among schoolchildren, what do you consider a symbol of modern culture of belarus? they put the national library of belarus in first place, i think this says a lot.

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is authorized” to declare, i am its presenter nadezhda sas, i greet you. let me remind you that this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of the country and each of us. a multipolar world, a new and unsafe reality, is the state ready for it? let's talk about this right away after a digest of key events in world politics this week. on october 26-27 , an international high- level conference on eurasian security, reality and prospects in a transforming world was held in minsk. the event was attended by about 120 representatives of 30 eurasian states , including the minister of foreign affairs of the republic of belarus sergei oleinik, the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation sergei lavrov, the minister of foreign affairs of hungary, petr szijjarto, the csto secretary general ima tosmagambetov,

the head of a number of socio-political organizations and countries of the eurasian economic union, representatives of the academic expert communities of the eu, cis and sco states discussed a number of important topics to determine the prospects for eurasian security in the context of the crisis of changing world economic structures, aggravated contradictions between key players and a sharp decrease in the level of communication between them. issues of global and regional geopolitical prerequisites for eurasian security, economic integration and pairing in favor of a single architecture. security issues were considered during special thematic sessions. president of belarus alexander lukashenko held a meeting with the minister of foreign affairs of foreign trade of hungary peter szijjártó. during the meeting , the belarusian leader noted that the european union , along with russia, the usa, china and to some extent india, are strong pillars of the existence of the planet. alexander lukashenko emphasized that belarus, being a european state, where the center

of europe is located, stands for the fact that the european the union existed. in addition, the belarusian leader conveyed his best wishes to the prime minister of hungary, viktor orban. don't forget, mr. orban. it’s difficult for us to come there, almost impossible, now, so he can fly in at any time, we’ll talk about serious issues, i think it will be useful, in belarus they are ready for any scenarios in response to the actions of westerners during the upcoming elections, about this the president of belarus alexander lukashenko said at a meeting with russian foreign minister sergei lavrov. the belarusian leader confirmed that the republic of belarus is a reliable ally of the russian federation and there can be no game in this matter. both russia and belarus are doing a lot today in order to keep not only europe, but also the world from sliding towards the most dangerous line, you should

know that we will continue to adhere to this line, we are reliable allies of the russian federation, you can do this too no doubt. there can be no game here, since we understand that a lot is at stake, in principle, the survival of our states and peoples. the head of the russian ministry of foreign affairs thanked for the invitation to visit belarus for its initiative to hold a conference on the topic of eurasian security. the timeliness of organizing such a forum, sergei lavrov explained the difficult situation on the european continent, large and rich in natural resources, but under the dictation of the americans, who decided... to split into two camps, just as it was during the cold war era. after much delay, the president of slovakia agreed to the formation of a new government led by with robert fitz, known for his sympathies for russia and negative attitude towards

arms supplies to ukraine, fitz, together with his party, won the parliamentary elections on september 30, but under pressure from globalist circles in washington and brussels. the head of state, liberal zuzana caputova , delayed until the last minute in agreeing to the creation of a new cabinet. at the end of the past week , fica took part in a meeting of eu heads of state and government in brussels, where he presented slovakia’s new course on all key topics, from the migration crisis to conflict in ukraine. the newly elected prime minister said that slovakia will not provide military assistance to ukraine. it’s better to let them talk about peace for 10 years than to kill for 10 years. each other without any conclusions - the local publication actuality quotes him as saying. the right-wing conservative swiss people's party won the swiss parliamentary elections. this political force , often classified as eurosceptics

, received almost 29% of the votes. she strengthened her previous result and was significantly ahead of her closest competitor in social democratic party. considering what conservatives criticized. the country's accession to sanctions against russia, considering this a violation of the principle of neutrality, the election results demonstrated that the desire to stay away from other people's conflicts is shared by many swiss. in addition, it turned out that the problem of migration worries the population much more than the environmental agenda. the green party received a record low result, losing 11 seats. in general, the elections in switzerland confirmed pan-european trends. the rise in popularity of conservative speaking forces. against the influx of migrants, the dismantling of traditional values ​​and additional economic costs generated by adherents of the green transition. the leo-liberal utopia named after greta thunberg and george soros is causing increasing resistance among the broad masses. li shang-fu

is no longer china's defense minister. as reported by central television, the five-year general, who held this position since march, also lost his post as state adviser. the reasons for the official’s dismissal have not been given; it is also unknown who will now head the military department, li last appeared in public on august 29, before which he visited russia and belarus. the resignation of the secretary of defense is viewed through the prism of us-china relations. lishong was under us sanctions in connection with beijing's purchase of combat aircraft from russia. his resignation was confirmed a few days before the opening of the seanshine forum on defense and security issues, at which... at the beginning i would like to remind you that fyodor tyutchev was not only a talented poet, but a successful diplomat, a rare example of a combination creative nature and bureaucratic streak, and it is all the more appropriate to quote in my program

