to shell companies for fictitious activities, we are talking about 100 million dollars in recalculation. what makes the scandal especially poignant is the fact that the money disappeared after being sent to the museum of the revolution of dignity, holodomor and the like. over the past 2 weeks, checks have also established facts of the disappearance of hundreds of millions of dollars from the budget of the ukrainian ministry of defense. since the americans link further financing of ukraine with transparency of expenses, there is reason to believe that kiev will not see a new one from washington for a long time. trench for armament. children from mariupol and dokuchaevsk were seen off at the minsk pyron today; about 40 children spent 2 weeks relaxing in the kolos children's center. in addition to health treatments, the children visited the sights of the brest region, visited toy factories, saw how the famous local ice cream is produced and, of course, tried it. it’s very sad to leave, there are a lot of friends left, a lot of memories left there. we had a rest around, it was very beautiful there. we

were fed very well and we all became friends, we we went to the zoo, we went for a swim, well, i liked everything there, a warm memory in their memory forever, this is the second autumn shift, there will be a third, the organizers are trying to cover all regions of our country, mogilev region and grodno are planned. a russian track has become popular on tiktok. foreigners have revived the song "moi". marmalade kati lel. tik-tokers dress up in typical russian clothes and sing along. but ukrainians in the comments are not very happy with this trend. the singer herself promises to release the track in english, to break global trends. now more than 60,000 videos have been published for this single. my colleagues will have more information at 15:00. with this i say goodbye to you. all the best.

hello, we welcome everyone who is with us now, a very rich conversation, today we have an excellent studio lineup, we are waiting for the inclusion of russian intelligence officer andrei bezrukov from moscow. in general, there is a desire to understand events, which means we are on our way. the fire in the middle east is evidence that what we are discussing in this studio is not something distant that does not directly concern us, a special belabiya flight helped those who will not forget these few weeks to return from israel to minsk.

minsk received permission to operate this flight a long time ago, but western sanctions against bielawie were threatening to implement it. diplomats have been working on resolving this issue and the mission has not yet been completed. almost 500 belarusians turned to the embassy for help, looking for an opportunity to return to their homeland. so far, the israeli authorities have given minsk permission for a single-carriage flight, but the parties are actively continuing evacuation orders. well now. first emotions, we live in the city of ashkilon, this city is located 20 km from aza, in the first days we received 5,000 shells every day, a shell hit the house next to us, bombed a store, we spent 30 days under bombing , i really wanted to return home, just a big thank you, yes, to the government of the republic of belarus, right? lukashenko to president

lukashenko alexander gurovich, really, for the profanity of his speech, that well, they helped us out, we’ll visit our native land in about a month and a half, when it happens we’ll fly back to israel, because our children are there, our grandchildren are there, the account of our representative office was unblocked to pay expenses at bengurion airport, we previously looked at the execution time, there are fewer risks - they really were when we landed at bangurion airport, before that we saw a fighter in the sixteenth air force israel, but most importantly, everything is fine, and the flight was prepared and the crew worked hard, everyone coped. so. month, since

the beginning of this acute phase, the most acute phase in the entire history of the conflict, at least now we see from the number of victims that it is precisely this formulation that best corresponds to reality. what did nikolai evgenievich show us this month, what is the main thing we understood about this situation? this month has shown that, again, the world is changing, the environment is changing, people’s consciousness is changing , their awareness of themselves in this world, if literally 2 months ago, most analysts said that a small local war could arise, the usual type there, a week, two and the end . now we see that the reality is completely different, today those mechanisms that for many years made it possible to level out problem in this region, including preventing the widespread use of military force, they worked, in the modern world, this

does not happen, even the leading state in the world, which is the united states, the russian federation. china is not fully capable of influencing the processes that take place in such a small, sufficiently studied region, but this is not an objective process, the fact that an outbreak occurred, artificial, probably only time will tell how it really happened, but in my opinion after all, it was coming to this, because statements by the parties, they were certain , including anti-semitic... buildings in general in the world, they were formed. in addition, the constant expansion of israel in this region and its formation, the failure of the leading states of the world to fulfill their obligations, including the creation of palestine, ultimately led to this

result, because the islamic world is patient, there are certain traditions, but this is big, but still we must fulfill... our obligations, our promises, not only decades have passed, more than one has already grown generation from the moment the decision was made to create a palestinian state, it has not been created, the question is, why is this question, including with the constant support of the united states, israel, the hushing up of any, say, violations, strikes against syria, egypt, on the neighboring ones. neighbors, they must, firstly , be supported by all possible positions, not go beyond the decisions, that is, it turns out, again, it’s not like double, triple standards, and these

