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the tv channel belarus 24. hello, the program is objective, new release, we welcome everyone who is with us now, almost a month into the military confrontation in the middle east, or rather, the hot phase that we are observing and discussing now, what we have at this moment, israeli prime minister netanyahu is preparing for a long and difficult war, bloomberg reports that the israeli army's ground operation against gas could last from 6 weeks to 6 months. former head of massad. zaarti also stated that the war will be, quote, very long, and those who think that it will end with a ground operation are mistaken, meanwhile humanitarian tragedy in the gas sector, overcrowded hospitals without medicine, electricity and personnel, lack of water and food, and most importantly hopelessness, at a meeting of the un security council, permanent representative of russia ne benzi outlined it this way: on the west bank of the jordan river, in the gas sector,

a biblical humanitarian catastrophe is unfolding . scale, we see what the realities are now, alex sergeevich, where to look for a way out, we hear from common-sense opinions that it is necessary to create a palestinian state. but we see how radical and opposite contradictions and how many steps still remain to be taken to approach this issue, where to look for a way out? the first thing we must understand is when we hear assessments that even a ground operation will not end anything, it’s true, the middle east, if it’s burning, it’s burning for a very long time, even if the war stops today at 14:00 or 20 :00, then we will be raking up these consequences for more than one year, thousands have already... died, this is bloodshed, these are terrorist attacks all over the world, this is also the involvement of other countries, they are already involved, we see that yemen is already in open, uh, involved, there are other countries ahead, no one knows what will happen next, that is , it will not end quickly, even if we stop

today, then, every day of the war will mean years of consequences, and we already see that it will not end quickly, not in a month, not in two, while unfortunately there are no such prospects, what is the way out? there was a way out a long time ago, everyone knew perfectly well that the palestinian-israeli conflict was smoldering, that it had not been resolved and that it would flare up sooner or later, but the question is that they did not consciously solve this problem, did not implement un resolutions, instead to extinguish old conflicts, created new conflicts around the world, ukraine, africa, which means the post-soviet space, europe, naturally conditions arose for this conflict to break out now, and one more thing, the united states benefits from this, today they are losing in ukraine, they need victories, what they decided to do in the middle east is to wipe the gas sector off the face of the earth, and this is a victory, but this is a feasting victory, there will be no victory, this is the collapse of the middle east, this is the explosion of the middle east, this is horror, these are millions, under destinies that will be

crippled, what awaits europe? again europe is the victim, again, it means the americans are strengthening the dollar, again their military-industrial complex is working at full capacity, although they will also suffer from this in the long term, what will europe get? again, a million immigrants, where will they go, these tens of millions from the middle east to europe, again the european economy, again, what is happening in berlin , now, paris, the muslims have already risen, and what will happen next, every day muslims will rise up more and more, americans managed to unite shiites and sunnis, which was not the case in principle, for a very long time, and today, if we take it globally geopolitically, they are losing the middle east, for one simple reason, how muslims will believe the united states, after the fact that when they actually admitted that some children are better than others, some children you can kill, and now i’m coming back, what to do, there is one way out, you said correctly, which is voiced by belarus, russia, china, there are no good bad children, we are scared that

israeli children are dying, and we are scared that palestinian children are dying , i was in palestine in israel, i talked with people here and there, and here and there there are living people, and here and there there is a tragedy of human destinies, there is only one way out, a negotiating table, a solution to long-standing problems, the creation of palestinian autonomy, our president very clearly answering reporters last week, explained the mechanism for solving the issue, let's dwell on this in general, the scale of the catastrophe, human catastrophe and tragedy, the commissioner general of the un middle east agency provides data, about 70% of all those killed in the gas sector are women and children, we already we understand that in 3 weeks, more than 3,000 children died, in no case does this mean that not a single geopolitical story is worth human lives, 70% of all dead are women and children. olga igorevna,

how do you look at this? i agree with sergevich that today, there is no single solution that would suit everyone, there certainly won’t be one in the near future, it will fulfill its goals and palestine will do the same, because today we see it clearly, and the conflict in ukraine taught everyone how to achieve their goals and what mechanisms exist today. and unfortunately, what is the threat of a pause in order to sit down at the negotiating table, when one of the parties obviously understands that it will not agree to any negotiations, the only thing that today... needs to be done is to get women out of harm’s way and children, i think this is the mechanism that can be considered, because it is impossible to stop military actions, but to regulate this so

that the death of a peaceful population, especially children, because the numbers there are already going through the roof, i think this is possible, and this is in the interests of both today. the international community , of course, can get involved and there are such mechanisms, but so far we see only division, the united states has followed the path of the west has followed the path. the whole world, just like on the issue of ukraine , that there is no ceasefire, are you with us or are you against us, as for the united states, i don’t quite agree, i think that this situation is very unfavorable for the united states, it is not distracts forces, it very clearly demonstrates that the united states is losing its weight, because with the outbreak of the conflict in ukraine.

