[000:00:00;00] after your departure from belarus for security reasons, why is zelensky so afraid of you, no, well, thank you, it’s too loud, well, no, well, i read myself that your opponents are writing to you, too loudly, but they have some kind of moment, in -firstly, it is clear that there is even a case for terrorism, according to me, in ukraine , that is, they are there, it is clear that all... single people on our side are a target for them, because they know how to use information, they understand how information warfare, information warfare in general is important and when there is a popular person, a popular person, especially one who, let’s say , took part in hostilities and so on, they, of course, want to eliminate this person, eliminate him as loudly as possible,

in order to demonstrate their successes. with which they will once again have to partly demoralize our society, our military and inspire their military , that is, this is just another peremoga, which in any case they are trying, okay, but daniil, look, i don’t need to explain how information security depends the security of the country as a whole, i know that one of your principles when carrying out information policy, when you were first deputy minister... what did you put into this concept? any informational occasion carries harm and benefit, any absolutely, for any segment, for our segment, any informational occasion, even at first glance positive, but still a drop of some kind of negativity, some kind of harm causes, on the contrary, benefit should always exceed the harm several times, because this also needs to be assessed,

of course, there is no... which talks about each case, it is very difficult, yes, but you need to understand what will follow, that is, when you publish some information, you must understand what will happen next, how it will affect your segment, the enemy’s segment, how the enemy will use this information published, that’s the most important thing, that’s why sometimes i allow criticism, here on my resources, sometimes even on live broadcasts there on federal channels, but because at the moment it’s not because i want to hype up criticism, well again yes popular word hype, or show how truthful i am, because at that moment, in those circumstances, in that information field, this is very important, because when there are excesses, uh, in propaganda, and we have

some problems there, that’s it, criticism and coverage of real problems, it does not increase, it reduces social tension, because people, uh, when they know that there are problems, they expect someone to solve them, after all, someone will start talking about them solve these problems, the principle is that if a fool knows that he is a fool, he is no longer a fool, and therefore moreover, when he talks about this, when people see that on federal channels or some official... on the face, he says, well, we have a problem, it needs to be solved, then the person is like, that’s it, well, about they started talking about this, it means that this will be resolved, especially for the military community, in our country and not only in the military community, i think that you and i have the same problems, the principle that journalists try to profess is that if an event happened, you should talk about him first, yes, yes, yes, how problematic is this for you, it was in

when i was first deputy minister, well, i always tried, i even allowed, on your telegram channel, even before the start, you can name your telegram channel, if it’s not a secret, and of course, not official bessonov, telegram channel, and i even talked about our losses, that is, when, again, before the start of a special military operation, when we had positional battles, that is, probably all our viewers know that we have been at war in donbass since 2014, it turns out that in one the day is dying, let’s say... but our official source says, let’s say one dead and two wounded, for some reason, there were moments when i write, yes, guys, heroes , nine people died, for example, there are 10 wounded and so on, why am i doing this, because the enemy will do it, anyway ,

he will even show the squad. how it happened, but in 2 days obituaries will appear on the internet, the funeral will take place, everyone will know about it in 2 days, but we... with our own hands we simply achieve distrust on the part of our audience of trust, the audience immediately begins to pay attention to enemy resources search for information on resources enemy, this should never be allowed, and sometimes i had to take myself, again, this is not for the sake of some kind of hype or there i am like this, no, because there were moments when it was necessary to take myself, let’s say yes, responsibly. and publish this information on your own behalf, that it happened just like that, as it were, that is, you even understand that for this you, to put it mildly, will succeed, yes, well, of course, well, just when you live your work, when

you believe in what you do, and you simply can’t do it any other way, you think that you are betraying the dead guys and your people in general if you don’t do the right thing at this moment, daniil, many people know you by your call sign goodwin? great terrible, right? yes, although, as far as i know, initially you wanted to be a golden eagle or a demon, yes, a demon, a demon, a golden eagle, yes, but , to be honest, after the events of the fourteenth, in kiev, and not only in kiev, in ukraine, when from -because of the cowardice of the authorities, berkut was literally killed in the streets, well, this is not a very happy name for the fighters, or am i mistaken, well, no quite so, it’s just that berkut very quickly lost authority in our eyes when he began to fight against us, very quickly, back in the days of the slavs, when they stood at checkpoints and began to clash with us, so for me at the moment berkut

