[000:00:00;00] buys from us, bought, at least buys regularly, every year, well, about 100-150 tons of caviar, frozen, yeah, who takes it, there have been no requests for fish yet, but we are ready to consider, consider all options, make more canned food, they say some are really, really cool, very tasty, at least all the locals, when they found out that we were coming to you , they said, here’s a gun, yes, you know, we make canned food from liver, mentai , so the canning industry produced the maximum... 40,000 cans, that’s per day. raw materials are not frozen, these are fresh raw materials, here we have a kind of dirty area , the liver is cleaned, packed, packaged, rolled out, we also have equipment for the production of fish, canned fish, including squid, we roll the liver group,

then add spices , salt and... already buying a jar, and the end result is cooking. kamchatka fishermen produced 1,330,000 tons of aquatic biological resources in 2022. kamchatka accounted for almost a third of the total russian catch, about half of the far eastern salmon catch. still summer, summer is the season of fish caviar, woe. crowds of tourists, this is caviar, tasty, cool, lightly salted, yeah, but most of all, which one is being bought now, you know, when they ask me which caviar is the most delicious, i say, a very correct answer, the one that, the one that i like specifically for you, because some like pork, some like lamb, some can’t stand lamb, that’s all the caviar, it tastes different, some really like coho salmon, well, let’s say, that’s it, well, here

you are. now you will understand that kizhich has his own the taste, it’s different, it’s just different, it’s tart, it may have a little bit of bitterness , and some people like it, and some don’t , that’s all, just like someone eats chicken, someone... then for lamb, i just take everything, but belarusians more often take what? belarusians, in principle, came here in the summer, and in the summer all the caviar is delicious, the share of the fishing industry in the industrial production of kamchatka... is 60%. new jobs are being created, however, there is no longer the same dream of sea romance as before, so no matter where we filmed, we were told to give us workers, qualified, for which belarusians are valued in kamchatka, see below.

here, too, by the way, you can meet bears, surprisingly, well, now they are already cold, they probably came to their den or dug some kind of hole there, just like that, you drive through this tundra, some bear is running there or a bear’s family there and the further we drove, the worse the weather became, we understand where the cliff is only thanks to such sticks on the side of the road, we can say that we were lucky that we followed him, on the one hand, however, also a little and it will become clear, it’s time to say goodbye, to move on, an unjustified risk , and i’m running right into this, right into the geostation itself, and where further from it, look, i’ll turn around so that i don’t get stuck, okay, then already, but wait, if we get lost, give me your phone number, no, no, i ’ll just contact you if something happens in the city

, you never know, we’ll contact you, guide, what are our plans? we are turning around, we will be more sensible, kamchatka is very unpredictable, so he is the most interesting, he is also like that he says the sun may be shining in the city at this time. yes, i don’t see anything at all, to be honest, guys, where is the road? on the peninsula it lasts from november to march, in the north, while in kamchatka there are frosts down to -30, in the south, on average the temperature does not drop below -6. by the way, the roads in kamchatka are sprinkled with black volcanic sand, the snow is removed, including with belarusian equipment, small dimensions, that is, we do not have wide sidewalks everywhere, we are faced with the fact that we cannot clear it everywhere with large equipment, large

loaders, but he showed himself to be excellent, because he... his engine seems to suit him, there are no problems with him with attachments, in the summer we have a bunker brush for cleaning sand, well, now we have received two more. new loader this year, there’s one standing right there, it’s a medium version, between large and small, and where it’s useful, it’s useful here, why, because in the winter, first of all, it starts to sort of slush, yeah, and it requires cleaning with the bucket must have rubber, the belarusian tractor is also yours, this, he’s probably already 13 years old, wow, he’s still running, he’s completely in perfect technical condition. and he works for us besides the fact that he has a brush behind him, yeah, in the autumn he rakes our leaves, that is, he is constantly at work with us, this is a thing, last year we bought a mas dump truck, a four-axle

