[000:00:00;00] like all the necessary furniture for study and relaxation, a barrier-free environment is also provided, some blocks have been equipped for people with disabilities, the project provides for two buildings on 20 and 11 floors, one of them will house 530 students of the university of informatics and radio electronics, their neighbors will be half a thousand future doctors, in general i really like everything, huge spacious blocks, it’s very good that there is a stove, oven, oven right in the heart. i still somehow helped build this hostel, i had a hand in it, they helped together with they are building next to the student councils, they removed the blocks, currently, along with the opening of this large dormitory for two universities, the construction of two dormitories for universities of physical culture and sports is already underway, we plan that in the spring of next year it will be put into operation for 700 places, a second dormitory, which is also currently under construction

for the belarusian national. university, it is planned for delivery around august-september next year. dormitories for belarusian state technological university. sit and watch. two modern buildings are connected by a two-story extension that houses a leisure center, assembly and gym rooms, lecture rooms and a cafeteria. in total, about 80,000 students live in 120 dormitories in the country. and i have all the news by this time. information frame. my colleague lyudmila kazak will add at 3:00

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on... a very sensitive topic: discuss changes in tax legislation, talk about business in belarusian and discuss all the nuances. as always, kiril kazakov and alena syrova are on air, but you can also become participants in our program, here at the bottom of the screen there is a qr code, point your smartphone at it and write your question or your opinion, we will try to sort it out together with experts or voice it in air. well, in the lower right corner, there is a link to our telegram channel, if you want to know more about ours. team about our talk show, join us, hello, good evening, you know, it so happened that any, any topic that we bring up regarding small businesses or the business of individual entrepreneurs always concerns some kind of political basis, well , it seems like we always talk only about taxes and talk only about money, like

how is it about making money, and what kind of politics is there, but always, but in our country these are the most offended, then in our country the ipshniki are people who have been taxed, now the introduction of any tax on wealth is, again, a social explosion, well , actually i mean, it's so strange history in our country, and when we bring up this topic, we even said before the program, will they really introduce a wealth tax , will they pay it, well, here’s the second question, there really are tax crimes all over the world, they are one of the most serious, for them one of the most terrible punishments. on the other hand, the cunning people of our planet deceive the state in any country, irina vasilievna, in your opinion, in general, the topic of entrepreneurship, probably since our country gained independence, the topic of entrepreneurship, it always raises some social and political circles are going on in the water, despite the fact that they always talk about the economy, why is that? well, firstly, because we lived

for 80 years. it was considered, especially, that zhanna kazimirovna and i started working back in the nineties, we worked as scientists, we were not involved in business, but we worked for various people. methodological instructions there and so on, helped to form these enterprises, so they were faced with this and it is clear that the people treated it, since people began to engage business in the absence of a legislative framework, so then you could earn a lot , because you could take it, sell it , and pay nothing, everything, yes, yes, absolutely right, well, there was no legislation, and accordingly, people watched how it they made so much money out of the blue, and it’s clear that this is a negative attitude. arose, in fact, if you look at entrepreneurship, at business abroad, and even if 50% of our budget revenue is generated by who, zhana kazimirovna, generates,

business is formed by entrepreneurs, and business, as a rule, is small, well, at best , medium, large business is a completely different article, that’s why people who are trying to say that business is something negative, let them... they won’t remember that even if they are state employees, they receive a salary, eat and drink, plus a social package, it’s like in the soviet union they said the poor, the poor state gave out free apartments, education was free, medicine was free, plus everything, in fact, you can was back in go to the sanatorium, don’t pay for the roads, pour as much water as you can and there were no meters there, for example, that water costs a penny, so literally today we are with our students, so i talked, i say: “ today you don’t know , how rich are you, water is free, access to clean water, yes, we have problems there with iron contained in water, but that’s another question, water is free, the air is clean, well, that’s also

relative, but in any case not so much for that just a base that you understand, we they got used to not noticing, just like the proverbial story about the clear sky above our heads, and our independence, well, that’s all. let me explain to our viewers that the topic of today’s broadcast is, of course, inspired by many factors, but primarily by the fact that literally from day to day, as the bird on our tail brought us, the house of representatives will , among other things, consider changes - to our tax code, and one of the short stories concerns that same wealth tax, six months ago they remembered the changes again and talked about how they live entrepreneurs, here we go again, listen, well, changes from the first ... let's figure out what is called in order, alexander, if we are talking about this term wealth tax, in general why now in belarus there is a need to resort to

such a measure, in our country a lot of wealthy people suddenly appeared, opponents of the authorities say that in this way, it means the state wants to earn money in order to feed, well, the security forces, public sector employees, from different... spheres, well, let’s understand them all these trends, well, if you look on this problem more broadly, then we will see that the progressive scale, well, which can be understood as wealth, a tax on wealth , it already existed before, we had it in practice, a single rate for income tax, it, well, let’s say, is not sovereign occupies more than 50% of the time in the history of belarus, which means taxes are 20% to 25, that’s the goal of the state? on the one hand, it may seem that there is not enough money, yes, indeed, it will change the progressive scale, i assume that it will increase tax

revenue, on the other hand, maybe this connected with social justice, because as there is such an expression as good, for some the soup is rare, for others the pearls are small. you earn 10-15,000 rubles per year. you earn 100-150, well, now we are talking about more than 200,000 rubles. i'm just saying this for comparison. 200,000 rubles per year is just over 6,000 rubles per month, which is not that much. 1600, but still it's 5,000 dollars, it's 3,000 dollars, 5,000 dollars? 5,000 dollars, yes about 5,000 dollars, but even by european standards i would not say that this is such a large amount, that is well, how would you like to push back if, if we appeal again to international experience, then they are the same, well, the same wealth tax is present in other countries, well