international standards can, at the right time, not to be used or to be used in this situation, when the united states has weakened, when ties are international. this internal conflict is used to solve one’s own problems. the current phase netanyahu rejects all us proposals for a ceasefire, investigative journalist seimer hersh reports this, citing his sources, as usual, and we know that his sources are quite reliable, we are seeing massive attacks on the hospital, the gas sector is blocked, divided to the north and south, no internet, mobile connections, that's what's next, what step could be next in that case? from israel’s point of view, the next step is the introduction of troops finally into the territory of palestine and, by that, the palestinian enclave , the destruction of the gas sector as such from the point of view of independence, this

option is possible, but in general israel is not solving this problem, it is solving the problem to ensure our own, so to speak, status quo in this region. today this task and the weakening of his opponents are being solved for him, but in my opinion, today israel is not even the main player in this big process, there are more an important player, the united states of america, which is about to have elections, this is literally by their standards, this is already an election process, everything is collapsing everywhere, ukraine, the card has been played, nothing has worked out and they cannot solve their problems.. .or they realized that they won’t be able to butt heads with russia on this in this region, russia will still bring everything to its logical conclusion, plus there is a rejection of the dollar throughout the world, that is, it turns out that the country’s economy, yes, they managed to do it today to topple europe is practically being dragged by certain

production of their own territory, created quite favorable conditions, but this does not allow to fully revive the united states as a world hegemon, because the main task is this, they have already played this card twice, the first world war, the second world war, they have become everywhere and not that that they have recreated all their tasks, today is attempt number three, and all available forces are involved in this, we’ll talk about this later, georgy petrovich, how do you look at this, you know, it’s hard for me to disagree with nikolai evgenievich in the sense that the assessment he gives is objective, but the question is, look, this conflict has a long history, a millennium, one might say, but when in 1947 the decision was made to create two states, israel and palestine. for some reason, israel was created as a state, they began to support it, it became nuclear, it became nuclear, it

had armed forces and reached the world level, money, but palestine was never able to do this, but it was not given assistance in principle, and i am convinced that in the arab world, the attitude towards this phenomenon will persist for a long time, and the conflict, what is happening now, will not stop, the conflict will not stop, or the conflict will stop, but hostility will remain? enmity and conflict will remain, you know how, it is, well, everything that begins, ends someday, this conflict, sooner or later it will end, this is enmity, it will persist and so on, and there may be new conflicts, education, yuri petrovich, a palestinian state, about which many leaders today say that such a signal is coming from belarus, it is capable of, say, stopping this situation, of course, of course, and an absolutely correct proposal is being made that to return to the period when the decision of the united nations was made to create two

states, they will create palestine , this people will have statehood, what kind of relations will develop there, time will tell, but this is one of those objective promises that can really lead to the start of peace negotiations and so on, i nikolai evgenich is absolutely right when he says that the international situation, look, is anyone considering sol today, maybe by decision of the security council all this is starting? the world is at a breaking point, in this version, of course, it will not exist , in this regard, it is very important to find today an option that would suit those states that exist today on the globe, but for now, for now, the situation is this, ex -prime minister israelad barakak, let's listen, israel only has a few weeks, he says, to complete operation in the gas sector and... relations with the west, public opinion , especially in the united states, regarding israeli attacks on

the enclave, is rapidly changing, and here on the surface there are two conclusions at once, the first, of course, he is right, because on the eve of the elections in usa, everyone will pay attention to public opinion, it is changing rapidly, and secondly, we understand that in modern wars, when we hear that we need to hurry up, this means that, and you military people, you tell me correct me if i'm wrong, this hints at what will happen there will be even more casualties among the civilian population, because fuss will begin, incorrect strikes will begin, when the targets will not be selective, but will simply be poured there, and then we will justify why we hit these places, what do you see in these words of the former prime minister of israel? you know, i will immediately say that the person thinks deeply and clearly understands the events taking place, please note that over the past 3 weeks, diametrically opposed opinions have appeared in the media... the media, if initially the entire west, even the russian

the country, well, in general, that is, the west and east supported israel, in fact it was so , because there was an attack on its territory, there were a large number of casualties, and people, normal people, clearly understood that this had to be stopped, and the first phrase was to stop, to find common ground as quickly as possible, and so on, and there was sympathy for israel, there was corresponding support, so to speak... and political, economic, well, all types of support, but after that, what israel did, it launched a large-scale operation on the territory gas, already the number of victims is like the russians say correctly, it is disproportionate to what is happening, and most importantly, the strikes are not carried out on military targets, you can call it what you want, but when a hospital is blown up, it completely collapses, and there , under the ambulance columns, children are destroyed, and children

