[000:00:00;00] we cut, so, here we are talking about ip, yes, we must clearly distinguish that yes, there is an entrepreneur who trades, we want him to become a production worker, yes, but in this mass of entrepreneurs there are currently a lot of such, let's say, pseudo-entrepreneurs, i'll give an example, a person gets a job, even if we did the example in an llc that is engaged in retail trade, a chain of stores, they tell him that if he wants to work for us and receive money, you must first register an individual entrepreneur, he says why, i i’m getting a job as an employee for you, he says, no, you must register an individual entrepreneur, you will be like an entrepreneur, our accountant will manage everything for you, help open it for you, that is , the person did not intend to carry out individual entrepreneurial activities, of course, almost every shelf in a business store is very common, then this entrepreneur is pointed out, he is paid for his services, supposedly he is providing

marketing there... colossal sums are dumped, these sums are cashed out and transferred to the owner of this business, this is present in the construction business, in leasing, in principle, also in every field, and so such entrepreneurs do not bring any benefit to our society, to our state, moreover, the person... came to get a job, so he wants to get paid so that he can get experience, yes, but they tell him, be an entrepreneur, as if, until the age of 50, no one thinks about it, just like no one needs free medicine, until the age of 50, and then oh, well and the question arises in this, that a person, a hostage of this situation, as if that is, that he is being forced to become an entrepreneur, as if, that is, in order, again, what we are starting with our transfer,

to minimize taxes. with these changes to the legislation, we will minimize the likelihood of such lies ip? well, you see, here, of course, there is minimization in any case, but there is always a subjective factor , we must take into account, that is, no matter how much we change the legislation, if, say, ours is the head of, uh, some commercial structure, if it's built into him that i don't i want to pay into the budget, it will look for new and new schemes. alen. there is a word, schematosis, purely russian, you know, but they go to the regions because they understand that there are taxes, and of course, because of this , do you think that program really had the effect that was expected? that's what you can say, well, from

my point of view, this program has achieved its goal, well, its goal has been achieved, well, maybe not to the fullest, as the maximum effect has not been achieved, but the goal has been achieved, you just have to remember, here we mention there about the minsk region, but here the task is more global , the redistribution of resources within the country, and we did not mention such a program as the development of the arshansky district, for example, until the twenty-third year, this year just some results will be summed up, and the purpose of the program, in addition to this is how to lure, well, preferences, benefits and so on, uh, and accordingly the redistribution of these labor resources, uh, re-ensuring employment of the population, that is, these are not only taxes for someone, this includes, well, yes, taxes without taxes cannot be achieved here, but how to provide for or how to retain young specialists - yes, well, in the same orsha region, because everyone is being displaced, as

is right. social standards plus salary, everyone wants to go to minsk, minsk iminsky district, but what should the regions do? well, a third of the country lives here, well, yes, what to do, what to do, it turns out that these programs are regional, the pilot was from the orsha district program, a number of production facilities have been launched there with the participation of the ministry of industry and economics and academy of sciences, everyone there signed up for it, local authorities signed up, but a lot of work has been done, they mentioned it, they mentioned it. about the iron-free station, i know that the academy, together with belaz, is making an iron-free station, which is now being exported, there are factories there , such as tool factories, they are also trying to revive them, put them, well, in the service of the country, the plant-building plant is also a red fighter, that is this is a restart of these processes, well, it takes place, how

effective is it, well, you’re already saying that resuscitation, to restore, yes, but to create something new, so that it stimulates, if you read the program, the development of oransko. year, there is a whole range of measures in the development of this program, the ministry of foreign affairs has developed a whole range of measures, which include the creation of new industries, and well, the backing of which is preferential tax regimes and other, well, preferences, just alen, look, there are examples when the creation production led to the creation of an entire economic region, the simplest one being soligorsk, the construction of mines, construction of the city there novopologk, now, for example, ostrovets, when the construction of the aas entailed the development of infrastructure, it is clear that somewhere out there, through i can’t and don’t want, you force, you help, still, yes, but i have to

