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belarus 24 tv channel. information and analytical project current microphone on air on belorussky radio television channel belarus 24, with you the presenter andrei sych, as well as our guests, the chairman of the belarusian union of journalists, as well as a military expert, security is coming to... level is already frankly one of the most important values ​​for each of us and for people around the world, regional conflicts that seemed frozen for many years are now actively flaring up around the world. security is indeed the most important value, and belarus in this sense traditionally, practically approaches this issue, convening conferences, proposing and speaking with its initiatives, by the way, i still remember, i use that

very... conference, in my opinion, through the osce, where andrei evgenievich was journalist, unfortunately, all kinds of promises and agreements that our western partners made were not fulfilled, today we are, in many ways, focusing on a completely different vector, and just tomorrow a high-level international conference on eurasian security starts in belarus, reality and prospects in a transformative world, andrei evgenievich, how important do you think it is to hold such conferences and how important is it that belarus takes initiatives at these conferences. i'll start with a small one discussion, i want to argue with the thesis that now many frozen conflicts are blazing with such new force, the fact is that , in my opinion, after all, these conflicts have simply come very close to us, these frozen

conflicts, and before... proxy wars, clashes between superpowers, were placed at a great distance from us and this made us seem less monstrous and less bloody. take the arab-israeli conflict, just take the meat grinder into which the entire african region has been turned, with which we are now like belarus, as a sovereign state, is building direct relations thanks to the position of the president, but 15, 10 , 20, 30 years ago, africa was a continuous battlefield, a meat grinder, the same thing with latin america, the same thing with the border conflict between india and pakistan, this old wound, uh, artificially divided british india into two states, india and pakistan, because there were clashes and hundreds and thousands of people died in these border

conflicts, now, and this is true, the world, is shrinking, that is, all those conflicts that flared up on, well, conditionally, in quotes, as westerners believe, on the periphery, are getting closer and closer to our european borders, this includes ukraine, this is the migration crisis that has affected belarus, poland, but including the balkan countries , yugoslavia, these are conflicts between kyrgyzstan and tajikistan, which again are based on soviet borders and access to water, this is a frozen, but flared up with renewed vigor, conflict over karabakh. and uh, azerbaijan, which resolved the issue with its territorial integrity, but unfortunately, yes, using military force , uh, therefore, any formats, and here the position

of belarus is absolutely coherent, clear and does not change throughout the entire period of our sovereignty, which resolve conflicts, which resolve security issues, which allow belarus, together with our allies under the collective security treaty, strengthen security on our borders, protect our citizens throughout the csto space, belarus supports them, not only does it support, being, well presiding in one format or another, he comes up with absolutely clear , realistic and real security projects, be it... the rearmament of the collective reaction forces of the odb, this was one of the initiatives of the president, and alexander lukashenko had to prove to our colleagues in the csto and the russian federation including that

these csto peacekeepers must be equipped with the latest technology and trained like the elite of the elites, even taking into account the general technical level of the army of belarus or the russian federation. we insisted on this carried out re-armament, retrained modern combat tactics, look how our peacekeepers worked in the january events in kazakhstan, without firing a single shot, produced such a calming peacekeeping effect that the events in kazakhstan calmed down, if this word can be used here for two weeks, that’s why it works, this is the right strategy, we don’t want to use weapons, but with our competence, our training, bearing and our quiet calm strength, we must defend our region, therefore, any format, the format of the cst

, of course, or the union state of the general grouping of troops is a priority for us, but not an exception, not exclusively, take the shanghai cooperation organization, which began as an anti-terrorism platform. i’m just reminding our listeners, maybe someone has forgotten this, but it began as an anti-terrorist association to solve the problems of joint russia and china in the border zones, now the sco is a full-fledged security platform that claims to play a role not only regional, large, but also global. andrei petrovich, your opinion is interesting, regarding these regional conflicts, what are they connected with, is this an attempt... to play in the geopolitical arena of global players, or is it still an initiative of a number of countries to realize their own territorial ambitions. i completely agree with the thesis that the world today is entering an era of wars. already, all these