there are already more than 3,000 who died there, and these are not the last numbers, but the total number of dead is already more than 10,000 and goes further, and 70% are women and children, that’s the question, who are you fighting with, dear israel, you are a country that experienced genocide, you survivors of the holocaust, as you talk about at every crossroads, so to speak, yes it was, but today you are doing the same thing, palestine, a country that, in general, wanted does not ask for anything, it asks for independence and fights for this independence, but the worst thing is that people... that the country that is israel, which has been supported all these years, which has been promoted on all possible world platforms, is today engaged in the destruction of the population of the gaza strip, using the most modern weapons, which the united states provides, which it produces itself and says

as if, we will not stop this until we solve our problems, the question is, what will happen next? it’s very alarming, by the way, these are the reservations, i would like to give this example, the israeli minister for jerusalem affairs stated that dropping an atomic bomb on the gas sector is one of the possibilities for the development of the conflict. these statements were almost immediately condemned by the authorities and israeli politicians, and elyahu later tried to refute his own words and wrote to social networks that it is clear to any sane person that the remark about the atomic bomb was metaphorical, a metaphor , you must agree, it is reported that this minister ilyahu, who proposed dropping the gas sector and the nuclear bomb, was suspended from participating in the cabinet meetings, but the topic lives on now with your life. another quote, israel's bombing in the gaza strip was equivalent to the power of two nuclear bombs. the former minister of national economy of palestine, bassem huri, stated this on rti.

at the same time, he believes that tel aviv itself will not launch a nuclear attack. may affect and it turns out that the situation is complicated, and that the israeli districts, such a tension concerns this statement, netanyahu literally immediately stopped him, banned him and now does not allow him to attend the meeting , the government, the authors of these words, but the question is this, what is nuclear war, there will be no peace on earth, why look at how many nuclear... states there are in the world, if we are talking about the armed forces, there are slightly fewer of them, but the fact that nuclear power plants exist the fact that most countries have uranus and so on, this will lead to the fact that humanity from this earth will cease to exist on this earth, and from here, no matter what bad thoughts some have in their heads, they will be stopped by the natural desire

to preserve their own life, this is the struggle going on today, therefore... the statements of some politicians who are interested , among other things, in making a profit, excuse me, in every war, some earn money, ordinary people always pay with blood, they are not entirely right, the usual humanity, this is a global society, it cannot continue to live like this, well, let’s remember history again, look, on the eve of the first world war, 59 states collapsed, on the eve of the second world war, about 80. and now there are more than 200 of them recognized, unrecognized, and so on, tell me, what peoples today have the right to a state, but do not, the same palestinians, the same kurds, the same gypsies and so on, and there are many more such peoples, all this will come to the point that a new world order is needed, wherever the un works with its structures, or it’s just now, i

literally, it’s just important not to lose this topic, it is very consistent with what this political, maybe even philosophical narrative of the arab world lives today? so i propose to listen to the opinion that is heard in the arab world, here we read the columnist of the iraqi newspaper south al-iraq, mohammed saber, here is what he writes: russia and china will defeat the united states and form a new world order. according to him, the two strongest powers intend to draw a new map of the world, beijing and moscow themselves distribute roles between players, washington can't resist it. the united states is weakening before our eyes and is no longer able to maintain its leadership status. there are several reasons, he writes, including the incorrect actions of president joe biden in the international arena and decreasing support within the country. america can only pray. this is the opinion from iraq, where, let me remind you, the americans brought democracy. it is clear here that you need to be very careful

in handling such quotes, but it is not unique. that is, she shows. an indicator of such a mood in the arab world, what do you think, nikolai? you know i agree with this analyst, but he is extremely radical in terms of the result, what he conveys is an idea, a fix, let’s call it that, a goal, in general, which the arab world adheres to, probably, probably, already today it is formulated in in the minds of a certain elite of the arab world. and this columnist, he splashes it out on the pages of the newspaper, on the internet, but it sinks into a thought, this thought sinks into the brain. it develops, as you say, lives separately, was this possible 30 years ago, yeah, probably not, that is, reality

is that this is the result, this is the summary, this is what is happening in the world, reality, and today it is clearly said that there is china as the center of power, which does not want to perceive a certain world, there is russia as the center of power, you will notice that there is not a single word about europe, which is not on the political map of this observer, and the united states is viewed as a country or empire that is collapsing. in principle, if you analyze all the processes that are taking place in today’s world, this is how it is there is, but i would like this empire, collapsing under its rubble, not to swallow half the world, at least, and maybe more, but unfortunately, uh, today washington doesn’t fully understand what this can lead to, or rather, maybe so, i