this is a philosophical question for you, look, we are talking, again, about the fact that we are trying to force our entrepreneurs, for example, buy, sell, go to some kind of industrial business, but i just think like a mediaman, in russia on.. .there is a certain program for journalists, for film scriptwriters, where they the very idea of ​​doing business is put into a positive light, that is, if you lose your job, you will most likely think about, for example, starting your own business; in belarus, no matter how you look at it, the search for some kind of work at a state-owned enterprise, or at an already established enterprise, but far from this story of running one’s business. why is that? but we are used to the fact that if you work at some enterprise, then this is some kind of stability, this is a position, this is a salary, you fulfill your

responsibilities and for this you are paid a certain salary, plus a certain social package, doing business is difficult, it scares many people, what if it doesn’t work out, what if something happens, i’ll go broke, what will i do, i have a family, children, not alone, if you want to create an enterprise, you have to pay wages, you have to support these, you are responsible for these people, of course, to decide on this, this, this is quite difficult, maybe in russia there are more tools, so i ended with the word schematosis, yes, that's what it's called, that's it in the russian outback, let’s stir up the scheme and let’s do this, let’s do this, let’s do that, there for the fifth time you’ve finally found your business, they seem to say, well, you can take out a loan, you can do something else, we have enough these tools. in order to start our own business, it went bankrupt, somehow, we got back up again, the fact is that there are enough tools, we have already said, please, help is provided, but there is a situation where many of ours, the same entrepreneurs they don’t hear,

a new bill is being passed, some kind of discussion, yes, how many people, how many interested people will take part in this discussion, so as not to say later , but they didn’t tell me, i didn’t know and didn’t see it at all, that is, this... probably enough active participation in that , that the country, that the state, that business does for budding entrepreneurs, these are our quite serious ones, i’ll add two points , yes, which exist, it’s very important in general to begin with, to understand that i will be doing a good job, and i will do what it will bring me income, but i’ll tell you about an incident in 2013, when we came to a village in the brest region. talk to people who would like to, well, start a business, the farmer says: i grow raspberries, this one gathered two villages, asked, is he ready to teach how to grow raspberries, give bushes, and take them to

raspberries, and around then he said that the annual income per person it will be 500 rubles, in principle there was a business plan, he asked: how many people do you think wanted it, i’m from the west myself... i decided that, well, it’s definitely a village one of two, yes, he said, no, five people, two started studying, what was the answer, why not, yes, because i will go to a collective farm, earn 300 rubles, steal 300 rubles, why do i need 500, that’s the question there is still a lot of time for citizens who are used to it, who will come to work, maybe not earning wages, but they want to be paid, yes, and this is one. aspect the second point is that in order to do business there is a large reserve here - these are young people, but when here the question is already about funds mass media, to our bloggers, to our telegram channels, when you open the telegram channel of the regulatory authority and

read, the inspection passed, you were fined, criminal liability, administrative liability, and there are no positive examples, here it’s purely psychological, which means i also have to -to break , i too... have a responsibility, we need to break this bias, we really need to show more positive results in relation to the fact that people would like to become not a miner, not a worker. well you tell me that you can’t talk about good examples, frankly, well, your work is not a good example, the simplest thing is the simplest thing, we checked 300 violators alone, when will it be then the dfr will be working ineffectively, we are not here for inefficiency, as it were we have to find a middle ground, look, this is always the case. in both ends, here again i will give the example of russia, because as a union state, and you live in the information

field, you look at what they have, and so they have, for example, how many times over the last year have we have you heard news about food poisoning or alcoholic products, but at the same time they have a moratorium on inspections, you have no right, not a single inspection agency can come, because in fact, this moratorium exists, well, i don’t know, maybe the slavic soul is such that, well, it ’s kind of somewhere there with us. despite the fact that we seem to be the same in nationality, and there are belarusians and russians, the same in mentality, but we understand perfectly well that we have, for example, poisoning, well, it’s extremely incredible, precisely because they work inspection service, i’ll give an example, as they say from friday, perhaps, absolutely precisely, this has nothing to do with business as such, but when the state went headlong to novaya okolitsa, where the houses were shown, you probably saw everything, yes, speech it was about the fact that, here, deputy prime minister sivak reported that during construction