, if we are there as a rule, with whom we compare ourselves, traditionally we compare there here we take the american model, here we take the soviet union or the russian one, well , it is also present in europe, in europe. in europe, too, all this is present, well, i don’t see a global problem in reducing this tax, but at the beginning there won’t be any problems, but then that’s it. there you go the average figure voiced by some representatives of our government, they say that we have about 9,000 people, who , strictly speaking, can be affected, and then there are about 7,000, these are those who can really be called dollar millionaires, that is, in principle, 9 there are a half million country with a population of 9,000 - this is not so much, however , i say again why this topic is now being brought into the political plane, because when you, for example, hear that now if you buy an expensive one. well you'll have to transport tax to pay 10 times more, well, this is not so, zhana kazimirovna, tell me,

our entrepreneurs, they will be afraid of this story, or, as i said, how the entire population of the earth will try like this, well , i don’t think that entrepreneurs will be scared, and we must clearly understand that tax legislation, as regards these 200,000, is not only for entrepreneurs, it is generally for any citizen who receives such income, you understand that most often such income is received from us. business representatives, yes, yes, but these are representatives who can be hired employees, a manager who works as a director at an enterprise, he can be a completely hired employee, yes , let’s say, a director of any other enterprise, of course he can be too, or a doctor, for example, this one is well paid, it’s exactly the same an individual, so to say that entrepreneurs will suddenly get scared today, well, probably, even based on the statistics that we... have on taxes, well, there are

2-3-4% of violators, no more, yes, but they are everywhere, therefore, we have a fairly law-abiding business in terms of paying taxes, and the tax system that exists, it tracks the income of individuals quite well, including, so i don’t think that tomorrow we will go into the shadows and not pay taxes, well look, there’s all this talk about the need to transfer, for example, your business... from an individual entrepreneur to a legal entity, and either become self-employed or move from self-employed, these debates in the house of representatives about what needs to be done to shorten the list of ip specialties in general, yes, because people understand that all this is being done in order to somehow increase taxes, we ourselves understand perfectly well that when you were an ip specialist and you paid one amount, and they tell you, well i’m sorry, your, let’s say, wholesale trade is not now in the ip category, you need to create some kind of company and pay more taxes for this,

in this regard, this is a normal european trend, when this is a normal european trend, moreover, i i want to say that here as soon as changes appeared in the tax code, a wealth tax appeared, a car tax appeared for the rich, and so on and so forth, business had a demand for the law that we recently criticized about changes in legislation on entrepreneurship, because for any . subject has the opportunity to choose , i may not be an individual entrepreneur, not pay high taxes there at 25% income tax, i can switch to a legal entity, remain on the simplified taxation system, pay 6%, here there is a request today from business, it already exists, so it is very important not at all from the point of view of paying or not paying taxes, it is very important to simultaneously adopt such

regulatory legal acts... you do it and pay it on your phone, now taxes are very convenient, in principle you you understand your salary, which you still have anyway, you won’t get the same nails done in a year, then you don’t seem to have an incentive to grow, and if you suddenly hire someone else and start a business, then you have an incentive to grow. these are the laws, they, despite their such seemingly crocodile-like dangers, yes, on the other hand, well, it’s as if people are being pushed to grow, i must say that even in this draft law that we are talking about, it provides for a seamless transition, this time, and secondly, there it is also stipulated that business entities of not up to 15, but up to 50 people, who will become legal entities, will be able to enjoy those benefits or those simplified regimes that could be used before. in time, and

this makes it possible to grow from pants, by and large, yes, i will no longer look at my 2, 3, 5, 10, yes, i can grow to 50, nothing will change for me, so i can think about the future, it seems to me that just- so, those people who are really busy with their work and their business, they actually have fewer questions about these changes than ordinary people who just read about it and passed by this. but i want to clarify the fact with dmitry stanislavovich, they said here that we are very law-abiding. regarding payment of taxes, and yes, somehow we have such a bias immediately towards business, that only businessmen are able to hide their income there, somehow not pay taxes, but surely in other areas there are unscrupulous citizens,

well, as a rule, well, i want to immediately to begin with, the head of our state, receiving a report from the minister of taxation and duty and the chairman of the state control committee of the republic of belarus, said paying taxes is... therefore, since we have a socially oriented state and we must, let’s say, the tax burden should be, of course, understandable, simple fair, then, let’s say, the balance of interests between business , entrepreneurship will be maintained and the law enforcement bloc will also be respected, look, can i play with the word justice a little now for you, because everyone still considers the word fair as in your direction, right, look, with the same cars, where? that line, when my car will be made expensive, this amount will be determined, this is the first, this is the second story, and how will people be punished for this non-payment, there will be cameras hanging, fines, or they will check how this tax is, well, this road tax was paid, because now it actually amounts to a little money, well, relatively speaking, up to there