international agreements, everything we talked about earlier, the role of politics, everything, is practically coming to naught. what is today politicians, politicians, they say, basically only from a position of strength, i think that everyone has already noticed this, and individual states that are trying to maintain some kind of neutrality are unlikely to be able to maintain it in this harsh world, so without any doubt, yes there will be associations in some large formations, in some blocs, in some unions, yes, here we talked about the sco, we talked about the european union, in the end we must not forget about such a large association that is being formed, yes , while it is in many ways as economic. this brix, but any economic formation in the era of wars, it will definitely lean towards development, namely the armed forces , and whether we want it or not, well, believe me, brix will become one of those blocs that in the future, well, to what extent will it

resist the bloc it’s difficult to say for nato, but believe me, it will be that he will solve his interests, including from the point of view of the use of military force, otherwise in the current conditions, we said africa, get to africa and not defend it with some kind of with military arguments, what you are creating around is simply impossible. where did this pmc wagnerner come from, where do other private military companies come from, what are they doing there. french foreign region, we understand perfectly well that in africa , in order to create something and something, create, create, it must be protected and protected, because well, the development of the african conflict itself is so uneven, in one country , i say, you can literally meet from cannibalism to developed socialism, conditionally, yes, that is, literally in the neighboring and wild capitalism, without a doubt, is that the local armed.

conflicts, the fact that today there are regional armed conflicts, they are happening and the fact that they are becoming closer to us is also not accidental, because all these old abscesses that exist, precisely in the era of redistribution, interests, redistribution of spheres of influence, they are of course immediately, immediately, immediately began to manifest themselves, you look, even the same japan, which is bound today by various international treaties that imply something that they should not even have of its own... nevertheless, it developed its own defensive structure to the point that it became one of the strongest in the region and the question was immediately presented to china, north korea, and then the question arose about the disputed islands, as well like shinkaku, the same spratly islands, the same region of the paracel islands, that is , all this is primarily for the purpose of redistribution again: those results of the second world war, which were the division of drilling. it is clear

that the emergence of such a global player as china, this question immediately becomes either about the multipolarity of the world, which many people are talking about today, or, on the contrary, about dividing them into different spheres of influence, that is, some regions. and the question of creating polycentric states or polycentric unions, i think, is more pressing today than ever before. sharply the same china has surrounded it, in addition to the fact that it has allies, the same pakistan, well, one might say, russia today is becoming such a truly global partner, ally, pakistan, yes, north korea, without any doubt, with nepal there , well, look, everything else is basically a hostile circle, that is , we said today that we have the same

conflicts between china and india in the same region, by the way... this is an economic formation and an economic bloc, which is also not interested in the fact that china has developed there, pushed this organization into the background, an attempt to create az creation yes, and today the creation of the quad is the first, quad - this is where india, japan, britain, usa and so on, well, this is of course an interesting formation, because there they conduct some kind of joint exercises, some kind of formations, well, they seem to have not been formed yet, there is not even a charter for this organization, the next similar formation is suddenly alkus, only we noticed formation of an alcus is as if they already see themselves as such a family, a good family of anglo-saxons, having thrown the french out of there to the periphery, they create this alcus, which we, as we say, assume that this is this average, that this is an asian nato, yes australia... uh britain, the united states, the anglo-saxons, well, too, if

you look carefully, what documents do they have for the formation of this bloc, and it seems to me that the only documents we see are related agreements with the magat on the formation of exactly those necessary uh , regulatory legal acts in order to legalize at the beginning the deployment of nuclear submarines, and , in all likelihood, then the expansion of issues and the proliferation of nuclear weapons, and we see that those treaties that completely surrounded this australia on all sides, britain and the united states, having actually made them military-politically dependent on themselves, completely. but the most important thing is that it is necessary to look at how it is developing, i think that this is not so much connected , of course, it is connected with china as the most important player, but this is to move this china away from the global south, and the global south is not only what we assume with you is these are those developing countries or third world countries, as they used to call it before australia, yes, and this is primarily in forty