everyone is watching very closely how the situation will develop not only in relation to russia, namely the united states of america, if in ukraine the americans implemented their scheme, in which they are very good, they themselves appoint actors and lead them themselves, then i think that the situation in the middle east showed that the americans were not ready for it, a very interesting thought, the world is reacting to the middle east situation, rallies in london and paris, and of course, istanbul, where in front of one and a half million... he said that turkey is preparing to declare israel war criminals, and also noted the following, those who yesterday shed crocodile tears for civilians who died in the conflict between ukraine and russia, today silently

watch the death of thousands of innocent children. in response, israel recalls its diplomats from turkey, another position, the iranian president believes that israel has already crossed all the red lines, tehran and washington have already exchanged quite transparent threats, andrei petrovich, how far can they go, because many are now talking about the fact that... the third world war, which has been talked about so much, could come out of the middle east, well, the third world war is already, as some say, it it seems like it has been going on for a long time, only the forms are quite hidden, proxy wars are also used, different approaches are used, but nevertheless there is still a hot phase, of course there is no third world war, this conflict has the potential , since i would like it to after all, this didn’t happen, so look, there are also two positions of two states, on the one hand, olek sergeevich said very correctly, the first

is that these two theses, they are very important, namely, which were pronounced at the beginning of the program, and we see the position on one on the side of the sunni state, this is turkey, on the other hand, an equally important state in this region as iran, which is clearly shiite, but at the same time, despite everything, the interests of these, i think, two states are still the same ...personal in these asektah, look at erdogan ’s speech, why is he really gathering such thousands of rallies today, why is he again on the wave today, why today turkey is again becoming one of such significant leaders in this region? well, the first, of course, is questions related to the religious plan, we know that hamas is none other than the muslim brothers, and these are precisely those offshoots of sunniism. which is supported today, which has a very

large influence in the turkish government, in turkish, in turkish this, the second thing ahead is the elections in istanbul, in istanbul, the mayoral elections, moreover, the opposition is very strong in istanbul itself and the question is related to the fact that it is to raise the rating of your party and confront the social democrats, this is the kemali republic, yes by and large, yes, by the way, the centenary is being celebrated there, but still, from... this leads to the third aspect: turkey, after all, plans to be and plans to become, in addition to the fact that it is a leader in this region, this is connected primarily with pan-turkism, with pan-osmanism, and the fact that today he is trying on the chair of this leader, erdogan, this is an indicator of the performances that we see today, well, is erdogan today ready to openly oppose the same united states, very much.

i strongly doubt this, but dragging iran into it, against the backdrop of everything, which is also trying to become a leader and is a leader in this region, is of course possible, here again, the confrontation with the sunnis, shiids can begin at any time, here too one important aspect is that the states that signed the abraham accords all well-known, they seem to be in no great hurry to help this very hamas, it seems like there are already a lot of them, which can suit them. and the leader in all of these is , of course, the united states. do you remember how the same abraham accords were signed by morocco, for recognition of influence on western sahara, as sudan signed? well, you are no longer a terrorist state, sign abraham, otherwise you have a billion dollars freshly printed, the same thing today they tried to drag saudi arabia there too, so this conflict that suddenly arose, which is presented to us, precisely against the backdrop of these events, hamas essentially had the last chance to stand up for

the national liberation of its territory, precisely at least in bad, good conditions to put israel in a worse position than it exists, what is it? this is not to allow this agreement to spread further, and this is primarily the signing in saudi arabia, but the fact that israel and the united states have long wanted, as saidevich, to put an end to this sector gas, this is unambiguous, because this conflict must be resolved, otherwise it will continue endlessly in this region, and yuri, we talk a lot about red lines, we must fix the very first one. the red line, this is a barbaric attack by the terrorist organization hamas on israel, this is the very first red line that was crossed, what happened next, then a festival of hypocrisy began there, both on

the part of the leaders of the west and on the part of the leaders of the east, regarding the fact that people are dying from all sides, of course, this is for us it’s painful and sad, but i personally understand perfectly well that terrorists are holding these hostages there, they are not releasing them, because israel said, in 48 hours we will bomb, remove, remove people, they do not remove them, they need a picture, they need blood, because all this happened, i really support my colleague, everything was planned, first of all, to disrupt normalization. signing agreements, in fact this is a war between iran and israel, that’s all, just through the hands of a proxy, what we must understand, you see, we started the topic of the middle east, how difficult it is, how many different opinions, how many different problems, because this is the middle east, this is a thousand-year history, and now the big players, everything is immediately

