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i think, my god, do they really know that we have such an important festival here for us, and this is actually very important and interesting, a huge number of applications this year were from asian countries, and i noticed that we had in terms of the number of applications, there are three leaders, iran, pakistan and india, and each of these countries presented more films this year than russia, there was such a trend in the gaming competition, i think that our viewers will be surprised and pleasantly intrigued by that repertoire, those films that will be in the main competition, but not only mostly. is there still interest in this competition in europe and america? yes, of course, america, latin america, northern and european countries also submitted applications. i can’t say that there was some kind of blockade, or that we were somehow deprived of attention this year, it was still a film festival. this is a creative
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competition, this is an opportunity to show your latest works to colleagues, and here i think politics or some other force is not involved, after all, creative contact is a very important story for filmmakers, that is, this is the fall of leaves - this is one of the few cases when culture is actually outside of politics, this is a vivid example, absolutely true, and then, you know, elena viktorovna will not let me lie, as a director, the theater is very simply, you come into the hall, quietly listen to the breathing of the hall, see the reaction, in cinema, directors, actors are usually limited by the screen, they don’t know what ’s happening on the other side, how their work is perceived and film festivals are a unique opportunity to hear the breathing of the hall , hear the reaction of their colleagues, this is very important, then where will these meetings take place and where will it be possible to get acquainted with the films? well , the festival is presented in the four main cinemas of the capital of belarus, these are: cinemas
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central cinema house cinema belarus and pioneer, but after and during the festival there will be screenings in the regions of belarus, so our more distant viewers will not be left out either. i understand that it is difficult to talk about all the films that will be shown, but if you highlight a few of these highlights, maybe just those that will tear apart these templates? well, i would suggest highlighting the main highlight. about which elena viktorovna, due to her involvement, will probably speak modestly, this is our film from the film studio belarus film, the debut work of a young film director, a graduate of the academy of arts, who was assigned to belarus film and who managed to make his debut in a year and a half, these are filmmakers, a film , such an internal creative dedication to us, filmmakers, plus timed to coincide with the centenary of cinema, which we will celebrate next. year
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there is something very good there, let’s say, it conveys greetings from the younger generation, the generation of classics, i think that the audience will notice and appreciate it, the film was made by the youth cinema division, the belarus film studio, the film was released and we hope that it will be a good gift to the audience, both to the audience of the festival, and simply to spectators in belarus and beyond, since i hope that this film will have a good fate both at the box office and at the festival. so i think that this film will be a kind of highlight of the young cinema competition, where it and, as a matter of fact, it is presented, in addition, belarusian films are presented in the same way in the animation program in the competition, in the non-fiction film program, so you spoke at the beginning of our interview about breaking these patterns, territorial, probably geographical, what patterns will we break, well, probably this year for the first time, i’m not afraid to say this in the entire history... there will be a very
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clear turn towards asia and asian films will be presented, probably, well, half of the competition poster exactly, what are they about? in fact, modern cinema is all about people’s experiences, and returning to what i was talking about, that modern films try not only to break the mold, but i noticed that directors today are not interested in talking about certain global themes, in every country there are issues that are important for a particular society, and people through their films try to comprehend their own lives, comprehend their own history, comprehend the traditions or trends with which their country is developing, comprehend stereotypes and maybe some social standards, perhaps in a country with a christian
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consciousness it will be difficult to perceive films from muslim countries, but it is very important that we understand and we see what people think in their lives, that there is no universal question, which a movie must answer, then it will be important, and a movie should always answer the questions of those viewers to whom it is addressed, a movie is good when you start watching the first frame, you don’t know how it will end, and i expect that our leaf fall will be such an interesting and exciting series, where every day it will give new, new twists to the audience and no one will guess how it will end and what films will be awarded, thank you very much, i wish all of us an exciting series called leaf fall. thank you, the questions from the program were answered by elena turova, program director of the listopad competition, and tatyana komanova, program director of the feature film competition of the listopad film festival. results and analysis of the main events of this week in
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socio-political talk show in essence, today is november 6, tomorrow is a national holiday, the day of the october revolution, we will talk about it today, in order to join our conversation, here is a qr code , please hold your mobile phone screen up to it and you can write messages to us, here is the second qr code, and after downloading it, join our telegram channel, in principle you can know that , how does our program live off the air, kiril kazakov and alena syrova are with you, hello, good evening, well, in general, i’ll traditionally start with such behind-the-scenes stuff, but while we were preparing for the program, we discussed the significance of
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november 7 in general, here kiril is talking about that it's already 2 year, i’ve been pumping up the topic of the importance of this historical date, i want to say right away that due to my age i can also you...’ due to the fact that you are also a historian, i’ll say right away that yes, i, no, some is there rejection by november 7 or bewilderment about that? that we celebrate this day, but i want to develop this idea, and one of the arguments that is always given in favor of why belarus is one of those few countries that has so far introduced the great october holiday, so it celebrates it as a state holiday, always they say that it was precisely thanks to those events, the events of the seventeenth year, that, in principle, our country had a chance to gain a state. to me, as a young person born in a young, independent country, this argument, well, it just seems
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to be the most important and fundamental, besides, of course , those very historical events, yes, a certain part of our society is still going on, and i’m sure that tomorrow 7 november, they will go to the lenin monuments, all the classical attributes of this celebration will still be observed, but there is a feeling that it’s like, well not just births, but overfilling of this holiday is happening, alexey , i have a question for you, and as a historian, including as a young man, how correct in your opinion is it to overfill, let alone replace what -these concepts, but to refill those holidays that we have inherited with our own some new meanings, and you know, firstly, any holiday is , first of all, a tradition, and it seems to me, to refill... this is not entirely correct, why ? because we must understand clearly what events took place at that time, and this