in the eighth year they cease to operate. all the agreements related to antarctica, and antarctica, just in case, is 28% of all the reserves of the globe, whoever breaks into this antarctica, whoever, as they say, receives all these reserves, will most likely be the one at this moment in time leader on our planet, and in order to push back , it is necessary, of course, to push aside first of all russia and, of course, china, these are the richest states, so i think that the development of all these local armed conflicts that are happening all over them they will also continue to increase, because we may already , under the guise of what is happening in ukraine, against the background of what is happening today in israel, we have actually forgotten what is happening today in the same yemen. where hundreds of thousands of people have already died, yes, what is happening today in the same africa , that is, recently nigeria, we heard about nigeria from everyone, niger and nigeria from every iron, well, niger, and nigeria, what it’s like, like the very state that seems to

control this region, and today we see that in fact there is silence, but the processes there continue , the french are already beginning to withdraw their troops from there, and this is, first of all, a continuation... the oppression of the last colonial power, namely france, then this world of neo-colonialism, what it should come to , here is globalism, where in neo-imperialism, that is, i say again that all of these in the era of wars, we will still become larger, larger in terms of regions, maybe larger in terms of civilization, because russia recently adopted its own completely new concept there , which specifically says that russia today is a state of civilization. from this point of view, it may be worth looking at, huntington raised this problem once upon a time, someone laughed at it, someone took it very seriously, and today we see that it really works, it really works and many works , many monographs that you take today and consider the prospects for the development of the globe are based on a civilizational approach, it is

within this framework that you need to clearly define what kind of civilization we are in, it has already been defined, but we must clearly understand this for ourselves, in what civilizational key... we must work, then this will give us the opportunity to develop our state, in order to understand, in general, because it is large, it can be seen from afar, this is what we need from afar really look, it’s not for nothing that we find ourselves and work with the csto, it’s not for nothing that we work with the highway, and i think that the prospect of brix also awaits, of course our state, china in this sense too, i think, is a state of civilization with its own rich history, so andrey evgenievich literally i recently returned from this... great country , i’m not afraid of this word, i would like to understand, from you first-hand, what special attention is paid in order to form stable positions in this unstable world? well, there are several directions, on the one hand, for the first time, probably

in the last 50-60 years, china is offering the world a global political alternative, it is called poetically in chinese, very beautifully, the community of fate, that is, no one should, based on the results of the creation of a multipolar world to be left behind, not to be left behind, to remain a colony, someone’s province, just a sales market, and everyone can contribute to the creation of a new world of order. secondly, china is trying to gather that very global south on a conflict-free economic platform, for which it was created 10 years ago , the global initiative of the chairman of the people's republic of china was announced, one train, one way, this initiative began simply as a sea and land communication channels for the european part of our common

mainland and south-east asia and china, naturally, that is, these were railway branches, two of which pass through our country. the republic of belarus, and it was a sea route, that’s why it took the route, but china very quickly realized that with such peaceful, economic, political initiatives, it could even survive in such a hostile environment and in the confrontation, economic for now and humanitarian, with the countries of the collective the west, that is, the united states and its satellites will not succeed, so china needs to build a network of humanitarian cooperation from latin america, from brazil, mexico, argentina, cuba, ecuador, to their closest neighbors, the same vietnam, it is necessary to build a normal dialogue with india, but it is necessary to build

high-speed highways, through laos, myanmar , to go directly to the coast, the indians. therefore, throughout these 10 years, china has been very consistently, very diligently, very delicately, taking into account the national interests of all countries, building this platform, one train, one track, as a result, now there is a train and a track on the platform, it started with thirty states, now there are already 150 countries and regional associations, that is, unions, is included in this initiative, in terms of the volume of global trade, in terms of human capital, in terms of the level of technological development, now deyura and de facto. this is the largest - the largest organization or initiative or platform and economic

political in the world, we took part in the belt and road analytical platform, in the belt and road journalistic platform, but taking into account the fact that in the all-china journalists association alone there are more than 1,200,000 there are another 21 million professional journalists, well, bloggers, streamers, and individual content creators, as we say mildly... our chinese colleagues say, it consists, but this is also the largest in the world and in general in the history of mankind, an association of journalists that has ever been united into one platform, and this is correct, because the european federation journalists, the international federation of journalists, who are now ignoring the position, in many ways, are trying to ignore the position of china, the position of the russian federation, the position of belarus, trying to discriminate against our colleagues and allies, including within the european union, this is bulgaria, this is greece, that is, those unions of journalists

