the state in the bowels of the prosecutor general's office today needs to crystallize the basis of this future system, train personnel, understand the format of work, establish interdepartmental interaction, so that over time, if such a need arises, quickly make an appropriate decision. the delegation of the kostroma region continues its work in belarus in the three-day program of the working group meeting, visiting the largest domestic enterprises. today the guests visited the production site of bkm-holding. trolls. and electric buses from minsk travels along the roads of many russian cities, there is a mutual interest for the kostroma region to join the pool of partners, especially since the company has an individual approach to each client. we always take an individual approach, we have a trolleybus model 321 for, say, yekaterinburg and krasnodar, but they are still different, we still take into account the wishes of a particular region, especially when it comes to climatic differences, that is, the northern region and... so we deliver to krasnoyarsk to

krasnodar, of course, there will be some nuances, of course, we all take them into account in the technical specifications. the day before, the guests got acquainted with the work of the minsk tractor plant and the amkador holding. the first forum of young civil servants gathered more than 200 participants in minsk. the program was devoted to the issues of popularizing the public service, involving representatives in public activities, increasing political literacy and electoral culture of the population, as well as current forms and methods of information. with citizens, four thematic sections worked within the framework of the forum, a plenary session was held, the result was the adoption of the forum resolution. a new dormitory for students of the bguir medical university was opened today in minsk, a building for 1030 places was located on simashka street , a block-type dormitory with a kitchen, bathroom and shower, in the living rooms all the necessary furniture for study and recreation, some blocks were equipped for people with disabilities, the project provides for two

buildings of 20 and 11 floors, one of which will house 530 students of the university of informatics and radioelectronics, and their neighbors will be 500 future doctors. currently currently, along with the opening of this large dormitory for two universities, the construction of two dormitories for universities of physical culture and sports is already underway, we plan that in the spring of next year it will be put into operation for 700 places, the second dormitory, which is also currently already is being built for belarus. national technical university. it is planned for delivery around august-september next year. a dormitory for the belarusian state technological university is at the design stage. two the modern buildings are connected to each other by a two-story building. it housed a leisure center, assembly and gym halls, lecture rooms and a cafeteria. the center for artistic gymnastics and acrobatics rings of glory was opened after a major overhaul. the building of a specialized children's and youth school.

the olympic reserve is located next to the traktor stadium; the foundations, roofing, walls, utility networks in the center were updated, the covering was also replaced and the surrounding area was landscaped. we remember both olympic champions and world champions, european champions, winners of various kinds of international competitions, people from this school, also ivan ivankov and the silver medalist of the olympic games in 1972, came from this same school, and today a large number of children from the factory district in this school are preparing for various kinds of competitions , highly qualified coaches work here, there is a good selection of children here, everyone is happy that we have such a wonderful facility in minsk, restored for the holiday. in the sosh river discovered the remains of an ancient animal. during training dives , vodolas discovered two bone-like objects at the bottom, partially covered with silt. they managed to get them ashore. experts from the gomel palace and park ensemble examined the find and came to a conclusion. that these are

the remains of beson, which could have lived in these places 10-2000 years ago. paleontologists will have to study the unique find in detail. previously , bones or even whole skulls of forest elephant, mammoth, rhinoceros, reindeer and cave lion. the museum of the gomel palace and park ensemble also contains fragments of representatives of the marine fauna, more than 400. there is a weekly socio-political talk show on the air, today we will talk about a very sensitive topic, discuss changes in the tax... talk about business in belarusian

and discuss all the details. as always , kiril kazakov and alena syrova are on air, but you can also become participants in our program, here is the qr code at the bottom of the screen, point it at it. your smartphone and write your question or yours opinion, we will try to sort it out together with experts or voice it on air. well, in the lower right corner, there is a link to our telegram channel, if you want to know more about our team about our talk show, join us, hello, good evening, you know, it so happened that any, any topic that we bring up about a little ... business or the business of individual entrepreneurs always concerns some kind of political basis, well , it seems like we always talk only about taxes and talk only about money, like how is it earning money and what kind of politics is there, but always, then our ipers are the most offended, then our ipeshniks are

people who have been taxed, now the introduction of any wealth tax is again a social explosion, well, in fact, this is such a strange story in our country, when we start this topic. well, we even said before the program, they will really introduce a wealth tax, but will they pay , well, here’s the second question, really, tax crimes are all over the world, they are one of the most serious, for them one of the most terrible punishments, but on the other hand, the cunning people of our planet deceive the state in any country, irina vasilievna, in your opinion, in general, the topic of entrepreneurship, probably since our country gained independence, the topic of entrepreneurship, it always raises concerns... well firstly, because we lived for 80 years without entrepreneurship , it was considered especially so zhanna

kazimirovna and i started working back in the nineties, well, we worked as scientists, we were not engaged in business, but we worked for various methodological instructions there and so then they helped to form these... so they came across this and it is clear that the people reacted, since people began to do business in the absence of a legislative framework, so then they could earn a lot, because they could take it, sell it, without having to to pay, yes, yes, absolutely right, well, there was no legislation, and accordingly people watched how such money was amassed out of the blue, and it is clear that this negative attitude arose, in fact, if you look at... at entrepreneurship, for business abroad, and even if 50% of our budget revenue is generated by who , zhanna kazimirovna, they form, business is formed by entrepreneurs, and business, as a rule, is small, well, at best, medium, large business