these lines of tyuchy tsitsiron’s poem. blessed is he who has taken possession of this world, in his fatal moments, he was called by all the good, as an interlocutor to a feast, he is their highest. only a spectator, he was admitted to their council, alive, like a celestial being, drinking from the cup of their immortality. and i think it’s unlikely that anyone will dare to argue that we are gifted with precisely this happiness. living in an era of grandiose changes, they will affect everyone in one way or another, and even in the quietest corners of the planet, when and how the transition from the previous system of international relations to a new, fairer, but also less predictable system will be completed , will be discussed in today’s program, i am glad to welcome you, andrei petrovich bogadel, deputy head of the faculty of the general staff , is already present in our studio armed forces of belarus, candidate of military sciences, hello, hello, mizhevich, doctor of economic sciences, director of the center for belarusian studies at the institute of europe of the russian

academy of sciences. hello. good afternoon. i'm glad to see oleg voloshin, ukrainian politician, candidate of political sciences. oleg, thank you for being with us, i welcome you. hello. according to tradition, we begin the discussion with a quick question: the world will continue to shake for a long time on the same scale as it is now. andrey petrovich? i think that the world will not shake, most likely indefinitely. in these conditions, while the issues are related specifically, probably, to multipolarity or polycentricity, here we also need to define a little about this, this terminology, what it is, until some real centers are actually identified forces that will be able to negotiate, i think that hardly anyone will be satisfied with what is happening today, but to say that the world that emerged after the second world war was bad is probably wrong, since no one... i haven’t come up with anything better than the united nations organization and the security council, maybe, in all

likelihood, these are the centers of power that should form, form some kind of local human civilizations, and it is the organizations of the united that should do this nations, it is in the security council to form this new council, which almost everyone is talking about today, in my opinion, after all, the future, it will be based on those principles. and approaches that were formed after the second world war. oleg, what do you think? i think that such instability will probably continue for at least another five years, or more, until the end of the decade, and this instability does not lie in the fact that some individual conflicts are breaking out, because, let ’s not forget that the arab-israeli conflict there, in a good way, it began in the form of a clash between jews and arabs even before the second world war, it lasted, it began, it intensified very strongly, after the second the entire bipolar system existed, then throughout the entire period

of us dominance, now we see again an escalation, it’s not a matter of specific conflicts, yes, in fact, there were enough problems during the bipolar world, the fact is that the system itself, in which we really can, there are several sets of players, there were two, or one, like the united states, the dominant one, or there will be a lot of people there, they could gather around certain rules and principles and agree on something, but now there is no such system. the united states itself, as the situation in the middle east also shows, can no longer be the decisive provider of security and stability; it is not incapable of resolving conflicts, but a new configuration in which a group of states could agree on something, has not yet fully formed, so shaking will be enough, in this sense for a long time, even in those situations where it would be possible, such as the situation with ukraine, and the conflict could be avoided in principle.

nikolai moratovich, here they are, the roaring twenties, the menacing twenties, that is, we are coming to understand that this is just the beginning, although sometimes it already seems that armageddon, here it is unfolding before our eyes, i think that it is still unfolding, clearly the point of maximization the conflict has not passed, we have entered such a stage, indeed, the security council, in general the whole ... topic of the un, it cannot be an ideal invention on millennium, but at its stage it played a major stabilizing role, let's imagine a person who graduated from school in minsk in the fifty-third year , the sixty-third year, the 73rd year, the eighty- third year he is already retiring, but he lives in a stable world, where if there are any conflicts, something flared up somewhere, here somewhere... something arabs with jews, there is czechoslovakia, hungary, something in the far east, something in the middle average, but

overall stability and peace, this period, of course, has been exhausted, yes, and if at eighty in the third year it was not obvious, but now it is absolutely obvious how long this can continue, well, if we switch to the last century, then the processes that became obvious in the twentieth year, 923. that germany has not been reconciled, that the contradictions in europe have not been resolved, that britain is a leaving power, and the usa is a coming one, like japan. to play a big empire in the far east, in east asia in general and in southeast asia, and even australia is somehow already seen as their own, all these things have given rise to instability, which by and large the count ended somewhere around 45-48, which means 20-25 years, which means we clearly

haven’t passed this period yet, well, i want to remind our dear viewers. international relations, what they are, details in our certificate, this is important. there are five systems of international relations in the world. the first of them, westphalia, originated between the 18th and 16th centuries. its supporters shared the ideas of national cooperation and the principle of state sovereignty. the second system, vienna, appeared between the end of the napoleonic wars and the first world war. its essence was the balance of power of the large european states. versailles-washington. the topic of international relations arose between the two world wars. it was based on the idea of ​​collective security with the participation of the league of nations. the fourth, the yalta-podzdam system, was formed shortly before the collapse of the ussr. its main provisions consolidated the bipolarity of the world, as a confrontation between capitalist and socialist countries.

