[000:00:00;00] i would love to find someone so that the ancient skill of the craft does not die out, roughly speaking, on the vine, but continues, no one wants to do this anymore, why do people need to ride a canoe, it’s easier for them to buy a boat with a motor, progress, in general , this is just gnawing at me, at best, what i hope for is that it will support the national park, we will revive this

craft. the president of belarus held talks with the governor of the vologda region, which is the largest industrial center in the northwestern region of russia. important areas of partnership, import substitution and industrial cooperation. belarus is ready for cooperation in absolutely all areas of industrial construction, supply of building materials and elevator equipment. the head of state proposed in each. key sector to identify several flagship projects, including livestock farming, agricultural processing, and the government will have to report the results of joint work every six months. about the multipolar world, the role of the eu, the situation in ukraine and bilateral relations. the president spoke on these topics today with the head of the foreign ministry. hungary. budapest has always been distinguished by its good policy towards our country, and peter szijarta is a frequent guest in minsk, and today he arrived in the belarusian capital to participate in

a high-level international conference. on eurasian security. this issue, the issue of security in the region and the world, is more relevant than ever, despite the current turbulence and unfair sanctions policy of the eu towards belarus, alexander lukashenko confirmed that he is an ardent supporter of the preservation of the european union. about whatever belarus and russia are not essentially closing themselves off from europe, it was said at a meeting between alexander lukashenko and russian foreign minister sergei lavrov, who is also the speaker of today’s large-scale forum. from the outside, minsk and moscow have strengthened cooperation and collaboration , which is already bearing fruit, trade is growing, technological sovereignty is strengthening, and while europe, to its detriment, is fencing itself off under the dictation of washington, we are thinking about development and security. alexander lukashenko intends to address a number of bilateral issues in the near future in a telephone conversation to discuss with vladimir putin. the fact that it was the nato state led by washington that provoked a serious security crisis on

the european continent was discussed today at a high-level international conference on eurasian security. hundreds of political experts from more than thirty countries of the world arrived at the forum in minsk. the geopolitical balance of power is changing and not in favor of the collective west; the european voice of reason is also in favor of restoring a civilized dialogue between the west and the east. hungary voiceover peace conditions in minsk. our position in this regard is unique and definitely does not correspond to the european mainstream. from the very beginning, it is very clear: the supply of weapons does not contribute to the establishment of peace, our goal is to achieve peace in our region because we would like to avoid further casualties, and the way to avoid further casualties is to make peace, and we do not see , so that the supply of weapons brings us closer to peace, so we stick to our decision not to supply any weapons to ukraine. in its turn, belarus proposes to hold summits to discuss the

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currencies in mutual currencies. our country is ready to participate as much as possible in the work of the sco interbank association, only through joint efforts will we be able to weaken the dominance of the west in a number of areas, reduce the negative effect of illegal sanctions and illegitimate restrictions. a memorandum of obligations of belarus in order to obtain the status of a member of the sco organization was signed in july, and today in bishkeki it was noted that the legal registration of such status for our country is at the final stage. the international forum belarus dairy is taking place in minsk. this year's theme is the new milk ero. the program includes current dairy market analytics, the most important consumer trends, issues related to left strategy and promotion to foreign markets, and the development of domestic consumption. in addition to tasting and new products from the belarus dairy forum industry, there is also an opportunity to make useful contacts. representatives of the agricultural sector

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. on air, a weekly socio-political talk show is essentially, today the focus of our attention is the following concept: how cognitive a war that is well known to our opponents, but little known to the general public in our country, what it is, how to fight it and whether it’s worth it at all, our competent experts are on the site, but as always you can become participants in the discussions, here is the qr code at the bottom of the screen, please , point your smartphone camera at it and join the discussion and broadcast on youtube, well, in the lower right corner there is a link to our telegram channel, where you can find out more about what is happening. well, let's immediately

define what cognitive elemental wars, it seems, are a topic that, well, should be discussed by people with a very high, very specialized education, but in principle this does not concern us, it turns out that it concerns very much, these same cognitive... wars are even conducted according to nato methodology already now, they are being waged 24/7, and the most important thing is that the weapon in this war is any person who opens information on any social network on their smartphone, you won’t believe it, in fact, a substitution of concepts, it’s very simple, let’s take the same ukraine, 10 years ago on may 9, it was a holy holiday, but now it’s just a date, and may 8 became a holiday, and if anything else. previously, the marshals of the soviet union who liberated ukraine were heroes represented by the same ukrainians, but now the heroes there are completely different, you know, there is bandera avenue in kiev, now he is a hero, this is called the civilizational war, when you are