clear, who is who, who really wants peace in the middle east, russia, belarus, china, this can be seen from that statement. what their leaders did, how to solve the question: does the united states need peace in the middle east? yes, it’s not necessary, that’s the problem, if tomorrow the united states really wanted peace, negotiations would begin at the un, now about hypocrisy, i saw two hypocrisies, terrible, when we talk, there the red lines that the western press writes, the western press, which shouted every day that russia was carrying out a special operation there harshly on the civilian population, today they have reached the point where they write that sometimes hospitals with children are bombed, this is possible, this is not a war crime, this how can you write in principle, the second is about a warning, well, let’s russia warn like this, when no one hears, get out of these same, what’s-his-name, houses, we will bomb now, but who will hear when there is no connection, when everything

is turned off, no internet, no nothing, liars, liars, and what is russia doing in ukraine, during its time, it fights for every civilian, that’s the difference between us and where there are just 100 negotiations, instead, what the americans have been doing for decades, we must tell the truth, they pitted the sunnis against the shiites, alowites, and kurds included, it is their fault that the kurds were destroyed, they promised in iraq when they invaded, we will give you a state, the kurds supported, overthrew saddam hussein, and then they are with us. i talked to them in the forest, this is the wildest thing i heard then, kurds, who were gassed, it’s true, saddam hussein was a dictator, i was in iraq , so they say, you know, under saddam hussein life was better than now, that’s how much they deceived them, and so they gave the whole middle east money, weapons , warriors, they want africa that

way, so today we are fighting for a just world, and israel will have peace in palestine when they throw the americans out of the middle east, throw them out of europe, there will be peace in ukraine. throw them out of africa, someone will say it’s impossible, that’s when it will be possible, it will be peace until they stop prying everywhere with their ancient nose and their democracy, which does not exist. the view on what is happening in belarus is shared with journalists, the president of belarus touched on this topic, let’s listen. ukraine, all of europe is shaking, the middle east, that means arabic, the whole world is there, and africa is enough, and you know, they are there, in the east, taiwan and so on, there are more. they need the whole world to seethe, to have this dregs everywhere, this is how they want to maintain their dominance. in the world, you say it can

maybe, or maybe the third world war, if the americans pull up these strike air groups of aircraft carriers and start bombing from the mediterranean sea, although i don’t think that they are crazy, some countries, especially iran, iran will respond, and it’s not a fact that the aircraft carrier will stand in the mediterranean sea, they will drown, this is a disaster, so there are a lot of things that say that a serious conflict may break out, and maybe even a war. club of editors, an ordinary european man in the street, he sits under the threat of war, he is frightened by the terrible putin, the terrible lukashenko, migration crisis, with terrible economic problems, he doesn’t understand where to go, the americans, they have the task of pitting the europeans against each other, they do it

methodically, with the help of the british, the sacred economic vessel of the european union is slowly turning into a chamber pot with stars rim, europe will not get anything from this war, except for the destruction of the economy, this is already happening, the loss of sovereignty, this is already happening, and the third is the socio-political problems that will come, that’s what europe will get from ukraine. we don't owe anyone don’t miss it when we put things in order in our home, on the tv channel belarus 24. in the new project cultural road, we remember folk traditions. in the traditions of belarus, the bread is not assorted, the geta is barred, the bread is lamali, the bread is drank - the soul of the belarusian people. on sunny days, rubyazhevichi ulesy embraces the traditional production of medicine from the greenery. and also we turn to the ancient past. eight geta pabudova, yana sparkled to the karal mindaugu, first

karanavanam karal, dzyakuyuchy to whom he appeared our current land is belarus. after all , the national self-consciously begins to recognize its own carnies. the geta is so outstanding that on the next month you can swim for an hour. there was spachatku garadzishcha, then zamak, and then zeinichaya tsarkva. belarus has always been famous for such noble people, where we have historically developed a great state of affairs, watch on the belarus 24 tv channel . here we are, we understand with you that not only such a geopolitical clash is unfolding in the middle east, but also a cognitive semantic conflict in hands

politicians, political strategists, far beyond the borders of the middle east, it can be used as a battering ram, as a lever in order to crack open this crust of well-being and tranquility, i am, of course, now talking about makhachula, we all watched as the crowd broke into the airport, began to search flights from israel in search of those arriving from there, olga igorevna, do you have a clear understanding of what it was? no one today has a clear understanding; it’s hardly worth talking about any single point of view; i think a combination of reasons worked here, it is connected primarily with the growth of anti-semitism, because makhachkola, we see it because it is in our region and we believe that this is the first such act, which in some way, i would n’t even say not in some way, is very strong discredit russia, and we made it the main one. but if we look at the european statistics, then in austria for the period, so far in a month, while

the situation is going on in the east, the number of militia incidents has increased by 300%, in the uk 800 of them have already been recorded, a huge number, so this the directing we are talking about is quite natural, if there is a large distribution in the territory of the european union, then it is already a technology there... then it is natural to transfer it to another territory, that is, scaling is taking place, but it is not coming from the russian federation, not at all, russia has already acted as a point of application, i think we will see many more such points of application, and we need to remember the period immediately after the end of the second world war, when this whole story began, with whom it began, 1946 kielce polish.