the un was considered the guarantor of security. and the fifth modern system of international relations appeared after signing of warsaw. treaty, it combines two points of view: according to the first, the global dominance of the united states is recognized, according to the second, the multipolarity of the world. the concept of poles of military-political influence remained key for many decades to describe the international system, first the balance of two superpoles, then the attempt to dominate one hyperpole, as a reaction to the latter demand for a multipolar world, as an antithesis. hegemony, andrei petrovich, you wanted us to decide on the correct definition of what kind of world is coming, well you know, if we look at what poles are in general, if from the point of view, for example, of spherical trigonometry, then there should be two poles, if from the point of view of geography it’s the same, two poles, at least there should be if we look at the level of world politics , well, yes, we have

a bipolar, that is, bipolar world that was formed after the yalta-podzdam agreements and conferences. today we probably need to talk about multipolarity or polycentricity, but we must clearly understand that the world today has truly changed. united states obviously, they can no longer fully perform the functions of a policeman, a world gendarme. you will remember when donald trump said, we will no longer exercise control over all states , we will no longer perform police functions, we will participate and... with all states, well, another question is how the united states can compete, we are we know in what form the united states competes and how it happens, so today it’s probably correct to talk about the polycentricity of this world, that is, the state is the key centers that unite around themselves local human civilizations, local, well, if

i may say so, local human civilizations, that is, there is our general civilization, and there is a local one, and we will see the same thing, where these key states are, for example, western civilization or western civilization or american americana, it is clear that they are american-centric, there is a state that controls activities within its civilization, if we look, for example, east slavic or russian civilization, recently a very interesting document was adopted, including in the russian federation, called the concept of external security, which says that now the russian federation should be considered, and this is correct, precisely as a state of civilization, i think we will return to this definition also, also in this very region, russia exercises control and, accordingly , the diversity of all these forms of political, economic, cultural and so on, further, the same thing is chinese, japanese civilization, indian civilization,

islamic, latin american and so on, but you look, for example, the same islamic civilization, which state performs a polycentric function, and a centric function, it does not exist. and as a result of this, it is obvious that within this, this civilizational formation, what is happening today is happening, it is endless, and conflicts are in a permanent state, many say, what can i say, it was a complete surprise when hamas started another intifada there in relation to, israel, well, yes, maybe at the tactical level, when... this, yes, it was a surprise, well, in my opinion, everyone knew everything clearly imagined, sooner or later, it would still burn, the gaza strip, hamas, and so on and the like, that is, syria, hezbollah, all this ... it is in a permanent state, none exist, in principle, these are the same, this also applies to african, african civilization, the same thing, look, there is no

key states, and today precisely with the formation of these key states, centers of power and it is possible to form on its basis a security council, where these elementary issues will be resolved precisely within the framework of these states that will form, then precisely on the basis of agreements, something can... be resolved, but talk about that there should be two poles, we will not solve any problems, and it was rightly said that problems always arose one at a time, just let’s pay attention, the geopolitical configuration of the world, there is a network, unipolarity, bipolarity, multipolarity, that’s how it is complicated, oleg, please, i want to hear your comment, indeed, no matter how cynical it may sound at the moment, there is an opinion that the great powers are interested... in local conflicts, local outbreaks, because it is better to fight on another territory , foreign territory, in order to prevent a direct

collision? well, the fact is that, uh, power confrontation in itself in international relations is its inherent characteristic, as well as competition between people, and conflicts between people, is an immanent characteristic of human society. it is only idealists who believe that each according to his ability, to each according to his needs, and we can all be there, all people are brothers and so on, but in fact, realists and their history confirms that they are right, they suggest simply proceeding from what the state is and what it is the state is a large association of people, if in our ordinary lives we constantly compete with whom we periodically enter into confrontation, and so on, this despite the fact that there is clear state control, and in every society, then... but still some kind of conflicts, disputes constantly arise there, from disputes on the roads, ending with competitions there in offices, enterprises and so on, between people, then what can we expect

from large associations of states where the system of international law and any international system, by definition, has never been as rigid as a system of rules, such as, for example, a state in relation to its citizens; never in the world has there existed such a system, such a superstate, or a suprastate, which it would be, in terms of the degree... of influence and authority for all humanity, comparable there, for example, with the authority there, conditionally, of the state of germany for german citizens by the state of the republic of belarus for citizens of belarus, therefore, in principle, we can simply strive to form a world where confrontation will never pass into a nuclear one, which will mean general destruction, and any conflicts will, to one degree or another, be resolved relatively quickly; they will always be inevitable. unfortunately, we are all imperfect, we are all sinners, we are all prone to in order to build our success at the expense of, to one degree