said incorrectly, he understands what this could lead to, but he doesn’t understand how to get out of this situation while maintaining the status quo, here the most terrible decisions can be made, perhaps often ill-considered, but you need to understand the following, he is not washington , connected the states, as a center of power, is not fully capable of controlling the processes that are taking place, including in the middle east , today, it cannot say, that israel itself should not comply, you just talked about this, that is israel is playing its game, the arab world has already realized that the center of power is moving... and today everyone is waiting or striving for something new to be created on the basis of what exists, how

events will develop, this is a terrible statement, i want to use it again there a nuclear bomb in the gas sector, because , look, there are tectonic faults there, a large number of minerals, gas, oil and so on, if an atomic bomb is exploded there, it is not known how it will all end. and what will remain of that israel and that region as a whole? so again, we are talking about the fact that israel, yes, it has nuclear weapons and god forbid it uses them, and if other countries, arab countries, take it and also use such force, what will this lead to? do we need this? absolutely, yes, you know that, because the arab world, it is not alone in the world, there is africa, there is the middle east, there are slavs, there is the same europe. i don’t mean the western one, which today is in satellites of this so-called hegemon, so people who

, excuse me, always, at all times, dreamed of being free, respected, to be taken into account, and so on, they live like this they don’t want it anymore, and you see what’s happening even in the middle east, in african countries, in latin america and so on, the nogemon cannot retreat because he... excuse me for doing this, he still feels bad about it, and the fact that there will be upcoming elections, let’s see how voters in the same united states will react, and how the united states itself will further develop, which appeared out of the blue, leading there and so on, destroying about 30 million indians, how will it all end, the memory of the people has been preserved for centuries, this must be understood when this or that politician makes a decision: of course, he is advised, of course, everything is suggested to him, but he must understand that all this is any good or evil,

it comes back, especially evil, with a vengeance and to answer, the most, most opportune moment is to move on to the ukrainian topic, because many people are talking about the fact that, first of all , ukraine itself, that the fire in the middle east distracts attention from what is happening in ukrainian front, and we see which ones. is happening right now, does this current situation in geopolitics open a window of opportunity for the revival of a peaceful negotiation track? well, to some extent , yes, but we won’t discuss the fact that ukraine itself put itself in this situation, but the fact that people are already tired of the war in ukraine itself, the bulk... the majority, and the fact that the ukrainian elite, the so-called elite, does not yet want to understand this or does not want to, this is another question, but what is happening in

the near in the east, these are... indicators from how they start, use them, and then simply throw them out, that’s why i started talking about the peaceful track, because in ukraine itself they are already talking about this, there’s such a character as aristovich, who has already started about his presidential ambitions, that’s what he started talking about, let’s listen, neither russia can seriously seize large chunks of our territory, nor can we recapture it at the moment, then there is a stationary front, endless and senseless killing of each other without attempts. so to achieve some important results, neither the russian nor the ukrainian people need this, the people are beginning to understand this very well, i think we need to start making peace, enter into peace negotiations, stabilize, very ukrainian, by the way, he’s talking about ukraine, yes, yes, but about the arresting person, of course, you can go through a lot, a lot, tell a lot,

but it is not he who is important, what is important is the position of one of the representatives or they say, but the main thing is, at the very beginning it is said that we are not able to recapture our own territory there, and russia cannot move forward, this is not quite the right message, he is running for president, he can’t say how it is, so you answered immediately why it was said so, because the presidential race has begun, comrade zelensky... the president of the war, in all likelihood, will not forgive him for those mistakes, for what he has done during this time, but god bless him, that's not the point the main thing, the main thing is something else, yes, there is a conversation about peace, but the question is, does russia need peace in such conditions, on these conditions, here we already need to ask the other side, and those tasks that russia declared, they are not yet completed in full,

literally the day before yesterday. again another shelling of donetsk, gorlovka and other regional regions, and here the following happens, and russia even requested a un security council meeting on this issue, why? because people are dying, they don’t pay attention to it, yes, everyone is already looking at the middle east israel and palestine, but here people do not die in smaller numbers, but if you count how many, when about 300-400, 500 people die a day, this is comparable, in a week, these are the same, or even more, losses, than in the area of ​​palestine and gaza, the question immediately arises as to what kind of peace we are talking about, on what conditions, what should happen in the end, and isn’t that same stalemate situation arising again when let us now arrange it the way it was in nagorno-