has ceased to be at all does not deserve authority and good memory, but after they were, as it were, those who left, those who moved to russia, left in exasperation, and so on, they were simply handsome, and those who knelt in front of the right sector, they were, well, themselves discredited, that's it. so yeah about call name, yes, i just somehow intuitively happened, because when i arrived in slavensk, they told me, we have names here, no surnames, only call names, so that the enemy doesn’t guess, it’s understandable, i think so, that’s pesson’s devil, no, but i didn’t know about bezler yet, they say no, wait, we already have a demon, so okay, golden eagle, no, there’s a golden eagle too, but what is it, he tells me, well, think about it until the evening, i’m just leaving the office, i have... what’s in my head, well, maybe from childhood i loved the cartoon the wizard of the emerald city, we all loved him, probably, but somehow it just arose in my head , i come back like that, i say, and goodwin, oh, goodwin is not busy

being the first, everything, everything, and then it so happened that i realized that it was no coincidence that this occurred to me, because one way or another, in the militia i was a field commander of various ranks and i had to be... firstly, i was a company instructor in combat training, i had to be a teacher and political officer there , and as a father, yes, that is, you, like this, had to give brains to a scarecrow there, a lion has courage, but there is a woodcutter’s heart, how can i explain it, sometimes i even had to deceive the fighters so that they wouldn’t just go crazy, he’s a very young man, you’re not yet 40, well then i was already thirty, yes, now i’m 39 , that’s when some terrible things happened there. there are shellings and battles all around, we don’t understand what’s going on, you come back from a meeting, line up the fighters, well, as far as possible, where we were, and you say, everything’s fine, we’ve burned tanks there right now ,

and you’re just making up the idea that everything is bo, but i think so myself, what’s going on, maybe we already have an enemy in our rear, no one says anything, the lack of information in a war causes more panic than enemy tanks on the battlefield that are moving at you. we had a lot of desserts, people went crazy for it, guys, well, it was really a very war - it’s a very scary thing, in fact, but 2014, it was a turning point for you, you didn’t agree with the coup d’etat, the new political course and moved to donbass, but why ukrainian the investigator of the ministry of internal affairs became a russian, well, let's say, a fighter first of all, well, first of all, initially, i did not plan to go to war, that is, i am often asked, how did you choose this side, that is, i did not choose, i like which side i was on, which i was on, i just perceived donbass as a springboard for the fact that

this is where the liberation of ukraine will begin, yes, that is, again we have all these nazis there, then there were such groups as the right sector and self-defense maidan, they were the most stubborn, there were many more small tridents there, there is something there... a yellow hammer, there are some other things there, so i perceived donbass as a bridgehead, that we were now in protest moods there , i understood that i needed to participate in this, without understanding it. that this was a war, that is, i roughly understood that there would be some kind of conflicts, shootings, because then this already happened, then the pravoseks there in kharkov on rymorskaya shot the guys there and the like, that’s when i came to donbass, just i understood that i had to be part of this, because it’s easy to put likes or dislikes are not an option, although then i already tried, having not a small resource, just on my vkontakte page, about... for the savings there, who shot, which snipers and so on from different angles,

that is, i tried to publish what actually happened there in kiev on the maidan, but this was not enough at that moment , because well, i have 50 subscribers there, okay, well, well, you’re a kiev resident, roughly speaking, so you come to donetsk, and well here i am, yes, i am an employee of the system, i am an employee of the ministry of internal affairs, i i quit my job back in 2007, then i went into civilian life, worked in civilian life, as if i had just arrived. i initially communicated in contact with a person with stas from donetsk, i just know the name stas, and when i didn’t just arrive here, it turned out that on april 7 the dpr was proclaimed, someone from the donetsk regional administration addressed people on social networks that come, we’re about to be navigated, they’ll beat us up there and so on , come, as if to help, and before that i was still in dnepropetrovsk and took part in... the maidan