is a completely different article, here therefore, there is no need for people who are trying to say that business is something negative, let them remember that especially if they are state employees, plus a social package, it’s like in the soviet union they said the poor, poor state gave out free apartments, education it was free, medicine was free, plus everything, in fact, you could still go to a sanatorium, you didn’t have to pay for roads, there was no need to pour into the water as much as you wanted, for example, now water costs a penny, so literally today we are with students and our , that means i talked, i say, today you don’t know to what extent. water is free, access to clean water, yes, we have problems there with iron, contained in water, but that’s another question, water is free, the air is clean, well, that’s also relative, but in any case not the same the gas base, which you understand, we

are accustomed to not noticing, just like this notorious story about clear skies above our heads, and our independence, well, i’ll still explain to our viewers what the topic of today is. ether, inspired, of course, by many factors, but primarily by the fact that literally from day to day, as the bird on our tail brought us, the house of representatives will, among other things , consider changes to our tax code, and one of the novelties is just concerns the same wealth tax, we have been for six months ago we remembered the changes again and talked about how the preparations were, listen , but the changes are from january 1, let ’s figure out what is called in order, alexander, if we are talking about this term wealth tax, why is it in belarus now? there was a need to resort to such a measure, we suddenly had a lot of wealthy people , opponents of the authorities say that in this way, it means the state wants to earn money in order

to feed, well, uh, security forces, public sector employees from various other spheres , well, let's to understand all these trends. well, if we look at this problem more broadly, we will see that the progressive scale, well, which can be understood as wealth, a tax on wealth, it... already existed before, in our practice there was a single rate of income tax, it, well, let’s say, does not occupy sovereign more than 50% of the time in the history of belarus, which means there were taxes of 20% to 25, that’s what the state’s goal is? on the one hand , it may seem that there is not enough money, but indeed the progressive scale will change, i assume that it will increase tax revenue. on the other hand, maybe this is connected with social

justice, because as there is such an expression, it’s good, for some it’s rare soup, for others it’s small pearls, uh, you earn 10-15,000 rubles per year, you earn 100-150 , but now we are talking about more than 200,000 rubles, i’m just saying this for comparison. well, 200,000 rubles per year is a little more than 6,000 rubles per month, it’s not that much. 1600, but still it's 5,000 dollars, it's 3,000 dollars, 5,000 dollars, 5,000 dollars, about 5,000 dollars, well even by european standards, i wouldn’t say that this is such a large amount, that is , well, how would you like to push it back? if we again appeal to international experience, then they are the same, well, the same wealth tax. in other countries, well, if we are there, as a rule , who we compare ourselves with, traditionally we compare there

, so we take the american model, here we take there, the soviet union or the russian one, well, it is also present in europe, in europe, in europe , all this is also present, well, i don’t see a global problem with the implementation of this tax, yes, at the beginning, well, there won’t be some kind of shambles, but then everything will return to normal, well, here ’s the average figure that is announced... not by representatives of our authorities, they say that we have about 9,000 people, which, strictly speaking , , they can touch, and then there are about seven, these are those who can really be called dollar millionaires, that is, in principle, out of 9 and a half million of the country, the population is 9,000 - this is not so much, however, i’ll say again why this the topic is now being pulled into the political plane, because when you, for example, you hear that now, if you buy an expensive car, you will have to pay 10 times more transport tax, well, that’s it.

tell me, our entrepreneurs, they will be afraid of this story, or, as i said, how the entire population of the earth will try like this, well, i don’t think that entrepreneurs will be afraid, and we must clearly understand that tax legislation, as regards these 200,000, this is not only for entrepreneurs, this is generally for any citizen who receives such income, you understand that more often in total, business representatives receive this kind of income, yes, yes, but these are representatives who can be hired employees, a manager who works as a director at an enterprise, he can be a completely hired employee, yes, let’s say, the director of any other enterprise can certainly be the same or a doctor, for example, this well-paid one is also an individual, so to say that entrepreneurs will suddenly be afraid today, well, probably, even based on the statistics that we have on taxes, but violators there are 2, 3, four. interest is not more, yes, but it exists everywhere, so we have a fairly law-abiding business in terms

of paying taxes, and the tax system that we have, it tracks the income of individuals quite well, including, so i don’t think that tomorrow we we’ll go practically into the shadows and won’t pay taxes, well, look, all this talk about the need to transfer, for example, your business from an individual entrepreneur to a legal entity, yes, either become self-employed or go self-employed, these ones here is the debate in the house of representatives about the need to reduce the list of specialties in general ? yes, after all, people understand that all this is being done in order to somehow increase taxes, we ourselves understand perfectly well that when you were an ip agent, and you paid one amount, and they tell you, well, excuse me, yours, let’s say so , there is no wholesale trade now in the ip category, you need to create some kind of company and for this you have to pay more taxes, so... in this regard, this is a normal european trend, when this is normal

european trend, moreover, i want to say that as soon as changes appeared in the tax code and a wealth tax appeared , a car tax appeared, there are rich people, and so on and so forth, business arose a demand for a law that we recently they criticized changes in legislation on entrepreneurship, because for any subject there is the possibility of the right to choose, i can be. an individual entrepreneur does not pay high taxes; there is 25% income tax, i can switch to a legal entity, stay on the simplified taxation system and pay. today there is already a request from business, so it is very important not at all from the point of view of paying or not paying taxes, it is very important to simultaneously adopt such regulatory legal acts, that is, this is a certain catapult that throws people up so that they started doing something, i understand that if you, for example, you do, relatively speaking, you do manicures and pay