40 rubles, so i paid, well i’ll have to pay 400, and someone else 1000, that’s how this justice will be assessed, how the line will be about well , look, you already answered just before that you’ve chosen something that will only affect 9,000 people, as it were, that is, in in principle , not everyone speaks with cars, there will be a little more, yes, well, i think that look, all the time before this they introduced this transport tax, and remember the public is also like this, but at the moment we see that everyone, in principle , pays fairly, and let’s say this tax is fair , this does not mean that everyone likes what everyone pays, this does not mean that everyone likes it, no one ever likes taxes. as if the question is that the fact of the matter is that there must be fair ones so that, let’s say, the majority likes it, or the majority evaluates it as fair, fair and - they, say, can pay them, this is very important, like an assessment, yes, but what are you saying, how will the camera record it, well, you’ve already run so far, you’re

still in favor of the law, well, what’s the people’s question? , you know that as soon as they told us that our cars would be expensive, what if we don’t have a home, our telephone will be expensive? the car is expensive, these are two things that in the national mentality, you can sell everything, take out loans, the main thing is that the car is expensive, a telephone, well, everyone has that your position, well, let’s return to my question, yes , with regards to the areas in which taxes are most often evaded, look, in principle, taxes are evaded in all areas, yes, there are simply, there are different mechanisms, let’s say, if we rewind a little history. then at one time the financial investigation bodies as part of the state control committee fought against such a lie as false entrepreneurship, yes, that is , when one-day companies were used to withdraw money there, not

pay taxes to the budget and, accordingly, were applied, there were groups that created these financial companies, and then , let’s say, this evil was defeated, new schemes appeared, business divisions, that somewhere it was more, somewhere it was less, but if we take, for example, also, well, i can say one thing that throughout , let’s say, the period of the financial investigation bodies, hidden revenue was in the beginning, now exists, this scheme of concealing revenue, of course, you know in such areas first of all, as retail trade, where it is possible not to record cash, also of course, now this is often found in taxi transportation services, both in principle regular and so, where one on one, two people

will agree on anything , if you used the services of a taxi, then sometimes the driver even asks whether you need a receipt there or not, that is, well, we know - at gas stations they ask whether you need a receipt or not, so i can’t help, okay, there at gas stations, the price is we have the same gasoline installed, but it doesn’t matter they ask whether a check is needed or not, this is saving paper, i think that’s good, okay , let it be so, so to answer your question, that in principle, uh, nowadays this can be found in every area, yes, the question is about the amounts , where there is a lot of money, they don’t pay more, i will say more, for your practice, what was the largest amount? mm, well, without an example, i’ll give you the latest implementation of the minsk department, the amount was, this is an online store, the preliminary amount of unpaid taxes amounted to 9.5 million belarusians. personal amount, well, that’s normal, vladimir aleksandrovich, look, the technopark, in principle, its essence is that there are low

taxes there in order, strictly speaking, to come create your own business, we are accustomed to the fact that entrepreneurs are, first of all, people , which are engaged in buy and sell, a technology park is a start for doing, producing something, yes, in general this is a story about reducing taxes, it works for you, but i’ll try it in a comprehensive manner. my colleagues have already said a word that i really liked, i will somehow use it a catapult, that is, we basically exist for this purpose, a technology park and not only a technology park, we have a fairly broad infrastructure to support entrepreneurship, it is important to know how to use it, and to know where to find - certain advantages that technology parks, incubators provide, this means our high-tech park, great stone, our free economic zones, and they all have certain preferences for entrepreneurs and not necessarily tax breaks,

for example, in the minsk technopark, the general order provides for the payment of income tax at a rate of 10%, that is, but this is a significant benefit for those entrepreneurs of enterprises that have already exceeded this, look, we are used to the htp enjoying benefits, but the htp has everything in chocolate, how simple am i why , ordinary people have a comparison, here the htp is doing well, how many technoparks are up to the level of this htp at least in terms of taxes, but we do not compete with each other, we are completely different, that is, the purpose is a little bit, we rather work with hardware enterprises and companies that do something significant that you can touch with your hands, this is our story, htp they have the principle of extraterritoriality, a little other benefits, that’s it, but their companies, well , until recently, now the situation has changed, they needed a conditional table there , a chair, the internet, but ours need a lot of other things, and engineering infrastructure, prepared premises and some machines, we

provide these kinds of benefits, not benefits, or rather, but opportunities for entrepreneurs, specifically production workers, not to spend all your profit or proceeds at the start-up stage to buy yourself machines, but to use those that we have there at low rates, well, besides this, we are also trying to create such a wave in society that would captivate and draw in the maximum number of people into entrepreneurship in the production sector, so we hold various competitions, competitions, startups, for example, now together with the great stone, today we have just a month left to submit applications for startups, startups are small, not even yet enterprises, rather teams that have their own project, so they have the opportunity to participate in the competition, receive a significant prize, there we will give away the full 10,000, well, until the end of november... but tell me, here is the growth in numbers, relatively speaking,