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very long-standing events, we must understand the historical circumstances in which this or that event occurred and, accordingly, with this understanding, somehow in the future even educate young people and celebrate these holidays, what to say about specifically young people, attitudes, it is ambiguous, why? of course, there is that part of the youth who will come out at this time tomorrow to lay holy words on the lenin monument, there are those who will simply call... their grandparents and talk about their youth, and there are those who will not remember at all about this holiday, they will simply understand that it’s a day off, a day off, a day , yes, why, and from here, it seems to me that this is normal, this is objective, but what is the reason for such a stratification in young people, a specific opinion, it’s still upbringing, education is not school or student, but family, yes, because everything is simple, in fact, in my opinion, if in their youth their grandparents lived well in the soviet union for some reason, then they have this pride, joy for their lives , for his fatherland broadcasts to his generation, such
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the logic turns out in russia , for example, it’s not right, can i just say now, look, but if, for example, this holiday is torn away from the soviet union, well, look, we are torn off, well, relatively speaking, september 17, sometimes we are torn off, including from those events that took place in the thirty-ninth year, we are talking about the fact that two parts of the country united , for other events that took place, we are now talking not in the post-soviet
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space, in our country, and which our people owe, and what impact it had meaning specifically for us, well, this is right, i want to say, well, first, first, using your program, i want to congratulate our civil society on such a holiday, i look at the screensaver, here my mood immediately rises, i belong to the generation, to to the generation that caught, yeah. even with my grandfather, with my grandmother, with my parents, i participated in these processions, i participated in these rallies, i was a living witness, joy on people’s faces, friendship, brotherhood, they lent their shoulder to each other, that is, it was a completely different situation, and i'm glad, that tomorrow, i am sure of this, civil society will gather to lay flowers, as kiril said at the monument to vladimir ilyevich, and also regarding the holding of the rally. but you and i, alexey correctly raised the question: we must work with young people and
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explain this significance, first of all we must talk about those aspects that if there is no memory, there is no history, no history, no spirituality, culture, and how alexey said, there is no education, and without all these factors there is no person and no civil society, therefore, we must promote this position on an ongoing basis, alena, alekseyevich, well... the reasoning arose in general because, well, i think that many people know, but for those who don’t, yes, belarus is one of the few countries where is this transnistria, but transnistria is still not... but the state is not recognized at all, the russian federation refused, but in 2004, they had their own holiday on november 4, they celebrate it there, although it would seem strange, after all, russia is the main heir to that very soviet union, the question arises, what about the interpretation of exactly those events, that is, if for us
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, as i said above, this is a chance to gain statehood, then perhaps for the russians, this is a completely different connotation, since they refused, well, they did not refuse , tomorrow, from state status, maybe, yes, but in russia there are also enough holidays that are celebrated, and these holidays belong, and rather pass under the ideologists of the communist party, no matter what we say, but i’m sure, i know that tomorrow gennady andreevich zyubganov together with the public will also impose... and no one forbids this in russia , well, that’s right, not a state issue, look at the question purely historically, which means we are already talking a lot about the fact that the great october revolution really gave an opportunity, which the belarusians took advantage of in various ways reasons, to create your own republic, first soviet, then independent, already the one
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that exists now, and indeed, these events can be assessed differently, but the revolution gave... the opportunity here to create this republic, that’s the question, i i understand, as a historian, that any event can be viewed there through the prism of anything, but as far as i understand, and maybe not confused, the october revolution made it possible to create independent finland, lithuania, latvia, estonia, poland, the revolution in russia influenced the revolution in austria-hungary and prussia, a serbo-croatian-slovenian state appeared, and a separate independent hungary appeared, that is. in fact, we can say that this revolution, which then produced something like this, marched, roughly speaking, across europe, it after all, it gave independence to all these countries, why don’t they remember this, although the logic here is very simple, i think that they also remember very clearly, it is impossible to erase from history, what the revolution of 1917,
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the october revolution, played... .and the discovery of world history had a huge impact, this is indisputable, there is no need to repeat here, you very clearly showed that for our country today, the republic of belarus, this is one of the most significant events. look, before 1917, how can we talk about a nation state, yes, one can evaluate differently, for example, the occupation, the german occupation, was not supported by the majority of the population, but in principle , too, even in the history of belarusian statehood this period is very clearly described, but on january 1, by the way, we will
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celebrate the 105th anniversary of the formation of the bssr, i i mean the ussr, the socialist soviet republic of belarus. at the end of december, most likely there will be a round table, at the republican level we will celebrate this, for the first time the national form of belarusian statehood, and the fact that today alena, and kirillo vladimirovich, and all of us here live in the sovereign independent republic of belarus, we have a constitution, we have the opportunity in the constitution to have articles 15, 54, where all historical forms of statehood are, as it were, remembered, and most importantly. this is a merit of the october revolution, therefore this attitude, we will probably discuss with you today, but i especially prepared for this program, today i called many history teachers in schools, universities, with the authors of textbooks, teaching aids, and each of them
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noted the significance... of the revolution and those events that have happened for 106 years, okay, look, but the question for many people who, for example, in the twentieth year opposed the government, they say, the bpr is also a belarusian republic, why do we give preference to the bssr when you start talking about the fact that there are certain state principles, there is unity of territories, tax collection, its own army, that is, many, many things that, in fact , no one remembers when they say that we had the bpr, why, for example, do we really give more preference to the bssr from a historical point of view, not from an ideological one, yes, yes, the bssr, that’s all we have, by and large, today i’m a historian, here are young people standing , this, by and large, is also the merit of the october revolution and the acquisition of statehood on a soviet basis, and people supported this