in the plan there was a need for a regional prosecutor’s office to protect there to help the local berkut and so on, i was already, as it were, personally involved in this, that is, i was already in principle in the subject, and when in donetsk they asked for help, come, we need it, the more of us there are, the less the chances , that now they will just kill us all, beat us, and on april 8, the very next day i was, as it were, in donetsk, so yes, i’m a comrade from i didn’t know anyone, i wrote, i said, where should i go? well, i have a friend there, come there on the sixth floor, that’s it, well, i came to the regional administration, it’s all like people, they’re wearing masks, everything there was a flag of russia and he calmly went to the sixth floor and said, that’s all, and a few days later i was already, as it were, a person there, who was generally interesting there at that time, there were a lot of people who periodically closed someone there, ss officers, someone became the minister of defense of the dpr, that is, there and there - the power bloc

was somehow like this, the positions were there, in general, the social elevator could be very large in the regional administration at that time, and i was appointed then this is the person who temporarily performed duties minister defense says so you will be the senior of the sixth floor and then the regional administration, she didn’t know how to say it correctly , this is all this was the territory of the dpr, exactly within the framework of this building, every floor is there, so here is ugledar here there, shakhtyorsk, here there, slavyansk, as if yes, that is, they wrote, you are already one big building, yes, this is exactly what was, as it were, the first state, that’s as far as one can say, so i was part of it, then there was the situation in mariupol, on the 16th my april, when we were invited, they asked for security a rally in front of the military unit of the internal troops, and it was a trap, they just took us

there... in different regions, yes, well, just shoot, that is, such punitive operations, like in odessa on may 2, this is within the framework of this whole global, that is, this is a method of dealing with protest, that is , demonstrative, yes, that is, select the most active ones who are ready to fight, lure them demonstratively, simply liquidate them, so that others are discouraged. so we arrived, it turned out that the military unit wanted to surrender according to legend, that is, the military unit i’m ready to give up, but they need to be given a reason to make some noise, we had somewhere, well , more than 30 people, there we were divided into three groups, separated, i was the head of the central group, in front of the central gate, and then molotov cocktails appeared there , well, that is, like this, in the end they started shooting us, a wounded man immediately appeared in my group, that is, there were immediately 13 wounded dead, then there were

about 13 people dead, that is, there was such a serious mess there, and i kind of realized that well, i was lucky, we were kind of shooting there it started when we removed the gates of the central part, and it was already dark, the dark time of day, and there were cars blocking the entrance, and we pushed one car, there was a fighter with the call sign archie, he climbed into the cabin, released the hand brake, we pushed in... .. i thought so, well, this can’t happen, as if, that is, it’s 100%, these are rubber bullets, then i think , well, it’s unlikely that automatic shooting of a rubber bullet, then i started to drag one away, we already dragged him over the fence, and

he there are still three holes in his chest, he’s there. well, it’s true that you met in the trenches with your sides, including from western ukraine, from kiev, yes, yes, not all, let’s say, right-wingers, nazis, no, in slavyansk there were a lot of kievites, including a vandal, this is the call sign vandal, this is vladimir savelel, surname , he was 16 years old at the time, so he was then in a platoon in the anti-tank platoon of motorola, back then it was still like sparta, i have never seen such a name, that is, there was motorola, there was his anti-tank platoon, so vandal, he was like a medical instructor, that is, a medic in this group, 16 years old from kiev, here was a man with ivanofrankovsk, such a very healthy man with a beard, it’s like, these are the ones you personally knew, these are the ones who, well, i kind of

came across in mine, as if well, well, this is foreign speech, what’s understandable, they say that tens of thousands of mercenaries fought there and thousands are now fighting there from ukraine, yes, against donetsk and against russia , but how often can foreign speech now be heard, in principle, from the other side, well, we have enough foreigners in different units, a lot , we have a lot of foreigners from different countries, absolutely, there are americans too, well, because it seems that foreigners are fighting for them, yes, almost the whole world is there, they come from many countries, from our side. this phenomenon is missing, there is, there is, there is, it’s just that we don’t have much publicity for it, there are some from african countries, and why not talk about it, i don’t know, are there any legal restrictions, these are volunteers, i i’m not ready to answer this question, because well, it’s not for me to decide and i don’t know the reasons why, maybe people