today there are as many as 12 points , which are all carried out regularly, every step is time and money, we looked after the request of the head of state, we twisted it, it turned out that it is possible cut three times this list, but the deputy prime minister himself said that it is precisely those who build, the developers, who benefit from having more of these steps, yeah. that in this way you can spread it over a larger number of residents and so on and so forth, for each payment, well, what is still clear here, for each payment, so this is how to find this golden balance, the golden mean between the interests of the state, justice and more, so that a person does not work at a loss, like irinavna, here you know what the question is, you can think like this, if it state-owned, which means the state is responsible and there means a

fairer history, here he is a 100% private owner. before we discussed this story with my colleague igor tur, he said: look, there is a fixed price for these houses, yes, it has already been publicly announced there, 60,000 dollars, 70,000 dollars and so on, but no one will forbid a conditional private owner from buying 15 of these houses and selling them for $150,000 is absolutely correct, this is the market, yes this is the market, it turns out, so the state seems to have its obligations... buy these houses, but what to do, well, you know, what i wanted was not for this reason, that’s when they talked about how no one wants to do business, thank god, why, because, well, we talked, i’ll explain why, it exists, this is already a theoretical approach, three properties that an entrepreneur should have, first, we rush into business, selling paint, sewing bags, this is

the most. has an idea about this segment, because very often children from villages, without having an education, will get credits, start studying, go broke, then join them the financial police come, and of course, they are subject to, irina vasilievna, you raised this topic, not me, pedagogy and education, so how many people do we have who go to study, for example, to study, realizing that they want to be professional businessmen. it comes to my mind, it’s true, it just comes to mind, for example,

the bsu institute of business, i don’t see it as obvious to myself anymore, no, i want to say, a person doesn’t go to be, this is an institute where then they go, i tell you about the obvious, i’m the opposite i say that he shouldn’t, well, some of course go straight away, i want to become a businessman, i give lectures on certification , they know that they will come to government agencies, they have equipment there, i say, well, it’s unknown how life will turn out if you are good. .. you can open a private certification company , why not, by the way, they immediately thought about it, that is, what i’m getting at is, if you are a good specialist, you know that you can and

know. 3% of the total population there is a reserve. konstantinovna, you are like a teacher, yes, tell me, in general, people who come into business, study business, they understand where they are going, because it’s true, irina vasievna says, and i also understand that a person graduated from school, how he started trading something, i don’t know, now it ’s very fashionable to kufora to sell jeans, bought for 100, sold for 120, then you wear them for two, two weeks at a time, i have one of these here who lives in an apartment, so how many people come here to study business? during my practice, i realized that these are the people who receive a second and subsequent higher education. education, that is, these are those people who have already seen something somewhere, they lack knowledge, they understand, they come for it, as for students who receive their first, their first higher education, then we are faced with a situation that they need to be pushed all the time, there must be motivation

, you tell them and explain to them what you can do, as rina vasilyevna says, you can do it within the country, for the state of this understanding. yes, i’m a targetologist, i say, guys, this is wonderful, narrow, coming soon artificial intelligence will replace you as a targetologist, destroy you, and what will you do, you just need to look more broadly, vasilyna , and we are here then, konstantinna, we are just entering this global, what we were talking about recently again, and those the most strategic projects that need to be controlled, because you can come up with them, in connection with this , this is where our guests got a little bored, we talked about whether people know or don’t know where to get some preferences, where to look for some kind of base, it turns out that because of lack of preparedness, maturity, they are simply not able to find this information, i am sure that those mm goodies

that they talked about, which are in our technology park, i don’t know many of them, for them it will be just a discovery, that is, how mm . then we want to stimulate entrepreneurial activity, maybe, again, through education, maybe we need more of these training faculties, aleksandrovich, how many people who, for example, want to engage in production, they also have an entrepreneurial spirit, well, we work with those who have already been formed as an enterprise, albeit small, but already an enterprise, so if you have passed this stage, then i think that there is a vein, but in general entrepreneurs are people with a reduced ... horn, how is it, yes, fear, it’s like journalists, because, because any enterprise or some kind of entrepreneurial process is always a struggle, it’s always an adventure, that is, it won’t be boring, that’s when they talked about that we have enough