, he is now at work for garbage removal, why, because we also collect all the garbage, namely , what goes in park areas, on alleys, on sidewalks, we also have him for garbage removal it performed well, it has four axles. well, this loader, which arrived new, we have already run it in, still in film, new, yes, it is absolutely new, it has not worked for us yet, that is, it has already been tested with us. so, we have it all now i went through broaching and lubrication in order to get away from those moments that in winter we simply won’t have time for, because it can snow for 3 days, that is, we also took several attachments for it, well, we also ordered one small loader, amkodor , here he stands there, but he seems to be turning out a little bit bigger than a baby, yeah. well, that’s also where he will be for a month; they are also park areas, that is, more or less, where the sidewalks are wider. elizova is a city 30 km from petropavlovsko-kamchatsky, it is the main

transport hub of kamchatka, the international airport located in its vicinity is the first thing that everyone who arrives on the peninsula sees. elizova ranks second in terms of population after the capital of the region. and there we met not only road equipment, but also belarusian buses. these are your buses, and well done, well done, and we bought new ones, they’ll even be a little more comfortable, warmer, cozier, oh, how good, like, thank you, you’re doing a good job, you’ve come so far to us, we’ve also visited you in minsk, in mogelev. which one was exploited before and that’s why they turned to belarusian, well, before that everything we had was korean, because. it seems like vladivostok korea is getting closer to us, well, it started with the fact that we all worked on korean equipment, then due to all these restrictions, that’s it, we bought the first one in 1977, and well, within 5 years operation, to date it has driven

650,000 km, is that a lot or a little? well, let’s just say that it’s more than 100,000 a year, i think that’s decent, decent, yes decent , today we have five units, that’s... 103, 203, well, the big ones, which are three units 206, 226 , well, these are still completely new, yes, that is, you can look at them, they are still here for the last time, and nothing yet, but i’ll open it now, convenience, of course , in the sense that the buses fully meet all the requirements, even for people with limited mobility, that is everything convenient, ramp, yeah, there is a platform, well, there’s no comparison, of course, but taking into account such geography, relief, like here, they have proven themselves very well, yes, even we were worried about our snowy winters, that there was a lot of snow cover, yes,

well, that is, well, they behave normally, our heavy-duty trucks have proven themselves well, the guide, remember, at the beginning he said that he is still a consumer of belarusian goods, now his company is engaged in the transportation of cement, by the way, dogs at the transport enterprise are precisely because of... in kamchatka in addition to the asphalt surface, that is, there is also there is a lot of off-road, there are visits to all sorts of construction sites, on the way the car covers 700 km off-road in one direction, 700 back, on some trips there, first of all, the criterion was that the car was first of all repairable, in secondly, so that its driver, the operator himself, can fix it on the road and practice has shown that this car, in principle, with a minimum amount of electronics , practically, well, does not break down, yuri has been working with lubricants for 5 years, and this driver is many times

longer, as you maza, reliable, easy to climb them, we go, but what do people in kamchatka know about belarus, what do you know about belarus, it’s a rich republic, now we know what? your president dad is holding up well, holding on, fighting off these foreigners. i know it’s a beautiful country, well, where would we be without these hard workers, belarusians, we found them in the field , the farmers of kamchatka were just preparing feed, the hard worker is a good one, we plowed them, that is, we prepared the fields, now we are preparing feed, feed, using german technology, you can say, why in german, well, because here we have the equipment is german akbek, so, that is,

we prepare the feed in a sleeve. that in a month, that in the spring you can open it, that is , how we lay it, in principle it turns out like this, the cows are very happy, how much milk they give, they give well, well, how many liters? well, on average we get, at the moment, 19 per forage cow, well, great , from snowy valley to snowy valley, relaxation, firstly, it’s beautiful here, for volcanic regions, such thermal sources are the norm, they can be found absolutely everywhere , but you need to keep in mind when the locals call you to swim somewhere or go swimming, they don’t mean the sea or the ocean, it’s these outdoor pools, the temperature reaches 40°, secondly, there are a lot of belarusians here, in general everything

is close, let’s say, we have half our staff are belarusians, so, well, this is also not just like that, as if it all started there with a couple of guys, later a whole large group joined in, everyone really praises our clients, this is a godsend for us, that i noticed that the local population with onions is not added to traniki, traniki with what here? it is customary to serve, the most popular are potato pancakes with grid paving, in general it will be such an extreme now, and potato pancakes on the grill, only in kamchatka is this possible, how did such an idea even arise, to get to kamchatka, to get to kamchatka, it happened completely by accident, by itself in fact, i can’t say that i somehow suffered in belarus or earned little or that i felt bad there, i just somehow probably wanted something new, to try... i came here at the age of 30,

found new friends, found an interesting job in in terms of the contingent, there are very interesting guests here, how often do you manage to go to belarus, visit family and friends, we have vacations twice a year, for about two and a half months, i actually, when i started working in kamchatka, i fell in love with minsk, i i loved him before, but now... times more , when i arrive, i leave the belorussian station, i walk there for several stops with my luggage, on foot, i go and look at the high-rise buildings there, after petropavlovsk, when you show up in minsk, what is this well, well, family, of course, mom, sister, the belarusian forest is very cool, that is, in kamchatka there is no such forest as belarus, the rivers are cool, the lakes are cool, boroslavl lakes, my favorite... place, yeah, well, in general, people are a little different,