themselves don’t want to talk about it, that’s the same it happens, it happens, well, i understand that it’s still too much to tell everything about the situation from open sources, what is in open sources, of course, but look, you can definitely talk about the mood among the civilian population, including in donetsk, yes, is it possible to get tired of the struggle, even for life and a better future, is this how you feel? you can get tired of stupidity. that is, if we are talking about donetsk, makeyevka and other front-line zones, war, regular shelling - this is a very strong stress

factor, but people are ready to endure it for their future, but people are not ready to tolerate injustice on the part of some officials, that’s what people are most offended by... it’s the shelling that offends them, it becomes like a catalyst, like a factor that adds contrast to these emotions, that is, they are ready to live under shelling, they want so that they value it, and not so that officials treat them as their vodka, or what? this is something worth paying attention to, but in our country , unfortunately, they don’t pay attention to this, that there are regions in crisis. in terms of emotional, in terms of social tension, of course, front-line zone, and when an official arrives from other regions and begins to behave like a master, it is very annoying , well, that is, there must be respect, it must be, it won’t work out any other way, the people deserve it,

no matter what, the people they deserve respect, but now the roads there are great, everything, that is, just in the villages, well, that is, in terms of material investments, that’s all, yes, but uh, bureaucracy, when people are forced to get some kind of certificate there, something or when let's say our bankers, i even talked about this once in my channel wrote, while in office, the city is being shelled , and coronavirus regulations are still in effect , only one person can enter a bank branch, and the rest are standing on the street, in the event of a shell arriving, this is just banal stupidity from -for the bureaucracy, well, i don’t have this now, it was at the beginning, that there, thank god, maybe i’ll ask the most hackneyed question, a little boring, but for me,

it’s important for me to hear this from you, that’s where and when in your opinion, in the personal opinion of daniil bessonov, will svo end? well, firstly, i believe that as long as the ukrainian state exists there will be war, that is, the ukrainian state, it, well, of course, it was established by the west not in order to live and prosper, it was built specifically as the tip of a spear that should kill russian bear, that’s all, this is the role of the ukrainian state, the ukrainian state, as the ukrainian people, as a result, agreed to become this spear, uh, the fact that this spear, this tip, it is like a tool, like a weapon, will become unusable, and may not even achieve this...

the goals are unsuitable, this is obvious, they agreed to this, so as long as this weapon is capable of killing a bear, there will be danger, there will be attempts, the intentions will remain, that’s not why the americans are investing hundreds of billions of dollars there, so that again there , the world has come, everyone has lived happily, this has been obvious since 1914, from these cookies on the maidan , from the fact that the americans... admitted that yes, we invested 5 billion in ukrainian democracy, yes, that is, a coup, now , in my opinion, wall street journal wrote about the special services about how the cia supervises the sbu, gur, that the sbu initially created a department for interaction with the cia, everything, agur is originally the brainchild of the cia, yes, that is, all the operations that are carried out by gur and the sbu outside ukraine, everything is coordinated with the cia , that is, that means... how come the americans admit this, but the americans don’t care, they demonstrate their strength, we constantly

express some deep concerns, talk about what will happen immediate response, so they sent our diplomats, we will answer, don’t even doubt it, the journalists were expelled, we will answer and so on, it’s better to remain silent, it seems to me, but the americans are not demonstrating. impudence and the fact that when third parties look at what is happening, they seem to understand when it becomes, this is global politics, yes , that is, when there is some country there that is observing from the outside what is happening, americans speak from the point of view of strength, and we speak from the point of view of weakness, and of course, we must be friends with america, it’s like that behaves from a position of strength, so let’s be friends with them. these are always something incomprehensible, some kind of position, here we won’t be friends with them, this is what it looks like, but this is my subjective opinion,

well, that is, ukraine was initially preparing as a country for the slaughter, of course, but that’s it in general ninety-first year, when the soviet union collapsed, every post-soviet republic around russia was considered like this, soras funds began to actively visit and the like, we know, i may be you i’ll amuse you a little, here... even the most notorious fugitives, those who fled from belarus after the twentieth year, they themselves now openly admit that, in principle, belarus should have first acted in this role of anti-russia and become a victim, this is true , precisely due to the change of power here and thereby surrender, as they say, into the hands of, well, okay, let’s talk a little about the issues on the current agenda, not only about history, the aggravation of: the palestinian-israeli conflict, yes, she not only removed