tools, incentives and other things, you are here something like this, they shook their heads, they don’t agree, alexander, from my point of view, you can come up with different, different incentives, here... one, two, three and technology parks, taxes, everything else, that’s what we’re missing, clarity, well, every participant in legal relations must understand these advantages and use them in practice , the opportunity to use this, and often you read a regulatory document, and there, well, with a higher legal education it is problematic to understand, and today we are talking about a technology park, but there is a resource there - everyone has it apply get get something, this should be clearly understood, uh, i don’t want to throw a pebble into someone’s garden, but if you read uh, about taxes, about the ease of paying taxes, well, somewhere we ’re probably criticized, it’s probably not in vain in this regard, it’s the ease of paying taxes,

the ease of doing business, there are such international statistical indicators, and to be honest, here’s how to pay taxes. the transition was in the past, a year or two ago, when, uh, work and services began to be valued differently, that is, the transition to the twenty percent scale, there was a sixteen percent scale, there was a whole queue at the tax inspectorates, because they came up with rules, but they didn’t know how to apply them, so that it wouldn’t happen now that the same situation would happen, that we will re-examine this topic, just with many of these speakers were discussed on our program, you know what they came to and i think that this is... true , in that people, when this transition was started, and it was started not a day before it happened, people absolutely didn’t look and didn’t think about how it would go, why? they simply didn’t think about it for a while, and then, as they say, someone took the bait somewhere , and so what we’re talking about is that this is

a complex problem, it doesn’t, it doesn’t mean that the ministry of taxation failed to cope with their task, they didn’t carry out exploratory work, this is because everyone should get involved in this , as they talked about, probably at an earlier stage, probably, raise these issues in advance, but with us, as usual, until the thunder strikes, there’s a man won’t cross himself, uh, why am i saying that, uh, do i agree with something there or disagree, there are a lot of these problems, it’s just that here, if you go into business, you should be , well, look one step ahead, uh, be more perspicacious and understand that if tomorrow something changes in the tax system, you need to fail the enterprise or your own ip or some form of organization in such a way that it won’t be a bad thing for you , some kind of... change that will require the closure of this company, or even worse, when you will be forced to do something

you will end up attributing something else not to demand that the rules of the game not change and that’s how it means to begin, which means, to summarize, the mechanism must be so clear and simple, we clearly understand that anyone who reads the document, the rules are new, so that they know what to do and so that it wasn’t like one inspector came, you know, i see it like this, the second, i see it, absolutely right, says a colleague, but i want to say where business begins, no one thought about it will study taxes, how he will pay now, from the idea, what astap bender said when he spent the last 20 rubles, and that means this kozlevich said, the last 20 rubles, he bought zosya senitskaya a bouquet, he said, the main idea, there is no idea, so he spent the money on a bouquet, waited for the idea to come, and i thought a dream, no, but a dream, because the white pants that i had to walk in rio are a completely different

story, yes, well, that too, that is, what i ’m getting at, here we are talking about business, as a rule it concerns shopping, tailoring in bags, shoes, it is important, why are we not talking about high-tech business, you see, me books, tried to say that this is not our history of projects that are proposed by business, we will have... a forum on the first or third, i invite you all, an oil forum on petrochemicals, where you are welcome, i’m not lying, look , kiril, come, 15 projects, take it and do it, it’s called, look, what to do, please, well, listen, well, look, if we talk, for example, even about salaries, which are the highest in our country, this is first of all it, the same bnbk, which says that well, as it were, but this high-tech production, okay, in this business, just in business as a business, not as a manager in some state company, how many people come with their developments,

but i’m telling you, i’m calling it, our graduates have created a company in novolukomlya bausintez llc , i’m afraid to read what they are coming out with with advertising, well, okay, no, no, i’m not advertising, because i don’t know them, i’ll say right away, i don’t know them, i’ve never encountered them, i can write, what they do, and the additive, and the defining and used as a lubricant for fiberglass, this is done by a small enterprise, that is, when you say who can do it, why do i say that you need to get at least some kind of special education, chemists - this does not mean that they work in large state enterprises , here you go, 15% of these projects that will be built near large businesses, this is not only... shoes and what we are talking about, right, we are talking about the fact that when