taxes on your phone, now it’s very convenient, in principle, you you understand your salary, which you still haven’t made more. this is taxation, these are the laws, despite their seeming crocodile-like dangers, but on the other hand, it should be said that even in this draft law, we say there is a seamless transition - this is the first and secondly, it is also provided for there. and business entities no longer up to 15, but up to 50 people, who will become legal entities, will be able to enjoy those benefits or those simplified regimes that can be was used until now, and this makes it possible to just grow out of my pants by and large, yes, i will no longer look at my 2, 3, 5, 10, yes, i can

grow to 50, nothing will change for me so i can think ahead? it’s just that those people who are really busy with their business, their business, then they have fewer questions about these changes than ordinary people who just read about it, passed by, live in this country, you you invest, you just sort of i found out everything, but i want to clarify the fact with dmitry stanislavovich, they said here that we have very law-abiding citizens when it comes to paying taxes. and somehow we have such a bias immediately towards business, that only businessmen are capable of hiding their income there, somehow not paying taxes, but surely in other areas there are unscrupulous citizens, well, as a rule, well, i want to start right away with that the head of our state, accepting the report of the minister of taxes and duties and the chairman of the state committee

control of the republic of belarus said: paying taxes is sacred, therefore, because we have a social system. and we must, let’s say, the tax burden must, of course, be understandable, simply fair, then , let’s say, the balance of interests between business, entrepreneurship will be maintained and the law enforcement block will also be respected, look, can i say a word of fairness to you now? i’ll play around, because they still consider the word fair, as if in their favor, that’s right, look, with the same cars, where is the line, when my car is made expensive, here it will be...' this amount is determined, this is the first, this is the second story, and how will people be punished for this non-payment, will there be cameras hanging and fines, or will they be checked, like this tax, well, this road tax was paid, because now it actually amounts to a little money, well, relatively speaking, here and there 40 rubles, so i paid, well, i have to pay 400, and for someone 1000, here how

will justice be assessed, how will it be the line has been drawn, well, look, you already answered just before that you chose that it will only affect 9. thousand people, as it were, that is , in principle, not everyone with cars they say there will be a little more yes, well, i think that look all the time before this they introduced transport tax, yes, remember, the public is also there like this, but at the moment we see that everyone, in principle , pays conscientiously, let’s say this tax is fair, it doesn’t mean that everyone likes what everyone pays , it doesn’t mean that everyone likes taxes no one ever likes you know, it’s like the question is that that’s the point that they should be. fair, so that, let’s say, the majority likes it, or the majority evaluates it as fair, fair , let’s say they can pay it, this is very important, like an assessment, yes, and what are you saying, in the camera, how will it be recorded, well, you’ve already run so far, you’re still in favor of the law, it’s not a question for the people , you know that as soon as we were told that there would be expensive cars,

we won’t have a house, we’ll have a telephone dear and the car is expensive, these are two things that in the national... national mentality , you can sell everything, take out loans, the main thing is that the car is expensive and the telephone, well, everyone has their own approach, well, let's go back to mine question, yes, with regards to what areas people most often evade paying taxes, look, in principle, taxes are evaded in all areas, yes, they just do, there are different mechanisms, let’s say, if we rewind a little history back, then in due time financial investigation authorities in the composition of the committee is state. controls fought against such lies as false entrepreneurship, yes, that is, when one-day companies were used in order to withdraw money there, do not pay taxes to the budget with, accordingly , they were used, there were groups that created these financial companies, so, further, let’s say

, this evil was defeated, new schemes appeared, business divisions , wages in envelopes, so they permeate, in principle, any spheres, that is, we can only say from statistics that somewhere it is more, somewhere this is less, but if we take, for example, also, well, i can say one thing that throughout the entire... let's say, the period of division of the financial investigation bodies, hidden revenue began in the beginning now exists, this is the scheme for concealing revenue , of course, you know, in such areas primarily as retail trade , where it is possible not to reflect cash in accounting, also of course, now this is often found in services to provide: taxi transportation, both in principle regular and so where is one on one two people will agree on anything, i think if you used the services of a taxi, sometimes even the driver asks do you need a receipt there

or not, that is, well, we know, at gas stations they ask me if i need a receipt or not, but i can’t help, okay, at gas stations the price of gasoline is we have a single one installed, well, it doesn’t matter whether you need a receipt or not, well, it’s saving paper, i think it’s okay, let it be this way , so to answer your question, that, in principle, this can now be found in every area, but the question is the amounts, where there are large money, they don’t pay anymore, i i’ll say more, for your practice, the largest amount that was, mm, well, measure , i’ll give the latest implementation of the minsk department, the amount was, this is an online store, the preliminary amount of unpaid taxes was 9.5 million belarusian rubles, an excellent amount, well, that’s okay, alexandrovich. look, the technopark, in principle, its essence is that there are low taxes in order to actually come and create your own business, we are accustomed to the fact that