the ukrainian agenda from the western press, but forced us to draw analogies, some analogies, thousands of people must die in order to feed the american military industry, for genocide, this is no longer a word from a history textbook, this is reality, and you yourself draw these parallels, well, for me, let’s say, in in this conflict, the most important thing... is precisely that the israelis showed what war really is and what genocide really is, what it all looks like, so after what the israelis are doing there, we can talk about that russia is the aggressor in ukraine, look, there somewhere by chance, a civilian was killed there by some kind of missile, that’s what israel is doing now in the gas sector, they’re just completely demolishing people, everyone, and so on, so to say that russia is the aggressor, i think,

this will already sound, well, funny, as if absurd, well, at least those who would say that russia is an aggressor understand this, and uh, the main thing is that our people understand this, because they see it, the very thing, the most the main thing is your segment, that is, your people, work in your segment, this is the most important thing, because it turns out that the enemy works very effectively within our segment, because we were somehow brought up in the right way, that you can’t be an aggressor, we are so kind, good will always defeat evil there, although this is not entirely true, whoever wins is the one who wins and sometimes good things happen, yes, well, that’s how it is, the winner writes stories, should write, but these are all these moments, and when they say, russia attacked ukraine, and those who are not in the subject do not understand how it all worked out, why did it happen, they were like, well, yes, it attacked, yes, that’s it, i’m against it this, i am against and so on, i will help the ukrainians, even someone, i mean

now a segment on the territory of russia, now there are even especially according to makarevich there and some who escaped, yes, who are there, we are against the aggressor, against the war , fled to israel, and why are you now against the war there, against the thousands of children who died in a few days, but i’ll die, and so on, and the main thing is that our segment sees this now, that is, at least many, those who are even adequate people, simply due to lack of information, they judge by on the surface, so russia: sent troops to ukraine, everything is going wrong, now at least they will at least think about it and delve into the prehistory and something fresh, and even the same war in donbass, so maybe they will be in to figure this out, but the most important thing is that at least we have an argument to counter the fact that guys, look , because they laugh at us when we say, we didn’t start fighting, and this is not a war with special forces and so on, now we we can say, look, there’s a war over there,

look, the gaza sector is at war. here you go how? i gave an example of how we speak, yes, that is, on the one hand, this also sounds too propagandistic, because why didn’t they start fighting? no, you understand perfectly well, we don’t have to be ashamed of the fact that we are propagandists, sometimes we say what needs to be said, no, i mean, propaganda works until it becomes obvious, there must be propaganda, this is the highest aerobatics of journalism, yes, but not necessary. add pathos to this process, as if to prevent it from becoming, here’s another point, the new speaker of the us congress, johnson, the end is clear, yes, yes, who clearly stated the division of military aid packages for ukraine and israel. biden is going to veto such a decision, yes, this moment, without new weapons and financial influences, how viable is the zelsky regime, how

viable is this war, then from ukraine. well, here’s the moment, of course, israel will pull back the aid that was supposed to go to ukraine, this, well, this is obvious, and financial in terms of ammunition and the like, now we won’t immediately notice it at the front, but i think this is coming soon will already be noticeable directly on the front line, yes, but uh, about the zelsky regime, how dangerous it is for him, without help, of course, without finance and without support, without nato technology, without nato intelligence and so on, well, it wouldn’t exist ukraine, well, this is obvious, back in that year there would have been no ukraine, that is, even in open sources there are western documents, for example, there were publications when the delta was hacked, here the publication was on the joker

dnr telegram channel, there were nato documents , which are target designations in english. there is engels airport airfield and so on, that is, target designation not only in the zone of a special military operation, but also on the territory of all of russia, dalta - a system of command and control of troops, a system of command and control of troops, yes, which was developed, well, supposedly by ukrainian volunteers, together with the american ones, who developed , yes, yes, this is a very effective system, and there in this system all the intelligence that nato obtains is sent there, and they are also driven there. there, that is, all nato intelligence, the entire satellite constellation and so on, it works for ukraine, that is, uh, here you need to understand the importance not only in weapons, technology, the importance is also in intelligence, that is, when you promptly identify the enemy’s actions, the enemy’s plan, and the like, that is, when for you all

