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minutes. good evening, good evening, chairman of the committee on science and technology, there is a new face in our program, although in this case it would probably be better to say not only the face, but the brains and intellect, well, to manage a tv channel, you don’t always need to be a tv presenter, really i i had to, i’m glad about it, but to lead

science, you need to be. of course, it is necessary, without understanding how to organize and conduct scientific research, to manage such an object and subject. what our committee does is impossible, i want to say right away that the direct management of scientific research and development in the country is not within the competence of our committee, our main concern is the national innovation system, and the subject is efficiency, the national system works, although of course, as any organ government, we have our own scientific organization, and of course, we conduct scientific research and development in the interests of the activities of the committee itself, so , of course, yes, without the competence of a scientist, it is impossible to engage in such management work, due to the fact that it just so happened, fate i was so ordered that i had the opportunity to engage in scientific research and development and

directly as part of a scientific team, led scientific teams, the results of completed projects, they are implemented, well, so to speak, if that’s possible to say that i was from the other side... i ordered them and accompanied them and accepted and used them as the results of the research and development. well, you are a candidate of military sciences. associate professor, associate professor, well, that is, the shoemaker is not without boots in this particular case. would you call this the definition of a national innovation system? national innovation system, yes. i’ll tell the truth, i’m an outside observer and the majority of our viewers, in principle, do not understand what the state committee does, what is it? under this concept we we understand. like this system, it, in accordance with the definition, the classical definition of a system, is a set of elements functioning to achieve one, now decipher it for the audience, the elements are legislation, the elements of this system are financing instruments,

selection instruments, everything related to ensuring this activity, i mean such elements as examination of projects, assessment of the effectiveness of scientific, scientific and technical innovation activities. protection of rights to objects intellectual property, all of this together makes up the elements of this national innovation system, can we just say that you are essentially the customer of scientific research in certain areas, including financing this scientific research, well, you manage the budget money for financing this, absolutely right, we in essence, we act as co-customers with those structures who order these scientific research developments, who then... apply them in their systems, in their subordinates departmental organizations, their results, well, that is, you have the right to evaluate, conduct an examination of the results of work, yes , we are building a system in such a way as to use budget funding allocated for scientific research

and development with the maximum possible efficiency, okay, a question for ordinary people, after all, yes , we have a ministry of education, we have a ministry of information, and a committee for science, these definitions, they actually have some meaning, for you, including for the team, and in principle no, the state committee is the same government body that implements state policy in the relevant area, that is, the status does not become lower from this, it does not become, firstly, i am a minister by status, it’s just that our government body is a little smaller than a ministry, that’s actually all , what does this mean, all the issues related to the implementation of tasks that are set before us by the head of state, the government, everything is the same, only in the appropriate way. when you were appointed to the position , the president directly said that the results of the projects must be obtained put, as i say, on the table, yes, so that you can see what the money was spent on, this

is probably even more difficult than just putting the facts on the table, yes, this is how you cope with this task, is it always possible to demonstrate these same project results , well, to answer briefly, we are coping, uh, to answer a little more, in more detail, then, firstly, this year marks the 30th anniversary of the formation of the state committee for science and technology, and the fact that we are now coping with this task is not only the merit of those who now work in it, it the result of the work of all those who worked in the scst system over these 30 years , as a result, such legislation was created in our country and the elements of the national educational system were built in such a way that i will simply give as an example such indicators that we, they are not officially established , but we usually use them in order to understand what is happening, so in the area that the cst is engaged in, we have introduced such an indicator, what is the effect

of investing a budget ruble, and taking into account discounting, among other things, so if talking about scientific and technical activities, then per ruble it is about 15-16, and these are statistics from the year twenty-two, when we know what happened on the southern borders, if we take innovative activity, then just as a souvenir for the first half of the year twenty-three ruble budgetary. about 24 rubles, of which for every ruble invested, for every ruble invested, yes budget, of which about 22 were high-tech , science-intensive products, and about 9-10 rubles were exported, that’s about the same amount it turns out, well, frankly speaking, this is a very good indicator, yes it turns out, that is, you can be called highly effective.