people here are more severe than in belarus, shouldn’t i sing a song, how long until it’s ready, five before it’s ready, belarusian food, i can say 100% has no analogues, in terms of naturalness, we have great meat, we have great vegetables, we are a great milk, i think they forgot about us, but they didn’t forget about us. my song they hear thousands of voices, my photo will be sold out, hundreds of hands, a trace in kamchatka, there are really many of us there, some came back during the union, some now, some on duty, and some for new emotions, there is belarusian fraternity, they sing, read poetry, teach

machine language, we are already filming, kamchatka drags us in, so of course we want to go to belarus, we are still here, this is the place of power of belarusians in kamchatka, the region. as long as i live here in kamchatka, i dream about my home, because my own home is completely different, where i ran barefoot, where i was first love, my best friends, of course, it’s great, belarus is indescribable, the last time was in 1919, very, of course, in general, vitaly viktorovich came from bobruisk, i say, vitaly viktorovich, tell me, the road there was bad near the market, now it’s like there, he

says, now the roads are like in europe, i ’ll send you a video, but i don’t have time, what ’s missing in belarusian, you know? on the one hand, it’s very good that we found ours, here’s our kut, such a dear one here, which we ’ve been meeting with siberia, we remember those places we visited, we give songs, we learn something new , we show ours, vitaly kibalov led the community for a long time , he recently passed away, he came from babruisk, belarusians say, he loved belarus so much, he gathered all belarusians around kamchatka, united that today each of them considers it a duty to talk about their family more often, to talk more, to talk more deeply. we would like to appeal to entrepreneurs, uh, to the heads of huge belarusian enterprises, to the government, probably,

maybe, uh, to the deputy corps, uh, to us it is necessary here on kamchatka land to have a belarusian maentok, let a start be made... small, but some kind of recreation center that belarusians could fly to relax, it would be nice to have on kamchatka land, in such beauty, but with belarusian hospitality they will definitely go , when we started working with belarusian tourists, this year belarusian tourists came to us for the first time . honestly, i haven’t met, since we have been working for a long time, but they were the ones who surprised me, these are people with such a big heart, with an open soul, with broad with my eyes, i want to know everything, so they also came to us with their gifts , we usually send guests, we bring them such

welcome kids, where all our gastro souvenirs are kept, and here they come to us with sausage, with lard, with deer, with cucumbers, they even brought their own bread. but this was of course surprising for us, they are very open, they like everything , they are positive, they are very interested, and as for belarus, are the residents of kamchatka ready to go and study belarus as well? i think with pleasure, because i constantly i hear from colleagues that the level, probably, of service, the level of recreation , the level of accessibility that can be obtained in belarus, including from the point of view of medical tourism, i very often hear from residents of kamchatka that they go to belarus specifically in sanatoriums, here probably the level of service in sanatoriums that remains in belarus is difficult to find somewhere here, now, i also hear that many go to carry out some kind of

operations, to improve vision, and to correct vision, and that this is really much more accessible, so the potential ... there is definitely cooperation, kamchatka is said to be the end of the earth, on this edge there is a trace of belarus and new ones are waiting here, ready to study and conquer fraternal belarus. 100 brave guys gathered in our studio, each of them has a question for an adult, we are children, we can be wiser in some ways than adults, i

think and i don’t even doubt at all how to get on television in our time, it’s very easy for you good data, i like the girl, tell me how... to confess to her love without words. the heroes of the program will have to open up to the audience. i met my husband at sports competitions. we have been living with him for 39 years. what did you like about it right away? at first i didn't like it. they fought at school, including me, and in kindergarten, i think they even separated us into corners. the main task is to honestly answer all original, and sometimes awkward questions. politics is a dirty business. sometimes yes, unfortunately, your wife is the president's press secretary, and you are a representative of the television company, which of you is more important at work? or at home, has anyone tried to use it? getting to know you, in order to resolve the issue of cronyism, look at the project 100 questions for adults on the belarus