the enemy’s actions become as transparent as possible, so nato intelligence allows ukraine to understand and see everything, any of our... movements, naturally, although, uh, it’s worth paying tribute to our avdeevka operation, this is the offensive that is now underway, which began on october 10. it started unnoticed for the enemy, this is a huge plus, they were able to simply go into battle as if on wheels , without quartering, without creating any unnecessary movements, okay, daniil, since you are on the agenda, and whatever the topic, on in ukraine, power changed several times as a result of coups and such, yes, good quality political technologies, including legal chaos in makhachkala, which was not... recently, yes, a scheme familiar to every belarusian, this was also provoked with the help of social networks, including , from the territory of ukraine, yes? who, in your opinion, is really

behind this latest attempt to shake up the russian caucasus? well here... everything is obvious in principle, but who stands, initially , if we take, here is the hierarchy of puppets, yes, then initially, of course, the anglo-saxons, who are used as a tool by the ukrainian units of information psychological operations, and teach them how i understand, they supervise, of course, and finance, and the funding there is very large, very large, there are even some documents with estimates in open sources, that’s where, let's say one of the tactical groups of the freelance seventy-second center, that is, this is a separate freelance unit that simply carries out tasks that consist of ten

people, among other things, as logistics support, they have a new land cruiser 200, the requirement of a freelance unit is for 10 man, there must be a land cruizer 200 there, and there are about ten such subdivisions of freelance groups... 10, three more centers there are about the same number, that is, just imagine, based on one estimate, what is there financing is very easy, and of course, since 2015 they have been carrying out information operations of various kinds on the territory of russia, on the territory of belarus, you have no doubt about it, well, in open sources there is already, in principle, yes, belarus, but let’s say, in the belgorod region, in my opinion, they carried out an operation fan in order to discredit law enforcement officers, in different regions they conduct, for example, city quests, like in donetsk, well in

the donbass they carried out a raid operation, like that they are in the regions , most likely in the republic of belarus too, that is, what does this mean, they involve young people, schoolchildren, students, well , maybe some adults who have time, conduct a city quest, uh, some quests, they are related to what you need to do is... to reach the final, to the final point, yes, you arrived at the monument, you found a piece of the map there, they tell you where to go, whoever arrived first won, and then you just complete the task, take a photo of the house there 5, on lenin street, dawn at the stadium, more something like a monument and so on, then i’ll take a photo of the urals, and at the ural car we have only military personnel, but in donetsk, for example, they take a photo there, the place where the shell landed, here in your area there’s also a military... on in their area to show that in fact ukrainian bastards are shelling civilians, not military targets, and the man, the young schoolboy, is such a good task, a game way of getting out, just yes, and then

those who are the most active, who have the most points, speak they are recruiting, plus there is financial reward, they say what to do next, burn it, burn the carcass, but no, i don’t want to burn it, so , look, these are the photos you sent us, you see, the ural is a military machine. and there he is also a military man, you see, a military unit, this is a military facility, you sent us, yes, you have the mgb there, you know, i heard that in the basement there is just terrible torture, yes, and these are other operations of the ukrainian hips , that in the basements there is torture with electricity and so on, public opinion has already been formed, well, partly, and they say, so you or burn the car, they will get money for it, there new points, and we won’t tell anyone about it, but what if you refuse? we'll send you to the basement, now we'll send this mgb of yours with your data, and you'll go to the basement, or you'll just make money, drive the car, no one will get hurt, yes, the young

man thinks, damn it, okay, so what? burn the car there, okay, i’ll burn the cameras, no, well, for example, someone will fall for it, no, the next task will be more, typical technologies, they just work them out well, after all, returning to our friend zelsky, he also became in power thanks to these beautiful peer technologies. in the nineteenth, the image won, yes, yes, which was formed, beautiful, so young, yes, so active, creative, jumping, kissing there with... jumping right with voters, pr technology won, not a person, yes, well, look, new elections in ukraine in 2024, they are possible in principle , how great are the chances of re-election for this rather faded image, i think the chances are small, because for the elections themselves, no, well, the elections themselves are, it’s just simple another news feed.