absolutely precisely, in fact, this is such an unofficially established sector of our economy, because the state invests, through these built -in tools, in essence, to earn money, because this is in addition to the direct result, yes, i also want to clarify that these statistics refer to the so-called only commercialized topics, because development research is carried out in our country, for example, in healthcare, that is, a direct effect that can be calculated in monetary terms, it is not ... just like that, if you compare the scale of this activity, for example, through the ministry of health, then this is about 100, 150-200 methods of treating various diseases, without even reading pharmaceuticals, biotechnology, healthcare and so on, that is, a very wide list, so i gave this indicator only for those topics of scientific research and development that relate to commercialized topics, okay, if

we are talking about this, yes, look, projects: a domestic laptop, a belarusian woman in space, an unmanned helicopter, a special marmalade, yes, blue cheese, so i call everything that you are related to, these are all really the results of innovative development programs, under the supervision of the state committee for science and technology, or here, well, let’s put it this way, something far-fetched, no , well, firstly, the first thing i can say is that not everything relates to state program development, this is... literally the last two positions you called, this is cheese and that means our marmalade capital in slavgorod, uh, well this row is possible continue, so you continue , firstly, you said unmanned helicopters, we must not forget that our country produces manned aircraft as one of its production facilities, no one, maybe not many people know about this, but we have it in great stone - atk jsc , which produces gyroplanes, this is manned aircraft

, has not yet had time to get on its feet, it is essentially creating a subsidiary production abroad and producing very popular products, we must not forget that we have everything related to national electric transport at a very good good level, national electric transport, electric transport, yes, it’s mostly public, but few people know that within the framework of scientific and technical programs , we have two electric trucks produced on public roads, yeah, one manufactured by mas, they have different load-carrying capacities, different purposes, well, that’s a fact, these are also the results of the implementation of programs, in principle , this list can be continued, this includes space topics, this is everything related to medicine, this includes biotechnology, agriculture, everything related to ensuring food security, this is also important, the result that we have, well, for example, in agriculture, i am of course far from an expert, but based on macro indicators... i can judge and draw

the following conclusions that, in principle, the cultivated areas in our country do not increase, but the yield increases, because miracles do not happen just like that, without scientific support for this process, such results are impossible to achieve, of course, so if in general, without delving into at the project level, what is who doing there, in general this activity brings very good results, but can i ask a question, which you know, since the times of we have had this concept of a negative result - this is also a result, is there a certain percentage of research that will simply go into the trash, and is it fixed in principle? as a possibility that yes, well, we worked, researched, convinced that it was impossible, and avoided this topic? well, here you can say yes and no, but the direct answer will be that, in principle, such studies that have not yet ended

in anything, we have them, but it’s precisely... this the result obtained, even if it is negative, it shows that budget investments cannot be made further this way, yeah, at the stage of scientific research it is proven that this path cannot be followed, because a list is given why we begin to look for another way, naturally, yes , another question is that if the task is to justify some technology, a requirement for some sample, based on a combination of factors, this portrait of the future product is formulated, well, such projects usually end in success. as a result because of this system for selecting expertise, we have a share of such unsuccessful projects on which we have to make a budget decision. out of the total, a very good indicator, good, really, it’s not sad, but the trend of our century is not only electric cars, artificial intelligence or medicine, yes, but the defense industry, since you are a candidate of military sciences, taking into account

the situation around belarus, developments in the military sphere, yes, this is not an empty phrase for us, we see what they show us, what the president shows. yes those samples weapons, what was sometimes shown at the parade as our developments, this is what our science offers today to our law enforcement agencies, from what can be said, well, here you can simply give a list of what has already been shown by the media, well, i can comment that this process never stops and there is a constant analysis of what is needed in war, and naturally there is a search for someone who can ... produce it, deliver it and develop it naturally before that, so here is the list maybe from protective equipment, i mean body armor and other protective equipment , everything related to unmanned aircraft, what concerns equipment in general - reconnaissance, battlefield surveillance, what concerns