24 tv channel . when joining the service, our main duty is to perform our work efficiently. to ensure road safety , which will help our citizens live in peace and creation. for work, the purpose of life, the service of cities, the law, you can work somewhere else, but here it is written down in our code, service to the people and the law, so everyone serves us, we don’t have such a concept of work. i believe that the special unit strela is an obvious service, our whole country looks at our service, guests arriving here are first greeted by the strela traffic police, well, our suspicion has always been equipped primarily with all the technical devices, equipment, means of defusing, initially that we have if

it is being developed somewhere, then in the boom we immediately consider all these technical parts, our equipment is at a higher level, in addition to ensuring road safety, we provide practical assistance to others road users and the territorial division of the civil code, we also check how they perform their service, communicate with citizens, and communicate with other... road users, do it so that it is humane, firstly, and secondly, as you wanted i would like them to communicate with you, if you look at an employee of the special subdivision arrow, he is already an example in himself, not only for others, he is for himself, and if he is an example for himself, then for others he will also be an example, initially everyone looks at him, it turns out that if a person an employee initially, he must become a person, and he must be an example only for himself, and... others will look at him within the framework of all concepts, i believe that initially it must be purposefulness, professional education, the psychological

preparation of the employee implies working with all categories of citizens that we have need to be a worthy officer, a worthy person, so that behind his back, when he retires, they will say that he was a worthy person who served, gave all for his homeland, his service to the people. good evening, daniil, good evening, daniil bisonov, defender of donbass, lawyer, graduate of the academy of the ministry of internal affairs in kiev, yes, yes, yes, former investigator, intelligence officer, military instructor,

and ex-first deputy minister, information of the dpr, and was a speaker army from 163, from 16 to 9, speaker of the dpr army, a good addition, daniil, can we say that then you moved straight from the battlefield to the ministerial office, well, not quite like that, that is, it turns out that i arrived in donetsk on april 8 fourteenth years, that is. at the very beginning, i left for slavyansk on april 21, that is, again , the very beginning of the slavic company for the defense of the city, so it turns out that i was in the militia at different levels, the fourteenth year, the beginning of the fifteenth, and then i quit, so it turns out, in 7 months, it turned out to be such an interesting career in war, so... from a simple soldier, i was a squad commander, platoon commander, deputy company commander, but acting commander of a

special purpose company, then deputy commander of internal troops for work with personnel, this is already from november the fourteenth, for 7 months, and then because of the fact that they did not get along with the authorities in character, that is, they asked me, well, because of my friendship at that time, uh, and communication with the rifleman , uh-huh, they told me, choose, or you build a career and break off relations with the rifleman, because he criticizes us all, as it were, or quit, well, i quit, well, and then this is the fifteenth, sixteenth year, i’m like i was just doing something, but without status, uh-huh, so, already in the sixteenth year i was offered to create and to head the press service of the dpr army and become

a speaker, and so we started this process in october of the eighteenth. so, in the end, on november 1, 1916, the press service of the dpr army appeared, until 1919, i was, as it were, an official representative of the dpr army, and then i kind of quit, moved to the post in 1919, in october, i moved to the position of the first deputy minister of information, dpr, and in september of the twenty-second year i volunteered, and now i perform the function of a military man. observer, expert, specialist in the field information-psychological operations and information warfare in general, however, i have not seen a single interview with you in a suit, only camouflage, no, well, there were, there were very rarely, when there was something there, but why is this, this is comfort, this no respect, it’s practically, no, no, no pretentious motives, no

, it’s comfort, you understand what’s the matter when you... uh, have been to war at least once, that is, when you have experience of participating in hostilities, you you become a very practical person, and you understand perfectly well that in any situation something could happen, a war or some kind of catastrophe, an earthquake , a flood, whatever, uh, that is, you were just in our country at war, an alien invasion, as it were, yes, that is, you could find yourself in any situation in a place where you will need to survive in what you are wearing, that’s all, look, even our program will be aired after you leave belarus, for safety reasons, why is zelsky so afraid of you, no, well, thank you, this too loud, well , no, well, i read myself that your opponents are writing,

loud, too loud, but they’re having a moment, firstly, it’s clear that there’s even a case for terrorism, according to me, they’ve opened... that is , they’re there, it’s clear that all the media people, on our part, are for them are a target because they know how to use information, they understand how important information warfare is, information warfare in general , when there is a popular person, a popular person, especially one who, let’s say, participated in hostilities there and so on, they of course want to eliminate eliminate this person as loudly as possible, to demonstrate their successes, which they will have to once again, partly demoralize our society, our military and inspire their military, that is , this is just another peremogaz, which in any case they are trying, okay, but daniel, look, i don’t need to explain , how the security of the country as a whole depends on information security, i know that

one of your principles when pursuing information policy... when you were, yes, first deputy minister, do no harm, so that you put into this concept, but any an informational occasion carries harm and benefit, any, absolutely, for any segment, for our segment, any informational occasion, even at first glance positive, it still has a bit of some negativity, does some harm on the contrary, the benefit should always be several times exceed the harm, that's because... this needs to be assessed, of course, there is no manual that tells about each case, it is very difficult, yes, but you need to understand what will follow, that is, when you publish what -information, you must understand that what will happen next, how it will affect your segment, the enemy’s segment, how the enemy will use this published information, that’s the most important thing, that’s