or another, subordinating others, we need to build up until there is no external threat, an external threat to all humanity, in the end we live in a reality where the rules governing the world fizzle out, stop working, so with this it’s really difficult to argue, and the question is, what follows from this, what should be done, efforts should be made to inhale... certain processes? if we rely on self-regulation, then we risk losing humanity as a whole, because despite all with all the imperfections of those rules that existed, those post-war agreements after the second world war, they gave us a lot of peace, well, let's consider that to this day many, many, two generations have grown up in a peaceful, peaceful sky, look what a thing it is

and it’s good and bad, the american political system no longer has people who not only don’t remember the second world war, but there are almost none of them in vietnam, they can’t imagine that the united states could lose, but it turns out that they can, and the events in the middle east show that they can. if regarding ukraine, there are still possible some, well, let’s say, disputes, but it is obvious that the united states has already lost in the middle east, because biden’s visit, it happened at the wrong time, that more, more than a mistake in the american it is impossible to imagine politics in the east, and one more thing, the dispute between the slavs... many refuse to accept this as a big conflict, i mean russian-ukrainian relations, but the arab-israeli issue, it somehow

involves everyone, in first because, well, uh, there are a lot of muslims, there are much fewer jews, but they are very , very influential, especially in the financial sphere, again in the united states of america, and the memory of the holocaust was also updated anew within the framework of this conflict, and this, uh, it would seem to suggest that humanity will find some way, but it did not find an effective way in the forty-eighth year, as it turned out. not in the next war of the year fifty, not in the war of the year sixty-eight, not in the war of this year, not in the lebanese conflict of the year eighty-two, now this solution is also not yet visible, which means that some kind of new system is really needed, but what is unclear, then , suppose we and the chinese, india and brazil are ready to recognize a multipolar system, but the main player, the united states of america

, is not ready at all recently recently stated that we can simultaneously in ukraine, let’s hear direct speech, the war in israel and the war in ukraine, isn’t this more than the united states can bear at once, but we are the united states, for god’s sake, we are the strongest country in history history of the whole world, we can participate in both conflicts and maintain our defenses. here you go, such a statement really does not correspond to the reality of the expectations of the united states of america and its new opportunities, because the world has really changed , and it is extremely difficult to control or promote a settlement. andrei petrovich, you know, i think biden is right in this situation, why is the united states in the current conditions not threatened by anything, they

have decided what is necessary in virtually all regions, what was laid down in ancient rome was continued, as they say, by nikola makeveli, and today the same biden, dividing the persecution of power, works flawlessly, absolutely, they have created such conditions in the globe where the united states is beginning to distribute exactly these are the riches, they determine who to impose sanctions on, from whom to lift sanctions, at what price to buy certain reserves, be it uranium here in russia, or how to influence oil prices to change, in principle today , anglo-suctions, they feel very very comfortable, why? and there are no other entities that can compete with them. china, yes, but china today , in essence, is also such a lone state, yes, today we are beginning to form the sco, brix and so on, and this is what the americans are beginning to be very, very careful about, why?

while it is still an organization... such, it is, as it were, a beginner, at the stage that it is, first of all, some sprouts there, of course, economic, some political sprouts, well, all this in our world, it must defend itself, defend itself, that is, the military component in any formation, it will come anyway, and when such an formation as brix, as a military-political bloc is formed, in this situation the united states will really understand that this very multipolar world is ahead , or multicentric world. today, i will repeat once again, they are not threatened by anything, they create where there is instability in the world, they redistribute these resources, they play first fiddle everywhere, it’s all comfortable, it’s everything is convenient, having involved russia in these conflicts, actually isolating it, yes, from the western world, creating the conditions and prerequisites for the isolation of china, and look around, quaads, aukuses, the same osians, all of it has been created,

and the most important thing is that china today wants, in such conditions, well, literally two or three states that are around it, with which they do not have any disputes, this is the same pakistan, conditionally nepal, probably mongolia and russia, that’s all, and i think that the united states, they will do everything to these organizations, such as brix, they have never been independent and ready to resist in this global world, let's pay attention to the world map, where we tried to highlight those states that are members of the north... atlantic alliance and members of brix are again, the key five and those states that want to join it, here is olek, please tell me, what do you think , are those players who today have unresolved conflicts, controversial situations, for example, north and south korea, taiwan and the people's republic of china understands that the only

player interested in this or that conflict breaking down, well, by the way, i cannot agree with you here, well, let's put it this way, well, we want to say that the united states of america is interested in what is happening now. .. the middle east was booming, so blinken was marked there like a sparn and now biden has arrived, but no, of course, on the contrary, you will understand what an adopolar world is, what dominance is the united states, that is, what today is united the states are the most powerful country in the world, this is not because they incite conflicts everywhere, because they managed to occupy such a position as a result of two world wars that were suicidal for european civilization, the first and second, and as a result of their own economic development, as a result of the successful functioning of their own political model, based on the fact that they... a high percentage of innovations were introduced in various fields, including the military, that is, well, let 's be objective, the united states for 100 years was the most effective state in the world, by all indicators, so it’s not because they are some kind of you know, they’re conditional, there’s this