entrepreneurs, first of all, are people, those who buy and sell are engaged, a technopark is a start for doing, producing something, yes, in general this story about reducing taxes, it works for you, but i’ll try it comprehensively, my colleagues have already said a word that i really liked, i will... somehow use it, this is a catapult, that is, we basically exist for this purpose, a technopark, not just a technopark, we have a fairly broad infrastructure to support entrepreneurship, it is important to know how to use it, and to know where find those or other advantages that technology parks and incubators provide, which means our high-tech park , great stone, our free economic zones, and they all have certain preferences for not necessarily tax breaks, for example, in the minsk technopark, the general procedure provides for the payment of income tax on

rates are 10%, that is, but this is a significant benefit for those entrepreneurs of enterprises that have already exceeded this, look, we are used to htps enjoying benefits, but with htp everything is all in chocolate, how simple am i why do ordinary people have a comparison, the htp is doing well, as far as the technology park can reach the level of this htp, at least in terms of taxes. did not compete with each other, we are completely different, that is, the purpose is a little, we rather work with front-door enterprises , and companies that do something significant that you can touch with your hands, this is our story, htp, they have the principle of extraterritoriality, a little other benefits, here, but their companies, well, until recently, now the situation has changed, they needed a table, a chair, the internet, so, ours need a lot of other things, and an engineer... a structure and prepared premises and some machines, we provide such benefits, not benefits, or rather, opportunities for entrepreneurs, specifically production workers,

not to spend all their profits or revenue at the start-up stage in order to buy machines for ourselves, but use the ones we have there at low rates, well, besides this, we are also trying to create such a wave in society that would attract people into entrepreneurship in the production sector. maximum number of people, so we hold various competitions, startup competitions, for example, now together with the great stone, today we have just a month left to submit applications for startups, startups are small, not even enterprises yet, rather teams that have their own project, they have the opportunity to take part in the competition , receive a significant prize , i think we’ll be raffling off 10,000, well, they have to apply before the end of november, tell me, here’s the growth in numbers, relatively speaking... after that we’ll start in october twenty-two and now twenty -third, is there any quantitative growth in how many people, companies,

i don’t know startups there. they turn to you for help, they receive it, well - firstly , we work with those who have already come to us all the time, that is - well, at the stage, i don’t know, there’s an ambulance there, something happened to someone, we try to help solve problems, it’s not always money and even most often it’s not money, but there are all sorts of problems, there are problems that someone doesn’t have certain employees, which means someone a very expensive loan, we have an agreement, for example, with investbank, we refinance at a lower interest rate, or for example, the city has an excellent tool so that those who have already received loans can be helped by paying off part of the interest, up to 50% paid by enterprises repaid at the expense of the city. zhana kazimirovna, here’s a question for me, yes, you have some kind of connection with that technopark , i understand that we have known each other for a long time, well, i understand, great, just tell me, well, well, we’re like you, i understand, what about you

entrepreneurs about not only for support so that you tell how to evade taxes, i’m kidding, but i think that in principle , because you suggest some ways of development, for example, we are talking about what i really do some kind of trade, but you understand that i have capital , i want to develop production, how do you contribute, well, as a rule, when entrepreneurs come to us, we have the availability, well, a set of tools, and we first listen to the problem he needs problem guarantees, whether he needs one. repayment, he needs a machine, and so on, and then, based on this, we then recommend that you can go to the guarantee fund, the fund for financial support of entrepreneurship, you need premises, low rent, machines, you can go to the technopark, for someone needs to practically prepare a business plan, you can just go to the entrepreneurship support center and so on, that is, today there is an infrastructure that supports entrepreneurs, yes, it can

maybe it requires certain changes. he is in the union, he will come to the support center, he will come to the regional center, but it seems to me that we are at the beginning of the program, just like irina vasilievna said, we lived for 80 years without entrepreneurship, yes, well, of course we will omit those moments that related to speculation, sales, resale, shuttle traders who transported goods, yulia konstantinovna, it seems to me that this is shuttlecraft, this is buy and sell - this is the first such primitive stage in the chain of evolution entrepreneurial activities of initial capital, yes, now we, well, at the state level , are stimulating, among other things, our citizens to become more mature, well, to create their own industries, if this step is not taken, if these measures are not taken,

then... what could happen, well it seems clear that they will trade there in the same way in the same volume in which we did it before, or we will simply begin to degrade, well, we will definitely begin to degrade, because what is happening now is a transition to the so -called civilized entrepreneurship , that is, this understanding the fact that this is trade and shuttling, yes it’s right, to earn the first capital, but what does it mean to bring goods and sell them here, this is no investment in development, from that very economy, no, you bring, you spend the same currency for this to bring this product here, instead of developing production, stimulating our enterprise, business, working here, working with our people, working with the development of technology, without added value, right, yes, that is, yes, yes, yes, absolutely , for yourself, for ourselves, we work for ourselves, and if we look at the statistics that are published today, including ours.