karabakh, but we can’t return it today... let some issues remain unfinished; we cannot allow a second transnistria. yes, it’s time to talk about measures, yes, we need to work out certain issues, but for now there is fascism and nazism and a constant threat to the russian state, and excuse me, including the belarusian state, because on our southern border the group is located, with the conditions on which it is necessary, briefly, about fascism, we gave a lot of examples, it seems to me that on the ukrainian side no one is even trying to verify this, but let’s say from the current situation, here a short literal example of a photograph of halloween in ukraine, ukrainian children dress up, look, in general there are comments

here, redundancy, recently he seemed to agree that yes, it is necessary to hold presidential elections, guests from washington put the pressure on him, senator graham and his colleagues came there, the day before he suddenly said that it was necessary to cancel and canceled the order to prepare for the presidential elections, he says now is the time for battle, but elections are not yet in time, listen to him, we must understand that now is the time of defense, the time of battle, from which the fate of the state of the people depends, and not the time of the manipulations he hopes for... he was the master of his word, i gave my word, i took my word back, literally in the previous block i said that zelensky is the president of the war, and he clearly understands this, he is not a completely stupid person, he clearly understands that if elections are held, he will be written off as such, and the longer the war lasts. the

longer he will be in power, the more he will have time to solve financial problems, which, after all, he solves there, according to the current legislation, while the martial law regime is in effect, it is... ongoing, elections will not be held, but he will continue to exercise his powers, as long as this martial law continues, it is still necessary to implement the goal that was set back in february last year, starting this special military operation, it is necessary to remove it by convention , he does not need ukraine at all, and even more so those ukrainians who are indigenous, as he calls them, and the territories they have already lost, let them forget, russia - who will clean up should the people? why begins this propaganda of his own, as they say, believe less in these babbles, then the people themselves will decide who

will govern ukraine from the point of view of the interests of the ukrainian people, the people who live on this territory, just like the belarusians did when they elected ours. i’m interested in your opinion, now, yes, that’s how plausible it is, in ukraine itself they are predicting an uprising against zelsky, in a blog on youtube, ex-adviser to former ukrainian president leonid kuchma, oleg soskin, said that ukrainians can rebel against current president vladimir zelsky, due to his inability to effectively govern the country, according to soskin, zelsky has not fulfilled any of his pre-elected promises, he also called on the president to restore civil rights and begin negotiations for a ceasefire. that’s all we just talked to you, soskin concluded, in this speech, that the country is under the control of a stationary gang, which, under the guise of fulfilling western requirements for joining the european union and nato, is actually causing damage to ukraine, that’s almost

what you said is how it is, it will be so, why, because he rules ukraine, of course not, this gang that he heads, they decided on this issue, on ukrainian blood certain... earnings for themselves , how much is his profit and wealth today, where did this kvvschik come from, where? the fact is that it is the people, the population of the country, it’s not just that the assassination attempt on tsarev and oleg was committed, it’s not just that they close the media, ban certain internet channels, and so on, where there is information that there may be an uprising, but it is necessary. who organizes in whose interests this will be organized, if it is aristovich again for his own sake, then the ukrainian people will disappear again, that the wrong figure who can organize something will appear there even now, listen, they said exactly the same thing about zelensky, but how

as soon as it turns out that the people's leader, the people's leader of ukraine, will come, then the issue will be resolved , do you think, it already exists, somewhere in the depths of the ukrainian, somewhere there is, why, because this is a negative... attitude towards the fact that happened, huge losses, human and so on, but from abroad , who fled, who has, of course, they will be different, but the indigenous people who stayed here know what war is, what death is, what need, what is malnutrition, and so on, they will never forgive him for this, within this people one of those leaders will appear who can organize work in the interests of the common months ago, we already said that such a leader will eventually appear and i almost... i'm sure that he already exists, and maybe not even the only one who is capable of solving problems in the interests of the ukrainian people, just like that, but you will pay attention to a lot of information, especially in internet resources,

related to the statements of the military who are on the front line, who are actually waging war and oppose the troops of the russian federation, but even they say that they are given due to the fact that the state is not governed correctly, that money is being made on their blood , and this, in various interpretations, comes from the level of the commander, there is the battalion, from the level of ordinary soldiers, but the last one, let’s say, there is a conversation about a skirmish between the president and the zaluzhny, because the zaluzhnys, no matter what we say, an adequate military man who has a good education understands what is happening around him, and he clearly conveys to his commander, the commander-in-chief, that with these forces and with these resources i have set the tasks is not able to decide in full, and