why sometimes i allow criticism. on my resources, sometimes even on live broadcasts of federal channels there, because at this moment it’s not because i want to hype up criticism, well , again, the popular word is hype, or to show how truthful i am, because at that very moment, in those circumstances, in that information field, this is very important, because when there are excesses in propaganda, we have some problems there. criticism does not increase the coverage of real problems, it reduces social tension, because people, when they know that there are problems, they expect someone to solve them, after all, someone will start talking about them solve problems, the principle is, if a fool knows that he is a fool, he is no longer a fool, and

even more so when he talks about it, so we have a problem, it needs to be solved, then the person is like that, they started talking about it, that means this will be decided, this concerns the military. here and not only in the military community , i think that you and i have the same problems, the principle that journalists try to profess is that if an event happened, you should be the first to say about it, yes, yes, how problematic was it for you? when i was first deputy minister, well, i always tried, i even allowed my telegram channel, even before i started, you can name your telegram channel, if it’s not a secret, but of course, bessonov’s non-official name is a telegram channel. oh i even said about our losses, that is, when, again, before the start of a special military operation, when we had positional battles, that is, probably all our viewers know that we

have been at war in donbass since 2014, it turns out that in one day someone dies, for example nine people and 10 people are injured, well, there was some kind of military clash, but here we have uh... an official source says, let’s say one dead and two wounded, for some reason, and there were moments when i write, yes, guys, heroes, nine people died, k for example, there are 10 wounded and so on, why am i doing this, because the enemy will do it, anyway, he will even show from a quadcopter how it happened, but in 2 days obituaries will appear on the internet, funerals will take place, everything about it and so on y... after 2 days, but with our own hands we simply achieve distrust on the part of our immediate loss of trust, this is an immediate loss before the audience begins to pay attention to the enemy’s resources, look for

information on the enemy’s resources, this should never be allowed, and we had to sometimes take yourself, again, this is not for the sake of some kind of hype or there i am so true, no, because there were moments when it was necessary, take on... let's say, responsibility and publish this information from your name, that it happened like this, as it were, that is, you even understand that for this you, to put it mildly, will get, yes, of course, well, just when you live your work, when you believe in what you are doing, and you simply can’t do it any other way, you think that you are betraying the dead guys and in general, your people, if you don’t do the right thing at this moment, because many people know by the call sign goodwin the great terrible, although as far as i know , initially you wanted to be a golden eagle or a demon , a demon, a demon, a golden eagle, yes, but to be honest, after

the events on the fourteenth in kiev, and not only in kiev, in ukraine, when , due to the cowardice of the authorities, berkut was literally killed in the streets, well, it’s not a very lucky name for fighters, or i’m wrong, well, not exactly, it’s just that berkut is very... .quickly lost authority in our eyes when he started fighting against us, very quickly, back in the days of the slavs, when they stood at checkpoints and entered into military clashes with us, so for me at the moment berkut has generally ceased to be an authority and does not deserve a good memory, now after they, as it were , those who left, those who moved to russia, joined the militia and so on, are simply handsome, and those who knelt in front of the right sector, they... well, they kind of discredited themselves, that’s why yes, about the call, yes, i just somehow intuitively

it worked out, because when i arrived in slavensk, they told me that we don’t have last names here, only call signs, so that the enemy wouldn’t guess, it’s understandable, i think so, so there are demons, no, but i didn’t know about bezler yet, they say, no, no, wait, we already have a demon, so okay, there’s a golden eagle, no, no, there’s a golden eagle too, but what is it, well, think about it until the evening, i’m just leaving the office, it ’s just in my head, well, maybe from childhood i loved the cartoon the wizard of the emerald city, we all loved it, probably, but somehow it just popped into my head, that’s how i go back, i say, and goodwin, oh, goodwin is not busy, being the first, everything, everything, then it happened so that i realized that it was not by chance that it came to my mind, because one way or another, in the militia i was a field a commander of various... whatever rank and i had to be, firstly, and was a company instructor in combat training, i had to be there as a teacher and a political officer and a father, as if yes,