committee, then we will see that basically all individual entrepreneurs are involved in the sphere of what, trade, transportation, this is mainly trade, transportation, these are such services, that is, none, very few of those who are engaged in real production, but do not create this is the added value that is not developed, those who buy and sell, with those who really want to share something, but give them a chance or... yes, i i would like to maybe add a little here, but here’s a question, i can agree with this, but we need to look at the social aspect, who is an individual entrepreneur in the field of trade, yes, remind me, how many people, well, if we take all individual entrepreneurs , somewhere around 263 active 10, the conditions of 9.5 million people are not so many, this is not much, but on the other hand we must understand, if we take a merchant, yes, that is, this is what we

are talking about, these are people 50 plus , that is, they will work for another 5, 10 years, yes, then further came, this is trade, online trade, then trade came. they are mainly in the regions, they just need to be helped to move into a civilized category, for example, a private unitary enterprise, if our conditions change, to show that this is practically possible, and here, probably, this is the role of infrastructure such as business support centers and small business incubators are very important and the same unions,

respectively, no one forbids you to stay today’s police who say therefore here there is an opportunity for advice in you can stay, become a legal entity by and large, because you can do nothing at all in relation to the laws, yes, as in , for example, abroad, here in germany there is a practice, as soon as you hire a person , at least one, you become a de -actually a legal entity, all taxes are the same as for a legal entity, all obligations are the same as for a legal entity, this could also be an option, in principle, then you can remain an individual entrepreneur, but once a year just a little, or maybe it was and it's good because they are self-employed, that's

unemployed people were pulled out, they gave themselves work, they did not demand unemployment benefits, they did not sit at home, they earned money to feed themselves and their family, this could also be a goal, including a goal. please tell me how often the financial police checked the activities of individual entrepreneurs who, let’s say, have a monthly turnover of no more than 5,000 rubles. well , well, relatively speaking, we understand, honestly, these are minimal checks, so if we started talking about ip, yes, that is, with such momentum, well, you understand, our service is not numerous , and we cannot spread ourselves thin, we only deal with large financial , let’s say such frauds, and we reveal, and so here we are talking about ip, yes, we must clearly distinguish that yes, there is an entrepreneur who trades, we want him to become a production worker, yes, but in this mass of entrepreneurs there are currently a lot of such, let’s say,

pseudo-entrepreneurs, well, i’ll give an example, a person gets a job, even if we did the example in llc , which is engaged in retail trade, a chain of stores, they tell him that if you want to work with us and receive money, you must first register an individual entrepreneur, he says: why, i ’m applying for a job as an employee for you, he says: no, you must register an individual entrepreneur, you will be like an entrepreneur, our accountant will manage everything for you, help you open it, that is , the person did not intend to engage in individual entrepreneurial activity, almost every shelf in the store is common, then they are assigned to this entrepreneur, they do it to him for his services, supposedly he provides some kind of marketing services there, although he does it in his own way. for example, when selecting a product there, roughly speaking, well, like this, colossal sums are dumped on him, these sums are cashed out and transferred to the owner of this business, this is present in

the construction business, in leasing, in principle, also in every field, and so such entrepreneurs do not bring any benefit to our society, to our state; moreover, the person came to find a job. that's how he wants to get so he can go experience, yes, but they tell him, be an entrepreneur, as it were, for 50 years, no one thinks about it, just like no one needs free medicine, until the age of 50, and then oh, well, the question arises, that a person is a hostage of this situation, as it were, that he is being forced to become an entrepreneur, as it were, that is , in order, again, to what we are starting with our transfer, to minimize tax deductions. well, you see, here, of course, there is minimization in any case, well, there is always a subjective factor, we must take into account, that is, no matter how much we change

the legislation, if, say, our head of some commercial structure, if he has it in mind that i don’t want to pay to the budget, he will look for new and new schemes. alyon, there is such a word, sketchiness. but they go to the regions because they understand that there is something there that they were expecting, so what can you say? well, from my point of view, this program had its effect, well, its goal was achieved, well, maybe not to the fullest, just as the maximum effect was not achieved, but the goal was achieved, you just have to remember, here we are we mention the minsk region there, but there is more to the task here.

within the country, and we didn’t mention such a program as the development of the arshansky district, for example, until the twenty-third year, just this year , some results will be summed up, and the purpose of the program, in addition to how to lure, well, preferences, benefits, and so on further, and accordingly the redistribution of these labor resources, ensuring employment of the population, that is, these are not only taxes for someone. this includes, well, yes, taxes, without taxes it doesn’t work out, but how - provide or how to leave young specialists - yes, well, in the same orsha region, because everyone is shifting , as correctly noted, standards plus wages, well, everyone wants minsk and the minsk region to go to minsk, but what should the regions do, well, a third of the country lives here, well, what to do, what to do, it turns out that these programs are regional, so the pilot was with. there , a number of production facilities have been launched with the participation

of the ministry of industry and economics and the academy of sciences; well, everyone has signed up for this ; the local authorities have signed up, but it’s been done a lot of work, they mentioned, they mentioned the iron-free station, i know that the academy of sciences is there together with belaz and the iron-free station, which is now being exported, there are factories there, such as instrumental ones, they are also trying to revive them and install them. the plant-building plant is also a red bares, that is, this is a restart of these processes, well, it takes place , how effective is it - this is the second question, are you talking about resuscitation, to recreate, yes, but to create something new, that’s what it is stimulated the emergence of new enterprises, if you read the development program for the orsha region until twenty years old, there is a whole lot there.