what he receives in response, he receives nothing in return except promises that you are holding on and you are not fully fulfilling your task correctly, now we have moved on, now we have begun to remove his nearest entourage, entourage, except that they are removing the immediate surroundings, because there is talk that an assassination attempt was being prepared on him , just a few days ago, yes, with gifts, because this is, how can i tell you, a feigned situation, but from this. .. the man’s pretense might no longer exist if everything had worked out, as the special services know how to do, and we have seen from examples of how russian bloggers and opinion leaders are blown up, i would not be surprised if he has already become one of the targets today , which must be removed from the chessboard, clique zelensky is a terrorist clique, and this must also be understood, the people see this , just in continuation, not much time, but we... have other neighbors, yes, in

the west, the baltic states, poland, we see , what position their politicians have taken now, but on the other hand, if you think logically, what is happening now in ukraine with ukraine and its politicians, not to mention what is happening with the people of ukraine, should become such a colossal lesson for our western neighbors, the other day a very interesting our president had a remark in ostrowiec about how... from our neighbors in the west, let’s listen, then we’ll try to understand all this together and draw conclusions, let’s listen, there’s a new leadership in poland, i ’m not delighted there, that donald has come tusk, i have known him for a long time, i immediately said before the elections that he was a pro-european person, and the written peace was more about the american party, but this does not mean that tomorrow the policy in relations with belarus will change there, through closed channels, we are with them we talk and other things, they present... not some conditions

, you let him go, let him go, he broke the law, how can i let him go, for this there must be certain conditions, they also step on my chest with their knee and start squeezing out something, fuck you, we are a sovereign, independent state, we will pursue the policy that is in the interests of our people, that says it all, if they are ready for this, tomorrow we are ready to shake hands with each other anywhere and are ready to cooperate with them, a lot from you. depends a lot depends, maintain normal relations with the lithuanians and poles, there is no need to quarrel with them, we are one people, in fact in this cradle, they are our neighbors, there is no escape, in fact, this, if very simplified, is a recipe for peace in our region, at least at least with our neighbors, yes, but neighbors don’t choose, the head of state is absolutely right when he speaks about this publicly. but the question is, if you look at the history of poland’s relations with the russian empire, with

russia, with the soviet union, a certain period, except when there was the ppr, because they are we always dreamed of coming here, because it’s not just like that, even on the fourth of november, the poles, so to speak, were expelled from moscow at one time , but here’s a historian talking about you, and to put it pragmatically, you started the program by talking about that the world has broken down like this and says, now let’s try to build this world in a new way. here we have poles, lithuanians, latvians, not a single ordinary person in the world wants war , he wants to raise children, he wants to get paid, see the world, but the president has made a very clear mistake now, there are politicians, yes, frostbitten, it’s different now, there are people with whom you need to maintain relationships, no matter how difficult it may be, and we will support them, this is reality, in this reality we don’t live there for 200 to 300 years, we don’t have this historical past in our present day, from this ... and from this grain, how can we grow peace in our region? you know, this recipe

is wonderful, precise, clear and intelligible, most importantly with a deep historical retrospective, you see, i always have great respect for people who are able to do correct conclusions, often, there are examples, there are events, but incorrect conclusions are drawn from them, our president made an exceptional conclusion and broadcasts it not only to our media, he broadcasts it to the whole world, let's live together, this is the first, second, let's find common ground, find mutually beneficial conditions for existence, and the third point, there is no need to set any conditions or ultimams, it is the question of equality. a question of mutual understanding, this is the grain and the

basis on which the future can be built peace, in my opinion, i heard exactly this in the words of our head of state, and the most important thing is that we would like it to reach our closest neighbors that we are making the right historical conclusions, we understand that the people, they are the people, the leadership is power , it’s up to the leadership, they come and go, but the people stay. states - this is a message not only to us, russia and our neighbors, this is a message. around the world, you look, indeed, today a situation has arisen where the absolute majority of states, and not only in europe, not only in asia, not only in africa, they want to live humanly, they want to have respect for themselves as a person on earth, to whom the lord gives one life on earth, that’s what we’re talking about, that’s what

’s happening now, this is one of the moments of transformation of the world order, it will happen. 5, 10 years, how long the historical period will take, it is always quite complex, it is difficult to predict, but the fact that the world will not exist in this version is the message of the state, let’s live together, treating each other humanely, taking into account mutual interests respect friend friend, absolutely accurate and true, thank you very much for participating in our conversation, in this program, i thank our guests, but we don’t say goodbye to the audience, the same thing undermines the world, will it come to... a new world war, if someone or what - is capable of returning humanity to the mainstream of common sense, we continue, such a density of events, such an intensity of passions, in order to really figure it out you need a cold mind and powerful analytical talent, our guest today is a professional with a capital p in this area, with us