in my opinion, there is no point in this at all, that is, in my opinion, whether they will or will not, this will not affect anything from the word at all, well, ukrainians are now throwing in information that a poll showed that 81% believe that elections will be held it’s not necessary, it’s impossible in war conditions, but the americans most likely want to hold elections in order to legitimize the further stay of the postulensky and reinforce it, maybe the americans will use the elections - simply and in order to remind zelsky, that you must disobey, and so on, that is, it doesn’t matter here, that the elections will show what the americans need, maybe, for example, a new figure will appear, for example aristvich, yes, or maybe zaluzhny, or maybe budanov, that’s why there is no difference at all, the americans make the decision there, who will have parsley, there will be none at all, even

if there at all... no one will know, i like this answer, really, but look, i ’ll ask a question, maybe , so, excuse me, from the field of esotorics, yes, zelsky’s grandfather, like your grandfather fought in the great patriotic war, so you once noted that there are no atheists in the war, in your opinion, that dedzelensky. will he tell his grandson bandera when they finally meet? yes, in my opinion, he won’t say anything, in my opinion, it seems to me that they will never meet, because grandfather, the soul of zelensky’s grandfather, will not want to meet with him and have anything in common, well, no matter how it sounds, it’s pretentious , but zelsky doesn’t care, zelensky, he chose his own path, this is the path

of power, the path. you think there is no conscience there at all torments, well, what a conscience, there was a joke about conscience, when i exchanged my conscience for plasticine in the fifth grade, as it were, and so on, firstly, uh, those promises that he made during the election campaign, but it’s diametrically opposite to that , what began to happen when he became president, he promised to stop the war, of course, and after his elections, while i even wrote an article in 1919 about how, without even realizing it myself, that in principle...’ i’m not against these processes then generally intensified fighting after the elections, that is, there was an impression that the vsushniki wanted to frame zelsky, that is, to stain him with blood, so that he would not even try to stop the war, that is, initially there was an impression that they began to actively strike in the lpr, dpr , specifically by cluster, that is, by public places

where. losses among the civilian population, but given that zelsky did not react in any way even about this, in principle, what he began to do next, that is, in principle , it became clear that this was his position, that’s what there is that what kind of guy he was before the elections, and what he began to do already as president, well, as we used to say, people with bright faces show themselves in one way or another, our president in 2020 “they don’t give up what they love,” it seems to me , that these words are consonant, the majority of residents of donbass, this is how you saw our events, our events of the twentieth year from donetsk, well, first of all, we compared with yanukovych, that is, when we saw president lukashenko with a machine gun, that’s

when he said, it means listen to my order. that’s it, we understood, it’s simple, we’re all like that at once, and he’s a handsome guy on social networks , that is, we immediately saw the contrast with yanukovych, yanukovych fled, that is, these protest sentiments that were there and so on, that is, he set him up, betrayed a security man, yes, he betrayed everyone, he just ran away because he was afraid that something would happen to him, your president stayed, and moreover, he didn’t just stay, he took up arms and said, i will, as it were, defend here , the interests of your state, your country, the future of your country, personally with arms in hand, with your own with your family, everything is here, it was a contrast, because? of course, because it was important for us, for us we encountered this ourselves, this is what we paid attention to, this was the very thing, and then we were like, well, everything will be fine, i unfortunately have to ask the last thing,

about a philosophical question, an extreme one, yes, i always write an extreme one, my directors correct me, the last one, yes, but you know, what sometimes upsets me about belarusians is the lack of understanding that, despite some shortcomings, the richest country, sanctions from the rulers of the garden of eden, and the west, we have the most important thing, a peaceful, calm life, very good, in fact, here you are a person who has been living in permanent battles for 10 years, even military ones, yes, and even in such conditions. you know how to find good things, well, a wife, for example, yes, one of the most beautiful women of the lugansk militia, right? yes, yes, novorussia, well , well, yes, i, so, these topics, share danilo with belarusians, how to learn to separate