in the development of this program, the ministry of economics has developed a whole range of measures, which include the creation of new industries, and, well, the support of which is preferential tax regimes and other , well, preferences, just alen, look, there are examples when the creation of production led to the fact that the economic region was created entirely, the simplest one is soligorsk, construction of mines, construction the cities there are novopolotsk, now for example ostrovets, of course. regarding nuclear power plants entailed the development of infrastructure, it’s clear that somewhere out there i can’t and don’t want to, you force, you help, still, yes, yes, but, but i have a philosophical question for you, look, we’re talking again about the fact that we are trying to force our entrepreneurs, for example, buy, sell, go into some kind of industrial business, but i just think as a media manager, in russia , for example, there is a certain program for journalists, for film scriptwriters, where they

the very idea of ​​doing business is put into such a positive light, that is, if you lose your job, you will most likely think about, for example, starting your own business, in belarus, no matter how you look at it, the search for what - no work at a state enterprise, or at an already established enterprise, but far from this is the history of running your business, why is that? we are used to the fact that if you work at some enterprise, then this is some kind of stability, this is a position, this is a salary, you fulfill your responsibilities and for this you are paid a certain salary, plus a certain social package, doing business, it’s difficult, it scares many people, what if it doesn’t work out, what if something happens, i’ll say what i’ll do, i have a family, children, house and so on, if yes, if you are not alone, if you want to create an enterprise, you should. you are responsible for these people

, of course, to decide on this, this, this is quite difficult, maybe in russia there are more tools, so i finished the word schematosis, yes, that’s what it’s called, this is russian in the outback, let’s stir up the scheme and let’s do this, let’s do this, let’s do that, there for the fifth time you’ve finally found your business, they seem to say, you can get a loan, you can do something else, we have enough of these tools in order to start their business, a new bill of some kind is brought up for discussion , yes, how many people, how many interested will take part in this discussion , so as not to say later, but they didn’t tell me, i didn’t know and didn’t see it at all, then there is this is not enough, probably active participation in

that the country, that the state, that business does for aspiring entrepreneurs, that’s enough of ours , two points, yes, that exist, it’s generally important to begin with, to understand that i will be doing a good job, yes and i will do what will bring me income, but i will tell you the case of 2013, when we came to the brest region to a village to talk with people who would like to start a business, the farmer says: i grow raspberries, this one has collected two villages, asked: ready to teach how to grow raspberries, give bushes, and take him to malina and around then he said that the annual income per person would be 500 rubles, in principle there was a business plan, he asked how many people do you think wanted it, i’m from western belarus myself, i decided that, well, it’s definitely a village one of two, yes, he said, no, five, people

, two started studying, what was the answer, why not, yes, because i will go to the collective farm and earn 300 rubles for... i’ll steal 300 rubles, why do i need 500? this is a question from childhood among citizens who are used to it, who come to work, maybe not earning wages, but they want to be paid , and this is one aspect, the second point, in order to do business, there is a big reserve here - these are young people, but when here the question is already addressed to the media to our bloggers, to our telegram channels, when you open the telegram channel of the controller and read, the inspection passed , you were fined, criminal liability, administrative liability, and there are no positive examples, here it’s purely psychological, which means i also owe something violate, i also have a responsibility, we need to break this creed , we really need to show more positive

results so that people would like to become not a government official, not an employee, but an entrepreneur, well, tell me that you don’t can you talk about good examples, report? well, your work is not good, approximate, the simplest thing, we checked 300 violators one, look, look, then the dfr will be working ineffectively, we are not here for inefficiency, as if we were to find a middle ground, we should be, look, this is always a double-edged sword, again, i will give the example of russia, as a union state and you live in the information field, look at what they have, so here they have, for example, how many times over the last year have we heard news about food poisoning or alcoholic products, but at the same time they have a moratorium on inspections, you have no right, not a single inspection agency can come, because, in fact

, there is this moratorium, well i don't know, maybe slavic the soul is such that, well, it’s like we have somewhere there, despite the fact that it seems like we...” here’s an example, as they say from friday, it’s possible that it absolutely has nothing to do with business as such, but when with the head of state went to novaya okolitsa, where they showed the houses, you probably saw everything, yes, it was about the fact that the deputy prime minister yes... during construction today there are as many as 12 points that are all carried out regularly, every step - this is time and money, we looked after the demand of the head of state, they looked around and it turned out that this list could be reduced by three times, but the deputy prime minister himself said that

it is beneficial for those who build and developers to have more of these steps, because in this way they can spread out over more. there are tenants and so on and so forth, you pay for each, well, it’s all clear here , you pay for each, so this is how to find this golden balance, the golden mean between the interests of the state, justice and also, so that a person does not work at a loss, like rina vasievna, you know which one the question is, you can think like this, if it is state-owned, then the state is responsible, and there means a fairer history, here is a private owner, he will 100% deceive someone, he can’t do it any other way? vasilievna, before we discussed this story with my colleague igor tur , he said: look, there is a fixed price for these houses, yes, it has already been publicly announced there, 60,000 dollars, 70,000 dollars and so on. but no one will forbid a conditional private owner from buying 15 of these houses and selling them for 150,000 dollars a day

right, this is a market, this is a market, yes, this is a market, it turns out that in this way the state seems to have kept its obligations, but a person simply may not have such an opportunity to buy these houses, but what to do, well, i know what i wanted not about this, but when they talked about how no one wants to do business, thank god, why, because we talked. so i’ll explain why, there is, this is a theoretical approach, three properties that an entrepreneur should have, first, in our country he rushes into business, selling paint, sewing bags, this is the most primitive business, it is considered that a business should be run by a person who sees the market, and only a specialist can see the market, but you won’t go, kiril, to sell paint, if you start a private enterprise, you will make medio poldi. they’ll buy it for such a price that they’ll immediately kick me out of work, yes, you’d better head a media holding, you know, that’s how you’ll break up

this business, so the point is that you need someone who has at least a secondary specialized education to run the business idea about this segment, because very often children from villages, without education, will get loans , start studying, go broke, then the financial police come to them, you touched on this topic, not me, pedagogy and education, so there’s a lot do we have people who go to study, for example, to study, realizing that they want to be professional businessmen, that’s what comes to my mind, that’s the truth, it just comes to mind, for example, the bsu business institute, i’m more like this obvious to i don’t see myself, no, i want to say, man, graduates of this institute, where they go later , i’m telling you about the obvious, and not about them