one of the most authoritative connections russian-speaking experts, russian intelligence officer, professor mgemu, andrei bezrukov, andrei olegovich, hello, we are very glad to have found the time for our new meeting. i propose to start with the palestinian-israeli confrontation. of course, we follow the news, which is filled with emotions, it is understandable, first the bloody attack by hamas, the taking of hostages, then we see the blockade of the gaza strip, israeli strikes on civilian targets, the use of prohibited shells, and according to the un, 70% of those killed in the gaza strip are women and children. but behind the emotions it is difficult, it is important to recognize what is happening deeply, in particular, why everything happened right now in this way. you know, it’s hard to say here, i can at least name two factors. first, recently there has been such a situation that the agreement between israel and saudi arabia has become a reality. if

this agreement had been signed, the independence of palestine could, i think, be put an end to. and this is exactly what the americans were leading to, and hamas was naturally not happy with this, but that’s why right now, why exactly at this moment, i think that from a military point of view, hamas has become, at least, a fairly independent player, making its own decisions, and naturally, it did not even inform its, so to speak, patrons - from the side... iran and carried it out so that it would be difficult to recognize, preparations for it were difficult to recognize, that it was possible, that is, many experts, and all over the world with one voice , immediately started talking about the fact that israeli intelligence had overslept, and the reason was precisely that no one expected it, no one spoke to agree, this is the reason, yes, because they still said

super special service, super army, i’m interested in your opinion, as a professional in this sense, in the sense, you know, what’s the matter, every super special service from super armies live... normal people, they make mistakes, and the question is not that one of them they are an outstanding professional, there are probably many of them out there, but what about the whole process of collecting information, analyzing it, illuminating it, let’s say, in decision-making circles, correct coverage, then making a decision, taking action. that would have prevented what happened on october 7, this is a single chain, if some element in this chain breaks or does not work, if some element in this chain, and here perhaps a political element played a role, then the whole chain does not work, and no matter how well we talk about

this or that part of this chain, there will be no result, and this is most likely the fact here. note now, when we look at the assessments that sound not only the special cruelty of israel, they themselves call it decisiveness, but also such blatant patronage of the united states, we see the behavior of washington in the security council, israel in general is not hides, and we can understand, that for them this whole story is almost an existential threat, so that’s why they are so decisive, but what does this mean for the states? in many ways, israel's policy determined american...policy in the middle east , to what extent is this true, well, let the scientists sort it out, that is not the question, for the united states, now, and for the democratic party. for a democratic administration, this is really a litmus test of which side you are on, and of course,

when you have to choose, the united states chose israel, but let's mention one more thing, if earlier the united states skillfully maneuvered, on the one hand, the arab world, on the other hand, israel, its allies in europe, then apparently. now those competencies are gone, politics is deteriorating, and under the weak leadership of biden, if you can even call him leadership like that , look at the consolidation of the entire west around israel, and yet the west has very serious interests in the arab world, in the muslim world, entirely, then yes, i just see the degradation of western politics, okay, so we hear loud statements from the arab world, although there are still fewer real steps than statements, maybe for now, but in general, for them the current conflict may become a new point of assembly for

the entire region, it has already become to some extent , the arab world will have nothing else left, because well, the influence of the so-called arab street in such crises is very great on politics, it is also interesting to see how after the events, for example in... chkala, the western media , especially the americans are trying to portray russia as the main anti-sem, this is their kind of distracting maneuver, right? well, it’s just funny, it’s just funny, what kind of anti-semitism, i, i actually don’t see it, but you know, just like in belarus, you can put it on several elements, so to speak, well, which are already lured by the special services, they are already ready for some performances, you know, this is a problem, i would say, more local, these are

problems of the local special services, which should have known people who, well, let's put it this way, ready to come out for any reason, they would have come out for another reason, it’s just a reason , what’s happening now in palestine is a reason for speaking out, it could... be different, you remember, at the beginning of the special military operation, they also tried to set fire to dagestan, and also, in general, people came out, this is a problem with how local intelligence services work, but of course, western propaganda, and people who left russia are actively fighting the regime in russia, naturally, will set fires and further, maybe to close this... andrey olegovich, i want to turn to the facts, they were just well illustrated the other day, while the americans are trying to present the russians as the main anti-semitic people, according to a report

published by the national institute and the government of israel, against the backdrop of the war in the middle east, the number of manifestations of anti-semitism throughout the world has increased by 1880% , by 1180%, while a third of these manifestations were recorded in the united states; major american cities, including new york, became the hotbeds, that is , it seems to me that this is very, very good. concentration of forces of mutual hatred here in region gives rise to the fear that a new world war will come out of the middle east, in your opinion, how likely it will be, you know, in the region, it has been unstable for a long time, it is already burning, well, listen, when we hear for the first time. ..about islamic terrorism, the nineties, that’s right, yes, why, everything is clear, a huge number of unemployed youth, a dysfunctional