10 years old, as it were without noticing how this is happening, you suddenly begin to understand that you have a completely different attitude towards this or that, well, like a story, thing and event, that is happening around you, the main platforms that are weapons of cognitive warfare are the media, you now find the second here - this is education , let’s talk about this igor, so in your opinion, while preparing for the program, i tried for a very long time to understand when the belarusians we started to feel this very cognitive thing, secondly, how to resist? i have a strong, well, opinion that we have constantly, in general, tried to change the meanings in our lives, it’s just that with the development of media and technology this is all significant

accelerated, and the scale, well, not a tragedy, but a problem, they significantly intensified with the development of social networks, all the information platforms there, and so on, and it seems to me that the further this process goes, the more acute this problem will become, because new technologies create new tools in order to change our meanings. the union collapsed, this is the story when the cognitive war was still able to replace the concept of a soviet man with a man of western civilization. yes, i could, and yes, this example. cognitive pressure, cognitive war, because at the moment, the biggest problem for the country that is undergoing such a cognitive attack is our own silence, because, well, in my opinion, there were problems in the soviet union, there were many achievements, but there were problems, it was not customary to talk about problems, because it’s impossible , someone else’s agenda bursts into this vacuum, in complete emptiness , it fills the mind, heart, thoughts, people about what is most important - jeans, chewing gum, and

so on, no, well let's just say that bursts in first under a very plausible pretext, voicing, among other things, the same problems, yes, and the person begins to think , yeah, that means there is a rational grain there, listen, the person will be forced to think so, because when they tell him, that this is good, nothing is given in the counterarguments, that perhaps it is bad, or maybe something else is good, there is silence, then? and he has only one option left, i’m talking about a person who is subject to media influence, not all people are like this, but there are many such people, with the development of technology, there are still many more people who make superficial conclusions, well , kirillo voiced that one of the platforms is education, yes, vladimir matveevich, i have a question for you as a military man, but how to a person who is involved in military education of different periods, after all, military universities are educational

institutions that educate people of a certain caliber, with a certain set of qualities, and i, of course, am not a very immersed person in this area, but to me it seems that, in principle, the officers there are from the times of the soviet union, from the times there of the nineties, now sovereign belarus, but due to some basic human qualities and values ​​that are brought up in them, they do not... communicate with the outside world, plus young people too, too wear jeans, buy chewing gum, on social networks, you are absolutely right, the core that the officers had in the soviet union, it... has been preserved, moreover, it has been preserved even in the early nineties, in the early

nineties and that generation, which were then and commanders, department heads, thanks to them it was not possible to finish off the army, a revival began in 1994, but when we speak, now the terms hybrid war, information war, cognitive war, mental war, conscientious war, of the latin word have been introduced into the political discourse consciousness, i always come to mind, remember, in my house, i ask you not to express yourself, a classic of soviet film comedy and nevertheless, 25 years ago we published several materials, they are in scientific sources devoted to this called concentration war, what is it ? this is war and weapons, respectively, which amaze the consciousness, there are very interesting works by doctor of psychological sciences yuri... gromyk, nina gromyka, well, your

humble servant, several of them, and for 20 years, almost before they started talking about it cognitive and mental wars, we called it concentration war and how to destroy consciousness, starting with damage to the neuro-brain substrate, how to poison the air, for example, or drugs, up to the elimination of the individual as such, the occult transfer of thought forms to the target of destruction, sounds, well, exotic and yet... such work is being carried out, the dissemination of images through communication channels that destroy the work of consciousness, in my opinion, about 15 years ago or 20 in japan after watching a cartoon, about 150 children fell ill with schizophrenia, schizophrenia is a divided consciousness, now they will tell you, this is all a conspiracy theory, it’s all too complicated, we ourselves have come to this, we ourselves have evolved to certain values, a conspiracy theory, it is no

coincidence that the pope... uh, in due time i advised catholics all over the world to definitely watch soviet cartoons, because they are good, especially films of the 60s , this is also one thing, colleagues, firstly, we have somehow shortened the history of mankind, the soviet union - quite recently, we started from what we started, first there was a word that the bible says, all wars are fought over resources, territories of the sphere of their interests, how to justify why we will drown babies? burn down villages take away a woman, experts write that the war, the war for territory for resources went on until the fourteenth year, then the first world war broke this consciousness, wait, wait, it went on all the same , i’ll explain once again that there was always a struggle for minds and brains, because the easiest way to manage is the masses that are united by some kind idea what unites muslims? the ability to die for god, jiha, do you understand or not, like the cross, what are the crusades? it was

the development of territory, the seizure of resources, the enslavement of peoples, but it was called that we advanced civilization, so there is always. there is a reason, there is a reason, we must tell the truth, you know, if we want to talk at least a little about something, about the essence of processes, naturally, in many concepts, ideological, religious, etc., there is a lot of humanism, in many ways there is an idea, but often these all ideas are generalizing, they are often also destructive in nature, so you need to be very careful with this, and my colleague is absolutely correct when he says that simply over time, approaches to this, especially take the intelligence services, there are entire scientific works, there is such old work soviet intelligence is called, yes, how simple it is, from coding, zombification, persuasion, suggestion, working with a person, with an audience, i tell you any event can be described in different ways, yes, and any media can, for example, a tour present zelensky to europe either as enjoying the support and love of europe or

begging all over the world, but give the appropriate sound background, picture and there will be completely different perceptions, so we are manipulated into understanding ours. most importantly, i finish so that you don’t interrupted, yes, so, i’m explaining, you need to understand who is working in your interests, everyone is manipulating you, all the media, there is no media that does not work with your consciousness, but who is the most motivated in relation to belarusians, so that you live better , we are belarusians, ourselves, our media, you and i were deceived that we need to close ourselves during covid and die of hunger, we worked in our own way. we were told not to build a nuclear power plant, we were convinced by all the competitors, i don’t call them enemies, it was simply unprofitable for them that a competitor will arise, will have cheap electricity and will supply it to their market, so they convinced us , so how to cleanse yourself, first, look at the background of those or messages working with you,