let's start there in october of the twenty-second year, now here is the twenty-third, is there any quantitative , numerical growth in how much people, companies, i don’t know, startups turn to you for help , get it, well, first of all, we we work with those who have already come to us constantly, that is well, at the stage, i don’t know, there’s an ambulance, something happened to someone, we try to help solve problems, it’s not always money, and even more often than not, it’s not money, but there are all sorts of problems, there are problems, what do you have? -there are no certain employees, which means someone has a very expensive loan , we have an agreement, for example, with belinvest bank, we refinance at a lower interest rate, or for example, the city has an excellent tool so that those who have already received loans means helping, paying off part of the interest, up to 50. at the expense of city ​​funds. zhanna kazimirovna, here’s a question for me, yes, you have some kind of connection

with the technopark, i understand that we have known each other for a long time, well, i understand, great, just tell me, well, well, we kind of came out, i understand, that entrepreneurs turn to you not only for support, for you to tell us how to avoid taxes, i’m joking, but i think that, in principle, for you to suggest to us some ways of development, for example, we are talking about that i'm actually engaged in some kind of trade, you know? i have capital, i want develop production, how do you contribute? well, as a rule, when entrepreneurs come to us, we have, well, a set of tools, yes , we first listen to the problem, does he need a guarantee problem, does he need this other board, does he need a machine, and so on, and then we then, based on this , we recommend that you can go to a guarantee fund, a fund for financial support of entrepreneurship, you need premises, low rent, machines, you can go to a technology park. needed for someone practically prepare a business plan, simply, you can go to the entrepreneurship support center and so on, that is,

today there is an infrastructure that supports an entrepreneur. yes, maybe it requires certain changes, and the most important thing is for an entrepreneur to come somewhere and ask if he will come to the union, will he come to the support center, will he come to the district center, but it seems to me that here we are at the beginning programs, but irina vasilyevna just said, we lived for 80 years without entrepreneurship, yes, well, of course we let’s omit those moments that related to speculation, resale, shuttle buses that yulia konstantinna carried there, it seems to me that, well, this is shuttle business, this is buy and sell - this is, well, the first such primitive stage in the chain evolution, entrepreneurial activity, earning initial capital, yes, now we, well at the state level, are encouraging our citizens to become more mature, well

, to create their own industries, if this step is not... taken, if these measures are not taken, then , what could it be? well, it’s clear that they will trade there in the same way in the same volume in which we did it before? or will we just start to degrade? well, we will definitely begin to degrade, because what is happening now is the transition to the so-called civilized entrepreneurship, that is, this is the understanding that this is trade and shuttle business, yes, it is correct, to earn the first capital, but what is it to bring goods and sell it here. this is no investment in the development of that very economy, you bring, you spend the same currency in order to bring this product here, instead of developing production, stimulating our enterprises, business, working here, working with our people, working with the development of technology, without added value, that’s right, then yes, yes, yes, absolutely, for ourselves, for ourselves,

we work for ourselves, and if we look at the statistics that today... are published, including by our committee, we will see that basically all individual entrepreneurial involved in the field why trade, transportation, this is basically trade, transportation, these are such services , that is, none, very few are those who are engaged in real production, yes, yes, they do not create that added value of everyone who buy and sell with those it’s really something not just to divide, but to give them a chance or give them the opportunity to grow, which i would like to maybe add a little here, yes, that’s the question, i can agree with this, but we also need to look at the social aspect, who is an individual entrepreneur in the field of trade, yes, what the number of people, well, if we take all individual entrepreneurs, there are about 263 thousand active; in the conditions

of 9.5 million people, it’s not that much, it’s not much, but on the other hand, we should if we take a merchant, yes, that is, that’s about it , what we are talking about, these are people 50 plus, that is, they will work for another, well, 5, 10 years, yes, then it has already come, this is trade, online trade, then came trade, retail chains and so on, and so that’s why it’s probably quite difficult for these people to change their minds and go into production; they are mostly regions, they just need to be helped to move into a civilized one... for example, a private unitary enterprise, if our conditions change, to show that this is practically possible, and here, probably, this is the role of infrastructure, such as business support centers and small incubators business is very important, and the same unions, territorial, specifically on the pistas, which will help to develop, but for a friend, why was it good for me anyway, they don’t close it, i