mythical rockfiller and rotcherdy, who behind the scenes pit everyone against each other, well, the location is overseas, so you know, it happened historically that they have their own, oleg, but if we are talking about the fact that the hegemon is no longer a hegemon, the world is multipolar, how can multipolarity exist if the key decision-making states cannot at the moment sit down at the negotiating table and agree among themselves and highlight the rules and laws by which they will interact in the future, and why do we actually say that the hegemon is not a hegemon, for one simple reason, here we are saying there, russia cannot fully itself - let's say... challenge the united states or china, but in fact they challenged this, what is the polar world, it was a system, let's remember, this was quite recently, when no one could raise their voice at all, when yeltsin chapter

russian russia was essentially a person who obeyed the americans in everything, when the chinese were in power, they had a different political system, but due to the fact that they did not feel strong enough and were not economically powerful enough, they also essentially followed.. ... the same course that the americans were charting, this was one polarity, the american voice in all matters was decisive , always determining everywhere, including in the internal politics of almost every country, is this so now, no, look, roughly speaking , such the same conflict as now russia would not have started over the expansion of nato when the countries of eastern europe joined nato, it would not have started when the baltic states joined nato, but now the americans cannot even force any country outside the political west... to even force sanctions against russia, where is this unipolar world, what kind of hegemony is this, but there is no hegemony, they are in the middle east, where yesterday they were the main and only policemen, today they are forced to reckon not only with the interests of russia and china, but even with iran, which more

yesterday it was considered possible to simply bomb everything, but today they are already afraid to bomb iran , today they already understand that there is already a big war, remember the iraqi company, even the europeans were against the invasion of iraq in 2003, the americans didn’t care, they didn’t even have europeans... allies could bend everyone, today they run after these allies and persuade them to be at the same time with them, there is no need , america is strong not because it became strong today, it was strong before, because they were more effective, they were more successful, they were able to create a more competitive economy, a better economic system , after all , it was the americans who were able to introduce the computer that was invented in the ussr en masse, so let’s better ask our older generation how this happened, and now the new generation, including such leaders.. ... like lukashenko, like putin, like sidzenpil, they do not correct the mistakes of those who allowed the hegemony of the united states back in the middle of the century. thank you, oleg, it’s difficult even to argue with you, and it was said correctly,

so i say that alliances are being formed, because no one today is able to resist the united states alone, well, for example, i can’t understand why the united states won’t be satisfied with a conflict today in the middle east, and what about it. absolutely resolves this conflict, the issue had to be resolved with the gas sector, it had to be resolved, otherwise it would be endless, as everything turned out well in nagorno-karabakh, yes, the territorial dispute was resolved in a short time, but why today, for example, we don’t say that well, let's get into conspiracy theories, let it be conspiracy theories, let's fight, why isn't it it was provoked in order to once and for all, for example, resolve the problem with the gas sector, and by chance two aircraft carriers suddenly appeared there, by chance biden suddenly arrives, with whom no one meets with the bombing of the hospital, because it is their own fault, they refused to meet with him who came to reconcile them, we continue like this, and at the same time further preparations are being made, whether there is a ground operation or a ground operation, troops are being prepared, put into battle order, time is being gained for combat coordination, other

elements, believe me, the israeli army is not the army that will smear the snot, it will establish the order they need there, and the minister of defense, this dutchman, he said, many are already saying that zionism is equal to nazism, yes, this is not... people, this animal, you understand, this is the attitude of israelis today towards those who are around, you understand, and what lies ahead is clear that israel is preparing for very serious things. the consequences are beyond any doubt, look, as soon as it started, they immediately, well, of course, when they have a certain area of ​​terrain with hezbollah, on which they shoot all the time, that some are second, in order to justify their confrontation, but they raised aircraft and again hit targets in syria, they showed again, as if at the level of strategic deterrence, that they are ready to wage a war not on one, but on two fronts , and the west successfully supported this, everyone understands, but iran, just distant from the echoes, begins to say: we are categorically against, we, uh, express

some concern, and so on and so forth, but in reality today force is on the side the west and most importantly - the initiative is on the side of the west, and it needs to be reversed, in any situation it must be actively, otherwise the west will use and use all these contradictions, i think very very competently in its own interests, i’m not ready discuss. the arab-israeli conflict, since it still has relative kinship with our theme of multipolarity. i just wanted to say that the americans haven’t been able to do a lot for a long time: attempts to create a quarrel between india and china. what did they lead to? to because they have a territorial dispute. and they are found high in the mountains. indian chinese soldiers with wooden sticks

