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after all, the secret of music is that it finds an inexhaustible source of expression where speech falls silent, music instead of a thousand words. information and analytical project current microphone on air on the belarusian radio and tv channel belarus 24, with you the presenter andrey

owl, as well as our guest, social and political figure pyotr shabko, we are discussing the most current news that has recently actually affected almost each of us from a completely different angle, we will look at these circumstances, events, who is behind them from different angles , and how they will further develop. peter, time has come out against zelsky, such a weekly times magazine, with a provocative cover, experts are already calling it an information bomb, supposedly inside. on the basis of anonymity, a source from the environment zelsky talks about how this political character is not all right with his awareness of reality, including, he says that we all understand perfectly well, meaning those around him, that everything is bad at the front, everything is sad with that notorious counter-offensive, but says: try telling zelsky about this, including quite interesting...

facts that there were, say, orders regarding the capture of gorlovka, to attack the ukrainian troops, but many refuse, including even when the command comes directly from zelsky’s office, the military apparently began to understand that empty-handed it is not particularly promising to carry out such actions at the front, what do you think about this , firstly, on the situation on the territory of ukraine itself, secondly, on the cover, on this information bomb, because that we understand perfectly well that there could only be two options , either this is political lobbying, which is quite developed in the united states, or this is some kind of economic, let’s say , interest... if we talk about the state of affairs at the front, then everyone it is absolutely clear, first of all to the sponsors of this conflict, that the offensive so-called operation of ukraine failed , that is, it did not take place in principle,

so to speak, the successes that were achieved by the ukrainian side can be called very, very successful labor, this certainly does not lead to some kind of large-scale offensive, which is ononsiroed. accordingly, the political scores of those forces that predicted the victory of ukraine are falling sharply not only in ukraine itself, but in the west, this makes some adjustments to the internal affairs of the western, these spheres of influence, respectively, and the reaction to ukraine in the west begins to change, that is, to the very fact of the existence of a center for the amounts that were spent and the result was not achieved, and if we are talking about this article, then already apparently a clear signal to the ukrainian

side, primarily zelsky, that its position in the west is beginning to change dramatically, but as for inadequacy, excuse me, the combination of two types of drugs, power and real drugs, may well produce very very serious disappointments, well, look, even outwardly he has changed very seriously, if you compare his video, for example, with the inauguration with the current state, but it’s just like two different people, if we were on the territory of ukraine, we could say that he was replaced, this is a double-triple, as they like in relation to alexander lukashenko or vladimir putin, yes, well, i can say here, as in some way an expert, that is, as a chairman. a city without drugs, a person who leads such a life is constantly under the influence of narcotic substances, it changes very quickly, the body degrades, the brain degrades , the psyche degrades, now i remember , a very interesting picture used to circulate

on the internet, they compared addicted people before and after use, how appearance changes from using drugs, it seems to me that this is quite popular in such an environment as '. when you talk to young people, including demonstration material, what you mean is, well, colossal changes in appearance, and i i think that based on these signs we can also draw certain conclusions. yes, that’s right, it is clear that zelsky himself was not initially an independent figure, that is , he is actually a puppet set up by certain forces, primarily western, this is the way of life, getting out of control of his bosses, he, of course, cannot evoke any positive emotions among his sponsors, well, probably, this article and this cover gave him a clear signal, so that probably the last warning about putting

a person in his place, if he does not heed, if he continues to behave inappropriately, that is , apparently, to disobey in some matters, then it is possible that some more severe factor of influence, you know, given that the head ukrainian state today is a professional comedian, then the entire political system there looks approximately or is built in the same direction, i mean, this famous comic character, who is known to everyone by the phrase, how many missiles are there left for 3 days, mr. aristovich , he spoke out in general with ardent criticism of zelsky recently, as far as i understand, the territory of ukraine... whether he left or not, well, i don’t have exact data, but he is so harsh - now he has gone into opposition, let’s say this politician, which causes fears, including for the life of aristovich himself, because we remember what happened to the negotiators of the contact group who came to belarus and

defended the position of the negotiations, and so aristovich said that this article sentences zelsky to solitude and trial history, to loneliness, to blame, for which he has no one but himself. i liked the phrase about the judgment of history, well, history will judge everyone, including aristovich, uh, as for the actions directly. and aristovich, this is one of the very factors that changes the internal elite’s attitude towards the ruling elite, that is , directly, first of all, towards zelensky. in principle, it is absolutely clear that as soon as everything becomes tougher, it will be merged all at once. well, you know, it feels like zelsky sensed that same wind changes that are blowing in the ukrainian political space, because well, society.