’m trading, he says they’re pushing me. the only thing is that your taxes will be higher high, yes, accordingly, no one forbids you to stay today, there is a financial police here that speaks, so there is an opportunity for advice, so you can stay, become a legal entity in the grand scheme of things, because you could do nothing at all in relation to the laws, but how for example, abroad, here in germany there is a practice as soon as you hire a person. the same as for a legal entity, this could also be an option in principle, then you can remain an individual entrepreneur, but with almost any taxes that they will comply, we had employees in order to pay once a year, just a little, but maybe it was good,

because they are self-employed, it was delayed. unemployed people, they gave themselves work, they did not demand unemployment benefits, they did not sit at home, they earned money to feed themselves and their family, this is the same... how often did the financial police check the activities of individual entrepreneurs whose, well, let’s say turnover per month no more than 5,000 rubles. well, well, relatively speaking, to be honest, this is minimal checks, so if we started talking about individual entrepreneurs, yes, that is, with such turnover , well, you know, our service is not numerous, and we cannot spread ourselves thin, we deal only with large financial ones, let’s say so. so here, since we are talking about ip, yes, we must clearly distinguish that yes, there is an entrepreneur who trades, we want him to become a production worker, yes,

but among this mass of entrepreneurs and at present there are a lot of such, let’s say, pseudo-entrepreneurs, well, let me give you an example: a person gets a job by letting we even carried out an example in an llc that is engaged in retail trade, a chain of stores. they tell him, if you want to work with us and get money, you must first register an individual entrepreneur, he says: why, i ’m getting a job as an employee for you, he says , no, you must register an individual entrepreneur, you will be like an entrepreneur, our accountant will do everything for you lead, will help open you, that is , the person did not intend to carry out an individual entrepreneurial activity, of course, they are engraving, almost every shelf in store, in the media business it is very common, believe me, further on this entrepreneur, but they take him out, they do it to him for his services, supposedly he provides. there are some kind of marketing services, yes, although he performs at his place of work, as it were, that is , marketing work, for example, in the selection of goods there, roughly speaking, well, colossal sums are dumped on him, these sums are cashed out

and transferred to the owner this business, this is present in the construction business, in leasing, in principle, also in every area, so entrepreneurs like these don’t bring any benefit to our society , to our state. moreover, a person came to get a job, so he wants to get paid so that he can get experience, yes, but they tell him, you should be an entrepreneur, as if, before the age of 50, no one doesn’t think about it, just like no one needs free healthcare until he’s 50 years old, and then oh, well, the question arises that a person is a hostage to this situation, as it were, that he’s being forced to stand up by his entrepreneurs, as if that is, in order, again, to why are we starting our program? with these changes in legislation we

are minimizing the likelihood of such false ips? well, you see, here of course - there is minimization in any case, but there is always a subjective factor we must take into account, that is, no matter how much we change the legislation, if we say, our leader, of some commercial structure, if he has it in mind that i don’t want pay into the budget, he will look for new and new ones. alyon, there is such a word, schematosis, purely russian, you understand, but they go to the regions because they understand that taxes are lower there, yes, yes, of course, because of this, that’s what you think , did the program really achieve what you expected, that’s what you can say, well, from my point of view, this program has its own, well, its own the goal has been achieved, well, maybe not fully, just as the maximum effect has not been achieved, but the goal has been achieved, you just have to remember that we mention the minsk

region there, but here the task is more global, the redistribution of resources within the country, and we did not mention such a program as the development of the arshansky district, for example, until the twenty-third year, just this year, some results will be summed up. and the purpose of the program, in addition to this is how to lure, well, preferences, benefits and so on , and accordingly the redistribution of these labor resources, uh, ensuring employment of the population, that is, these are not only taxes for someone, this includes, well, yes, taxes without taxes are not possible here, but how to provide for or how to leave young specialists, yes, well, in the same orsha region, because everyone is being displaced. everyone wants minsk and minsk region, but what should the regions do? well, a third of the country

lives here, what should we do? it turns out that these programs are regional, the pilot was from the arshansky district program, a number of production facilities were launched there with the participation of the ministry of industry and economics and the academy of sciences there, well, everyone signed up for it, the local authorities signed up, well, a lot of work has been done, they mentioned . mentioned about the iron-free station, i know that there is an academician there together with belaz and an iron-free station, which is now being exported, there are such factories there as a tool. they are also trying to revive them, to put the plant-building industry at the service of the country, the same red fighter, that is, this is a restart of these processes, well , it takes place, how effective is this - this is the second question, but this is what you say : reanimation, to recreate yes, but to create something something new, so that it stimulates the emergence, if you read the program, the development of the arshan

district until the twenty-third year, there is a whole range of measures for the development of this program, the ministry of economy has developed a whole complex of measures, which is the creation of new industries, and well, the backing of which is preferential tax regimes and other , well, preferences, look, there are examples when the creation of production led to the fact that an entire economic region was created, the simplest one is soligorsk, construction mines, city construction. there is novopolotsk, now, for example, ostrovets, when the construction of a nuclear power plant entailed the development of infrastructure, it’s clear that somewhere there i can’t and don’t want to, you’re forcing, you help, still, yes, yes, but it is effective, and i have a philosophical question for you , look, we are talking, again, about the fact that we are trying to force our entrepreneurs, for example, buy, sell, go to some industrial then business, but i

just think like, media. in russia, for example, there is a certain program for journalists, for film scriptwriters, where they put the very idea of ​​doing business in such a positive light, that is, if you lose your job, you will most likely think about, for example , starting your own business in belarus , whatever one may say, for us, the first place is still the search for some kind of work at a state enterprise, or at an already established enterprise, but far from this... we are accustomed to the fact that if you work at some enterprise, then this is some kind of certain stability, this is a position, this is a salary, you fulfill your duties and for this you are paid a certain salary, plus a certain social package, doing business is difficult, it scares many, what if it doesn’t work out, what if, what if something happens will happen, i will go bankrupt, what will i do, i have a family, children, a house and so on, yes.