after all, it was then that the first pogrom action took place after the end of the holocaust, it was officially called they are called jewish pogroms, over forty were killed, over 50 were wounded, it was then that the evictions of jews to israel began in order to find at least some kind of peace there, and that is what we are reaping today , this is from the year forty-six, it has always been there, it has accumulated and is being scaled today, but since the russian federation has been declared the main enemy of everything, naturally the events of america have already compared what happened in makhachkala with the jewish ones pogroms in the russian empire, appointing moscow as the main one, what is going on with them, what is going on with them. there is one simple thing, nothing is accidental, the west understands perfectly well that russia and belarus cannot be defeated by military means, this is impossible, the bet is always on something, an internal explosion, the technologies that are used one on one are similar to the technologies that were in 2 in the republic of belarus, again some kind of informational reason that can excite people’s emotions, all this

was pumped up, it is clear that there are some people are in a mood, but remember one thing, as i think, without money , there will be no rally from belarus today , there is no need to detain anyone, because no one is organizing this, no one is giving money for this, no one is doing it purposefully, so here what is the recipe, and one last point, for me i always look from the prism of belarus, that’s when the events began, i really liked it, some people won’t like it. three shots into the sky, the next shot in the forehead, rude, rude, but at the same time true, because you need to understand what kind of all these rallies, behind all these illegal events to blow up the country, there is even more blood, what am i talking about, i’m going to

belarus, well, shut up, let’s listen. i have already spoken about attempts to use the dramatic situation in the middle east, other regional conflicts against our country , against russia, to destabilize and split our multinational and multi-religious society, for this they use a variety of means, as we see, lies and provocations and, psychological technology and information aggression. i repeat: those behind the conflict in the middle east and other regional crises will use their destructive consequences to spread hatred and pit people all over the world. this is the true, core goal of such geopolitical puppet masters. well, i

absolutely agree with the president of the russian federation, but the situation. in makhachkala in dagestan showed , from my point of view, the weakness of the federal government there, because it was necessary to react as we do in belarus quickly, clearly and specifically, as he later added kadyrov, if god forbid it was a miracle that they didn’t kill anyone there, if they didn’t kill someone, what would have happened, russia would have again become a bully for the whole world, the second question, responsibility is very important, that ’s all now russian citizens are waiting... they are watching what sentences the instigators of the pogromists will receive and i look at the trials that took place yesterday, probably these are some kind of preliminary decisions, but people were arrested for four, four days, five days, this day, excuse me, this a real attempt at organized rebellion, all everyone, everyone

who participated, must be punished, and if this is how the regional authorities put this situation down, then we will observe for the second time the reaction of a possessed crowd to any provocations, in this case foreign provocations. do you agree that there are many parallels with minsk in 1920? absolutely the same thing, the same story, a telegram channel controlled from abroad, the same emotions, the only difference from that situation is that our government began to react, quickly, clearly, without turning around. attention, how quickly and skillfully they, of course, mobilize the masses very accurately throw them at those points that give maximum resonance, they have a focus group, the pillar could go anywhere, yes, but it went specifically to the airport, specifically when the flight arrives, that is, everything worked out very well, they measure, you know , they measure that this or that category of the population is hurt the most, so they measured

that it’s not even the events in the middle east that hurt the most. and the fact that some mythical israeli refugees could come to live in dagestan, when they measured this, they began to beat it, because correctly he said, the task is to rock russia, rock it. we won’t advise them, we’ll just, as they say, shake our heads, keep in mind that today any situation, not an external attack , an internal situation, everything that happens, but fails somewhere, can grow into some kind of artificial conflict, here in in this sense, for some reason... for some reason, i perceive this as, let’s say, a rehearsal for our elections, when european diplomats suddenly gathered and for some reason went to kurapaty in formation, they

either had some kind of phantom pain, or i’m dying, this is what happened, they themselves could not tell the journalists , look, i’m the deputy chairman of the commission on international affairs, which means european diplomats are going to kurapaty, supposedly to honor the memory of stalin’s repressions, listen, why are you meddling in history, at the same time on the border. they didn’t come, this is hypocrisy, there are corpses lying at the border, we’ll show you the dead people who were thrown out in your power, the border guards killed, they beat up women, beat up children, beat up old people, broken legs, they still don’t go, further, that means, and then they will be like this, they will wake up for the elections, all these faces will come out, they came to the carpathians and will say: your elections are undemocratic, you know, we want to give an assessment, what is this in general, this is how liars, scoundrels,