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decision, i’ll also add, we say statehood, i completely agree, territorial integrity, then we say the bssr, well, we must understand that behind period of construction and the bssr, we created the largest foundation on which now ... our young country is based and developing, industrial, industrial, scientific and technical potential, let’s take the social aspects, healthcare, education, and i’ll show you, there were also our 14 soviet republics, they are all trying to forget this period, although everything that you said about, all this appeared in them, central asia, in fact , states appeared precisely. october revolution, you can add as much as you like distant history, for example, like the great ukrainians in ukraine, but still they also had it, they had it, but thanks to our
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president we have it, we didn’t privatize, didn’t destroy, didn’t sell, this is people’s property, these are the foundations , which were laid down by the communist party in the post-soviet space, the head of state alexander grigorievich lukashenko did not allow it all to be destroyed, well, it seems to me that after all , here we are talking about the fact that there were different attitudes initially, that is, we perfectly understood that we we are developing as a state, we are forming as a state, and many of them considered themselves already formed , you listen to the same ukrainians, yes, what do they say, they already call the soviet period there a period of almost occupation and seizure of their territories, and it was not lenin who created ukraine, they themselves
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... a national state in the republic of belarus, i’ll tell you this , lenin, when lenin carried out the revolution, he dreamed that it would be a world revolution, and then there was no place, so to speak, for a national state, yes, but the ukrainian people’s republic was supported in 17 years old latvia is there, you know, if you think about it, for example. on - well, the paradigms of this time, our modern one and the one that was there in the seventeenth, eighteenth, nineteenth year, then essentially the entente, which suddenly suddenly turned into an enemy, well, there the anglo-saxon world, they began to support all these ukrainian people's republics, there are some -the creation of kolchak, but in order to essentially destroy russia, because then who supported the civil war on the part of the whites? well, just the west, all those who are now called nato, andrey, are not is not it? you are asking the right question, today this assessment of the holiday is a question of specifically real relations with russia, they are very different for everyone today, that is, they say, occupiers, which means we
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created ourselves there, there was nothing russian there, everything this anti-soviet agitation, which we have in belarus, other republics , is equally anti-russian, this is an obligatory subtext, that is, they say, yes, we are against the communists, but it is also implied against the russians, that the russians were invaders there, which i don’t know here, occupied that entire territory, they teach about belarusian in school, so we had a system of parallel control, there were troops of the western front, where there were huge masses of soldiers who were not belarusian, but they fought here for 4 years, by the way , yes, but here there was also a relatively smaller group, for example, belarusian communists , the authorities made a decision manually, so who to support and what kind of government to create here, thank you for this, that the belarusian project was chosen, and then we ask the question is, why was all this necessary , that is, from the barsky shoulder we were given this statehood or for some task, but the task was simple, so it was being formed... on our western territory there was some kind of new polish statehood, there our belarusians were on rights of slaves, laborers, a powerless minority, which the poles oppressed in every possible way, they had to show the soviet
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authorities, look, there are other belarusians, your brothers, but who live normally, their own school, university, their own, their own science, their personnel appear, all this was oriented against poland, of course, and it gave results in 1939 , yes, look, the president, in my opinion, last year, speaking in the minsk arena, during the day of national unity, he told such an interesting story, which very few people actually remember, that when they came to help us from europe, from the west, we always lost people, lost statehood, lost a lot in general, as soon as russia came to help, we gained, here again , i'm after all, i’m not confusing anything, that when the polish state was created, yes, after all, there was also the question of what to give to the independent... after all, there was also no question of statehood, that is
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, it turns out that during. revolution that took place in russia, the russians gave us this opportunity, but no one else tried , so why should we then look to the west, where we were always considered second class, of course, the right of the nation to self-determination in soviet russia, albeit in the beginning as autonomy, but then, by the way, the eighteenth year, after kaiser's germany had already ceased to exist, by the end of the 18th the liberation of this territory began, polish, polish troops occupied this territory. this also influenced the fact that by december of the eighteenth year the decision was made to create the ussr. but you understand what’s the matter, that here we are gathered here, all so smart, all so immersed in history, some more, some talked about the fact that in order to understand some holidays in general, which means most importantly, the philosophy of our state, structure, you need to know history, just know history, but those people who just know history, even at
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an acceptable level. objectively, there are not so many of us with a program to explain at least in simple words for the majority, this holiday is limited there to some dry facts and associations with how alexey nikolaevich recalled his childhood with how it was celebrated and it was noted there that we got used to the fact that some important objects were opened, by the way, the head of state in ostrovets when we were there said that yes, it’s still true. even such a moment remained that maybe they would have done something longer, but then by the date for the holiday you need to give a gift, i never, when i started the program, said that it was necessary to abandon the historical basis, in principle, understanding , why this happened, but rather talked about what is needed in order to popularize this story, in order for it to take root, people need to, well
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, somehow sell this one. there is a request to understand the processes taking place around our country, now the twentieth year showed us this perfectly, that those who did not realize what was happening blindly went along with it, accordingly, so that this holiday would not be associated with something only bad, i don’t know, with something... then a relic, we need to put emphasis on what is important for us today, and what is important for us is this... the creation of our statehood, the development of our statehood, this is my personal opinion, but maybe the youth have something different , evgeniy, it’s generally clear that you communicate in a certain circle of young guys, to whom some such things probably don’t need to be explained, but you travel around the country, and you have some dialogue platforms there, you hear some questions being asked, well, what is the general attitude towards november 7, just let’s