who still have their own sovereign voice, and so the journalistic belt and road platform gives us the opportunity for new solidarity, allows us to determine the agenda ourselves, and not receive it from all these structures , whom we often call the soros , who simply impose this agenda on us in journalism, give us the opportunity you... nigeria, a very interesting alliance, with journalistic associations of the world, there nipal, laos, even such, for us they seem to be now exotic, but china is building a direct dialogue with them on solomon island, and this is an important point in the logistics corridors. i think we will talk about this later, but it seems to me that in many ways, an attempt

to take control of these transnational corridors, the delivery of goods, investments, technologies, human capital, is causing many of the conflicts here now. it’s interesting, in fact, how much attention is paid to the ideological component of china; just yesterday the head of state met with teenagers, this is the union of belarusian youth, these are all kinds of pioneer organizations, andrei petrovich, in your opinion, how important is it in the concept of national security, in particular , to pay special attention to issues of ideology and moral and ethical, probably even education, you know, sometimes you just ask a question, especially to young cadets there, maybe even officers: why should you defend your homeland? you know , to put it this way, this question is at a dead end, no, well, for some reason

, almost 80 percent, maybe more, all they definitely start talking about their family, about their home, so, in general, this ideological platform, the ideological component cannot be fully formulated, aspects that we also talked about here before the program, namely the ideological components in the same thing in china, ideological component and ideology that was in the soviet union, we are probably still at the very, very beginning of the path that if you ask anyone what you understand about the ideology of the belarusian state, he will immediately say with a standard one phrase: i will dominate and prosper belarus, in principle, all ideological aspects end there , in fact it is very deep, they say a lot: can a person be ideologically savvy on an empty stomach, but for some reason it comes to me... such things immediately came to mind, someone read how the steel was tempered, and how the steel was tempered, when in general people understood

they fought only for egegia, look, the twentieth year, the richer our house was, the more expensive the house, the more white leaves, why- that was on the windows of these houses, then what was called snowflakes, also such an interesting aspect, because when poverty ends, greed begins, it is this vacuum that should be filled with the ideology of transition that not everything is money, you will remember this match, which was the very first in the series, when canadians met in 1972, and together with our team, they were professionals, they were completely a team of millionaires, our guys just arrived, who at best had a allocated apartment, an apartment somewhere in multi-storey building and somewhere, most likely, also a car, but it was like a luxury, you will remember the security, and what we had in the end, we still had in the end, which... the idea, the idea, was still at the forefront these people, because there was an ideology, remember this

film, legend number 17, you are not defending the gate, you are defending your homeland. in many ways, the first thing we did right, and that the basis of our statehood and state ideology in general should, of course, be statehood, that any person, he is everything equally, in his soul he must be a statesman, we want it, we don’t want it, he must carry it in his heart, he must love his state, here we are talking about national security, the first document that was correctly selected like this, it’s heartbreaking he took, this is the constitution, where we first wrote down, so carefully, carelessly, about the great patriotic war, that it is precisely our ideology, the basis of the belarusian ideology that should come from there, from these holidays, like september 17, i’m sure, that next year it will become, well, a holiday day off, so that people feel it and are filled with an ideological ideological component , secondly, may 9 is a holy day, yes for us it is holy, but thanks to this day we have suddenly become strangers to everyone

neighbors around, except those who are, well, the fraternal russian people, well, even in the same ukraine, in the same... baltic states or poland, this holiday is already perceived ambiguously, or rather unambiguously, but from the other side, where everyone is destroyed these monuments are everything the rest, so of course, our ideology should be based on the memory of the past, we must love this homeland , you understand, no one else will give it away to us, you understand that today we talk a lot about cognitive wars, mental wars, because we had really irrevocable losses in this war, but those who escaped, those people of the world who were talked about, those who trampled belarusian flags and wanted the collapse of our state, all who fled to poland, lithuania and so on and so forth, you understand that these are already irrevocable losses of this very mental, cognitive war, unfortunately, these people, they are unlikely to ever be the