hypocrisies, again, this brussels’ policy, that’s what they are told, that’s what they do, but in fact, what a diplomat should do, he should increase trade turnover, make the border better, develop business, this is not a diplomat, these are all agents of the divorce and people who finance. we will approach this topic again, maybe someone andrey petrovich regarding the diplomats in kurapaty and the connections with the mukhadu of diplomats - this is again a question of the fact that we must be very careful about our history, we are absolutely sure that these kurapaty, when they were at one time against the backdrop of perestroika of the post-soviet era, when we brought it there that these were really victims of stalin’s repressions, because by and large there is another point of view, but for some reason we are trying to blur it out in every possible way, but again, they always try to use our history for their own purposes, of course, and that concerns. this is what, that the information component failed, the security forces worked again, survived again, so this information component is needed, because we

really already live in a world of netocracies, where the influence on minds, on minds through telegram channels, is much stronger than, for example, the use other media, but this again is the impact on youth, and work with youth, the work of the media. the work of precisely those structures that are responsible for the information and psychological state associated with the protection of the population and the impact on the opposite side, it must start working, because it is not enough to talk about the fight against the fifth column, it must be fought with active methods, and an example of this is again a parallel with our state, look when these telegram channels, in addition to funding, stopped their destructive influence and the fact that they accepted them as having a terrorist orientation in... people unfollowed them, really unfollowed them, you understand that no one knew that the morning of dagestan was working in this direction, so everyone knew, i communicate with the russians, by the way, i must admit that

they take a lot from us now, russia is learning, that’s why it has withstood a lot of things, it ’s just a huge country, don’t forget what kind of country it is, but you too advised which foreign agents, foreign agents continue to broadcast, how we should take simple experience from us if this is a treacherous organization. with the diplomats who come to us, they call this magic word stalin’s repressions, i think it’s very simple to understand, you need to ask them questions deep into history, whether they know it in principle, apart from this one word , not a single name was named, the numbers to whom they came, that’s it. but i would still like to note that

responding to violence with violence is of course correct, but then we teach all our youth that there is only one method, here are the authorities of makhachkala and russia, no matter what situation they are in, they they act very correctly, they show the second way, the second way is conviction, this is working with anti-semitism. he also exists, despite the fact that we have been doing this for 3 years, we convince, we go, we tell, let’s let’s close one more point in this big topic, let’s move on, against the backdrop of the middle east confrontation, ukraine has finally gone into the shadows , at least in information terms, can we consider, olga egirivna, that ukraine is being actively drained, now, zelensky has already answered to this question, in this famous interview of his, it spread, in my opinion, across all

telegram channels, what zelsky said, his words seem to me to be the most revealing, he said that most of the world is accustomed to the war in ukraine, he said, that war fatigue is growing like a wave, and people perceive, well, the democratic part of the world, he means, they perceive the events in ukraine as a series, which means no one will want to watch it for the tenth time, a few months ago, today 41, here is the answer, it is actually the answer itself to time magazine, as everyone quotes it now, they show, of course, the eloquent cover in itself, the american magazine is the most authoritative, in fact it is the voice of the white house, so that they don’t talk about their freedom words and independence, please note,

it is written in bold capital letters. that is, no one and little ekalenskaya, and a year and a half ago there was another cover of the same magazine, where zelensky protested as a hero, and let's read what the time writes this time: the president of ukraine zelensky was angry after a trip to the usa, which was followed by calls to fight corruption, there were signs of western fatigue from the war in ukraine. zelsky lost his usual brilliance of optimism, sense of humor and inclination to meet in the military room with jokes, the article says, and another one. about today's ukraine: ukraine does not have enough personnel to use all the weapons promised by the west, the average age of conscripts has already risen to 43 years, another observation from western journalists is that ukrainian officials, quote, steal as if there is no tomorrow. what we have been saying in this studio for many years, that ukraine is an instrument, this is what they always do with an instrument, this is not an ally, these are not their brothers, there was no concern for... this is an instrument,

but we should have no illusions, that the war is on ukraine will end up with no help coming there, the americans want to prolong this conflict as long as possible, they didn’t believe in ukraine’s victory from the beginning and didn’t set such a goal, the goal was to weaken europe, weaken russia, but they promised, olgeyovi, they whispered him that we are with you to the end, to be honest, i don’t believe that he believed in it, i think that the tragedy of ukraine is that the ukrainian elites deliberately sold everything, earning millions for it. i don’t believe in his suffering face, he spent all these years in green t-shirt, at this time assad, during the war in syria, wore a suit with a tie, he is an actor , he played, and he knew that he sold the country, he must answer for this, i have no pity, this is the face, this is sad, it deceitful and now deceitful, then deceitful, they are all aristovichs, lowlifes, they are all liars, what did the minister of defense do after his resignation, bought