from time to time start fights with each other on these wooden sticks, and also throw stones. the question arises: what do they at least not have flintlocks, they don’t have everything, including nuclear weapons, but they achieve some kind of outlet for emotions in a four-pronged theater in this way, this is what the americans achieved, india has its own. china has its own, but neither one nor the other is not an american line, china just has it quite frank, anti-american, and india is simply playing for itself, but is not ready to take a pro-american position , well, going back to the very distant past, here is ancient rome, a sophisticated civilization, already barbarians, ancient germanic tribes were knocking on the gate at the moment when the tribunes in rome

they said that rome in general is the center of the world, that rome cannot have enemies, that rome is the first forever, that after rome there will be nothing, and during one of these speeches everything ended, instead of that rome, even italy, for thousands of years it was with superfluous, not to mention the truly great roman empire, and one day this could happen to any empire, including the american one, because in a multipolar environment you are not able to call even each of the centers, you can call moscow, you can call beijing , and who will you call in the middle east, if you called tehran, then they will howl in ankara, and if you called... it means they will be unhappy in tehran, you

will solve problems with argentina in latin america, which means you most likely quarreled with brazil, if you play on brazil’s side, you will have problems with chile, at some stage, it’s impossible to name a year here, the americans simply don’t have enough fingers to cover the keyboard, because every key already wants to live with your life. even in the middle east they declare a proto-state formation, but we don’t want to see the president of the united states, whenever such a thing could be heard, we don’t want to see, but you have to crawl on your knees to the ladder, and you don’t want to see him, that means something there's something wrong with you kingdom if they don’t want to see you? let me remind you that on the air of the program, sas is authorized

to declare the multipolar world as it is; he not only expressed his opinion about this in a recent interview with the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin. let's hear direct speech. the multipolar world is being created on its own in fact. and it is happening in connection with the growing potential of many countries, including, and last but not least, the growing potential of the chinese people's republics, india is growing in asia, indonesia is growing, many other countries are growing in latin america, brazil, russia is getting back on its feet and getting stronger. and i repeat again, this is a manifestation of the objective process of formation of a multipolar world. nobody wants to be on the sidelines of some sovereign. everyone wants an equal relationship. and

they see, if they join brix, that as part of the expansion, as part of the strengthening of this format, they are like this. here are the relations between countries, we can achieve this goal faster by combining efforts. based on joint efforts. indeed , today some states that cause delight are those that have not yet lost their sovereignty. and here is the russian federation today, and the republic of belarus, compared to what is happening in europe today, the european union, it could be. one of the key players, if he had not sold, would not have completely given up his sovereignty, especially in recent years? you know, everything is generally happening against the backdrop of the events that are taking place in ukraine today, that is, the confrontation with russia, the confrontation with the west, it has clearly defined who is for whom, these are

the first conditional two poles in everything, where we are hostile, as in the song, that's it related problems... it still lays down in this europe for the future, in any case, a confrontation with the east, that is , this west-east axis, it has not yet outlived its purpose, as they say, until the global north and global south went there , it has not yet outlived its usefulness, and here look how skillfully and competently the west is starting again, there is a war with ukraine, of course, here a priori everyone has talked about it and is talking and will talk about it, all the same, ukraine’s war will lose. as a sovereign state beyond any doubt, when it freezes and unfreezes there, it will go on for decades, but it will still be ukraine, it will belong to this russian world, without a doubt, because it belongs to this russian world, no matter how much those who are there today would not want it presents a completely different ideology, but look how

the west begins to act in these conditions, it begins to divide the already existing european union, the existing nato bloc into... more blocs, which in the future are able to resist russia without joining these global forces, such as britain, for example, the united states and even that same france. today, for example, we see that three seas are being formed, led by poland, while there is some kind of supposedly economic union there, but in the end we understand that any economic union sooner or later still becomes military-political, then britain, and this part, she is in complete control. states and this is evidence that where this part of the trimarium is located, the presence of military bases, american, presence relevant advisers, operational groups of various headquarters and so on, here is the second element - this is what great britain controls, this is such a new union, or you can say an entity like jeff, these are forces

that are called joint, expeditionary forces, led by great britain, and it includes also about ten countries. this includes scandinavia, this includes the entire baltic states, denmark, the netherlands and even iceland were brought there, you see, these are the formations that at one time or another can act as a military force on this russian federation, yes, that is, as the main rival, let’s just try to even predict, that is , there are different approaches, that is, what can happen in a given situation, that is, there is a forecast that allows us to look from.. ... those goals that have been set and how they will achieve this, we take absolutely all the concepts, military strategies, doctrines that are adopted in the west, at the core it is clear, this is the us national security strategy, which influenced the same nato strategy and so on further, by 2030 they have clearly defined enemy number one, who