it seems to me that the ukrainian has not yet reflected on what happened regarding the counter-offensive, because a lot was associated with it and they said that without fail, it should end directly with a victory over russia, practically there is a ukrainian flag over the kremlin with a promise of crimea , at least yes, but now it turns out that only the number of cemeteries has increased, these are the same ones, the financiers from blackrock are offended, they say, we agreed on something else, but you now you bury people in useful black soils, we... that’s not what we’re talking about, we would like to take more land, and you ’re organizing some kind of cremation there, so i saw quite horrifying footage of where some kind of grove was collected from people already to grow them there as biofuel, conditionally use them for trees, that is, well, things happen beyond the bounds of common sense, well, in general , certain structures in the west have long considered people as biomass, well, according to their worldview. light comes out, things like this appear

some statements, thoughts, proposals, and so on, this speaks of the dehumanization of society that they entail, including , first of all, propaganda, and the lack of a full, adequate reflection on what has now happened in ukraine in ukrainian society itself, where in kiev in general people, well, seem to live and enjoy life, and not only in kiev, while half the country seems to be drenched in blood, it speaks of the power of the cognitive impact of modern means, of the formation of a worldview, mental process, that is, that very informational, primarily war , which has been talked about a lot in recent years, we ourselves in the twentieth year felt how powerful the impact can be on the masses of people through some small... channels, now russia stepped on the same rake in dagestan, that is, we must already accept

this and state as a fact that the overwhelming majority of the population is easily manipulated if we include certain technologies that have already been developed, already exist, are already present, and each of us must understand that he, too, is not some kind of... and he can also get into this flow and he can get carried away, so you need to treat the information very carefully, here is your opinion, let's digress a little, just yesterday, they started hating maxim mirny, who returned to belarus, made a statement that he repented of having made certain calls at some point in 1920, and would like, strictly speaking, to be useful again for the benefit of his family, and so on? people have the right to make mistakes my opinion is yes, what do you think about this , because the opinion on the internet is divided on this matter?

well, listen, there are no people who do not make mistakes in their lives, that is, all people, in principle , make mistakes, the question here is how destructive these mistakes are, for the person himself, for society, that is, to some extent, yes, but any person who has made a mistake has, or rather should have, a chance for repentance, and repentance, by the way, is a greek word, it is translated as change, we often hear repentance there words, but we don’t understand what this means, that is, our people think that repentance means going to the pope and going to confession there, repentance is translated as change, that is, if a person repents, this already means that he is changing, but whether you have changed or not can only be proven by your own deeds, accordingly, well, this guilt needs to be atoneed for, that’s all, you know, in my opinion, to some extent, this is also an indicator of the maturity of society,

is society ready to accept and forgive, say, some kind of misconduct, or take it with hostility, brand it with shame there and so further, especially since, well, in my humble opinion, your opinion is also interesting, that a person who subsequently stumbled , for example, visited the other side of the barricades, looked at what was happening there and realized his mistake, he becomes a patriot much more than those , which don’t see... whatever, but roughly suggest, as for society, i will say that here, probably, taking into account the hate of this, probably from people, like the fear of repetition, that is, people are dissatisfied with the fact that a radical change did not occur after the twentieth year, that is, people expected that the mistakes would not only be taken into account, but that fundamental changes would begin, that is