a pitchfork for his daughter, which means prostrate, that’s all their suffering, judging by the fact that they are hitting the nuclear power plant with drones in kurssk and will continue to be ready to do anything to return attention, we are absolutely ready for anything, that means for any terrorist attack, for any meanness, for any blood, moreover, it is possible to stage it right inside ukraine, blame it on russia, they will blow it up themselves, it was like that, remember, when the market, it means the missiles fell, they said , then they figured out that this is not, not russia, that is, absolutely everything is ready, there are no brakes , because they will all end sooner or later, that is , they understand this perfectly well, the fire needs to be extended, the funny thing is that this publication, sensational english, british times magazine, first posted the office of the president of ukraine, but literally after a while, having become familiar with the contents , he deleted this post, but then they began to rewind the other way around, looking for something that could be

turned around. it is clear, it is clear that after what happened, it is clear that after what happened in the middle east, military assistance to ukraine will decrease, and biden is frantically clinging to combining this assistance in the us congress with israel, congressmen are categorically against it, biden has already said today that they will veto then if there is no will be ukraine, they are frantically in us political circles, clinging, clinging to continue providing assistance, but even in our studio, this topic of ukraine has no longer become dominant, and i think that the conflict will not stop, indeed, it will fade , but in principle, i will confirm my opinion, which i have repeatedly expressed here, before the elections of the president of the united states of america, until november of twenty-four, there will be no fundamental decisions,

in addition, next year the elections of the president of the russian federation require to hold the same elections from the president of ukraine, in general, there will be no changes against this background of political events, but now the question of responsibility for what olek sergeevich touched upon, about what ontt general director marat sergeevich markov said recently, has already now we need to think about nyuneng 2, about the tribunal that will judge the nazi regime that carried out the massacre, the massacre, we need to think about this now conceptually, which countries are it. how it will take place is a very important historical mission. andrey petrovich, well, i don’t think that anyone is trying to push ukraine forward, because we need to remember the most important thesis that we are all talking about: there is a war not between russia and ukraine, there is a war between russia and the west, therefore the fact that it is

only today pushed into the shadows, well , the forced events that are taking place in the middle east, which we talked about, there is a confrontation between two civilizations, for now they are the west and the east, global civilizations. and it will continue, the fact that supplies to ukraine have been slightly reduced today, this is an indicator of only one thing: the counter-offensive is being curtailed, in all likelihood the ukrainian country is beginning to switch to strategic defense, and the fact that the supply of new weapons there, through which we spoke, is another red line, such as continues, and they are increasing and attacks are already on sevastopol , in sevastopol, just a year ago we could only think about this hypothetically. and today these are already daily events that take place there, believe me, not everything is so rosy at the front either, on one side there are positional battles on the other side at its core, and as regards the use of these forces that are being supplied again, they will be in this ukraine, but

not only has this issue gone into the shadows, what is happening in our vicinity with our belarus has also gone into the shadows, you look that poland continues to increase its efforts, and ... most importantly, look, the transfer of su-35 aircraft to the lake base and to britain has begun, 54 f-35 aircraft, the bulk of which will carry nuclear weapons, this means that tactical nuclear weapons will also move there weapons and the united states, and b1b strategic aircraft were transferred to the base in milford, today they fly over and attack targets on the territory of the russian federation almost every day. and the republic of belarus, and the route is clearly the north sea, scandinavia, access along poland, the baltic states and so on, what a question, relax, a couple of minutes of pause, after which

we will continue our conversation, well, here we continue, ukraine, the middle east, we are waiting for the january elections taiwan, we understand that tension will also increase there, perhaps it will fate. year for the entire asian region, let's see, at least everyone is preparing their forces now , many are wondering whether there will be enough americans, what the prospects might be, today we touched on the conversation of the belarusian president with journalists, where he touched on the middle east problem in general, questions of interested parties , i suggest you listen to another small fragment right now. and if europe, well, as we imagine it, united with russia, technology, resources, the americans would not allow this they can, because it is impossible to resist, but they will come to this, look, their peoples will force them, take it, hungary occupies a special position, they will come to us anyway, they will come to russia, because there is a pantry there, both in africa and in

russia is a storehouse, and the world will grow at the expense of the north, russia and at the expense of africa, 40% of mineral resources. there, so they will come here. olga egirievna, will america be able to play on several boards at the same time, or they simply have no other choice, given that they made bets, put everything on the table let's go to obanki, they simply have no other way, they are forced to be in the middle east , in ukraine, around karabakh, and they are preparing to go there to taiwan, the united states will not stand it, we put it on them. what you named is only half, and even i would say probably the third, yes, the largest

is afghanistan, we just forgot about it a little. the whole world and what was previously considered the advantage of the united states, interests in every part of the world, today these interests, they are already dragging the united states, not they themselves they go there, and they are dragged, here is the simplest example - these are our neighbors, lansberges announced that a large group from europe is going to search. money in the united states, where money wants to ask a question, was allocated in ukraine, for some reason it was spent in the usa, they call for an answer when such insolence on the part of lithuania was possible, but what about everyone else? and secondly, we also constantly talk about the fact that americans have a lot of money, and it’s enough for everything, but it’s not enough, money has a very bad quality, yes, it are running out and the debt is constantly growing, americans won't have enough.

