, are mainly supported by the rural population, the city is against it, basically, and thus redrawn the map of these polling stations in order to somehow include more in it. population, and this has been done, and this mechanism has been used, that is, this is the second component, now the third component, these are simply empty election promises, and often direct purchase of future votes, due to which, i explain,
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a powerful campaign was carried out on the eve of the elections and proposals were made various payments to various segments of the population, from today's leading parties or parties in power, this applies to pensioners, this applies to people with many children, this applies to students and other categories that to some extent could support today's government, well, how much is a polish vote worth, for how much they bought, oh, it’s impossible to say directly, but the amounts offered were 800 zlotys for... well, for one component of 500 zlotys there in other directions, but the most important thing is not this, the main promise, it cannot be said that the polish voice cost that much, but they tried to buy it using these amounts, and that’s not all, we haven’t finished everything yet, it turns out, but there is one more direction that is worth mentioning,
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this is an attempt to hold a referendum together with the elections and submit it to a referendum.. this is additional propaganda, these are additional, so to speak, points for the party in power, and lastly, this is the exclusion of one of the representatives of the osce parliamentary assembly, ours, belarusian, from participating in election observations, well, this is a violation, and this is quite enough. pay tribute to parliamentary assembly, she brought this to the attention of the polish side, condemned this step , they wiped themselves out of... nothing, as they say, i think they didn’t even wipe themselves off, they didn’t even wipe themselves off, okay, i admit, i watched on social networks the behavior of ordinary poles
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, well, i was interested in the process itself, i noticed many interesting schemes that were used, yes , those who supported the opposition from the capital registered in advance at polling stations in other regions, so that is , they understood perfectly well, even what it was about you say, yes, that there are more people on the ground. conservatively, to what extent did these elections really reveal the real split of poles along geographical and social lines, well, according to age? you know, this is a serious cross-section, i would say that the elections became a litmus test, or so to speak, a piece of paper, or so , figuratively speaking, for the analysis of the processes that are happening in poland, but the reality is that really the western part...' and eastern have a contradiction, and if the eastern part is more peasant, agricultural, it supports more
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right justice, then the left part, it supports the opposition forces, and here this is reality, this is the first moment, the second moment, which means that regarding the city and the countryside, because in fact the city supports the opposition, the village supports, or the countryside, let's call it that, that is, the elderly population and the older population support today's conservative component of law and justice, young people, people, let's say, from 18, probably to 35, they fully support the new opposition forces. contradictions a lot, okay, this is the moment, poland a and poland b, yes, well, at least some experts, this is exactly the phraseology they used, the vote is known up to
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a kilometer, yes, here they will vote for tusk, and then they will vote conditionally for kaczynski, but on the eve of the elections there were statements that almost a civil war should begin if the situation worsened, how realistic was such a prospect in poland. and or is this kind of escalation purely selective? maybe a request for the future? based on the available information and, so to speak, a deep analysis of what is happening, i would still call this a political game. uh, regarding the civil war, this is escalating the situation, by the way, one of those who propagated this was lech walesa, yeah, a man who has a fairly rich political biography. including an inflammatory biography, and i will tell you this, no matter how divided poland is
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by today's standards, either it is the conservative party that is in power today, or it is the new liberals, the opposition forces that are trying to break through to power, their essence is one, they are not all about european, only some are more aimed at brussels and the european union, others are aimed at the united states, they go with them together, they have a single enemy, and naturally he exists, and these parties are getting nowhere from this, i mean, these are russia and belarus, and kaczynski and the company are correct, they made russophobia and belarusophobia a weapon with the help... with which they came to power and now they hold it in their hands, because idea
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eastern countries, this also applies to belarus and ukraine, it is supported, it is constantly fed for a long time, accordingly, no one is going to make some kind of coup and hope that tomorrow we will start building relations, well , i’ll tell you if not.. . friendly, then at least neighborly, not yet necessary, at the election stage everything was aggravated, everything was turned outward and, as you rightly said, any technologies were used in order to stay in power, the second half to come to power, as for further situations, i am far from thinking that poland will change the vectors of its foreign policy, here it is. common ground and a point for finding compromises between these two forces, oddly enough, the conservative right-wing justice and
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the neoliberal civil one. positions or platforms, they were called differently there, but in the end , the left welcomed them, and the third force, the so-called third way, that is, these are those who today are trying to play and come to power, but they will not radically change those vectors that is in polish politics today, well, if we talk about foreign policy, yes , you say, they won’t change, but still, we initially indicated that tusk is more pro-european, yes, kaczynski, they constantly demonstrate that this is a pro-american party, in fact, yes, and their main task is, let’s say, to replace the same germany on the european political field, yes, from the point of view of significance and as a center of decision-making, a center of power, well, at least the americans, this is americanization europe, what our philosophers wrote about...