the main from the secondary, and for what, it’s really worth living, well, you always need, of course , to set your priorities correctly, yes, that’s how it is... more precisely, i heard such an interesting example that there is, for example, a liter jar, this is what you fill it with if small things, sand, yes, then some larger things, more important things will not work out, first you need to give priority to tennis balls for pingong, yes, then seeds, then sand, that is, and not vice versa, as it were, that is you need to set priorities correctly, the main priorities are people, more important than people, human relationships and society there is nothing, you, uh, i, when i first arrived, back in april, i saw that people were walking calmly on the street, not running anywhere, not in a hurry, not fussing, there was no tension, no tension was felt, that is just in april i walked around the city a lot, it was interesting to look at the people, it’s not the mood, it

’s the people, despite the fact that you don’t have any resources there, but that’s how it is in russia, there oil, gas from these moments, but you have correctly structured the distribution of what is among people, that is, in your country, to the maximum, people all live in the same conditions, and here it is very important why, because when there is a contrast, the higher the contrast, in the social, in society yes, that is, it’s like the poor and the rich, as if yes, then this is very, it usually ends very badly, it stresses people out more, the fact that there are people here. let's just say that people are most bothered by injustice, that is, our people, and we are like one people, yes, this is injustice, there is a lie and so on, here you have built maximum justice,

yes, let no one there get high like some people there, we have rich people there , there are oligarchs, some kind of commercial businesses, but look at moscow there, there are maybachs, some very expensive cars and so on , here, but but you have precisely built justice in war, you already understand that there is nothing more important than a person, that is, there is some kind of house, a car, well, a shell will arrive, this is not there, here is a person, human qualities and relationships between people, this is the most important thing and what people will tell you, they will tell you sincerely, what a trace you are leave what contribution you make to the common cause, the most important thing is when it comes to patriotism education. the most important thing, many people forget to say that every person should feel like a part of this society, an integral part, this society, it is an integral part of a person, and if this

connection is stimulated by the state, recognized by people, then how can you throw garbage there on the street, right? but how can you be in this society and there be some kind of asocial element and the like, then there are these moments in war that manifest themselves very well, what kind of people are they? i like the word justice, it actually defines a lot, thank you for this conversation, daniel, thank you for inviting us, we will find out the history of production development ; the main specialists were sent to us, that is

, the first chief engineer and the first chief technologist, we already have in the sixties , its own design base was created. and of course, we’ll talk about achievements and work results. over the past 5 years, performance we almost doubled it. today , about a million bottles are produced in a single shift. today, this is the only enterprise in the former soviet union that produces a whole range of vehicles, such as trucks, trailers, and buses. about belarusian organizations and the people who work there in the quality mark project, watch on the belarus 24 tv channel. the heroes of this program chose to live outside the city. it's

something generic. all our great-grandfathers and great-grandfathers they lived with their ladies, falwarkas, they came here from the forest here, here they are more closely related, there is peace and quiet, there they see more opportunities, they use them to the maximum, there was an idea to put on an opera to the music of manyushka, verbom nobel, all and i am starting to see a theater, and here i am this farm, lauki, everything was in the gardens, we opened a farm, rented 150 hectares of land, we will continue to plow and re-land, the task of the leader is to find out why rural life is still better than city life, and to complete several tasks around the house, eight outposts of the birthplace bulb, i need to get it, judging by the sweaty helmet, you might get the impression that yesterday i celebrated some kind of birthday or anniversary, but this is not so, well, there’s a red tractor, why didn’t we

load everything into it, see the project i from a village in which belarus is so rich, there is a whole lot of adzina, i pray for it forever , you yourself see what beautiful meats we have here, and we like this life, why should i change it, we are talented and wise, we are on this we show master classes on the machine, and many come up and say, oh, but we have grandmothers, for rough work, initially, you need two tools, this tool is called a hoof , incredibly well-made histories of your little family, the first mention of perruts 6, early 7 centuries, kilometers 2, 2, maybe three from the village in the forest there is an old town, glyadtse project

palishuki on tv channel belarus 24.