if you see that you have been talking about it for hundreds, decades that there are scammers, these scammers have become more frequent in recent months... in the media on the phone, well , listen, you already have a negative experience, or if you see that what you were told is the official, well, position and more -less coincides with what happened later, or the authorities are motivated to ensure that the course is normal, the economy develops in the country , peace, order, etc. are maintained, which means that these media, at least, even in some ways, manipulate information, they work in the interests of the country, but what you said is all for a thinking person, to analyze information, again, the world has transformed to such an extent that a person no longer needs to look for it, this information, for the most part, has become became it is possible to convince any citizen that it is enough to open the first resource that comes to you, you will read everything there, you don’t need

to compare any facts there, this is also the result of many years of work that was carried out, well, i don’t know, this is an ideology or someone else’s , call or cognitive war unleashed against us. andrey petrovich, well, if colleagues say that for many years, yes, even 20, 30, 50 years ago, it was all clear, obviously, and the well-known phrase that you want to defeat your enemy, raising his children, yes, this is from the same place, then why didn’t we somehow get our bearings in time, didn’t close in time, in the good sense of the word, and didn’t seize the initiative in time. well, in general, i am participating in this discussion, and here we are talking about the fact that cognitive war, hybrid war , mental war, fir-trees, a person is involved everywhere and i am participating everywhere, i would have served the slabs one in 3 years, a year in three , nevertheless, i would like to say that at one time rene

descartes said the following words, the famous french philosopher and mathematician, decide with the meaning of words and you will solve half of humanity’s problems. everywhere we say war, war, again, that’s what i said, but this is a classification, right, let’s go back to the original source, since these words, they are all borrowed, right or wrong, these are all formulations, they are borrowed, namely in the nato classification , and the fundamental documents are taken precisely from the united states of america, for example, there is a field charter for the ground forces fm30, which determines the procedure for waging modern wars by ground forces troops, operation. is called and there is a clear definition of what war is, and here i want to go back to carl von clausewitz, where there is a clear definition, war is nothing more than a continuation... the use of armed force, the same thing is written down by the americans, the same the most is written down

in nato documents, and it goes under the well-known formulation during, yes, war. then it gets even more interesting, they start cognitively in, hybrid, cognitively, hybrid, but it’s no longer vofa, but we still present it as war, and they have a clear definition of it, or a military action, and from here we call everything war everywhere, which in essence is not a war, it begins before this war, during the war and after the war, it all constantly exists, that is it constantly influences these very people, that is, it doesn’t matter, you don’t have to declare a cognitive war, it’s constantly going on , of course, well, if it were a war, and of course it was, what does this include, they have already gone beyond this nato thing, they today they talk... about leading multi-domain wars, many domain wars, well, a domain is a sphere, a sphere, so they are fighting in five fundamental spheres, land,

sea, air, space and cyberspace, now the sixth, and cyberspace, in all of this they assume what exactly should there should be two components, this is the physical component, where kinetic weapons are used, and the second is just the cognitive component, that is, it permeates all these spheres, this is not a separate domain, but this is a domain, and this is that the sphere affects all of these these are the very elements, and this is clearly defined in all legal acts , and this very cognitive war that we are talking about, or cognitive confrontation of oneself, includes several elements, this is an action in the information, cybernetic sphere, this is an action in the social sphere and action in the psychological sphere, and the main thing that is aimed at, we understand, is society, a person acts in society, he exists there in this society, and the impact on this society on a person, it

should be first on consciousness on the subconscious and human emotions, and emotions are highlighted separately as the most effective sphere in which one can influence, that is, a person must constantly experience guilt, fear, satisfaction there, and so on, the most important thing that always paralyzes consciousness is fear, you need to intimidate a person, so we see what is happening there today, between... and palestine, and often why we say that the physical and cognitive, they must act in combination, if they act separately from each other, it is unlikely that you will you will intimidate someone, because they exist to be afraid, when a missile arrives, they begin to be truly afraid that there is nowhere to hide today, look, andrei petrovich, i ’ll just try to explain once again what cognitive warfare is, sometimes this is an impact with the help advertising, commercial advertising, very often the customers of cognitive research were transnational corporations, which, in principle... produced some kind of product and wanted it to be bought all over the world, that is, in fact, humanity

had to leave their national characteristics, buy the same powder , drink the same lemonade, and in fact people really bought the same coca-cola in this way, bought a certain shampoo, but at the same time we are here when in the soviet union they saw it, they bought it, they thought that we were reaching for freedom, this is cool, i have a question, well, there are certain ones, but now we may not have very smart conversations about what if you are a liberal and you have western values closer then you in principle, you succumbed to this cognitive war, but if you, well, are a traditionalist, a conservative and somewhere more, as you say, a house-builder, then you did not succumb to this war, alexander vladimirovich, tell me, we have the influence of the west, in some way sociological research can be measured, we have some kind of attraction towards the european union, towards america, but again this is such talk for the poor, yes, sociology allows us to measure the relations of the potential foreign policy orientation