if yes, if you are not alone, if you want to create an enterprise, you must pay wages, you must support people, you are responsible for these people, of course, it’s difficult to decide on this, it’s quite difficult, maybe in russia there are more tools, here i am finished with the word schematosis, but that’s what they call it in the russian outback, but let’s stir up schematosis and let’s do this, let’s do that, let’s do that, there for the fifth time you’ve finally found your business, they seem to say, well, you can take out a loan, you can do something else, we have... they’ve already said please provide help, but there is a situation that many of ours, the same entrepreneurs, don’t listen, it’s taken out , a new bill, some kind of discussion, yes, how many people , how many interested will take part in this discussion, so as not to say later, but they didn’t tell me, i didn’t know and didn’t see it at all. that is, this is

probably not enough, active participation in the fact that the country, in the fact that the state , in the fact that business does for beginner entrepreneurs, this is our quite serious, i’ll add two points, yes, which exist, it’s very important in general to begin with, to understand that i will be doing a good job, and i i will do something that will bring me income, but i will tell you about the events of 2013, when we arrived in brest. region, to the village , talk to people who would like to, well , start a business, the farmer says: i grow raspberries, this one gathered two villages, asked, is ready to teach how to grow raspberries, give bushes, and take it to malina, and around then he said that the annual income per person would be 500 rubles, in principle there was a business plan, he asked how many people do you think wanted it, i myself am from western belarus, i

decided that, well, the village exactly one of the two, yes, he said, no, five, people, two started studying, what was the answer, why not, yes, because i will go to the collective farm and earn 300 rubles, i’ll steal 300 rubles, why do i need 500, this one there is still a question: where is the eternity of the citizens who are used to it, who will come to work, maybe not earning wages, but they want to be paid. yes, and this is one aspect, the second point, even in order to do business, there is a big reserve here - these are young people, but when here the question is already addressed to the media, to our bloggers, to our telegram channels, when you open telegram- channel of the regulatory body and you read, the inspection passed, fined, criminal liability, administrative liability, and there are no positive examples, here it’s purely psychological, that means i also have to break

something, i also have a responsibility, we need to break this bias, we really need to show more positive results in terms of people wanting to become non- guest officials. you can’t talk about good examples, reporting, well, your work is not a good example, the simplest, the simplest , checked 300 violators, then the dfr will be ineffective, the work turns out we are not here for inefficiency, as if we should find a middle ground. it's always a sword between two ends, here again i will give the example of russia, because as a union state you live in the information field, you look at what they have, and so they have, for example, how many times over the last year have we heard news about food poisoning or alcoholic products, but at the same time they have a moratorium on inspections, you have no right

, not a single inspection agency can come, because in fact this moratorium exists, well, i don’t know, maybe the slavic soul is such that, well, where something... there us, despite the fact that we seem to be the same, in terms of nationality, and there are belarusians , russians, the same mentality, but we understand perfectly well that we have such things, for example, poisoning, well, it’s extremely incredible, precisely because the inspection services work, i’ll give you an example, as they say from friday, perhaps absolutely accurately , it has nothing to do with business as such, when the head of state and i went to novaya okolitsa, where they showed the houses, you probably saw everything, right? who do everything correctly, every step is time and money, they looked, after the request of the head of state, they looked, it turned out

that this list could be reduced by three times, but the deputy prime minister himself said that it is beneficial for those who build and developers to have more of these. steps, because in this way you can spread it over a larger number of residents and so on and so forth, for each payment, well , everything is understood here, you pay, so this is how to find this golden balance, the golden mean between the interests of the state, justice and more, so that a person does not work at a loss, like irinavna, you know the question here, you can think like this, if it’s state-owned, then the state is responsible and that means a fairer story, before we discussed this story with my colleague igor tur, he says: look, there is a fixed cost these houses, but it has already been publicly announced there, 60,000 dollars, 70,000 dollars and so on , but no one will forbid a conditional private owner

from buying 15 of these houses and selling them for 150,000 dollars, that’s right, this is a market, this is a market, yes this is a market, it turns out, so the state seems to have... kept its obligations, but a person simply may not have such an opportunity to buy these houses, but what to do, well, you know, what i wanted was not for this reason, that’s when they talked about that no one wants to do business, thank god, why, because , we talked, now i’ll explain why, there is, this is a theoretical approach, three properties that an entrepreneur should have, first, we rush into business, sell paint , sew. this is the most primitive business, it is considered business should be run by a person who sees the market, and only a specialist can see the market, but you won’t go, kiril , to sell paint, if you start a private enterprise, you will make media, they will buy paint at such a price that they will immediately