must be dealt with, this is the russian federation, they also talk for the first time about the republic of belarus for the long term, china has been identified there, so until 203 with such an enemy as the russian federation it is necessary to deal with this, almost all of their documents, all legal acts say this, therefore, in this period of time, what is now being carried out in ukraine, what can then be increased with the help, with the help of jeff and anything else, it will continue without the end, at the end, even of the same fifth column, which for some reason is no longer visible in russia at all, it all left, first to help israel, now it is moving to another place, to help the next state. therefore, it is necessary, of course , to say that predictively they will try to either completely neutralize these states, or in the worst case. maybe destroy, somehow, fragment, and no one hides their consequences about this, if we, on the contrary, go from what

to extrapolate to the future, then we too we see what the same poland represented in retrospect, what britain represented in retrospect, these are those colonial conquests, this is the confrontation with the russian world, which also fits into this general concept. andrey petrovich, but you know, what else is important to pay attention to, we... are accustomed to perceiving europe as the losing part, but the globalist-liberal ideas that were quite actively imposed, they led to the fact that right-wing parties are becoming quite popular in the current situation, and the european union is gradually waking up in a number of states; not so long ago , an open discussion of the path to achieving peace in ukraine and the role of the eu took place in the european parliament. they took part in it. member of the european parliament from germany maximal cra, from france triry marijani and representing belgium marcel de grave. let's hear

an excerpt of this discussion and analyze it, please. this is a fundamental choice, between the forces of peace and the forces of war. and i hope that now we can bring a quick conclusion to the situation in ukraine and finish this whole journey in hell. because otherwise, in the coming decades, we will see a lot of blood, poverty, and we generally cannot be sure that europe will exist until the middle of the century, if we do not stop these idiots and warmongers, in whose hands the power of tiri is now, well, like my colleague, i think that the most important thing is peace, first of all, it is peace for those unfortunate people who are dying now, let’s not forget about them, i repeat, in this parliament it is very easy for us to just vote, but i remember what happened in france during the civil war

the war in spain before the second world war, i remember that many politicians were simply involved in the battles on both sides, and now politicians just go to television studios and promote the war, and here everything is the same, there is one, do you know one, although would be a politician who votes for... and war , and who would like to promote this situation, there are no such people, we have some very young man, perhaps, and we want to stop this tragicomedy for russia, for ukraine , we want to find a way to achieve prosperity for everyone, and the first step is peace, we want to build a new architecture with russia, with ukraine, because for ukraine there is a need for guarantees of existence, a necessary guarantee for the preservation of peace, but also for russia. for europe they are also necessary. and we need to stop so that we are not swallowed up by the politics of mr. zelsky.

it frightens me how in france everyone is waiting for his speech, like the speech of the pope. okay, you want money, we'll give you money. please stop this religious worship. sorry if mr. zelsky if he were a politician in our country, he would already be in prison. everyone forgets that this is quite happening here. sorry, i can’t tell you this, it’s forbidden, i hope. then you cut it out during editing, a very frank and honest discussion and i can’t even believe that it is happening today within the walls of the european parliament, the voices of adequate european politicians are heard today, there are not many of them, but they are there, this is happening, yes, i recognize these premises, this is happening in strasbourg, it's happening, but it's not very good influences the current policies of france and the european union, there are such people.

there are many more of them than it might seem to mr. zelensky and his supporters, but their voices, well, are drowned out, yes, it’s like shouting out of a refrigerator, it’s almost impossible for now, but uh, the further the situation in the ukrainian direction develops, the more such people there will be more, and i wanted to answer your question, about countries that... quite, i would say, realize themselves with dignity in a multipolar world. that's when the lithuanian foreign minister says, that belarus is in isolation, i have a feeling that he is delusional, because, well , it’s not so difficult to go to the website of the ministry of foreign affairs of belarus and see the scale of contact... with almost all the poles that you had

on the map in the studio, with almost everyone, but you can, of course, close your eyes, climb into the refrigerator and talk about lukashenko coming to putin, lukashenko coming to china and that ’s all there is to it, well, by the way, even if that’s the case, then that’s already a lot, but we see the widest circle, the work of the ministry of foreign affairs in delta america, please , asian countries, please, the middle east, there were very significant contacts, latin america, to a large extent a new region for the republic, is working. this means that it turns out that it is not multi-vectorism, but isolation towards one boss, this is just a lithuanian story, not at all a belarusian one, this attempt to blame your neighbor for something you don’t do for obvious reasons, impossible, yes, you don’t do it, it’s very characteristic, so not only for russia and

china is a multipolar world - if the state is small, well, at least not as big as russia or china, it may well follow the path of multipolarity, by the way, the example here is not only the republic of belarus, please, even being in nato you can voice quite sound and sober thoughts , what does, for example, the hungarian leader do, yes, he cannot jump out of the cart in which hungary was put... his predecessors, but he is at least trying in this cart to force his neighbors, so to speak, to pay attention to the fact that that we are going to the wrong place, in our times there are already many, i hope, and the situation with the recent elections in slovakia, yes, yes,