of the population, well, you can ask something like this question, this is what you think, with which states or with which geopolitical regions is it beneficial for us to continue cooperation , strengthen relations, but in our opinion, again, that is, this may be some kind of one-time piece of information, which may change, then further take the form of some kind of dynamics, but in my opinion, this is the most... important category that can distinguish us from the west, this is, first of all , value orientation, again, this is what we recently held at the institute of sociology research that concerns the value orientations of the population of belarus, here is such a three-factor structure, a three-factor structure that determines the value consciousness of our population, these are health, family and children, that is, family values, health, it is the fundamental constructors that affect us even - in a way they can distinguish ... from western countries, again, uh, the same celebrations of family holidays, putting some meaning into them, there the population was asked this question, that’s how you

do you prefer to celebrate certain national holidays there? national, yes, first of all, in the family circle, in one’s own circle , where we have such communication, communication between, if we look, again there is the same western, western idea, the same ideology, this is first of all individualism, propaganda of some kind of individual behavior and some kind of idea of ​​contrasting oneself with society somewhere, in our case, in our opinion, here are professional sociologists, that after all, our society, thank god that it it’s healthy, it’s collectivist, it’s traditional, we’ll see, yes, that one way or another the plot revolves, even american-made, we’re always around something that i don’t know

, something is scheduled for the 4th of july, someone is going somewhere, someone is going somewhere there, someone is meeting sometime, and just like there , it just recently caught my eye, and the usual, pink, what is called melodrama, but in the center of the plot there is a military man, it is very subtly told about , that yes, now you guys are in iraq, but you will go further, yes, to serve the homeland to protect its interests in other states, i’m in iraq, to ​​defend the homeland of the americans, and i smiled so much, the film, by the way, is quite old, that is, it’s obvious. that what is happening, and what is being broadcast in this mass culture, is slowly preparing, well, public opinion, we unfortunately do not use this tool, it is somehow ignored, and what we are talking about is about emotions, about values ​​and some basic points, but for some reason we don’t defend them, as if, again, talking about

cognitive warfare, we must say what is most obvious on the surface. two things that they are trying to tell us, this is what lies on the surface , regarding the fact that we are not protecting, i’m just explaining, so that you have the resource to protect, you need to control financial flows and the resource, those who have more money, control technology, technological superiority, they have a great opportunity, other films are being made now, today in cinema there must be a transgender person or a person suffering from a disorder. hobbies, preferably a couple of people with disabilities, and accordingly, well, i can say it differently, why should we, we have different tv viewers, and there are also racial and other aspects, today a beauty contest must be won by some man who has shaved well put on a palik, these are the ones we have, but this is how you will impose, belarus film will compete, bridge film, what kind of sales we have there, but we are trying

to defend these values ​​on our territory, starting from the history of the formation of... the state now it's a good movie removed, well done, yeah, ending with questions related to values ​​and so on, but you understand, today they, everything goes, remember, everything comes from the economy, the economy allows you to have superiority in technology, in the armed forces, allows you to influence, because money , power, territory, everything, everything else is a technique for seizing territories and peoples. and so on, so it’s true, when they tell you, there is a reason for any event, there is a reason, they will tell you a fairy tale, it’s bad there, someone is offended, this is a reason, but what is the goal, geopolitical influence, conquer the territory, that’s all, so in this case, this is what we’re talking about, i’ll finish, alena, we need to develop the most efficient economy, a strong economy that will be competitive in the external market, attractive to third countries, so that we can unite,

we had resources, resources will allow us to strengthen our military power and... who will develop your economy , only we can develop it, but tell us about our very values, yes, that we are talking about, they will be enough to to survive, it’s true, well , look, i say again, our tv viewers must understand one very simple thing, that any war, whatever you call it, informational, mental or whatever, is a war of meanings. the task of our opponents, or... to make us a spiritual chernobyl, you know, we now , our state is holding on, thanks to you and me, the people, those who are watching this program today, family values, family values, they must understand a very simple thing that today the image of meaning that is formed with the help information, we all have access to information, these are the means of this

very war or information confrontation, i agree with my colleague, but that’s not all, worldviews, worldviews and worldviews, these are the three fundamental things that we actively have today exists and operates, this is our foundation, the traditional center: absolutely right, a traditional family, i emphasize, not something, somehow, but a normal father, strong and courageous, an intelligent, beautiful, economic wife, that’s what we wrote in the constitution, that is, there is very interesting fragments, but that’s not all , colleagues, this is the tip of the iceberg, you and i are talking about the mood of the minds today, this is what moves our country and makes it independent, who will defend the country today, our country, the earth , you and i, our children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, my grandchildren and my children, because they were raised on the basis of traditional family values, that’s what it’s about, svetlana nikolaevna, can i ask you a practical question, we open

the belarusian instagram, we find, for example , the page of the girl who posts almost every day, how she drives an expensive car, drinks champagne and talks about how she is flying to the maldives, at the same time, she talks about how the president gave him a bag of potatoes, how to convince people that a bag of potatoes is cool, and champagne and the maldives are not there, well, it’s not clear at all, there were the maldives and champagne, it doesn’t matter, but it works , this is it, this is the story, you know, this is the story that it tells, this is what’s important, yes, this is the material basis , which, but this is the relationship of the individual to that reality, understand, there is a psychological war going on here, that is, as colleagues correctly... they said the calculation is on our mentality, on the core, svetlana nikolaevna, sorry to interrupt you, but let’s go back to the base, kiril gave the example of the soviet union and