that is, you, how did you have to give brains to a scarecrow there , the lion has courage, but there the woodcutter of the heart, as if to explain, sometimes even had to deceive the fighters for so that they don’t just go crazy, you’re a very young man, you’re not yet 40, well then i was already thirty, yes, now i’m 39, and when some terrible things were happening there, there were shelling and fighting all around, as if we don’t understand what’s happening, you come back from a meeting, build up fighters, well, as far as possible, where we were. and you say, everything’s fine, we’ve burned tanks there now, and you’re just making things up, that’s all, but i myself think, what ’s going on, maybe there’s already an enemy in our rear, no one says anything, the lack of information in war causes more panic than enemy tanks on the battlefield that are coming at you, we had a lot of desserts for going crazy, guys, well, it was really a very war - it’s

a very scary thing, in fact, but 2014 was the turning point for you, you did not agree with the coup d’etat, the new political course, and moved to donbass, but why did the ukrainian investigator of the ministry of internal affairs become a russian, well, let’s say a fighter, first of all, well, first of all , initially i didn't planned to go to war, that is, i am often asked, how did you choose that side, that is, i didn’t choose, i like which side i was on, but it was like that, i just perceived donbass as a springboard for what from this the liberation of ukraine will begin, yes, that is, again we have all these nazis there, then there were such groups as the right sector and the maidan self-defense, they were the most stubborn, there were many more small ones, there was a trident, there was something like a yellow hammer, there are some others there, so i perceived donbass as a springboard, that we are there now protest sentiments began, i understood that i needed... to participate in this

, without understanding that this was a war, that is, i roughly understood that there would be some kind of conflicts, shootings, because then it already happened, then it was already there the right sectors there in kharkov on rymorskaya shot the guys, there and so on, when i came to donbass, i just understood that i had to be part of this, because just liking or disliking on social networks is not an option, although i already tried then having not a small resource... on on his vkontakte page about the situation with berkut, who shot, which snipers, and so on from different angles, that is, i tried to publish what really happened there in kiev on the maidan, but this was not enough at that moment, because well i have 50 subscribers there, okay, well, well, you’re a resident of kiev, roughly speaking, so you come to donetsk, and well, here i am, yes, i’m an employee of the system, i’m an employee of the ministry of internal affairs, i quit back in 2007, i was later awarded. left for civilian

work, as if i had just arrived, i initially i was in contact with a person with stas from donetsk, i just know the name stas, and when i didn’t just come here, it turned out that on april 7 the dpr was proclaimed, someone from the donetsk regional administration appealed to people on social networks that come, we’re about to be navigated, we’re going to be beaten here, there, and so on , come and help. and before that, i was still in dnepropetrovsk and took part in the anti-maidan in the plan there it was necessary to protect the regional prosecutor’s office there to help the local berkut and so on, i’m already kind of in this uh well, i personally participated, that is, i was already in principle on the topic when in donetsk they asked for help, come, we need the more of us there are , the less chance that we will simply be killed or beaten, and on april 8, the very next day i was

, as it were, in donetsk, and yes, i i didn’t know anyone to my friend, i wrote, i said where should i go, he said, well, i have a friend there, come to the sixth floor there, that’s it, well, here i came to the regional administration, it’s all like people, there in wearing masks, everything there was a russian flag and calmly went to the sixth floor he said, that’s all, and a few days later i was already like a person there, who was generally interesting there then, there were a lot of people who periodically closed someone there, security officers to became the minister of defense of the dpr, that is, there, here and there power bloc, something like this, i was in office like this, they went around, there in general the social elevator could be very large in the regional administration at that time, and then i was appointed here by the person who was temporarily acting minister of defense, she says this, you will be senior sixth floor, and then there was the regional administration, it was, i don’t know how to say it correctly, this was all this was the territory of the dpr,

exactly within the framework of this. every floor there is like that, here is ugledar, here there is shakhtersk, here there, slavyansk, as if yes, that is, they wrote, you are already one big building, yes, this is exactly what was like the first state, that’s how much it is you can say, i was part of this, then there was a situation in mariupol, on april 16, i think, when we were invited and asked to ensure security rally in front of the military unit. troops, it was a trap, they just lured us there so that those who were the most, let’s say, passionate, the most active, in order to punish them, as it were, that is, it was already carried out in different regions of ukraine. yes, well, just shoot, that is, such punitive operations , like in odessa on may 2, this is within the framework of this entire global , that is, this is a method of combating protest, that is , demonstrative intimidation, yes, that is, choosing the most active ones, who ready to fight,