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without slogans, without... some kind of rosy picture , there are simply those who do not go to dialogue platforms, and they most often live by a slightly different paradigm, western values, well , we have fallen under them, there is no escape, here’s how to explain it to them, well, in general, you correctly noticed that especially if take young people, then for them it’s a small poem, like the red day of the calendar, it’s a holiday, the day of november 7, yes, they know this poem and how they simply perceive it in such a humorous form, but for this. in general, the soviet government, when it existed here, left such a mark for posterity, these are monuments, our president correctly emphasized that we are the only country that remains, unfortunately, which celebrates only the seventh, well, the only country that celebrates this considers this a truly great holiday, the second point is that we are monuments, we left all the monuments, we are trying to maintain them in proper condition , that is, they even put the monument in order on independence square, that is, you all saw, i think the photographs, that is, we
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are preparing, and this monument is like a symbol of certain events that happened, a monument on independence square, it is a historical value, it doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter who stands there, we understand who it is, yes, well, it’s like a historical value, that’s the question -that another, who do not understand and do not know the name of lenin, vladimir ilvich, and do not know the author, and the author, look, can i complement my colleague, i really want to complement, then , look, it seems to me, and one of probably such important points that we must convey not only to young people, but to the entire population , that we must learn to accept our history and must learn to accept any events, good, bad, i will explain the logic, how this is connected with the seventh of november, when i communicate with young people on dialogue platforms and we touch on the topic, for example, the soviet union, it’s always november 7th, they immediately have a moment of association, that is, a revolution, they established the soviet regime and for some reason the most negative moments are from here, as a rule - if our regime is bad, if it’s good then this is
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the country here. well, there were negative moments, but there was also a lot of good, much more than bad, this is what i’m talking about, that the accents for years have focused the attention of the same youth, destructive forces on these. here is a good example of china, how they do with their stories come, they accept good bad moments, but most importantly, without mistakes there would not be the china that is today, why can’t we have such acceptance, maybe we have it, we essentially have it, but here look here, i just look, for me it’s understanding, if only here in minsk. opened the churchill bar, it most likely would not have caused any resonance at all. a fashionable name for one of the comrades who led great britain, and when you start reading history,
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for example, in the same india, how many people were said to have died in india, no one even gives up the opportunity, but if you call bar stalin, the hype will immediately begin, how many people died, when you say, let us still perceive this in paradigm of the time, how it was... churchill was from stalin at that time, even if we say so logically, and how cynically, they were no different, but we, pardon the expression, here perceive this story, churchill well, stalin is bad, but stalin is ours and only thanks to stalin, our country is what it is, and churchill, forgive me, this is a fashionable word here, but i would like, kiril, let me add, and our youth are literate, smart, they understand everything, but our task is to explain to them that that the processes that happened to us in the twentieth year, technologies are being developed, and one of the technologies, what i say on the dialogue platform is no secret, here andrei lazutkin, is to destroy everything connected with the communist party, the ideology
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of the communist party, the best in the world they didn’t come up with anything, i say right away, and through this they will attack the celebration of the october revolution, look, they are already doing this, they are turning it around, which is our great victory. unity day, other significant events that took place in our country need to be denigrated, so our task, i repeat , is to reach every young person, anastasia olegovna, please tell me, here’s how to prepare political scientists in general, so that they endure , right now, especially young political scientists who were no longer born in the soviet union, so that they could come and teach or talk about the soviet union about the great october revolution. revolution exactly as we say, yes , that is, so that this becomes the basis, relatively speaking, of the ideology of our modern state, you know, i probably want to say with joy about our youth, in general with pride to say about our youth, specifically about future political scientists, they created
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a project for our youth along the roads of history, which received a grant from the president of the republic of belarus in the field of youth policy, in as part of this project, they created a club for young analysts of belarus, it is very competent. who consider this history not only from the point of view of one country , but as you say, there is a lot, a lot, a lot of information, but from this flow of information they choose that objective information, and how to make them listen to them, create a club - it’s good, you know, if the youth themselves create a club, if the youth themselves go to the youth, then they listen to them, but in the beginning, you know, there is such a classical wisdom, teach three people to work and thousands will work, classic soviet. wisdom, yes, here i came, when i came, we had three, four, five people gathered, now they themselves are going, walking, they are talking, they are talking, okay, look, the question is not about political science, but still somewhere in this area, and when we talk about chagiwara, we roughly understand
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what it looks like, because a portrait of a chigiwara is such a marketing thing that is visible everywhere, it is printed on t-shirts, i don’t know, mugs, anywhere, there is such a story chigivars, about lenin. unfortunately, it’s impossible to say this not about stalin or lenin, when we, again, this may be western technology, but we understand that they work, this marketing, how to sell it beautifully, this is a bad word , maybe , within the framework of our program, but how can we sell this ideology, look, when the svo began, yeah, the guys who are fighting there, without assessing the svo, yes, they are marching with the soviet flag and it has become a trend here. they are a trend, thank god, there is no such thing, we don’t have one war, thank god, but how can this be done, not with the soviet flag, yes, exactly the soviet symbols, which would become a trend, because well, the soviet union has not existed since 1991, but their flag is more likely