advertising, and jeans, pepsi, coke and so on, what seemed to us, well, the inhabitants of that time, was a new fashionable great thing, that having this, we become, as it were, better and more progressive, this was already then, you know , it started, so that’s why, why don’t we it’s inherent, i don’t know, on a mental... level, or something, to value what’s yours and be proud of what’s yours, what we have is the most important mistake, i explain, you can’t just do it in the spiritual and moral sphere compete, i explain to you why the soviet union collapsed, because you sang the anthem, put on neckties and dreamed of yugoslav boots, and stood in line for 10 years for a car and could not build an apartment, everyone wanted to live, so there must be an effective competitive economy, competitive, efficient standard of living. therefore, the union burned on hypocrisy, i tell you again, on hypocrisy, i remember it all, on

hypocrisy, because there was a club, people who could afford it, those who traveled abroad, those who were with the regional committee, and so on , the rest sucked paws, that’s all, it’s true , so i lived well, yes, the fact is that even remembering that time, the first priority was those workdays that were, that is, what we did, our family, everything the same thing, he gave an example, he said that an officer of the soviet union, an officer there independent belarus, i’ll talk about military people now, but people didn’t run , despite the fact that it was bad there, but they left the army in... years, but there were very small salaries at that time, but people stayed, and the technical equipment was, to put it mildly, not very good, which means something else was holding them back, and this is not obviously fear for losing their

job there, let me also support my colleague regarding the sphere of meaning, because everything is correct, all wars - this is, at their core, a sphere of meaning, and not just economy, not only economics, because what is happening now, if we talk about the same soviet union, yes... nuclear weapons remain, but there is no state, there is no state, so the problem is in theory, the problem is in the socio-humanitarian content, the problem is that in the sixty-first year that previous leadership committed the most terrible treacherous action, which means, in essence, an action when they adopted the cpsu program to catch up and overtake the united states of america in consumption, the best minds in europe on this matter said, what are you doing, you are ahead the whole planet except one. well, that’s what won, because there wasn’t enough chewing gum and jeans, you know, well, there wasn’t enough , and that’s when they proclaimed not the highest values ​​and so on, because the sixties

, remember, this was once the generation of the sixties, it went to explore virgin lands, it i admired gagarin, they sang songs on mars, there will be apple trees, and 30 years later, these sixties - it was already a different mentality, yeah. why did vladimir kostyukhin break akudzhava’s record, it was exactly in 2003, when the execution actually parliament and the nineties. the year when the shooting of parliament means that some people said that they were experiencing aesthetics, not only the economy, but the economy too, and the economy is very important, gorbachev’s mistake, why the union fell apart, he began simultaneously political and economic reforms, he had to first preserve strong power and control of ideology, transform the economy

, following the example of china. considering the fact that low oil prices, got involved in the wrong place in afghanistan, then incorrectly brought troops into the field from germany, there were many mistakes, but the most the main thing is that you cannot simultaneously, without building the economy, having a weak economy, begin political reforms, here is a mistake, an example , if today you are without economics and ideology, you will not achieve anything either, we are now before we go into advertising, and advertising as we remember , this is a weapon of mental warfare, ask the tour the same question as yours, with a sack of potatoes from the president, defeat the belief that a good life is moyot and mozy, so we have already won, i believe that with a sack of potatoes defeat the illusion of a problem-free, cheap , wonderful life it’s impossible and there’s no need to try, despite the fact that, of course, for me a sack of potatoes from the president is much more valuable than a trip to dubai, but i agree that the economy is still critically important for meaning, which is what the western model offers

- cool, a lot of money, we get high, relax , for this we need a lot of money, so when we promote our narratives about values, family, and everything, we should also talk about the fact that in our coordinate system you can also be financially successful maybe it's completely different way, it’s not necessary to go with some old man to the same maldives or somewhere else, but this can be done in the system of government, in the system of functioning of the country too, accordingly we must show people, so i remembered friday’s meeting with the head of state , he started it just

like that. that he explained to everyone present that he understands the concept of strategic projects, in my opinion, this is a very necessary step at the moment, because often, the expectation and reality depend on how the assigned tasks are completed does not coincide precisely because the one who gives the order means one thing, and the one who implements this receipt of the order understands how... returning to our topic to what andrei petrovich said in the first part, about , that our comrades from nato have, there are very precise definitions, i have a question: maybe somewhere our problem of not succeeding in this confrontation, in some moments, is connected with the fact that just they themselves have problems with understanding, so

now even everyone present here... if we ask what everyone puts into the concept of traditional values , spirituality, everyone will name something different, some will agree, some will not, but in principle we understand differently , but there is no clear general definition, why there is, well, look, firstly, did you notice how the first part of the program went, we were purely on the defensive all the time in this cognitive war, we were defending something, we were waiting for someone to... then there will be an impact. we have already given the initiative to the enemy, even during our transmission. but there are two components. one is defensive, and the other is offensive, influencing. so, the same thing applies to this cognitive war. if we have something like this, we don’t use such terminology. she, i say again, she is borrowed, yes, she is philosophical in many ways, from us. we have such an understanding as information warfare. this is a component that provides one of the