automated means for various purposes, communications equipment, and so on , that is, we are also developing means of communication, but because, in fact... in a war without communication, this is generally necessary here, well , since i have a basic education as a radio engineer, you need to understand that literally even about 10 years ago, maybe even five ago , you could see equipment on our market, basically, even if it was assembled here, the equipment was assembled on the basis of standards that were not developed by us, so to speak, but this standard allows us to increase variety of access to information that circulates in enemy control networks , that is, for us, this is an important point, now such developments have begun, they are carried out in accordance with certain plans, in order to fill this gap, well

as far as i understand, any radio-electronic equipment produced outside, especially in western countries, is potentially, well, let’s say, dangerous, unacceptable, not everything, as they say, it is somehow impossible to fake a transistor, that’s what is assembled on them, of course, what the software and algorithms contain, of course, is already domestic, but in belarus there has always been a good school of optical means, yes, always, even since the time of the soviet union, a good school of electronic warfare, be that as it may, but as i understand it , these directions we continue to develop, of course, of course, well, also in the area of ​​scientific support, the development of the military organization of the state, we must forget that our military science is at a fairly good level, that is, those areas in which the non-military part of our scientific sphere is not has competencies, this is everything related to the development of military art, especially modern means of armed struggle, these are all components, strategies,

operational art, tactics, here mainly the subject of scientific research are new forms of methods of conducting combat operations, combat, operations. everything that concerns the application of tactics for the use of modern means, reconnaissance, destruction, this is also the subject of military science, so we have scientific schools that work in this area, and the results, in principle, as far as we see, satisfy the customer, but this is a study, the results of which were literally published the other day, and that the belarusian army has improved its efficiency in comparison with the previous study positions, there are almost... by 20 positions, and it has entered at least the top twenty most combat-ready and effective countries in the world, so what do you attribute this to, first of all? i relate to the fact that, firstly, modern technologies are used, and modern forms of methods of conducting combat operations are used, primarily at the tactical

level, well, just to make it clear what we are talking about, if you take an ordinary infantryman from the times of the great patriotic war or so. .. before the collapse of the soviet union, then mainly his combat potential lay in himself, i act, with a bayonet butt, and secondly, this combat potential was made up of the weapons that he could carry with him, these are small arms, and grenades, everything, yeah, in modern conditions the combat potential of such an infantryman plus everything includes, thanks to the equipment with modern means of reconnaissance and targeting. plus, in addition to what he himself represents, there are also those means that can solve fire missions on his order, on call, his combat potential increases by the amount of aerial bombs. missiles, shells, mines, anti-tank missiles, then

there is, thanks to modern means of target designation reconnaissance, both potential increases, in turn, this, uh, leads, firstly, to the absence of the need for large military formations, well, that is, there is no need to dig trenches, as before from sea to sea, yeah, that’s enough a small group, it occupies a certain area, it sees everything that happens in it, at its requests , fire is carried out, in turn, what else is this for? to increase mobility, and this in turn places demands on supporting systems, it cannot be done this way so that troops move more mobile than obos, well, i say in quotes obos, which carries ammunition, military-technical equipment and so on, that is, to summarize a small, well-trained, well- equipped, cohesive army, mobile, yes, it can be much more effective than larger formations, but at the same time it does not

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project of belarus, on tv channel belarus 24. we are going on an expedition to the places of our country. it’s time to gather a good campaign and leave the city. there, where people have truly felt their unity from nature, they destroyed the grodzen region. let's follow the story and myastsov's abras. in the gancharakh litsk region there is a unique pakroa kingdom, built in 1774 from stone and wood. the whole country in belarus was barred, as soon as the woman, her husband’s passion had unraveled, pissed off the young ones with other men. kab dats dear hell, the need for skin kut has become a bad thing, so eight first kutochak, svatochak need for padsaladzits, and to these old

traditions there is a new life. gylya-gylya. belarus and russia will launch joint production of aircraft and build a second railway line from belarus to st. petersburg and the region. as for cooperation in general with russian regions, belarus is relying on strongholds. where else can you come up with joint projects? domestic technology is gaining momentum in other regions of the federation pharmaceuticals and this is not only an increase in the range and production volume, but also through exports, how do we conquer the market? our enterprises annually replenish their range with new drugs, 95% of which are produced under the import substitution program, work continues to create innovative products, one of them is a unique compound for the fight against cancer. more than 122,000 large families live in the country. their support is a national priority. with the birth or adoption of a third and subsequent child in a family, the state assigns family