it’s easy to lure them liquidate so that others would be discouraged, here we are, it turned out that the military unit wants to surrender according to legend , that is, the military unit is ready to surrender, but they need... to give a reason to make some noise, here we had it somewhere, well, man more than 30, there we were divided into three groups, separated , i was the head of the central group, in front of the central gate, then molotov cocktails appeared there, well, that is , like this, in the end they started shooting us, a wounded man immediately appeared in my group , that is , there were immediately about four dead there, 13 there were up to 13 people wounded, then dead, that is, there was such a serious mess there, and i kind of realized that well, i was lucky, we, as it were, the shooting started there when we removed the gates of the central military unit, and it was already dark, the dark time of day, and the entrance was blocked by cars, and we pushed one car, there was a soldier with the call archie, he climbed into the cab, released the

hand brake, we pushed the military unit, and as soon as there was a gap between here by the car and there - some building appeared, according to us from two sides started shooting, from the left to the right of me... the men died, as if , yes, i couldn’t believe it, i thought, well, this can’t happen, as if, that is, it’s 100%, these are rubber bullets, then i think, well, automatic shooting of a rubber bullet is unlikely, then i started to drag one of them away, we dragged him over the fence, and he still had three holes in his chest, he was already. well, it’s true that you met in the trenches from your side, including from western ukraine from kiev, yes, yes, not all, let’s say, are right-wingers, nazis, no, in there were a lot of people from kiev in slavyansk, including a vandal, this is the call sign vandal

, this is vladimir sovelev's last name, he was 16 years old at the time, he was then in a platoon in the motorola anti-tank platoon, back then, well, like... a desk, i'm like that i didn’t see the name, that is, there was motorola, there was his anti-tank platoon, there was vandal, he was like a medical instructor, that is, a medic in this group, 16 years old, from kiev, here was a man from ivan frankovsk, such a very healthy man, bearded, like would, well, that is, these are those whom you personally knew, these are those who, well, how do i if i came across it, it would be good, well, this foreign speech, what is understandable , they say that there are thousands of mercenaries and there are thousands now fighting from the side of ukraine, and against donetsk and against russia, but how often can foreign speech be used now? to hear, in principle, from the other side, well, we have enough foreigners in different units, a lot, we have a lot of

foreigners from absolutely different countries, there are americans too, well, because it seems that foreigners are fighting for them, yes, there almost the whole world. there is, there is, there is, it’s just that we don’t have a lot of pr, if from african countries, but why not talk about it, i don’t know, are there any legal restrictions, these are volunteers, i’m not ready to answer this question, because well, it’s not for me to decide and i don’t know the reasons why, maybe people themselves don’t want to talk about it, this also happens, it happens, well, i understand that you still can’t tell everything about the situation on the battlefield, well, it’s a secret , if not as much as possible, from open sources, which is in open sources, of course, but look, you can definitely talk about the mood among the civilian

population, including in donetsk, yes, is it possible to get tired of the fight, even for life and a better future, that’s how you feel it? you can get tired of stupidity and injustice, that is, if we are talking about donetsk, makeyevka and other front-line zones, uh, war, regular shelling - this is a very strong, such a stressful factor, but people are ready to endure it for their future, but people are not ready to tolerate injustice on the part of some... officials, there are more people of all this offends, and the shelling, they become a catalyst, as a factor that adds contrast to these e.

that is, they are ready to live under shelling, they want this to be appreciated, and not for officials to treat them as their vodka, or something, this is something worth paying attention to, but in our country, unfortunately, they don’t pay attention to this, that there are regions in crisis in terms of emotional, in terms of social tension, of course, front-line zones, and when an official arrives from other regions and begins to behave like a master, then this is very annoying, well, that is, there should be respect, it must be, it won’t work out any other way, people deserve it, no matter what, people deserve respect, but it’s cool there now, there are roads, everything, that is, just in seyoh, well, that is, in terms of material investments, that’s all, yes, but bureaucracy, when people are forced to get some kind of certificate or something, or when, let’s say, our bankers, i even once

wrote about this on my channel, when i was in office, here the city is being shelled, and coronavirus regulations are still in effect, here in the banking only one person can enter the department, but the rest stand on the street, in the event of a shell arriving, this is just banal stupidity due to bureaucracy, that’s all. now this is no longer the case, it was at the beginning, thank god, so maybe i’ll ask the most hackneyed question, a little boring, but for me, it’s important for me to hear this from you, that’s where and when in your opinion, personally in daniel’s opinion bessonova will end? well, firstly, i believe that as long as the ukrainian state exists, there will be war, and the ukrainian state will exist.