national spheres. one of the eight, well, in the future, of the nine areas of national security, this is information security, that’s it it includes this information confrontation, two directions, one is we influence the enemy, and the other is we protect our people, our population, decision makers, everything else, it simply cannot be otherwise, the fact that we are conceding in some technologies, you know, well, probably hardly, well, i still say , we have a psychology, we must defend ourselves, we do not act proactively, we gave the initiative, unfortunately, only now, after the twentieth year, have we come to a true understanding , what in you won’t have to sit in the trenches of this war... look, andrei petrovich, i agree with you that we really have a ministry of defense, we have a defensive position, we really aren’t trying to attack anyone, but this is what it seems to me: that we did take steps towards cognitive warfare, for example, we opened the borders for our

neighbors, come and look, we declared september 17 a public holiday, really stepping on the poles’ toes, that is, we have such a history, we really do. .. a little more seriously treat the fact that, well, as they say, if you agree with everyone, it’s like you’re weak, as soon as you start saying something, they immediately begin to disrespect you, one point so that they don’t miss it, first, wrong assessment current situation leads to incorrect. everyone, what happened in the twentieth year, and we, at the level of the head of state, discussed the fact that on the internet we are losing, that officials start their day on the wrong sites, today, today you and i have a significant technological basis, a number of platforms

we don’t control, we need to significantly strengthen our satellites, now , thank god, russia is launching a new satellite, a whole series of other things, so we need to understand where we are stronger, for example, hypersonic weapons, now there is a new missile... they well done and so on, but where are we falling behind? it’s precisely in the conduct of cognitive warfare that hollywood has a much greater reach, social networks are all american, practically vkontakte lags behind, okay, vadim, we state this, so the question is, what should we do? understand, and today we need to create products correctly, this high-tech park, if we were able to create our own viber, because we created it, we could create vkontakte, telegram, here is a person who left for another country, and millionaires who did not receive this money they will lose here, they will invest, they will create a product that on the world stage, you understand or not, we need to do this, alena, that we have created a product, is it a competitor to youtube today? that’s just about it, look at how on youtube they influence

us, and limit us and about youtube, that’s all just like, well, not our sites, we have our own space, if we remember the friday meeting, the head of state, among other things... said that there are some officials there, for example, ministers, who submit reports that are not entirely truthful, to put it mildly speaking, in order to present ourselves in the best light, when we talk about the war for meanings , there is a very big temptation to slightly embellish the power of the weapons that we actually have , and having embellished it for the sake of, so to speak, reporting to the top, after a while you will believe in it, we have there are newspapers, we have radio, we have something on the internet, but this is also the case if you understand that it can come in an hour to check what to check, you understand, and here it is important to understand who we are deceiving by deceiving someone else

, we can easily deceive in cognitive warfare, the concept of propaganda is when you create conditions and, let’s say, push people into action. cognitive warfare is when a person himself acts as someone once told him . they understand, they study the social masses, society for some group of the population, and here you are. you just open your phone, it’s written to you, everything is bad in belarus, and you’re like, yes, everything is bad, and there’s a march on the street in 2020, well, that’s right, it turns out that all social networks know more about us than we know about ourselves imagine that we wrote all this down there, so we get this situation in which we are the ones who begin to be manipulated with the help of these social ones. if you don’t think that none of you is acting from the outside, then a professional is working with you, dear colleagues, we are saying that we have

a public education system, educates everything, people, parents, teachers, everything that happens around you, you understand , here you are, after all, in the studio a person who operates with facts, yes, we are all about philosophical meanings here, we understand perfectly well that some, well, let’s say so, pushing belarusians to crimes, but somewhere, of course, it starts at a young age through cartoons, and somewhere it’s very tough, go blow it up, this is also an element of cognitive pre -intimidation, tell us about it, i absolutely agree with you , really one of the forms cognitive... mutual influence on the minds of our citizens - this is exactly the form of such a cognitive war - this is when people are convinced to commit crimes, well, for a just cause and for what is right.

cases, we have already repeatedly brought to the attention of citizens, unfortunately, such facts continue to occur when citizens receive calls on their mobile phones, they are convinced to take out a loan there or sell an apartment, uh, subsequently, the funds are deposited into some accounts , and after a person, well, he finds himself in a situation, either they didn’t give the loan, or he deposited the money into a bank account and still... doesn’t return it, he receives an offer to commit some radical actions, in fact, people are involved in this illegal activity, well, really using radical actions to set fire, blow up , that’s right, this, right here, the topic of our discussion today is precisely this impact on a person’s psychology, they are convinced of the need to take some actions in order to show either their importance, to attract attention, or to deceive, to lead him... to deceive him and so that he commits some

illegal actions, motivating that this is some kind of investigative experiment or some kind of test, convincing that the person will not incur any responsibility for this, look here , but maybe i don’t follow the reports very carefully, but i don’t remember something that in the last few years there, back there about five or six years ago, and the same scammers lured money out and then asked them to go set it on fire the car, for example, was mine the day before a colleague was just talking about such a case in a material, now the closer to the electoral campaigns, the higher the degree of this political and military tension outside our country, the higher the degree of this blackmail, you know, before they only extorted money, now they push their own citizens for crimes, it seems to me that next year there will be even more of them. i will say that this is probably a cynical approach that malicious people use when working with