this, you know, front of adequate people will also strengthen, oleg, you agree with what you heard. because the words that we heard from maximilian kra, from tiri marijani, they are indeed completely opposite to the fact that there are those statements that are present in the european media and the understanding that the conflict in ukraine must be ended, the understanding that the world will move away all participants in this conflict from a quite a happy, but successful existence in the next 100 years, and enough... uh, you know how to even say, with irony, even with a little mockery, the words of tiri marijani, how the french react to zelensky, but still understand everything perfectly , and this is hysteria, and this constant begging, that is, even europe actually understands what place it occupies in the sun and who, what is worth in this world, well , you know, uh, in fact, because in fact all

this is tragic for the ukrainian people. a story that began earlier, but reached its goal culmination in the last year and a half, it essentially became the last nail, as if in the coffin of total domination , another thing is that the new system has not yet been built, this time, indeed, and the most important thing is that the united states and the atlanticists, theirs there fans in europe have not yet recognized that this world has changed, that is, what the fight is now going on for, for the united states... after all, this is a very important point, which often produces many polarities in these discussions, it's not about defeat the united states, yes, that is, once they achieve their collapse, collapse, i don’t know anything else there, or, let’s say, even the european union, alexander lukashenko said correctly in this sense that he is precisely despite the fact that he can hardly say that now minsk has good relations with brussels, but he, as the leader of belarus , is definitely not interested in the failure of the european

union and its collapse and so on, we are talking about creating a system where, on such issues, what is the ukrainian question or the palestinian question, no, or is there a question north korea or any other, or there are issues common to all humanity, global warming there and so on, how the european concert worked in the 19th century, here’s just an example, by the way, we have prepared a caricature of the european concert, please see it on the screen, here’s the system similar to the one they want to build at the moment, yes, this is how it is... yes , continue, oleg, please, yes, well , you see, this again, there were fights, but what gave it was a european concert - this is a product of the vienna systems of international relations, from 1815 to 1914, and at that time, for the first time in the history of mankind, europe did not know a single major war, by the way, to be honest, the number of conflicts

was probably even less than, for example, now, yes, that is in this sense, how did the european concert work? here a situation arises, the greeks rebelled against the ottoman empire, they want to secede, achieve their independence, the same story with the serbs is happening, all the states called by the great powers are gathering, great britain, france, prussia, austria-henria, well, the austrian empire, then austria-hungary, naturally russia , are discussing how we will get out of this conflict, even if some country from these great powers does not have a direct interest in a particular history, it is always invited, for example, it was in 1860, if i'm not mistaken, a big conference in berlin africa, yes, where they divided the colonies in africa, the sphere of influence in africa, again, i'm not saying that it was good, but it was the era when we europeans ruled the whole world , yes, and we all have our own conflicts, then they lost this control of the world, and so everyone gathers in berlin, including russia

, which does not have a colony in africa and did not have, did not lay claim to them, including, for example, the austra-verenga, which is exactly the same, why, because they are great powers , status is obliged, that’s exactly the same thing, in fact, this is what such leaders are trying to achieve today. like putin, kakinpin and so on, on any issue, if it arises, everyone gathers, but the key voice is the country that is located in a particular region, on issues of, say, the south caucasus, belarus, ukraine is the key voice for moscow, and on issues of the middle east, for example, the key voice there will be for iran, turkey and saudi arabia; on issues of the western hemisphere, the key vote will be for the united states and brazil, well - everyone participates in all discussions, but no such that the situation with ukraine, a country right on the borders of russia , which just yesterday had a common capital in moscow, is being decided by the americans even without discussion with moscow, it’s impossible to even imagine such a thing, but today russia is changing this

situation, forces oneself to respect. olek , thank you, we will hear the opinion of alexander lukashenko, the leader of the republic of belarus, please, for some reason in the european union they believe that we are opponents of the european union , belarus, you know. we are not vindictive people and despite the current turbulence in the european union and the sanctions that the european union is introducing against us, you should know that the president of belarus is an ardent supporter of preserving the european union, not because i really love the european union, but because the european the alliance with the usa, china, and maybe russia and india are strong to some extent. pillars of our existence, our planet, and if this support is torn out from under this system, it will be very bad for everyone, we really want the european union to be a powerful,

strong, sovereign and independent association, we are aimed at this, and you should know, with all the nuances in relations and even the policy that... today the union is pursuing in relation to belarus, we are supporters of the union. we are concluding our discussion, so i give the final word of today's program, 30 seconds, to each participant, nikolai, please. the most important thing that our viewers in the republic of belarus should hear is that everything depends not only on the undoubtedly great powers. now due to the development of the media. every vote for peace is almost 10 million belarusian votes, they are extremely important for us to preserve human civilization.