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what they were talking about above, yes, that among young people, it is much more fashionable to remember some kind of western or distant ones, because they lived in this for a long time, they were in this for a long time. and now, in order to learn how to step by step again, they themselves must, let’s say, but i always tell them, okay, you talk about history, come up with this story, your own emblem, your own symbolism, add history to it, add it to a non... modern product with which you will go into further society. andrey, tell me how to learn to work like this as a marketer and how you can sell these very symbols of the soviet, and i will say, it depends on what problem you are solving, that is, our state symbols, they are essentially soviet, we don’t we need to come up with something new, yes, it’s a little changed, but everyone understands perfectly well where the roots come from, this is already everyone is filming some artificial structures there that need to be invented, you know, to invent something ourselves. the second point is, for example, street protests , yes, that is, they did not come out under a white-red-white
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flag, initially, it was a white flag and there were 3%, these are the numbers, and these were protests against violence there , and not for poland there, not for america, for something else, then, when a small group there tried to direct everyone to the same realities, they started having problems, that is, the nationalists tried to lead such a fairly broad amorphous movement, and we kind of have to proceed from this , that is, we didn’t have, you know, some sick country where every second person there was a nationalist, no, they can’t believe it, they don’t want to, we didn’t have that either , and there is no point in breaking these people over the knee, forcibly explaining something to them, in russia the situation is different, that is , they launched this military operation, but the question is how to evaluate it, in russia there is a leftist, quite strong direction, there is quite strong right, that is, some say we we are restoring the soviet union, and others say the russian empire, and this is a contradiction, because the question is, what national rights will this new ukrainian state have then, how is it planned, how will we address these people, these are russians, ukrainians, what the enemy is doing, they are also digging deep, that is, this is what is happening today, they
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are forming new brigades, for example, today the ukrainian ones, under poroshenko the petliura brigades were formed, these old all sorts of names were taken precisely from the upr, today there are already brigades like bandera, so they take these old names that were still in the second world war, and they are trying to insert them there, that is, they also remember symbols that have already been forgotten for a specific task, you know, they are looking for some roots, this is normal in fact, that is, but it’s a question of goal setting, that is, we need to explain something, that we should be proud of something like this, you know, and when we try to teach someone there, well, we must always show a good example, look , you can work with russia like this and not fight with with them, yes, here we cooperate, interact, carry out integration, look, the question is this, that is, when we say that the october revolution is, well, essentially, one of those days when after it we managed to create our own
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national state, even in the textbook the history of belarusian statehood, after all, we reach the polovsky principality, this is how it can be historically correlated with the fact that here we really created a national state after this event, but the president says the grand duchy of lithuania is also belarusian state, and the poltsk principality is a belarusian state, how does this correlate? that we are here on november 7th, well, here’s what i did, yes, here’s how to explain that this is an important period, november 7th, and the memory that we started from polotsk, or or i don’t know, the date of birth of the death of vytautas the great , well, you know, i’m a flock and i think that i’ve expressed this more than once, and my colleagues support me, for some reason we constantly make excuses, we...’ should be the other way around, there is such a thing, there’s a holiday on november 7, a cool
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holiday, yes what's the difference between others and we, we have a population of almost ten million, the russian federation within the framework of the union state is supported by many, millions and know what it is, but for some reason i ’ll explain to you, let’s move forward, we’re not just making excuses and not comparing like with others . in human psychology, it is as i will now give. an example of covid, when yes, when covid, when covid, all this corona psychosis, when it began , you remember, why there was bewilderment, yes among people, that we are not closing businesses, we are not stopping, we are not going away general quarantine, because they looked around with their heads left and right and well, the whole world was closed, but we weren’t, then the head of state, very patiently, as best he could, talked about why we were doing this, explaining popularly, what for and why
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, exactly the same story with november 7, well, roughly speaking, we turn right, left, we understand that only we have state status, why, why is this holiday so valuable and so important for us, because in fact this is one of the dates on the historical paradigm of the history of the belarusian state, now yes 7 november 106 years ago 17 year 160 106 years, but a state, if it is strong , sovereign... independent, has a thousand-year history, so the polotsk principality of turov, if you want, now we have submitted such proposals on the topic of dissertation research polotsk...
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statehood, because we are discussing this point, we are telling, we are conveying that, for example, even someone will say that they don’t watch television, this is not true, this is kirillo vladimirovich, remember, on the dialogue platform, how clearly, coolly everything was laid out, well, alexey nikolavich, i also want to add, vladimir leonidovich, vladimir leonidovich, i said this from a historical aspect, but i want to say that what is also connected with october or the october revolution is that it gave birth to a social guarantee for the people for society, which in our state , under the leadership
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of the head of state, they are developing annually, you look, first of all, the budget for 24 is now being discussed. what are the priority areas again, what interests people, even if, yes, some are not interested, for example, or do not respect the october revolution, but when it comes to personal social guarantees, they immediately come up, the october revolution , the communist party, if just one more second, alexey nikolaevich, don’t be offended, but look, we have a multinational state, we have how many parties passed today, four party, here with you. not only the communist party, but also white russia, both those and non-party people, they will also note that this is the important basis for this consolidation and the communists should not divide, the bolsheviks then cost not we divide, no, nikolai, well, how
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important is it, you listened to our entire discussion, but as a person who works with young people, as a person who actually teaches. well, naturally, yes, that is, how important and correct is what we are talking about now? maybe we are not explaining it to our children in the right way, children don’t need it, although they will grow up and become just like us, well, you know , the protected historical memory is this kind of chestnut, on which everything is grounded, and in the system of education, steel and all of ours country, we have a lot of work in this area, here we can... the best examples and practical measures that are used in other ways to capture the historical memory of the same way , on the contrary, we have a festival of museum pedagogy in the leninsky district.