our citizens, uh, because these are the actions that our citizens commit under under the influence of deception, buildings are set on fire, car windows are broken, they film this on mobile phone cameras, and accordingly, as proof of the commission of these actions, they send them to their so-called curators, and subsequently the curators post these... videos on their telegram accounts, well, criminal ones, and with these videos they start promoting themselves in front of each other, look how i tricked such and such a person into committing such and such a crime, no, and then they can post that the belarusians are going to beat there, i don’t know, glass will last as it is further and so on, well, of course, as a certain tool, as a lever of influence on the masses, as on the psychology of people, it can of course be used, but at the moment we are talking about the fact that this is being done for the sake of a certain pr, but of course, if there are people

who are ready, under the influence of deception, under the influence of some kind of psychological influence , to commit such actions, this gives us reason to think that, well, this is an alarming bell that it is necessary to work more with the population and warn them about such forms and look, we are talking about crimes, and alena also touches on the fact that the closer to the elections, the more tense society is, let’s say, there is such a concept, it ’s not in the cognitive one, the theory of a social laser, when on some problem, well, relatively speaking, through the media the focus of attention decreases, and the group begins to somehow produce very large numbers there, i don’t know, write there, call, that is, roughly speaking , they rock the boat, there is such a concept in the west as an index of human happiness , we have it it is measured, as it were, as an index of happiness, namely the state's contentment, this is how you look at where and how problems can arise in belarus, or do you have some kind of summary regarding welfare and well-being there?

yes, there are different categories of sociological issues and different approaches to this dimension, this is, of course, a feeling of one ’s material well-being, confidence in the future, but there is also one such component, what we talked about today, including what it all means, how it takes the form of war meanings, another very important question is the personal self-identification of the person himself, that is, precisely the feeling of pride in his country, a feeling. that is, what for you to be directly a citizen of the republic of belarus, of course, there really are very high marks there - this is an indicator of having a passport and a citizen as a form of self-identification, but the next category is knowing how to respect the history of your country, and directly when exactly there is respect for the history of your country , her knowledge and pride, because again these are memorable dates, memorable holidays, strictly speaking, are something good, positive, on which... on the basis of which education is formed, on the other hand , our potential enemies, analytical

centers, as this happens, the so-called decoding of value consciousness, an attempt on history, an attempt. that is, knowledge of history is our main defensive reaction now, and even more so we need to take into account the fact that people are proud of their history, again, again, what andrei petrovich spoke about, a defensive reaction, a super idea, meaning, the main one, then for the sake of why certain actions are performed by a person, by a state, if we are talking about the united states of america, yes, they will make america great again, if we talk about the russian federation, well, what is it russian... they have their own vision of themselves, feelings in this world. china is exactly the same. belarus is a young independent state. we very often here try to crystallize this national idea of ​​ours. i don’t know if it can be compared with this super-idea with meanings, but it seems to me that

if we globally understand what stands above all some possible economic problems, some misunderstandings, what you said about china, that they have their own way, their own special, yes, why they managed, from , well, let’s say, not the best times, to become great, with their own firewall and straight to vadim , he says economics, first of all such a thought appeared, but where are these economic criteria from which point in the development of the economy will we start? act more actively, where is it, how to determine the amount of maldivati ​​champagne, well, let's just say, for some it is the main ones, you were arguing here about galoshi, yes, about the second economy in the world, why it collapsed, that is, there are a lot of controversial issues, but nevertheless, nevertheless, china, yes, the socialist state, the leading

role of the communist parties, that is in all likelihood, all those very shortcomings have gone away, and in addition to those very shortcomings that have gone away, they also correctly, or rather correctly , built their internal foreign policy, a state such as china, by and large, today has solved many internal problems, yes , they have both digitalization and the digital revolution is everything, and the rating system is being built, that is, is it good or bad, probably time will tell, look how competently they maneuvered, being a communist country between the west and the east, well, conditionally , the west and the east, yes, that is, how competently they maneuvered, look, they are convincing that this is the very platform that will allow for further development, will give impetus to the development of economic progress, and the united states and europe kept investing money there, by and large, returning again, this today it is essentially becoming the first economy in the world, the west is alarmed, they understand that today problems arise, how to deal

with this same china, all conceptual documents state that russia is a priority task, and china is a long-term task, but in this all these documents define the ultimate goal, that they must win and deal with one another before the thirtieth year, of course, this is the super idea, it’s also interesting, if we look at the nato documents, they have an interesting description of how it works the russian army and how, for example, the chinese army operates, here is the russian army, well, to put it simply, but rapidly non-stop day and night until the enemy is completely defeated, in general, catch up with a butt on the head to kill the enemy, this is clearly spelled out, and china is soft power everywhere , from the outside, go, look back and forth, that is, if we turn to some old ones, this petrovich, well, soft power needs money, i agree with vadim here, without this the answer to belarus, i’ll explain, you