for everything, when the financial machine of globalization worked very well, then you could afford it all, but today it no longer works for america, well, look, america is far away, and europe is nearby, so let’s discuss this trend, there are fewer and fewer of those who is ready to put his head on the chopping block, i’m talking about the economy first of all, for the sake of other people’s interests, here is the recent victory of robert fitz in slovakia and, in fact, a new slovakia with a completely different politics, as it seems, let me remind you, she won in switzerland on october 22. right conservative people's party, which calls for strict neutrality of switzerland, opposes the country's entry into the eu and nato , criticizes sanctions against russia, arms supplies to kiev, and of course, closer to us, a demonstrative meeting in minsk, the head of mid-hungary, peter szijart, let's listen to what he said to the president of belarus. és azt is tudjuk, elnök úr, hogy mindez párbeszéd nélkül, és kommunikáció

nélkül soha nem fog. i lived at this conference, which was timed just in time for the visit of the minister of foreign affairs of hungary, a huge number of politicians gathered, from the post-soviet space, the cis, and the eu from europe. and the victory of such forces as hungary, the first thing to note is that this is happening against the backdrop of unprecedented pressure in europe, the absence of democracy, freedom and elections as such. in lithuania, if there had been fair elections, let ’s say, such forces would have won, in poland the wrong ones would have won, there would be no choice now. among the polish people between tusk and koszczynski,

which is the same thing, in fact, there is nothing there will change, there are no elections, there is no democracy, politicians who tell the truth are being stifled, against this background they emerge to win, slovakia, hungary, the growing popularity of parties such as the alternative for germany, italy, that is, this wave is coming, but why? but because the europeans are sitting and looking at their leaders in brussels, like barel, the crazy grandfather who says, you know, we need to be patient a little more, two years have passed, be patient, himself. why should we endure, why should we live badly, why should we live worse, why migrants, why corruption, why war, but because someday soon we have to wait, putin and lukashenko will become bad , it doesn’t happen, we’ll wait a little more and it will become bad, this is why the european asks us, what even if someday in 100 years it will become bad for us that they want something real for themselves, for their family, for their children, this is a normal human life, americans

in... look, the president said one very correct and wise thing, europe is not going anywhere for us will come, he's right, the question is how she will come as teachers or as students or as equal partners, we are for equal partners , on the sidelines of the conference, this is what is happening , in fact, i spoke with european politicians, deputies who came here, you divided. 90% of people are what the president is talking about, they want normal human relations, business, development , life, and this is true, and europe will not be strong without us, president, while it is very difficult for them to convey to themselves, that’s exactly what i wanted and continue, being on the margins of this forum and observing it, perhaps from the outside, i can’t help but remember october of 1919, remember, this is a conference on european security to pull back from the brink of the abyss, and there, even then in 1919, they said, let’s reconsider... let’s introduce a ban on the deployment of medium- and shorter-range missiles

in europe, call helsinki 2, if the rules of behavior of world politics do not work. not in the world and in europe, but there is a universal tool, the importance of which cannot be overestimated; only through a calm, businesslike, peaceful dialogue can one move away from the edge the abyss of a global conflict in which there will be no winners, and then act by agreement, this was in the nineteenth year, now the europeans are the words of the president, how prophetic they turned out to be, those who come. the number in europe, they say in the words of the president, they didn’t listen, but europe doesn’t have the strength, no, today there is still a moment, or our train, under the name of planet earth, is rushing towards this third world abyss, whatever, and it’s already can’t be stopped, no, i’m sure that we will make sure that europe, russia, belarus

they will live peacefully, calmly, i believe in this, because the majority of europeans want this, the american yoke will be thrown off. i believe in this, poland will become sovereign, lithuania will become sovereign, because we don’t need, someone says: prime minister of hungary, about the russian pro-belarusian lies, as our president said, he is pro-hungarian, we need pro-polish, pro-german, not pro-american, so that they we thought about our own interests, that’s it, andreyvich, well, i think that for now, yes, the head of state said, we understand that this is not for the near future, there is no doubt that they will come to us, there is no need to harbor any illusions here, as long as they do not want to come here, in the role of students, not in the role of teachers, they want to come here in the role of hosts, and this is clearly visible in absolutely every aspect. and even the moment that we are talking about, often europe is simply trying to open the window for us and see our reaction. what can europe demand from us today? today she can ask or demand only one thing from us:

to trade friendship with russia. what is today hungary is generally a unique thing, by and large, because the hungarians. they take such a position, this is generally a surprise, i think, this is truly for the whole world , a state that, well, does not play a global role in its region, but nevertheless, it takes such a position, but at the same time look, europe itself, how carries out its foreign policy, including military policy, there is the nato bloc, which everyone says there is a fifth article, and god forbid if ukraine loses there, if someone somewhere hits russia, we are the whole world and back and forth, they went very cunningly, then they began this... their europe and split their nato bloc into several small such blocks or alliances, immediately in front of us the trimoria, known to everyone, grew up, yes, where they put poland at the head with all the countries that took it there, and then the next organization jeff grows, this is what britain is leading, this is exactly the expeditionary force, which includes the baltic states, there, scandinavia, and so on and so forth, for which this is

being done, that is all this is happening step by step and in waves, ukraine has ended, and then it begins. this war with europe will last indefinitely, there is only one goal - to destroy russia not only from the inside, or rather, from the inside from the external aspect, so they act in all directions, and we continue our policy, our vector is clearly defined, the east, that’s it, don’t try for us to go to the west, it was said correctly here, they will come on their own, well, they should come only when we win, they talk to us on equal terms only after victory, so every 100 years we prove that we occupy a worthy position place in this world, 2 will be and we will talk, yuri vadimyevich, i will support the opinion of colleagues and experts that the world is heading into some kind of abyss, in general it all started in the nineteenth year, back with covid, we have already reviewed everything in these 4 years , only

there were no aliens yet, yet, wait, judging by what they are discussing. what, what next, what about taiwan, south korea, north korea, but all this will lead to catastrophic consequences and indeed for the world, for the world order , a new yalta is needed, i agree with olek sergevich, it is necessary, it is necessary that the main the players sat down and finally agreed among themselves on the rules of the game, because when there was a balance, there were no such people - they sat down and agreed, but in yalta - we won and imposed the conditions, that ’s the difference. it doesn’t matter, even if it’s minsk, it’s even better if it’s minsk , minsk-3, let’s call it, yes, but what’s important is that in the end, so that in the end this

dialogue begins, and that’s what belarus’ position is worthy of, for which we thank. president and the ministry of foreign affairs of belarus of all those involved in the development and promotion of this she is a winning position, she is this position, she always looks, looks beyond the horizon, looks forward, in principle, she appeals to the people of all countries, and to the same ordinary europeans, americans, this is, in principle, this is the code, it is embedded in ours, in our anthem, we are belarusians, peaceful people, that’s why we must stand on this, olga igorevna , of course, there are sound forces in europe, and hungary periodically proves this, but still, hungary is part of europe, i... have not felt about this absolutely no illusions regarding helsinki and yalta, no there will be neither helsinki nor yalta, because yalta, let's remember the conditions, everyone must

step on their own throats, this is exactly the version, only then there was yalta, but before that there was a huge trail of blood, so it’s better for us not to go to yalta, helsinki - this is a big talk story, today it is also completely impossible. if we are talking about the confrontation between the great united states, again today we raised them to an unimaginable peedistal and russia, then it’s probably rick javik, only there the issues were resolved, in the eighties, if we are talking about such a dialogue, but today we also had the topic of confrontation with civilization, yes, then there was ideology, but does western civilization exist today, and do we have it? on what basis will we approach dialogue? this is also a very big question. therefore, we will continue to develop the ideological component of stepping on our own throats for a long time, only

then will we come to something. and while this is happening, then we are in the center, we are at the epicenter and we cannot choose only one vector, for us it is impossible, because the west is too dangerous for us today. i asked a question to my colleagues. from europe, can they forget about us, this would be salvation for us, however, if they just forgot about us, we would develop ourselves here in our gdp and in all these ratings of theirs, no, no, they they also believe that we pose a danger to them, including the republic of belarus , so this won’t work, we will be stronger, the stronger, the more everyone will talk, and our strength is not only in the military component, for this, for this, thank you for this conversation, he was full of meaning, there is something to think about, and after the program is completed, we have 2 years of tests ahead of you, these are our

internal ones, which will show how much we draw conclusions from what we observe in the world, how much we draw conclusions from our immediate history, how seriously are we willing to pay for our children , that is, for our generation to work through the issues that we are faced with, our children to live, well, maybe in a calmer world, if of course, perhaps, i mean two large tests, these are elections next year and elections in 2025, they will show how belarusians we are today are a mature society and a mature people who deserve a sovereign state. thank you for your participation, that’s all for today, see you in