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50 years ago, it actually happened now, that is, be that as it may, but the main engine of the european union, germany , let’s say frankly, has blown away, well enough, it’s stalling, yes, it’s stalling very much, transferring the same main production to america. , but the question is, okay, but the vector of work with ukraine, will it change or not, in your opinion, in my opinion, no, it will...' to new conditions, let's call it that, and these new conditions will be dictated in that case , if mr. kaczynski and his company remain in power, he will be coordinated with by the united states, in the event that new forces come, or some kind of joint power is united, and this is possible, of these parties, there can only be
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coordination or maybe the general approach will not change, no, it will not change, look to we didn’t say today, the united states is interested in having a conflict, until they say stop, it won’t stop, europe is following the lead of the united states, you just said this, again, or poland will go closer to europe , or she will remain in today. situations closer to the united states, ukraine will remain a bargaining chip that will ultimately be played as a prize by both sides, in one or the other case, well, in principle , this statement by the president of poland, yes, who began to complain that that attention to a certain extent has switched from the ukrainian vector to the dudzh, he directly said this, one should not attach great
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importance to palestine and israel, yes, but the ukrainian vector is still extremely important for europe. what is belarus like in the eyes of those who once left. belarusians have more of this active life position. i love belarusian nature very much, i can come to the forest and just stop. stand, look at the sky, admire this beauty. true patriots are ready to share their love for their homeland, far beyond its borders, it is impossible not to love everything that is connected with the homeland , so that we carry it, take it to our countries and talk about it there too, with our example of serving the homeland of our ancestors, as it were they showed that it could be done, that it was
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that this is just like chanel, that’s not the point suit, in you, when they took you to the section, they warned that we have special clients here and that the attitude towards them should also be special. tanyusha, do not refuse the courtesy of having dinner with me, i came here to work, not to wag my tail, volodya, volodya, who is this? madiyska, here we are trying on trousers, your date is so modest , you can’t even say that you’re a heartbreaker, haven’t you forgotten that we are discussing our wedding at your house this evening, watch the series subtle matters on the belarus 24 tv channel. and for ordinary poles, how interested are they? these two categories, pro-european and conservative. how interested are they in the fate of ukraine? ordinary poles need ukraine
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only because... but they and another party played out a scheme with ukrainian grain. definitely, but there is another situation: the ukrainians are somewhere far away, no matter what they say, they are interfering in poland today, that is, they. in large quantities they arrive there , they interfere with the local population, that is, they take away jobs, the reality is a fact. further, the polish budget is forced to take on additional obligations in relation to for ukraine, more than a billion dollars is already money, it could have been used for other needs, at the same time, the poles felt that their real income had become less, they began to receive less from the european union, well, in accordance with the policy that the leadership is now pursuing. and there are fewer resources, that is, poland is really getting poorer, or rather not even poland, the polish people , they are getting poorer, and they are not interested in what is happening in ukraine, they are interested in how much money they have in their wallet, whether they can
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provide their children with a normal future can he buy the basket of products necessary for himself, so to speak, and provide a future for himself for his children, he is more interested in what kind of pension he will receive, how much... he will receive uh salary and he sees that this salary is not getting bigger, but they keep telling him : you have to be patient, you have to give it to someone, here the question is asked, why and to whom do i owe what, who are the ukrainians? after all, ukraine , in terms of its potential, is in no way less than or worse than poland, and we know this very well, but the country managed to fall apart to such an extent that today stands with an outstretched hand and asks poland for something, well, this is already nonsense, but it exists , so the ordinary ordinary pole does not care what happens in ukraine, but the poles remember both the massacre and the genocide of the polish people on ukrainian territory, they
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everyone remembers this, and it remains a memory, you know, i probably agree with you, given that yavka actually says about this, look, 63% - this was the turnout in 1989, yes, when the poles decided do you think the poles really stormed the polling stations or are they still here? the concept is fake, well, we’re not asserting, we’re philosophizing, and why are the poles so tired in your opinion, besides what you said? you know, you have such a concept, about a philosophical question, here you come, we approach philosophy, as for this parliamentary election, people are tired, what are they tired of? they are tired of being fed promises all the time, at a time when