should never compare small and middle states with russia, one moment, listen, we, i’ll tell you a secret, somehow, even at the highest level, we once conducted such a survey , even between such serious people, yes, which way is better, just think like that, well , so anonymously, yes, there were different opinions, it was a long time ago, about eight, probably 10 years ago, i want to tell you this, we had to be very careful even in identifying certain aspects, because we have a very, let’s say , we had to weave very thin lace so as not to get caught, and now sometimes we may need to wait, identify some aspects a little later , but somewhere we can’t allow it anymore, but once again, what’s the problem, if we’re talking about

this global center of gravity, which the russian federation could become, position has not been formulated. when we sail on this big ship, an empire is not enough, there were a lot of empires that rotted in history, the chinese empire, the roman empire and so on, where are we going, why and why not? belarus is clear, we... formulated the basics, look, we have done a lot, by the way, largely in parallel with the russian federation, traditional values ​​have been written into the constitution, we don’t have any perversions in our families anymore , i hope there will never be, that means, a normal attitude towards women, towards to a man, to a child, to the army, the patriotic war unites us, that is, the value is a whole series of values, but there are certain aspects, you understand, we cannot suddenly rush like that, because they do not give us, listen, there is a resource, an opportunity, so when the economy, china acted very competently, it was he who exploited the alliance, and when the americans needed an ally in the form of china , they bought china, gave them their market, and china grew

at the expense of the american market, it’s true, it’s china, the americans lost the vietnam war at one time, china , and then china became more independent, the same thing and warsaw in due time will behave much more independently. vadim, vadim, all because national interests are at the forefront, something about which alexander grigorievich should also not be, not about not about the kyrgyz, not about the vietnamese, not about the russian, not about the american, national politics, rushing into radicalism, denying, relatively speaking, excuse me for using your example , mine is from the maldives, that there is mazaration, yes, we give to our opponents opportunity to say,

look. there is no need to deify all these values, there is no need to deify them, but you need to properly explain that if you have earned honestly, if you have paid taxes, if you love your fatherland and are not ready to sell the country for a foreign car, then you can. i'm a utilitarian question i’ll ask, forgive me, in fact, just because the program is ending, i always want to know what we should do, we as journalists and you as experts are on the edge of this war, and very often they tell us to slow down somewhere , always when they say, he doesn’t slow down azaryonok, but he seems to be liberalizing the tour, igor, i completely disagree with this. i wrote about this 100 times that if grisha is sleepy, you’re just like a sniper rifle, so

the question is: where should we stop or not? stop, and the worst thing we can do is to adopt one of the ideologies of the world hegemons and try, in order to exalt ourselves a little internally, to become attached to it, which is what many small and medium-sized states do, we are a relatively small state, located between the hegemons , our strategic task is to preserve sovereignty, i once reviewed davich, the best quotes from alexander lukashenko, in 2020 he said, among other things, the following: your president, whom you was elected a long time ago, will never be the last, this is the main goal of our existence as a state, we will not achieve this by calling for this alone, so that the majority of people understand that our main task is to preserve sovereignty... sometimes for this we need to take a step back in economic goods, consumption there, and so on. if people are doing relatively well with the economy

, everyone lives plus or minus well, then they will give up something more, with greater consent, for the sake of sovereignty, if people live worse, the economy will work worse, then it will be more difficult to convince this number of people that the main thing is sovereignty; people living poorly will be more likely to fall for someone else’s ideology. can i come to you? the question is also practically the same historical: when you come to any caucasian country, no matter how badly they live, they will always take up arms when war comes. take ukraine, everyone who fled to the west is people who live well and are always thinking about how to avoid a trip to the front, here they say that these are the traditions that they unite around themselves, clans, history , everything else, traditions are alive in the caucasus, in ukraine. they turned out to be not alive, so this is how to preserve it, you know, and they don’t always live well there, but they are ready to give up even the fact that they live well in order to protect

their country, well, this is a question of religion and this is a topic so that we contrast the normal life and normal ideology, this is, well, this is idiocy, let’s do it, i’m more the most important enemies of belarus are fools, these are the most important enemies, a scumbag and a traitor, he in second place is the enemy himself, listen, let's go on air, live , live, let's not voice stupidity, we are for a normal economy, for a healthy ideology, we are our worthy citizens who have endured so many wars. revolution chernobyl, we have enough of suffering, i want our belarusians to live with dignity, to have a normal economy, their children to eat well, to be dressed, as it is now, and we must preserve this, now the problem is, the needs are the problem, the need must be brought up , because the pyramid has reached its highest peak, there are state interests that were talked about here, this is important, and yes you need

to have those, just like here there is the problem of china, the parosel islands, the spratly islands, shinkaku, and kashmir, the uyghurs, a mass, a mass of enemies, irreconcilable , there are very wise words, and we should never never forget them, we don’t choose our neighbors, we really need to constantly look for this balance of power, but i say it again, but at the same time we need the core that we have, the one who is strong inside, it is very difficult to shake him, this is true, i think that this is the opinion of everyone who was present at our discussion today, in one way or another in different words, but we all understand perfectly well that if we are convinced of something, if that

- something that is really important for us, something smaller and less important for us, what is important for belarus , they said a lot here, is our independence, which we acquired not so long ago, but all the more valuable, the underground won in the soviet union, you know why, because he was not like habitually, it seems like we have come out of stereotypes, which means we need to create more stereotypes so that it seems to us that this is