kick me out of work, you’d better head a media holding, you know, that’s exactly what business is, so the point is that you need someone who has at least... secondary specialized education to run the business and has an idea about this segment, because very often from children in villages without an education, which means they get loans, start studying, go broke, then the financial police come to them, and of course, they are subject to punishment vasilna, you touched on this topic, not me, pedagogy and education, so how many of us do we have? people who go to study, for example, to study, realizing that they want to be a professional. bgu, i don’t see it as obvious to myself anymore, no, i want to say, to be a person. i’m telling you about the obvious, on the contrary, i’m saying that he

shouldn’t, well, some of course go straight away i want businessman, i give lectures, they do certification, they know that they will come to government agencies, they have equipment there, i say, well, no one knows how life will turn out, if you are a good certificate holder, you can open a private certification company, why not, by the way, they immediately thought about it, that is, what am i getting at, if you are a good specialist, you know that you are... 3% of the total population. there is a reserve, there is a reserve, yulia konstantinna, you are like a person from pedagogy, yes, tell

me, in general, people who come into business, study business, they understand where they are going, because it’s true , irina vasilievna says, and i also understand that a person graduated from school, how he started selling something, i don’t know, now it’s very fashionable to sell jeans in kufr, i bought it for 100, sold it for 120, then two at a time, wearing it for two weeks at a time, i have one of these here that lives in an apartment, so how many people come here for business? during my practice , i realized that these are the people who receive a second and subsequent higher education, that is, these are the people who have already done something somewhere they saw, they lack knowledge, they understand, they come for it, as for students who are receiving their first, their first higher education, then we are faced with a situation that they, they need to be pushed all the time, there must be motivation, you tell them and explaining what you can do, as irina vasilyevna says, you can do this within the country, for the state. understanding for yourself, yes, here i am a targetologist, i say, guys, this is wonderful, narrow, soon

artificial intelligence will replace you as a marketer, it will destroy you, and what will you do, you just need to look more broadly, and here we are then, konstantinna, we are just entering this global, what we were talking about recently again, and those very strategic projects that need to be controlled, because you can come up with, in connection with this, it’s just here that our guests got bored, and we were talking about whether people know or don’t know where to get some preferences, where to look for some kind of base, so it turns out that due to insufficient preparedness, maturity, they are simply not able to find this information, i am sure that many people don’t know the goodies they talked about, which are in our technopark, and for them it will be just a discovery, that is, how... we then want to stimulate entrepreneurial

activity, perhaps again through education, maybe we need more of these training faculties, look at how many people who , for example, want to engage in production, they also have an entrepreneurial spirit, well, we work with those who have already been formed as an enterprise, albeit a small one, but already enterprise, so if you have passed this stage , then i think that there is a vein, but in general entrepreneurs are... with a lower threshold, yes, fear, it’s like journalists, because, because any enterprise or some kind of entrepreneurial the process is always a struggle, it’s always an adventure, something won’t happen, when they said that we have enough tools, incentives and other things, you here something like that, shook your head, you don’t agree, alexander, with my points of view, you can come up with different different ones... incentives, here's one, two, three and technoparks, taxes, everything else, uh, that's what

we're missing, uh, clarity, here - every participant in legal relations must understand these advantages, and use them in practice, the opportunity to use it, and often you read a regulatory document, but with a higher legal education it’s difficult to understand, and today we’re talking about a technology park, but there is... a resource - everyone can apply to get something, this should be clearly understood, uh, i don’t want it there throw it into someone's garden pebble, but if you read about taxes, about the ease of paying taxes, well, somewhere we are probably criticized, probably not in vain on this matter, here is the ease of paying taxes, the ease of doing business, there are such indicators, international statistical indicators, here and to be honest, here... regarding the payment of taxes, the last transition was

a year or two ago, when, uh, work and services began to be valued differently, that is, the transition to 20. there was a whole queue at the tax inspectorates, because so they came up with the rules, and we didn’t know how to use them, so that it wouldn’t work out now, this topic , i’ll wait, so we can re-read it, we discussed this topic with many of these speakers in our program, you know what we came to there and i think that’s right, in the fact that people, when this transition was started, and it was started not a day before it happened, people absolutely did not look or think about how it would go. for a long time they simply didn’t think about it, and then, as they say, someone took the bait somewhere, and so - that’s just the point it’s about the fact that this is a complex problem, it doesn’t, it doesn’t mean that the ministry of taxation failed to cope with its task, uh, they didn’t carry out explanatory work, this is because everyone should get involved in this, which is what they were talking about, probably, at an earlier stage, probably, these issues should be raised

in advance, but with us, as is our habit, until the thunder strikes, the man will not cross himself. in fact, this is what we are talking about, why am i saying that i agree with something there or disagree, there are a lot of these problems, it’s just here, if you if you go into business, you must be, well, look one step ahead, be more perspicacious and understand that if tomorrow something changes in the taxation system, you need to bring the enterprise or there, your individual entrepreneur or some form of organization there, in such a way that there was no snow for you. on your head some kind of change that will require the closure of this company, or even worse, when you are forced to attribute something there , you will end up in the end, that is, in short, do not demand that the rules of the game not change and you that means i started it to be done, which means, to summarize, the mechanism must be so clear and simple , we clearly understand it, so that anyone who