the nuclear power plant appeared in ostrovets, it is clear that there will be many different related enterprises and needs, we are again talking about strategically global projects that open up a whole new one for us, but tell me what the most high-profile business you might have that your technoparks have opened, well, let’s put it this way, so that it would be interesting for journalists, maybe not as smart as irina vasilievna said, maybe... interesting, some i can’t talk about, just like that, well, well, publicly, that’s how it is, for a number of reasons, but publicly, yes , publicly, well maybe you don't know that here is the aurus project that he drives, putin’s cart, yes, all these cars, some of the units, they were created in belarus, they were developed here and sit on these cars, like that, that’s very good advertising, in this case it’s very good. then he already remembers who means there was such a project in russia for a mobile phone, yes mr. prokhorov, you know where it is, yes, who, who, well,

prokhorov showed it in belarus here, he left, showed, no. it stands here, the last of the copies, we made it on the street selitssky too, then the question arises, yes, e-mobile, and then where is our electric car? well, for now it’s my mobile, there’s no other one, well, people are working on other projects there, we’re waiting , maybe before the academy of sciences even shows us, look, here are some examples, and there are a number of others, even in russian by the standards of large projects, large investors, systemic daring. something also doesn’t work out, so the question is, what doesn’t work out, maybe some work needs to be done to correct the mistakes? sit down here for the business community, government agencies, everyone interested, let’s see what omissions we are making, because we are now discussing, looking for some , trying to find the weak strengths of these models of economic development of the republic

of belarus, looking for incentives and so on, here is work on mistakes... here these historical ones, they started this project, it did n’t work out, we actually have a lot of these projects that seem to have started now, in your opinion, what’s the problem? this is a complex problem, we won’t discuss it in one program, it’s necessary just to say that there may be another series to release, work on the mistakes , call it that and see what the problem is globally, these are taxes, well, i wouldn’t say that taxes - these will be the cornerstone - entrepreneurial risk, well, yes, risk, as in some sense entrepreneurial, every subject should have the right to make a mistake, so that it doesn’t happen that he made a mistake somewhere, that means he ’s there, whether there are mistakes there or not, they will say, there’s another chance or does it concern the director's corps, today i will raise there, we forgot one main thing, but you already touched on the topic, but you interrupted me a little, i would like to continue, you

said a telegram channel where violations are written, read. and the telegram channel, the media and why i am present here, the main thing is also important - this is prevention, and when an entrepreneur, we identified this violation in the telegram channel, the second one thinks, well, i have the same problem in my store, the third and therefore, maybe we cannot avoid what is happening in the russian federation, as you cited an example, when there is poisoning, yes, that is, what he thinks, why do we need these problems, you know, i had one, and an entrepreneur. i finish, so that quickly, briefly, accept, that’s what he told me when he said: “dima, if any taxes need to be paid, you tell me, but i don’t want to be shown on tv, so it’s better not to tell me, but yourself find out, work hard, they said it right here , business is responsibility, including responsibility for what, for what you do, for what your tomorrow will be like, so take the trouble to find out for yourself, looks like there will be fewer problems, well, our paradigm is changing, because we all understand that

we used to go to markets, now there are marketplaces...” ordered, bought, it’s the same thing, just a beautiful photographed tent on the market, now business really is when you you come up with something new, after all, it’s the 21st century, we need something like this scientific in a technology park, in the academy of sciences, then we’ll make money.

a meeting was held at the palace of independence on the feasibility of creating a system of military prosecutors. the president gathered security forces to hear all the pros and cons. 10 years ago this system was liquidated in belarus. the powers to supervise the implementation of legislation in the armed forces were transferred to civilian prosecutors. but now, first of all, the political situation in the world has changed. this cannot but influence the internal strategy in the system of work of regulatory authorities, especially in the military sphere. much of the discussion took place behind closed doors. summing up the meeting, alexander lukashenko noted that making a decision on creating it is too early for the system of military prosecutors , there is no point in getting ahead of ourselves, because there is no emergency in this, the president emphasized, but it is necessary to improve prosecutorial supervision and increase its effectiveness, including in military units. according to the head of state, in the depths of the prosecutor general’s office today it is necessary to crystallize the basis of this future system, train personnel, understand