, a clear direction of action would be chosen by the state that would concern. all departments, all ministries, the whole country will go together in one direction, that is, this swan, crayfish and pike will stop, and the path that everyone will follow will be determined, but since this did not fully happen, there are many scandals of various kinds kind, especially regarding the ministry of culture in recent years, and the president has already talked about this i said, and i think i already told the minister twice at a personal meeting, it was all on television. that is, there are certain processes that frighten people, alarm them, because everything is ambiguous, people have fear, the fear that now everyone will be forgiven, everyone will come again and do the same thing, ah, in order to remove this fear, well, it’s just that the state must

clearly show the irreversibility of change, the irreversibility of a new path, and well, here, of course, everything depends on some global things, there ending with a full-fledged ideology that will guide the work of all government agencies, government departments and structures, that is, a single, clear, understandable, irrevocable, you know , well, i don’t quite agree with what you said, it seems to me that there are still changes, and quite a lot colossal, it is clear that not all of this cannot happen, roughly in 2-3 years, we have a clear course both in foreign policy and in domestic policy, and what is happening, but at least i am happy, i am these i see changes, and it seems to me well, many will see them, including at the elections, a single voting day, we have a future ahead and we will see what kind of people will come to parliament, i hope that after all, those who became public, in the media during the events of 22

, who did not they were afraid and came out, for example, to defend, strictly speaking, sovereignty. belarus , if they have enough competence, the people will support them, from the constituency from which they will run, will they even run, i would of course like to see these people in parliament, it would be interesting to watch how they continue their activities, let’s say, well, returning, literally for a couple of minutes, to the ukrainian events, i’m interested in your opinion, including as a military expert, the events are unfolding interestingly, i came across a spanish publication, writes about that literally in one day several , about eight or nine, of the most advanced western missiles were shot down over the territory of crimea, and i am not shocked by how the air defense system, currently russian, works, what this is connected with, because that i have also come across the opinion that certain installations have appeared

that no one is talking about yet, or that somehow specialists, say, have developed their skills, what do you think about these? well, i’m not an expert in this area, but since i’ve been involved in the military-patriotic education of young people for 13 years, and 14 years already , then of course i inevitably delve into the latest military equipment and tactical elements, strategy, and so on, but i have to in this regard, keep track of various materials, and here i can say that most likely, explicit and dramatic improvement. the work of the air defense of the russian federation, which we have been observing over the past month, and, moreover, much higher effective than before , is most likely associated with the use of plc in the form of aircraft, that is, long-range tracking, which are already capable of tracking missile launches at the start, and in interaction with ground

air defense services, efficiency is already being achieved. almost 100%, that is, what happened just now, yes, this is another factor that will force former western partners to think about the prospects of their operations carried out in ukraine as such, and the prospects for the near future in general, their relationships with our union state, well, you also need to understand perfectly well that, as you say, they will still draw certain conclusions from what is happening, and just yesterday i also saw in the news about that the united states is testing an intercontinental ballistic missile , at the moment, of course, it is being sent without a warhead, but the point is that, as i see it, some kind of race is beginning, technological advances in weapons that

what to do in this situation , won’t we start this arms race again, which will lead to the fact that we have the most advanced missiles, but we still can’t use our mobile phone, how can we eliminate this situation? such a situation is excluded simply with a mixed type of economy, that is. the public sector adjacent to the private sector , all the niches that were, let’s say, not occupied in the soviet union, this is the notorious toilet paper, which has become such a flag among the liberals, high-quality and so on, yes, that means all these niches simply must be covered by private business, the sphere must definitely remain in the sphere of armaments , in the field of space, high technology, artificial intelligence, this is something in which

the state must be strengthened, strengthened, additional funds must be directed there, and if we say about the arms race, then we can state as a fact that it has already begun, and we cannot lag behind in it under any circumstances, because we will simply be destroyed, but if you believe the western press itself, then the west’s lag today is promising developments already existing in russia, this is one , or even two decades, this period is clearly enough to complete the reconstruction of the modern world from unipolar to multipolar, so the chances associated with these... there are new weapons developments in the usa in order to to maintain that system of hegemony and dictatorship of the global this predictor over the entire

globe most likely no longer exists, because there is simply not enough time. and in this sense, by the way, belarus also keeps its finger on the pulse of events, because high-tech production is developing quite actively, if you remember there a dozen years ago , we were all fine with how we were told that a nuclear power plant in belarus is completely unnecessary, let’s build a windmill, dung solar panels, but today for some strange reason everything around us are beginning to think about building their own nuclear power plants, the very states that for a long time criticized our actions, called it an absolutely useless waste of money, and so further and by the way, today macron flew to kazakhstan to negotiate, as far as i understand, about nuclear fuel for its nuclear power plants, what do you think about this, how much we remain in the trend, including thanks to the alliance with the russian