reads the document knows the new rules, so that they know what to do and so that there is no such thing that they come alone to check. absolutely right, says a colleague, but i want to say where the business begins, no one thought about it, not with the fact that they will study taxes, how he will pay now, with the idea that ostav bender said when he spent the last 20 rubles, and that means this kozlevich said, 20 rubles the last one, he bought zosia sinitskaya a bouquet and said, the main idea, there is no idea, so the money. i spent on a bouquet, i was waiting for the idea to come, but i thought it was a dream, no, but a dream , because the white pants that i had to walk in rio, that’s a completely different story, and well, that too, that is, i’m getting to what, here we are talking about business, as a rule it concerns shopping, sewing bags, shoes, it is important , why are we not talking about high-tech business, you see, i have books, i tried

to say, i was told that this is not our story, the projects that are proposed. .. business we will have a forum on the first or third, i invite you all to an oil forum on petrochemicals, where you are welcome, i’m not lying, look, kiril, come up with 15 projects, take it and do it, it’s called, look, what to do, please , well, look, if we talk , for example, even about salaries, which are the highest in our country, this is first of all it, the same bnbk, which says that well, it’s like biotology, this is the business, that’s it into business as a business, not as a manager in some government company, how many people come with their developments, yes, yes, i’m telling you, i’m telling you, our graduates have created a company in novolukomlis, i’m afraid to read what they do, you come out with advertising, well, come on, okay, no, no , i’m not with advertising,

because i don’t know them, i’ll say right away, i don’t know them, i’ve never encountered them, i can write what they do. additive and detergent and used as a lubricant for fiberglass, this is done by a small enterprise, that is, when you say who can do it, why do i say that you need to get at least some kind of special education, chemists - this does not mean that they work at large state enterprises, here you go , 15% of these projects that will be built near large businesses. this is not only shoes and what we are talking about correctly, we are talking about the fact that when ais appeared in ostrovets, it is clear that many different related enterprises and needs will appear, we are again talking about strategic global projects that for opens us with a kiss new, but tell me what might be the most high-profile business

you have, which was opened in your technopark, well, let’s say so that it would be interesting for journalists, maybe not as smart as something interesting, some i can’t say, like that well, well, well, but publicly, that is so in order, for a number of reasons , but publicly, yes, publicly, well, perhaps you don’t know that... here is the aurus project that he drives, putin’s cartesh, yes, these all the machines, some of the units, they were created in belarus, were developed here and are standing on these cars, you see, very good advertising, in this case it’s very good, well then who already remembers , it means there was such a project in russia yo mobile, yes prokhorov, you know where he is, yes, who, well, he’s in prokhorov showed belarus here, he showed, no, it’s standing here, the last of the copies, here, they made it on selitskoye street, listen, so, then

the question arises, yes, it’s a mobile, then where is our electric car, well, for now it’s my mobile, there’s no other one here, well, people are working on other projects there, we’re waiting, maybe sooner than the academy of sciences will even show us, look, here are some examples, and there are mobil there and a number of others, even by russian standards , large projects, large investors, systemic ones with billions, they also get something that doesn’t work out, that’s the question, what it’s not working, maybe we need to do some work on the mistakes, sit down, the business community , government agencies, everyone is interested, we’re looking to see what omissions we’re making, because we ’re discussing now, we’re looking for some, we’re trying to find out the weak ones strengths, these are these models for the development of the economy of the republic of belarus, we are looking for incentives and so on , but... we are working on mistakes, these historical ones, we started this project, it didn’t work out, we actually have a lot of these projects that have started, it seems, now so, in your opinion, what is the problem?

this is a complex problem , we won’t discuss it in one program, we just need to say that there may be another series to be released, work on the mistakes, so to speak, to see what the problem is globally, these are taxes, well, i wouldn’t say that taxes will be marginal. stone, entrepreneurial risk, well, yes, risk, in what sense is entrepreneurial, every subject should have the right to make a mistake, so that it doesn’t happen that he made a mistake somewhere, that means he, this is there, whether there are mistakes there or not, they will say , is there another chance or not, this concerns the director ’s corps, there, we forgot one main thing , yes, you already touched on the topic, but you interrupted me a little, i would like to continue, you

said a telegram channel, they write violations there, the main thing is also important - this is prevention when an entrepreneur we identified this violation in the telegram channel, the second one thinks , well, i have the same problem in my store, the third one, so maybe we can’t avoid what is happening in the russian federation, as you cited example, when there is poisoning, yes, that is, what does he think, why do we need these problems, you know, i had one , let’s finish, so that you can quickly, briefly, accept, that’s what he told me when he speaks, dima, if any- then taxes are necessary pay, you tell me, but i don’t want to be shown on tv, so it’s better not to tell me, but find out for yourself, work hard, they said it right here, business is responsibility, including responsibility for what, for what you do , for what your tomorrow will be like, so take the trouble to find out for yourself, you see, there will be fewer problems, well, our paradigm is changing, because we all understand that we used to go to markets, now... marketplace, go, order, buy, that’s it the same thing, just a beautiful photographed tent on the market, now indeed, business is when you come up with something new, after all, it’s the 21st century, you need