economy as a whole, a huge gap between rich and poor, the dominance of western pro-western politicians, the authorities in saudi arabia pursued an absolutely pro-american policy, and naturally, such tension within the region, it... has already led to internal , let’s say, conflicts between countries, and social conflict, you know, this is just a weak link in the world, now, of course, the second weak link can be called now southeast asia, this region around, the yellow sea, uh, the southern chinese sea, which, and of course, what the americans are trying to do now is to use this tension so

that both regions set it on fire, yeah, but the way out is here... the formation of a palestinian states should occupy this conflict so that at least the next generation can live in peace there? you see, whether this will completely stop the conflict of confrontation between the arab world and the islamic world with israel, i don’t know, but now it is quite obvious that without the formation of a normal palestinian state, this conflict simply cannot be extinguished, the topic closer to us, of course, is that we cannot help but pay attention to the fire in the middle east, ukraine is going into the shadows, in the west, in general, this is no longer particularly hidden, in conversation with russian pranksters, the example of italy meloni, we heard the other day, she let it slip, europe is already tired of the conflict in ukraine, an interview with a loser, for whom they are now taking revenge in zelensky’s office, finally , a very eloquent cover with a small figure of zelsky, in capital letters no one,

here for ukrainian confrontation, is this the beginning of the end or. it’s just a lull and we don’t need to make such quick conclusions that we are moving into some new stage here, what do you think? well, i don’t see any calm yet, the conflict continues, the military phase, active military phase, heavy military phase continues, that consolidation in ukraine at the beginning of the conflict, it no longer exists, neither in society nor in power, this is the first thing, from the point of view of western support, as you say, europe is tired, and the united states is tired , because the election cycle begins in the united states, naturally the opposition will always exploit the weaknesses of the ruling group, we see a huge difference in losses, and we see a huge difference in, how can

i tell you this, in the overall strategic potential. and nothing can equalize this difference it’s impossible, even if the west abandons everything that it has left, the conflict will still not turn in the other direction, this is fatigue, it, it turns into what sounds according to the people: will zelsky be merged or not , as long as it looks like mood to drain it, but then the other day he decided not to prepare for the presidential elections, that is... to cancel them, and here the question arises, which, or rather, is not a question, but an assumption that he himself feels that, to put it mildly, a cloud is gathering over him, they will melt him, there is absolutely a clear understanding that the conflict will not end with the victory of the west, and throwing new resources into this conflict, these resources into ukraine will not lead to anything good, this means

that the understanding is growing that the conflict needs to end, and this means that russia will have to russia will not negotiate with the authorities that are now in kiev, this is completely understandable, the west cannot leave this power in kiev, for the simple reason that if this power is left, the results will be tragic for the west of this conflict will fall directly on... that is, the question of who lost, who lost in the conflict will be clear, the west lost, that is, we need a goat whose defeat can be written off, so that the situation fits the following narrative: we did everything that we could, we gave what we could, but here he is incomprehensible,

incompetent. a man named zelsky, this is how he behaved with corruption, with everything else, with wrong decisions regarding the counter-attack, bakhmut, and so on, that it’s obvious that the person is incompetent, well, it’s clear why they lost then, that is i don’t think there is any other opinion now in the west about whether to leave the ecumenical in kiev? or not, how this will be done, this is a completely different question, when we watched makhachkala, and we already talked a little about this topic, first of all, he showed how easy it is to use, in general, any discontent and mobilize the crowd, here are many they say that in the twentieth year in minsk we saw similar technologies, in your opinion they have the same root,

indeed the events in the twentieth year in minsk, now what we saw in the events... well, about the same thing, the same technology, who does it rely on? into two types of element, even three, say, into that opposition. which exists outside the country, which is fed up with money and technology from the west, which organizes this whole thing, and two elements inside, the first are people who actually hate belarus and russia, and are trying to undermine, systematically undermine the situation, the second part - these are people who, well, have no rudder and no sails. who don't understand what they are they do, who can be incited to go out like this, to protest, and this situation exists in any country, and

the only question is how capable the local special services are of seeing these people, identifying them and working with them, this... these provocations will continue, andreyvich, thank you very much for participating in our program, thank you for taking the time. thank you. professor andrei bezrukov, a member of the presidium of the council on foreign defense policy of russia, was in touch with us. well that's all for today, see you in week, happily. i'm egi. history, nature , culture, faith, people, wickedness,

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