, they know that they will come to government agencies, they have equipment there, i say, well, it’s unknown how life will work out, if you are a good certificate holder, you can open a private certification company, why not , by the way, they immediately thought about it, that is, what am i getting at, if you are a good specialist, you know that you can and know people, you will be able to hire her friends, kazimirovna said we have entrepreneurs 2000, and 2 million percent 263, well, 3000, let's take what percentage is 3%, yes of the total population, there is a reserve, there is a reserve, you, as a person from a teacher, yes, tell me, in general, people who come into business , study business, they understand where they are going, because it’s true, irina

vaselevna says, and i also understand that a person graduated from school, how he started selling something, i don’t know, now it’s very fashionable to sell jeans on the kufor, bought for 100, sold for 120, then you wear it for 2 hours, for 2 weeks, i have one of these here in my apartment lives, so there are many people who come specifically to study business, during my practice i realized that these are the people who receive a second and subsequent higher education, that is, these are the people who have already seen something somewhere, they there is not enough knowledge, they understand, they come for it, as for students who are receiving their first, their first higher education, then yes, we are faced with a situation that they need to be pushed all the time, there must be motivation, you tell them and explain that you can do as irina vasilievna says, you you can within the country, for the state, this understanding of yourself, but i’m a targetologist. i say: guys, this is wonderful, it’s narrow, soon artificial intelligence will replace you as a market specialist, destroy you, and

what will you do, you just need to look more broadly, we’re here then, we ’re just entering this global sphere, something we’ve been talking about recently again they said, yes, those very strategic projects that need to be controlled, because you can come up with them, in connection with this, this is where our guests got a little bored, we we talked about whether people know or don’t... know where to get some preferences, where to look for some kind of base, but it turns out that due to lack of preparedness and maturity, they are simply not able to find this information, i ’m sure that these goodies that we talked about, that are in our technopark , many people don’t know, for them it will be just a discovery, that is, how, then we want to stimulate entrepreneurs , how many people who, for example,

want to engage in production, they have also entrepreneurship. vein, well, we work with those who have already been formed as an enterprise, albeit small, but already an enterprise, so if you have passed this stage, then i think that there is a vein, but in general entrepreneurs are people with a lower threshold, how is that true , fear, it’s like journalists, because, because any enterprise or some kind of entrepreneurial process is always a struggle, it’s always an adventure. when they said that we have enough tools, incentives and other things, you shook your head something like this, don’t agree, alexander, from my point of view, you can come up with different, different incentives, here’s one, two, three and technoparks, taxes, everything else, that’s what we ’re missing, uh, clarity, so, every participant

in legal relations should understand these advantages, use them in practice, the opportunity to use it, and often you read a regulatory document, and there, well, with a higher legal education it is problematic to understand, and today we are talking about a technology park, but there is a resource there, everyone can apply to get something, this it should be clearly understood, uh, i don’t want to throw a pebble into someone’s garden, but if you read about taxes? about the ease of paying taxes, well, somewhere we are probably criticized, probably not in vain on this matter, this is the ease of paying taxes, the ease of doing business, there are such indicators, international statistical indicators, and to be honest, here on the payment of taxes, there was a transition, a year or two ago, when work and services began to be assessed differently, that is, the transition to a twenty percent scale,

there is a sixteen percent scale, this topic was discussed with many of these speakers on our program, you know what we came to then and i think this is true, that people, when this transition was started, and it was not started in a day before this happened, people absolutely did not look and did not think about how it would go, for a long time, quite simply. didn’t think about it, and then, as they say, someone took the bait somewhere, and so - what we’re talking about is that this is a complex problem, it’s not, this does not mean that the ministry of taxes and taxes did not cope with its task, did not carry out explanatory work, it is because everyone should get involved in this, which they talked about, probably at an earlier stage, probably raise these issues in advance, and

us as if out of habit, until the thunder strikes, there’s a guy who doesn’t cross himself, that’s what we’re actually talking about, in business, you have to be, well, look one step ahead, be more perspicacious, understand that if something happens tomorrow will change in the taxation system, the enterprise needs to be brought down or there, your own ip, or there is some form of organization, so that it doesn’t snowball for you, some kind of change that will require the closure of this one. do not demand that the rules of the game not change and you like this means, i will emphasize, it means, to summarize , the mechanism must be so clear and simple, we clearly understand that anyone who reads the document, the rules are new, so that they know what to do and so that it doesn’t happen that