people who will help us build our state, if not in time. of course, to talk about this, yes, not everyone there is amazed, as they say, that is, without that, there are people who are still aware of many things, but today we need to fight precisely the ideological component within our state, it must be, without ideology, we will be dead, absolutely, we will not understand why we must defend our state, and this is already a very big problem, in an ideological sense, by the way, the world has split into two halves of those who support israel and those who support palestine, this is their... confrontation, just the other day a scandal literally broke out in connection with the statement of the head of the un, guterish, and his quote: the hamas attack did not happen out of nowhere, the palestinian people, for 56 years , have been subjected to a suffocating occupation, their hopes for a political solution, their plight, are fading. andrey evgenievich, what

do you think, why did they criticize regarding guterres, in fact, many... unjust, untruthful, fake said his speech, but he expressed, 56 years old, no, the political issue decided on the creation of a palestinian state, he did not justify the terrorist attack by hamas fighters and by the way, not only were there hamas members, this is also evidenced by israeli intelligence data. not the subsequent ultra-harsh indiscriminate bombing of the gas sector, what did he say wrong, me here in this sense, you know, what’s alarming is the participation of the same collective west, represented by the united states and satellites of the us military, in this whole conflict, interest, there is a simple

formula, look for who benefits, just recently, at the summit of the so-called g20, india, another one a new growing global center of power, announces the creation of its new transport corridor, which should lead from the ports of india to the ports of the european union, including holland, including germany, including southern europe, but in the narrowest possible way. this new transport route, which india and great britain claim, by the way, richa sunok, who says that this canal will be beneficial for us if it reaches london, the thames, the narrowest bottleneck is israel, this is

egypt, this is turkey, and these are arab countries. and amazingly, less than a month has passed since the announcement of this new strategic initiative, which would have made, in any case, europe. here is the european union, even, let’s say, more independent in economic matters from the united states of america, this arab-israeli conflict, or the palestinian-israeli conflict, or the conflict between the state of israel and hamas arises, precisely at the narrowest point, in which all the countries declared in this new transnational corridor are already involved. one way or another, look, egypt , which is facing the challenge, the need to receive millions of palestinians from the gaza strip, millions,

among whom a significant part will be young, armed and extremely exalted by the blows, muslim brothers and it will no longer be murse, yes, who was in egypt. such, well, at least outwardly good-natured, yes , an intellectual, a scientist, a person, of the muslim brothers, and this will be the radical wing of the muslim brothers, here 's a new fire in egypt, which he can cope with, but cannot cope with, among other things, egypt - this is a vanity channel, this is the modern bottleneck of world trade, israel, which is surrounded by essentially unfriendly... states that naturally side with the palestinians and the palestinian people and are in favor of resolving this conflict, these are arab

states, some of which, we will not name, but maintain close economic relations with israel, and some of which finance hamas with the other hand and host on their territory the very same... leadership including the hamas group, i will not now point a finger at these individual small, but financially very wealthy states of the region, because i did not want, well, in general, yes, we can speak very frankly about this, the same turkey, which, on the one hand, helped azerbaijan resolve the issue of territorial integrity, on the other hand, is exposed economically , politically... from the point of view of refugees, from the point of view of information wars, to continuous attacks, from the point of view of finance, i am sure that the collapse of the lira is not

a purely turkish problem, this is a problem that the turks threw up as an edification for the fact that you can’t be too sovereign and you can’t aim to recreate the new ottoman empire at a new technological stage, to promote your interests, including including, in the post-soviet region, if we take azerbaijan or the european union through the diasporas, they act so actively, so it seems to me that in this round of aggravation, the united states, or part of the american elite, which is trying to play on many boards, plays a very large role countries that are not interested in greater sovereignty. which, by the way, the republic of belarus and alexander lukashenko as president have always advocated on all platforms, even meeting with

american figures, and there as an adviser on national security, let us remember, and other people, and there alexander lukashenko indicated our position, we stand for the sovereignization of the policy of the european union of the largest countries of the european union, france, germany, the normandy format and the minsk agreements, we stand for the sovereign position of ukraine, which will not be an instrument of attack aggression against the russian federation and us, and it will be a sovereign player to benefit from this, we stand for the sovereign position of the gulf countries, african countries, and what there was something wrong with this, but yes, i agree in many respects, there is a new attempt coming from the world to build an imperial neocolonial order in the world, as an alternative to a multipolar world, more just, more

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