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promises are always positive, they are promised a bright future, just be patient, tomorrow will be better, they see that time is passing, but from... they are only going for the worse, they are tired of this, the second thing is that every person lives in hope , there must be hope, for 20 years there has been a concrete... the struggle between the kaczynski party and the tusk party, here new forces have appeared, these are the left and the third way, which specifically this time took a lot of votes upon themselves, a lot and many did not expect this, this is generally an interesting point, as for whether the poles were there, did they storm these same polling stations, no, they didn’t storm , but unlike many previous times, they are for
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themselves... realized or they were convinced, perhaps quite clearly, that after all , everyone’s voice is important, hope for change must be supported by something, in this case it was your trip to the polling station, thank god, they understood this, and this is evidenced by the number of people who came, that is, it shows the internal protest potential, that is, people understand that this cannot continue like this, as they may not yet fully realize, but there is already an internal understanding that changes are needed, what kind of change is needed there's a fresh wind, and there’s something else to this, they’ve already realized that, it’s an interesting fact, yes, that more than half of the poles have never been to an election before, in general they are quite apolitical, yes, such an interesting statistic, that is, after all, this fact speaks about mistrust, after all, democracy or, or... trust, that’s how you evaluate it, you know, i wouldn’t talk about
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trust in democracy, i would talk about mistrust in the existing government and uncertainty about the future, these are the two components, they are more realistic in terms of pushing uh, the average person, so that he goes to the polling station, hope, some hope that change is possible, this election campaign gave them this hope, showing what is really happening in the country, you will pay attention , what kind of stuffing there was, what real information there was, it is real, it was not you and me who invented it, it was the poles who found it, the europeans found it, and all this was brought to the people, after seeing all this, all this political kitchen, the poles thought, maybe it's time to sort things out a little own country, well, i wonder, of course, what the consequences will be from well, summing up
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the phenomenal opacity of the polish elections, i want to ask only one thing, in your opinion, the world, the european union, including, they will be interested in what the poles votes were stolen, so let's break this question down into two components, first, will the world be interested? no, second, will he be interested? europe, yes, provided that tusk and the company are now unable to create a coalition alternative to the government, then this topic can raise, but nothing more, well, and still, let’s be frank , poland is not such a great country in today’s orango report card, so to speak, the world orango report card, that they would think about all the states of the world, unfortunately, they themselves
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they don’t think so, okay, if we were talking about russia, about china, about india, about the united states, then the conversation would be different, maybe even about germany, okay, we basically figured out further foreign policy, yes, ukraine will remain a vector, one of the vectors, and the main ones, and, well, abortions, farmers, this is already, everything is still the same, but to what extent. i saw, the ardent activist for lgbt rights, bart staszewski, was very happy, and he called these events that happened in poland the end of a nightmare for himself and other gays, does this mean that religious, very conservative poland, that it will become more rosy, based on from one’s own idea of the world order. understanding of good and evil, i hope i will answer in such
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a way that this will not happen, no matter what poland is today, there with its cockroaches, with its problems, i would i really didn’t want there to be a country next to us that was losing not only power, its independence, but also spirituality, but no matter what they said, poland is actually conservative from a religious point of view. in fact, for many years she resisted the influx of europeanism and lgbt components; this was also kochinsky, whom many also... call a hidden gay, and some actually, this means, younger, who, after all, is his own, so to speak, he i have always maintained this component in my policy, that is,
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the spread of lgbt was slowed down in poland, and this was his position, as for today’s joy, i hope that poland , the polish people understand what they want to do with them, and no matter what power comes in the country, they will still be able to defend their national identity, well, god forbid, behind all this caressing and dirty linen, absolutely unnecessary, for some reason, i want to understand why citizens were given a referendum that took place at the same time, yes, where there was also the belarusian question, a fence, between poland and belarus, yes, for some reason the authorities decided to ask about the elimination of this fence, although they made the decision without asking anyone, yes, but there was not only this question , so why did the referendum fail, elections took place, but the referendum failed, there is
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an expression that i don’t really like, but it exists , let’s not mix flies cutlets, let’s connect them, this is exactly what happened here, the referendum questions, they reflected the critical provisions that the current government would like to initiate, they are secondary, let’s call it that, in relation to the electoral process the process that is taking place in poland today is primarily, after all, the power component, and the formation of a vector... for the further development of our own state, then those issues that were raised in the referendum, well, let’s say, how do you feel about transferring it to foreign corporations the opportunity to use these very industrial enterprises, land and so on, but by and large, what’s new here, after all