that it, well, of course, it was not built by the west in order to live and prosper , it was built specifically as the tip of a spear that should kill the russian bear, that’s all, this is the role of the ukrainian state, the ukrainian state, as the ukrainian people, in the end, agreed become this spear, the fact that this spear, this tip, it as a tool, as a weapon, will become unusable and may not even achieve this goal, but become unusable, this is obvious, they agreed to this, so for now this is this the weapon will be capable of killing a bear, and there will be danger, there will be attempts, intentions will remain, that’s not why the americans are investing hundreds of billions of dollars there, so that, again, peace will come , everyone will live happily, this has been obvious since the fourteenth year from these cookies... on maidan from the fact that the americans admitted that yes, we invested 5 billion in ukrainian

democracy, yes, that is, a coup, now, in my opinion, the wall street journal wrote about the special services about how the cia supervises the sbu, gur, about that the sbu initially created a department for interaction with the cia, that’s all, but gur is originally the brainchild of the cia, yes, that is, all the operations that gur and the sbu carry out outside. everything is coordinated with the cia, that is, it means terrorist attacks and the cia signs it, many are like, how come the americans admit this, but the americans don’t care, they demonstrate their strength, it’s us who constantly express some deep concerns, talk about what there will be an immediate response, so they expelled our diplomats, we will answer, don’t even doubt that, they expelled the journalists, we will answer and so on, it’s better to remain silent, i

seems. look at what is happening, they seem to understand when it becomes, this is global politics, yes, that is, when there is some country there that is watching what is happening from the outside, the americans from the point of view of strength, and we from the point of view here we are showing weaknesses, and of course, we need to be friends with america, she behaves like this. from the position of the strong, we’ll be friends with them, these people are always incomprehensible , some kind of position, we won’t be friends with them, this is what it looks like, but it’s mine subjective opinion, well, that is, ukraine was initially prepared as a country to be slaughtered, of course, but this is generally the ninety-first year, when the soviet union collapsed, every post-soviet republic around russia was viewed like this, soros funds began to actively move in and the like, you know, i may amuse you a little, even among us the most notorious fugitives, those who fled

from belarus after the twentieth year, they themselves now openly admit that, in principle, belarus should have come out first this role of anti-russia and become a victim, it’s true, precisely due to changing power here and thereby surrendering, as they say, into the hands of, well, okay, let’s talk a little about the issues on the current agenda, not only about history, the exacerbation of the palestinian-israeli conflict, yes, she not only removed the ukrainian agenda from the western press, but forced... to draw analogies, some analogies, thousands of people must die in order to feed the american military industry, for genocide, this is no longer a word from a history textbook, this reality and you do you draw these parallels yourself? well, for me, let’s say, the most important thing in this conflict

is precisely that the israelis showed what war really is and what genocide really is, how... it all looks, and so after that, what are the israelis doing there, talking about russia being the aggressor in ukraine, look, somewhere there, by chance a civilian was killed there by some rocket , that’s what israel is doing now in the gas sector, it’s just at home get along with people, with everyone, and so on, then to say that russia is the aggressor, i think, it will already sound, well, funny, as if absurd. well, this is understood, at least by those who, let’s say, pretended that russia was the aggressor , and, most importantly, our people understand this, because they see this, the most, the most important thing is your segment, that is, your people, this is the work in our segment, this is the most important thing, because we succeed in the same way , that is, the enemy works, within our

segment, very effectively, since we were somehow brought up in the law there. will always win evil, although this is not entirely true, whoever wins is the one who wins and good sometimes happens, yes, well, that’s how it is , the winner writes history, should write, but these are all these moments, and when they say, russia attacked ukraine, and those those who are not in the know don’t understand how it all happened, why it happened, they are like, well, yes, it was attacked , yes, that’s it, i’m against it, i’m against it, and so on, i will help the ukrainians, even though i ’m someone ... now there is a segment on the territory of russia, now there is, even especially according to makarevich there and some of those who escaped, yes, who are there, we are against the aggressor, against the war, we fled to israel, and why are you now against the war there, against the thousands of dead children who died in a few days, and so on, and the main thing is that our

segment sees it now, that is, at least many, those who are even adequate people, are simply due to lack of income. they judge from the surface, so russia sent troops to ukraine, everything is wrong, now at least they will at least think and delve into the prehistory of the recent, and the same war in donbass, so maybe they they will look into this, but the most important thing is that at least we have an argument to counter the fact that guys, look , they laugh at us when we say, we didn’t start fighting, and this is not a war, specialization, and so on, now we can say, look, this is war. look, it’s the gas sector, well, that is, in reality , we haven’t started fighting yet, well, here it is, i gave an example of how we say, yes, that is, on the one hand, this also sounds too propagandistic, because well didn’t start fighting, you weren’t great you see, we don’t have to be ashamed of the fact that we are propagandists, sometimes we say what needs to be said, no, i mean, propaganda