federation, our economic programs, union programs that are being built today, for the republic of belarus, the union state is actually a global political and economic project, that is, for us it is... in fact a ticket to the future, thanks to the union state, the republic of belarus is capable of developing very dynamically in the next decade, if we are talking about these subjects of attacks, attempts to prevent the construction of the belarusian aas, primarily from the baltic neighbors there, well, who are, need to be, such obvious socialites, owners the famous ignolinskayano-e. yes, in the past, uh, here you need to understand that the relationship of the west with all other states, uh, is

primarily a competitive relationship, here in the word competition is a big secret, and most people in our country somehow out of habit perceive this word competition, in this form, as if some kind of sports competition, you know, like these... uh, soviet five-year plans, to give the country more coal and so on, in fact there is no, uh, the fact is that some kind of competitions, there were socialist competitions in the soviet union, they imply the constant movement forward of everyone who competes with each other, competition implies something completely different, it does not necessarily mean one’s own movement forward, but it necessarily implies containment of the enemy, economic, financial, political. therefore, in order to compete in the world market, our neighbors have long understood that it is necessary not only

to progress themselves, but to restrain... the countries surrounding you, this is an attempt to prevent the construction of a power plant in the republic of belarus, this was an attempt to contain the economic growth and development of our country, everything is banal, everything is simple and effective, and thank god that they don’t have this happened. have you observed the security conference that took place last week, representatives from east and west came, in fact, minsk did the impossible... at the table there are, well , let’s say, openly opposing parties, at least at the expert-analytical level, there were high-level representatives, from shoss, i talked with the deputy secretary general, they discussed quite interesting things, in your opinion, how much such dialogue platforms help to keep the world from going over the same point of no return, first of all i want

to say about this. the fact that now the time has begun when the political genius of our president can fully express himself, that is, a very strong person with such a long will, the most experienced politician of this level, probably already on the globe, now his time has really come, and his. .. quite high around the globe, so thanks to our characteristics and data, we are becoming such a platform, namely the republic of belarus, for some other reasons in fact, there are no , well, that is, there are some objective moments that would, well , have some kind of benefit, meaning, to be carried out

here, they simply do not exist, you will not find them. there are places and, let’s say, favorable for this kind of holding, that is, here, yes , this is exclusively the role of our president , as such a powerful state leader, well, at a level, not even regional, you know, in this sense, we can of course be biased and fascinated, say, by the actions of the head of state in the sense that there is a war going on around us, but here we have peace and quiet, here in including, but recently there was a video circulating in t- where an ethnic belarusian woman from germany talks about how they are shooting everywhere, and belarusians go to a concert with their hands up and then ride on the bus singing songs, maybe i also saw this video, but the question is, that yes, we may be biased, but the voices that are heard from people from other countries give us the opportunity to compare notes to what extent our opinion corresponds to reality, also

by communicating with various representatives of analytical structures directly at this conference organized by the ministry foreign affairs in belarus, everyone is referred, no matter what question you ask, everyone is referred to the personality of the belarusian head of state, that is, it is very interesting, in fact it was extremely pleasant, although this is not about you, but to associate yourself with a state that has such a leader - this is always very pleasant, and it seems to me that this is a reason for pride, he is truly a political genius of this... people who simply do not analyze, do not engage in, and do not touch the political sphere at all may not appreciate, well, not understand, but those people who really analyze what politics is, how it works, what it is like now on the globe, they cannot help but admit this, and my opinion is that our president was simply given to us by god, so i, as a believer, i

i am convinced of this, you know, sometimes i also look at... what is happening around belarus, and i always, this is my favorite quote from the head of state, that belarus is a god-protected state, and i sometimes look at some events, if i can’t explain them to myself, well, that’s how it is, because sometimes it seems that now everything is going to collapse, and then somehow it all goes around us from left to right, somehow like the winds, and you think, well, wow, really, you know, we touched on a deep topic, i am convinced that it is so, and these are not... just empty words, our ancestors suffered very much, that is, uh, here are our grandfathers, our grandmothers, great-grandfathers, uh, they shed blood in huge quantities, that is, this is suffering, this is such a terrible sacrifice that was made to our peoples, uh, it, well, probably, it brings some kind of drop, now you see, we have already started talking about the genocide of the belarusian people, i don’t understand why we haven’t