one inspector comes, you know, i see it like this, the second one i see like this. absolutely right, says a colleague, but i want to say where the business begins, no one thought about it, not with the fact that they will study taxes, how he will pay now, with the idea that ostav bender said when he spent the last 20 rubles, and that means this kozlevich said 20 rubles last, he bought zosia senitskaya a bouquet, he said the main idea, there is no idea, so he spent the money on a bouquet, waiting for the idea to come. and i thought it was a dream, no, but a dream, because the white pants that i had to walk in rio are a completely different story, yes, well this too, that is, what i’m getting at, here we are talking about business, as a rule it concerns shopping, sewing bags, shoes, it is important, why are we not talking about high-tech business, you see, i have kniki, i tried to say, they told me

that this is not our story, projects that are offered to businesses, we will have a forum on the first or third, i invite you all to the oil forum on petrochemicals, where you are welcome, i’m not lying, look, kiril, come up with 15 projects, take it and do it, it’s called, look. what to do please, here you go look, if we talk , for example, even about salaries, which are the highest in our country, this is first of all it, the same bnbk, which says that, well, well, this is high-tech production, this is the business, this is exactly the business as a business, not as a manager in some state company, how many people come with their developments, yes, yes, i’m telling you, i ’m calling them, our graduates have created a company in novolukomi, no, i’m not advertising, because i’m their i don’t know, i’ll say right away, i don’t know them, i have never come across it, i can write what they do, an additive

that is used as a lubricant for fiberglass, it is done by a small enterprise, that is, when you say who can do it, why do i say that you need to get it. at least some special education , chemists - this does not mean that they work at large state enterprises, here you go, 15% of these projects that will be built near large businesses, this is not only shoes and what we are talking about, right, we are talking about the fact that when the nuclear power plant appeared in ostrovets, it is clear that many different related enterprises and needs will appear, we are again talking about strategically global projects that. tell me what might be the most high-profile case you have, which was opened in your technopark , well, let’s say so that journalists would be interested, maybe not as smart as irina vasilyevna

said, but maybe something interesting, some not i can say, like this, okay, publicly, that this is in order, in a row reasons, but publicly, publicly, well, perhaps you don’t know that this is the aurus project that it drives, it was created in belarus, it was developed here and it sits on these cars like that, it’s very good advertising, in this case it’s very good then i mean, he already remembers who it was, there was such a project in russia for a mobile phone, yes, mr. prokhorov, you know where it is, and who is who, well , prokhorov showed it in belarus, he left, showed it, no, it ’s standing here, the last of... copies of they made it for us on silitsky street too listen, then the question arises, yes, her mobile, and then where is our electric car, well, for now it’s my mobile, there’s no other one, well

, people are working on other projects there, we’re waiting, maybe sooner than the academy of sciences even shows us, look, here are examples , yes, there are a number of others even by russian standards, large projects are large, systemic investors with billions , they also get something that doesn’t work out, that’s the question, what doesn’t work out, maybe some work needs to be done on the mistakes, the business community, the government should sit down structures, everyone interested, look at what omissions we are making, because we are now discussing , looking for some, trying to find the weak strengths of these models of economic development of the republic of belarus, looking for incentives and so on, here is work on mistakes , these historical ones, they started this project , it turned out, we actually have a lot of these projects, which seem to have started right now, in your opinion, what is the problem? this is a complex problem, we won’t discuss it in one program, it’s necessary

just to say that there might be another series to release, work on the mistakes , call it that and see what the problem is globally, these are taxes, well, i wouldn’t say that taxes will be the cornerstone, entrepreneurial risk, well, yes. risk, in what sense is it entrepreneurial? every subject should have the right to make a mistake, so that it doesn’t happen that he made a mistake somewhere, which means he is there, whether there are mistakes there or not, they will say whether there is another chance or not, this applies to the directors’ corps, i will there, we forgot one main thing, but you already touched on the topic, but you interrupted me a little, i would like to continue, so you said a telegram channel, they write violations there, read it, a telegram channel. the media and why i am present here, the main thing that is also important is prevention: when an entrepreneur we identified this violation in a telegram channel, the second one thinks , well, i have the same problem in my store,

the third one, that’s why maybe we can’t avoid what’s happening in the russian federation, as you gave an example, when there poisoned, yes, that is, what he thinks, why do we need these problems, you know, i had one , an entrepreneur, let’s finish , so that he quickly, briefly told me about this, when he says, dima, if some taxes need to be paid , you tell me, but i don’t want to be shown on tv, so it’s better not to tell me, but find out for yourself, work hard, they said it right here, business is... responsibility, including responsibility for what, for what you do for what your tomorrow will be like, so take the trouble to find out on your own, you see, there will be fewer problems, well, our paradigm is changing, because we all understand that we used to go to markets, now there are marketplaces, i went, ordered, bought the same thing, just a beautiful photographed tent on the market, now business really is when you you come up with something new, after all, it’s the 21st century, you need something like a scientific one in a technology park, in the academy of sciences, then we’ll make money,

lack of discipline is a failure, failure is a war, it all starts with the economy, the same thing also concerns international politics, for it may seem strange to some that while the whole world is in the fires of military conflicts, the president says: “not about war, but about the economy, but he is doing this precisely in order to stop the war, with regards to exports, which lukashenko personally did for in recent years, that is, after the sanctions, i agreed with putin that part of the production for products critically needed by russia will be organized in belarus, moreover, russia will finance it, and the goods produced will be guaranteed to be bought at a high price. alexander grigorievich calls learn from the mistakes of others, and not make your own mistakes, and from how much you hear him. partners, the future of the countries

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