capital. almost 130,000 deposit accounts have already been opened; families with many children can dispose of their capital ahead of schedule. news, analytics, expert comments, interesting facts, watch the event program on thursdays on the belarus 24 tv channel. sergei vladimovich, here’s another question, also out of curiosity, probably, if exaggerated, in which branches of science are belarusians the smartest, in your opinion , brilliant chemists, they, brilliant physicists, it specialists, and how to get under the state funding program, very smart. but an out of this world person, a scientist, briefly on the first part of the question, uh,

we have unique people everywhere, if a little about it. will answer me, then our committee was developing the draft national security concept in a new edition, we were engaged in the scientific and technological sphere, ensuring national security, the main conclusions that we came to, and while working on this document, we had to sometimes raise, sometimes further develop the basics of the theory, well, the basics of the theory are goals, objectives, principles, and so on, that is, that’s all that connected with conceptual views, uh-huh, so the conclusions that we came to, they say that there is no such ruler that would measure the importance of innovation depending on the scope of application, this means, in simple terms, it is important for us to have modern technologies everywhere , you come to a university, you need the material to be conveyed

to you in such a way that you master it as quickly as possible, for this there are modern tools, there are presenters and so on and so forth, electronic textbooks, electronic schedules, everything is fast, if you come to healthcare, it is important for you that they provide medical care, medical care , so that you spend less time, and that it is as effective as possible, yes, so that the main thing is that the result, but so this is where we have these unique ones and where are their moreover, for almost all areas of security we have a lot of high-quality ones. and the very scientific potential and intellectual potential of our country, when we worked on the cnsc, it shows that our country should be proud of that education system, first of all, which we have preserved since the collapse of the soviet union and improved it, and that system of training scientists, this is really one of the elements of pride, well, this is one of the elements of the human development index

, including the level of education. this characteristic is used in a number of benchmark systems, one of them is the global innovation index, which means the human capital index, and so on, according to the sub-indices that characterize our intellectual system, we are somewhere around the thirtieth, fortieth place out of 130, 140 countries that participate in different scales, in different ratings, sometimes in some subindexes we occupy positions in the top ten. in our country, for example, in terms of the number of women in science, we either took first or second place, they call them small, but remote, that’s good, good, the second part of the question, the second part of the question, it’s also very, so simple and complex, in principle , in our country the organizational and legal instruments are structured in such a way that this type of project does not exist in the country, which could not be performed, if

the customer wishes, if there is a contractor, this can be done. another question is where to go for the developer. yes. if you work as part of, uh, some kind of state-owned organization, a state enterprise. then please, roughly speaking, on command, contact us with your idea. next comes the examination, the formation of a business plan, technical specifications, that is, they contact you through the organization. yes, this is easy to do through the state program system. if you are a representative of a private business. please, do you want to complete this project for budget funding, there is one small, but not so serious condition , there must be an interested government customer, i mean the relevant line ministries and departments that are endowed with the powers and implementation of state policy in the relevant area, well then yes, in any case, you work through a government agency, yes, that is, if you need budget support,

then there are conditions if you are a private entrepreneur and just want to be separated from for all... uh customers, it’s easy and independently - to start your own business, then for this , please, a network of innovation infrastructure entities has been created in the country, i mean technology parks, we have 17 of them in our country, uh, the legislation is structured in this way that the efficiency of our technology parks is also increasing, over the past 5-6 years, the number of residents has doubled, from 1020 to 2006, probably, well, accordingly, each resident is a group of 5 - 10-20 or more working employees - economic effect i can also cite that approximately per ruble of budget support for small medium-sized businesses is somewhere in the region of about 10 rubles , that is, for a ruble of budget assistance , approximately 10 worth of products were sold, well, in any case , it’s effective, in any case, it’s