talked about this since the times of the soviet union. some kind of modesty we are not used to, as if the enemy has been defeated, well, we are not used to dancing on his bones, but as for this kind of love of god and in relation to belarus, to our land, to our long-suffering people, i i want to make a small but serious warning: after all, uh, what’s happening inside the country, uh, peace, tranquility and these values , which every day become more and more important and understandable for every person, first of all, still depend on the state, well, let’s say, the moral state of society, the moral state of the people. and i am very glad that these are the people we talked about today, who in the twentieth year stood up to defend the constitutional system, to defend the state, in fact, now they

are involved in defending the morality of our society, that’s how i a person who has been doing this for a long time for many years, i want to tell you that before the twentieth year, well, all the people... who somehow in the legislative sphere, in the educational sphere, in the cultural sphere, raised these issues and with all their might tried to prevent further degradation of society, moral, moral, uh, us, we all knew each other, it’s just that there were about a dozen and a half people in the country, everyone knew each other by sight, then after the twentieth year a certain kind of people woke up, you see, and you say nothing is happening, that's it is happening, is happening, i said that there is no... there is no clarity for this to happen everywhere and in everything, there is still a department, a ministry, where yes, where they want this and that, to please everyone, on two

sitting on chairs at the same time, this is present, this is what worries people, but what is gaining momentum, now in social networks, is gaining momentum, as if such a personal protest of citizens against the dominance of american culture, well, in quotes , culture, i cannot call halloween culture. yes, that is, anticulture, which came to us from america, through hollywood, first of all, such westernization, it is gaining momentum, that is, if earlier, well, there were 10 people in the country talking about it, now thousands of people express their opinions, you know, this is really wonderful, that you raised this topic, let’s discuss, you are also an entrepreneur , i know a large community of people who do business around you, uh, i’m interested in your opinion, here’s halloween, it’s promoted from a business point of view, are you ready? belarusian business to do similar things, for example, regarding kolyat, some belarusian holidays, to invest in something so that later, maybe, they can make money from it,

because everyone understands perfectly well that halloween is, first of all, about money, yes, that’s exactly what it is a business project, yes, but you and i must understand that drugs, prostitution, and arms trafficking are the same. these are also, first of all , business projects, you said two words: entrepreneur and business, i distinguish between these concepts, i am an entrepreneur, but not a businessman, for a businessman, that is, the psychology of a businessman is such a pure capitalist, there really is no such crime that an entrepreneur will not commit for the sake of 300% of the profit, he is capable... of his entrepreneurial activities, including without overstepping his moral principles and norms, an entrepreneur is a person who gets pleasure from creating something, creating something new, well, including

the value added there, an entrepreneur is a person who sees the meaning of life not in accumulation of funds in production. something in bringing something into this life, including material, but not necessarily, only material, so i want to say that now more and more young entrepreneurs are appearing in the country, so i get to know them more and more who invest their own funds in development projects, for example education in the country , right now we are cooperating with such people, a class has opened in polotsk, or rather a class has opened in novopolotsk this year from september 1, healthy saving teaching from the first grade, expensive equipment, there are special desks standing, sitting, and so on for this class

, a belarusian entrepreneur purchased now we are in minsk, this is an ordinary school for which we bought equipment, yes, that’s exactly it, that is , let’s say this was pushed by an entrepreneur from brest, who has already for years he has been trying to develop this topic of improving the health of our children in schools. now a group of entrepreneurs has been organized, including me, as well as social activists who are of the same class, or even two classes, most likely next year, as some kind of pilot project, we want to open in the city of minsk, in one of the schools in minsk, that is, this very entrepreneurial layer, it is divided into businessmen, all for the sake of profit for people who earn money, for

some goals, not only to provide for ourselves, but also to give something to society, thank you very much for your opinion, unfortunately, we are forced to end ours, it was an information and analytical program , an actual microphone, broadcast on the belarusian radio, tv channel belarus 24 , was with you presenter andrei sych, as well as our guest pyotr shabko, social and political figure of belarus, thank you, see you, goodbye. we work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to keep you up to date with current events in the country and the world. in addition, our team... obtains valuable knowledge from experts on how

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