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skin mentors of the history, belarusian language, russian language, any mentor once with their students can do some kind of good, worker, kali laska, and in all cases for the students... rastlumachvat, well, holy kastrychnitskaya valuers, what the heck, yak patrabna rastlumachvatsya, if they understood, they understood, well, well, from the first step, ah, yakuy for torture, for now, at the present stage, current students, they already, with some sense , some moments are possible and not dullness, they have ours is reasonable, ours... panic that we want this history of ours, we are adamant, peace, peace, happiness, education and the other, and you know, for example, tomorrow we will be with our students with a tasked future wash the knot at christmas time activities, i
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know from your students who uladzimir lenin is, of course, of course, here's the report and we'll come. i’ll tell you this more, at the current stage, for example, at various competitions and republican ones, navat and techna-intellect, and 100 ideas for belarus, the quality of the projects of students from all over the country is evident in you ku і on the topic of hysteria, anastasia alegaina , i’ll just tell you a story about your student, who is now working at the minsk news agency, here he is, that means kolechets, that means he has his nikyanov 1870 in his telegram channel, yes, and when i saw this, i’m just asking, i say, here’s how, why precisely lenin, he says, well... because this is really a man who brought a lot in history, but there are a lot of these guys, or, well, just so we understand,
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because they come, but they they come to a specific profession, in general there are just a lot of such guys , a lot of them, and even the same ring, the same slava sabansky, i can name a lot of them, well, by name, because i want to name everyone and i can be proud of everyone, yes, that is, this is not only political scientists, this is the faculty of accounting and economics, this is the faculty of management, this faculty of marketing, this is a faculty. how many of them come who understand, those who understand come, they come who understand and go on to teach this understanding to others, but wait, and which ones, they asked me to prepare, talk a little about what young people say, i took with me about that , what young people say, yes, that is, it’s about this holiday, good, that means, and very often they ask me, by the way, for igor aleksandrovich morzalyuk to come to us, because they rely, the standard program... is built on the basis of his textbook, please come to geo
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we ask you, yes, they say that we are paying attention to the fact that the revolution of 1917 created the conditions for the implementation of the idea of belarusian sovereignty, the idea, well , this is, in fact, our main task, we are speaking about this, this is the key role of october in the history of belarusian statehood, the october revolution was inevitable, since the provisional government could not decide who'. look, again, i live like all normal people in tiktok, although at my age it’s probably bad to live in tiktok, but still at work and i watch a lot of small historical videos made by young people who , in fact, talk about russian history, but this is not the case with belarusian history, i understand that the dialogue of the platform is important, but tiktok is really simple he doesn’t take the hands of a lot of people, maybe to ... somehow direct his thoughts there, maybe this space, the internet, yes, maybe there we need to talk about the flag, talk about the revolution, about lenin, here this and
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somehow, yes, here’s a way to explain who lenin is, who stalin is, why our country honors november 7th, maybe we should go there, it’s a really interesting idea, you reminded me, or rather, you proposed this idea, i remembered, that recently a series of such short films was created in russia, that’s what i ’m talking about. lenin, stalin, this is really, firstly, it all happened not so long ago, and this is a very ambiguous character, and even from the point of view, look, i started with this, i started with the fact that stalin is an ambiguous character, and churchel is an unambiguous character, stalin is really, so to speak, a unique personality who just so happened to be.
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listen, can i just make a remark for a second about lenin , stalin and churchill? it seems to me that there really is a rational grain in the fact that churchill was still far from being known from the films made, their ideology, and there is a historical character by whom we can judge there, but very remotely, and the same stalin, yes, our grandmothers.