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, who needs to buy it, because in the west of poland there are already a huge number of enterprises operating to germany. a huge number of uh all kinds of not only enterprises , but entire concerns that work in the interests of what is there to ask, the second point is, how do you feel about changing the retirement age, well, this is generally god’s laughter, because first increase to 65 years and 62 years, then to bring this question back a little again, to massage it, why, after all... today’s is such that already in 2024, the number of young people and older people in europe will be equal, and then it will go in the other direction, that is, there will be more young people less, without this they have nowhere to go, these are purely populist
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questions, and the last one about our so-called fence on the belarusian border, please tell me, i get the impression that this is nothing more than an attempt to launder or, uh, legalize one’s own corruption scheme, and for this purpose this process is used, nothing more, and it failed, the scheme could not be washed, yes, because people, with all their anti-politics or apoliticality, they did not even want to talk about this topic, this is not primary surrender, they understood this, that is , it was just a populist question, nothing further will happen to them. as i understand it, this topic will not be discussed anymore, it can be raised again, but somewhere like this, if there is a need, that’s it, its time has passed, the fact that the referendum was not supported, in principle , only shows that there is a split in society, between supporters of european integration and supporters of conservative principles, it
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has really emerged, because less than half, well, yes, it’s a disaster, that’s it look, to be honest. in this election epic, the reaction of our fugitives makes me laugh a little, we can’t help but remember about them, but they have largely settled in poland, they seem to have lost such a power of speech, from fair polish elections, because well, when you start to bring these examples, yes, they have fewer and fewer arguments regarding the belarusian elections, however, all the polish parties, both ruling and opposition, they too... did not remember at all about these same fugitives. here is the belarusian agenda in poland, in your opinion, is gone forever? no, she didn't leave. irrevocably, it will play out, but later, when the main issue is resolved, and then everything
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will depend on the position of the united states, yeah, that is , we will wait for 22, they will give a command, they will remember about the fugitives, they will forget, or they will say so, don’t touch it for now, they will live there, it’s unclear how, they will get by, the belarusian agenda will not leave the polish political, so to speak, uh, sphere, for one simple reason: it is very convenient to either heat it up or cool it down in a timely manner, and this is always some kind of lever influence on a neighbor, priest, and even if it is not particularly effective, but from the point of view of political components and waves of information are excellent, they will give a command, yap, woof, and so on, it’s off, they didn’t give a command, we sit, sleep, eat, on those grants, which exist, something like this. well, in your opinion, it’s good, during the elections, why then did they forget about them, because ordinary poles are not interested in this at all, yes, the poles are not interested in this,
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they are interested in poland, their own problems, and most importantly, there is another additional irritant here which we are not talking about we want to say, or rather the polish parties don’t want to say, why on earth are we spending our own resources and money on people who, firstly, are not poles, secondly, do nothing in the interests of our country, thirdly, are parasites among us, and fourth, they create problems for us and our neighbors, logically, nikolayvich, the last one, well, as we like, about a philosophical question , in fact, the last thing belarusians need is such an angry dangerous neighbor at their side, the last thing belarusians want is a civil war with poland, belarusians are ready. ..or at least not to interfere to each other, yes, we emphasize this all the time, but to be honest, i still remember those times when
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a chicken was not a bird, and poland was not abroad, i also remember, but how soon, in your opinion, will the polish beneficiaries play enough of aggression and start dialogue, and if there are real forces there, have they appeared now that they would like and the topic is deep, in my opinion, it also has a great continuation and like any problem there is more than one solution, maybe two, three, maybe four options, well, let's start with the last one component, let's make it the first thing is whether people capable of reaching agreement will appear there today. yes, they exist, but they are not in the first roles, they are not in the parties that are striving for power today, because
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the theme of good neighborliness was replaced a long time ago, by russophobia and belarusophobia, the main policy is based on this, as for, you know, you reminded me thing, after all, tusk, he is not an athlete, he is a historian in his own way, he is a historian, by the way, he has written many books from the point of view of history, he has one of his first works, also a university one, it is, so to speak, in the public domain, it was tied up with pelsutsky, yeah, so let's think, a man who deeply developed this topic at a time when there was practically no talk about it, and this was the seventies, what was in his head? second point, today's authorities, who kaczynski, let's say kaczynski everyone who is with him, because,
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