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gymnasium number one of the city dzyatlova elena vikkentievna teacher radomskaya and i discussed with my brother, a historian in the novogrudok district of koshelevo, then with my aunt in the dzyatlovsky district. one point that people paid attention to, people don’t know, the impersonal history of butchers, worms, zhelunovich, karsky, by the way, is just the name of a street in the center of minsk, but what you know, i ’ll say, for example, you know where the belarusian soviet socialist republic january 1 , 1919, in which city? in smolensk, just no, just here, here i am as if here with the facts it may be normal, yes, but i’m just saying that we
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have been pumped up for some time, so... we did a program about cognitive wars, we were really pumped up, that our history is shameful, and you’re telling the truth say that many, why do we have to make excuses remember when we we we several years ago about, when even before the twentieth before the event we met somewhere, and i said, here is evgeniy ponasenkov, remember how he shows millions of views hitler, stalin, hitler, stalin, and everyone, but what’s bad with us ok, here again in relation to for example, if you read wikipedia , everything is bad there, if the news feed is without bad , journalists, sorry, it’s not always clear , we know that, but still, you still have to not be shy about the positive and a drop for to show, popularize, propagandize and not be shy about symbols, symbols, or events, andrey , look, you have your own entertaining political science project, where you are also very detailed, very, as i always say, the
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most sarcastic political scientist in our country , andrei lazutkin, in some way, yes... but you always bring out the positive, maybe we really don’t have enough, well, again, here we stand, however, we seem to explain, lenin and stalin are ambiguous characters, i as a historian, i can argue as much as i can here, but still this is an opinion , how to convince and how to convince, again, this is the same marketing story, how to sell chagevara and how to sell lenin, well , i’ll answer you as a practice, which means we we live in the same cultural field with russia, i like it some people don’t like it, well, that’s how it is, our belarusian volume is small, objectively. the volume is more russian, all these trends that exist there, both good and bad, they all flow here, our youth, well, let’s say there is a politicized group there, 20-25 percent, so they are very interested in any kind of politics, then they watch russian resources, what she will see there, well, depending on her luck, something is just good, something bad, someone is looking at sobchak, yes, someone i don’t know, puchkova is more of such a left-wing blogger, that is, it can be on any
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the taste is to find something there, these are the debates that we are retelling today like this, these are the debates that are going on today, they decide for themselves based on their history, like the chinese, this is bad, this is good, well then we can follow their version i don’t know how to adjust any, but this general picture, while it’s not there while svo is going on and while you know all this is written in blood, but of course it’s difficult to argue about what was good and what was bad, if you take it again about the nineties, yes, well, again, we lived in this cultural field then everything that was directed then against russia against russian history, like you should hate yourself, your ancestors, your soldiers who fought, they explained that you have a thousand-year history, you are so ancient and well done, the russians are very bad , they explained to the russians themselves, you must dissociate yourself from everyone, leave everywhere and sit and repent , pay money there to the west as reparations , that is, this is the liberal version of russian history, today they are migrating back to us for export, it turns out that we should, as it were, belarusian forces are trying to refute it, but we
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are trying, of course this is a matter, but it turns out that then it’s not worth talking about it at all? no, it’s worth it, it’s worth it, you know, of course, no one will do our work for us, but this is work specifically in belarus, influencing the russian cultural field, of course, is very difficult, there may be one version, in russia there will be another, in the end it will turn out, well you know, even confrontation, look, maybe i, you too, can correct me, look, we are because november 7 is our belarusian holiday, that’s what it really is belarusian, it is no longer russian, it is not soviet, it is our belarusian holiday, from the point of view, well, at least okay, this is my opinion as a historian, as a journalist. is that lenin and stalin, with all of them, for example, some kind of assessment in russia and in the west, for belarus, for belarus, the creators of the state, for belarus, at least for belarus, we can tell this story, that’s how andrey says, she’s pumping the russian one here, we can create our own, we have our own holiday, we have our own heroes, after all, madudun is also a rather ambiguous person, but in china in china he is the...
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library, and there are textbooks. and the forest on the created national belarusian state because that’s the way it is, and allow me, i also wanted to add one of the elements, first, we also discussed this a lot, of course, from you, from journalists too, a lot, to saturate this agenda and discuss these topics, what you are today you do, this is very important, second, let’s say, in our party, the only party out of four has officially created a youth wing, it is in no way in opposition to the brsm, it is a league of communist youth, well, as andrei lazutkin said, these are people , young people who are interested in politics, diplomacy. this means we teach them, they respectively perform at other venues with their peers, plus we conduct fairly large-scale international activities, where our youth share the historical facts of our homeland with others
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with their peers abroad, this is also one of the elements, the communist movement in europe is still popular , and let me take a couple of seconds, it is also symbolic that today the program is dedicated to the celebration of november 7 - great october , i want to congratulate and i know that kirill alena doesn’t have any anniversary medals, our party issued anniversary medals for the centenary of the great october socialist revolution, so i want to present with pleasure, thank you, that’s it, yes, this is it, this is reality, alyonushka, so this is, well, here by the way, here, by the way, there are three symbols, the crosser, aurora, stalin and lenin, lenin , whatever one may say, for us, really, well , to a certain extent, these are things that are the modern state that we have, i’m not igor aleksandrovich did not accuse me
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of interpreting his words, we also talked with him , he said, he has the largest collection of literature on lenin’s works on stalin, stalin is probably one of the most people who read. these are his words in the next program when he comes about this, you just know it seems to me that due to certain facts, andriy well said this phrase that 20-25% of young people there are those who are interested in politics, because i have a favorite phrase from our sociologists who say that up to 30% there should be a little more of this creative class, which is interested in politics, economics, in society, this society is already unstable, there are too many ideas, that’s why i understand that, in principle, we have a sufficient number of young people who are really ready for
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well, to promote these ideas as well, evgeniya, well, actually , i’m saying again, don’t be offended by me for lenin and stalin, i’m expressing my point of view, but i’m speaking correctly, and andrei is correct says that we have there, relatively speaking, a third of the guys who, well, who can be called young, who... can really determine the ideology of our country there in the future, no matter how pretentious it may sound, but we have to live, you determine, you will come after us, you will determine which holidays, which monuments? yes, that’s right, indeed, in the future, these fords will be passed on to the youth, and we will promote ideologies based on the experience of previous years, therefore, including the rich experience of the communist party, the communist ideology, because even our ideologies, the president always emphasizes this , which are promoted in belarus, those socially. state, you will, because you were raised that way, you are like the soviet union, so we will build our ideology based on the past, you will
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educated, but there is also a layer of other young people, who have different values and understandings, who are not among those interested, but who do not watch historical videos on tiktok, but those who are proficient must perceive this at a subcutaneous level... as our native symbols , our holidays, simply because it’s ours, here’s our flag, the coat of arms is ours, our holiday, that’s it, there are no questions, it’s belarusian, then you come back again , back to the topic of how to sell, package, how to sell, pack, we just maybe we are talking in modern terms, but still, tell me how to sell this same lenin at school, for example, this holiday, how to sell, how to sell, well , i understood, nasamrech, well, in the early hours, nasamrech geta so, dzetsi,
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well, not like that, natural pasture and training and acquisition, all of you are pra, coat of arms, pra cyag, pra national festivals, every day, well , every day, every day we talk to each other, and these tortures are being extinguished, and geta tsikavits. in our country, for example, on the 8th day of the month, we will not be here again so that we will sing the anthem, and we will all sing, i am not ashamed of the getaga. this is the same way and all of you asked torturedly: what do you know about lenin’s dzetsi? yany navat tsituts, of course, yany not tsututsya there, well, that’s the job, right? and i know, i know, i grew up, i know, i know that we are mentors, well, we are taking advantage of this and we know, and we know, the number of journalists, who are usually called extremists, who very carefully monitor our program, the text is constantly
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introducing it, they always have a question, for example, they talked about how to make november 7th a national holiday, yes, because we want it to become a national holiday, we really want this and talk about the fact that if it doesn’t happen for us, and it seems to me that it is already popular, if we do not have the idea to abandon it there and the question does not arise , we rather have a question, again, you can criticize me, but why is it there... no, at the state level, for example , our neighbors are there, but there are no questions about why he is on enshrined in our country at the state level, there is another point here, to our respected historians, we very often touch on it in the context of such programs, that the same children may ask about that, rather at the stage of study, yes, why, again, this particular we elevated the historical date to the rank of, well, the highest public holiday
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, here are others on which many experts speculate that why don’t we still make january 1 a public holiday, because the bssr was created, it’s clear that new year is here, here there are many different stories, but they still talk about it, because the day of the creation of the bssr, well , is also essentially one step towards creation. states, we have fewer public holidays, so in relation to january 11, maybe, of course, you clearly said here, the new year and there seem to be other things, if we go back to national unity day on september 17, how many times should we they said no, july is independence day,
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but the day of the october revolution, these are traditions, they were always the first first holiday, alexey nikolaevich, remember, from history, it was already noted in 1818, the first in 1818, and then every year, during the great patriotic war, the same thing. we remembered, celebrated and celebrated the parades in moscow on november 7, but i really like, at the end of the program, i really like the approach of our alexander grigorievich, in the context of what he says: you need to act like a businessman, so he says this very often, from the point of view of the economy there, from the point of view of the work of industrial enterprises there, it seems to me that this is the approach in business, maybe in the humanitarian
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ideological sphere, because it’s really... we lived for many years, just like this, to take and refuse to throw something away, but always by november 7th, the president talks about this, it’s always simpler, so you could look at in general, we followed that path, we could see how it would be experienced there in the young state, how much society would perceive it, and as we see, time has shown that the holiday itself has adapted, and the format of its celebration, because no one no longer forces you to go to these demonstrations there, ah, everyone does what he considers necessary on this day at the command of his heart, so it turns out that historical events, traditions that have already taken root in the subcortex of our belarusian consciousness are acquiring those forms that we now really need in this historical period, well, then something may or may not change, well, look, the president very often says, because the seventh... it
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has come and we, as it were, are also a holiday of justice, but what regarding sales, here you know, once they conducted such a marketing research, and they came up with the main, most successful trademark, trademark in general in the whole world, as these experts say, it was young and young, everyone knows, they sell sickle and young.
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the upcoming parliamentary elections are the most important political campaign for belarus. about this and more in detail. council of the republic, alexander lukashenko asked what the situation is in general, as well as how preparations are going on locally, the head of state announced a big conversation ahead on this topic, including including representatives of political parties. you have a whole range of problems that will need to be monitored during the preparation and implementation of these elections, tomorrow we will discuss them more specifically at a meeting with representatives of the parties that are registered with us, are parties, those that have been registered, and that intend, as i understand it, to participate in parliamentary elections , so we will discuss, but first, what is the situation, how people and
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governors are working on the ground, we openly and honestly said that we will participate in these in every possible way elections, i mean the vertical of power, this is a very... important company in belarus , there is nothing more important than a political campaign next year , then the formation of the all-belarus people's assembly, the election of delegates to this meeting, how are things going from your point of view, i ask you should continue to avoid this topic, as far as possible, as much as the central election commission will need to help and support them together with the presidential administration. lower house of parliament. alexander lukashenko asked how things were in the capital, considering that natalya kachanova is the full representative of the president in minsk. the focus is also on the situation in the regions, which worries people locally, especially given the preparations for next year’s election campaign. as the head
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of the council of the republic noted, not only governors and local authorities, but also public organizations were involved in active work. the eleventh meeting of the belarusian-turkish conference took place in ankara. commission on economic cooperation, during the work a rapid increase in trade between two countries, the level of one and a half billion dollars, which was set as a guideline by the presidents of belarus and turkey, can be reached in the near future. interaction with turkey is carried out in a wide range of areas and is supported by political contacts and dialogue at the highest level, at the level of... intergovernmental communication, inter-parliamentary communication and serious interdepartmental cooperation. our meeting today is a clear confirmation of the presence of serious support focus on active development.
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