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our next issues, see you at 19:00. alexander, what does your biggest dream look like in sculpture? i don’t have any one thought, well, that is, it is multifaceted, that is, it is rather some kind of series, some kind of big message to humanity, yes, well, that is

, some kind of big image. as a child, he dreamed of being like his father, wearing a beard and disappearing all day in the workshop, and his dream came true, today he is famous a sculptor, and his name has already become a brand in the world of artists, today my guest is the sculptor alexander shapo. alexander, hello alexander, the chapeau family dynasty is very widely known in the artistic world, your father is an artist, you and your brothers also connected your lives with creativity, your sons are no exception, that’s how it happened, this is a special upbringing, parts of upbringing, but somehow, by fate, you know, we are all artists, it happened in the family,

well, of course, our father is our main leader, my two brothers, pavel and anton, my sister too she drew beautifully, but she chose a more poetic, linguistic and artistic path, and my wife is also an artist-sculptor, our dog madella is not madi, well, that is, as if all of us are artists, well, as i understand it, there is nothing surprising here, because that from early childhood you were immersed in the atmosphere of creativity, the workshop, you were probably there, well, not that i disappeared, as i tell my children, and people in general at lectures, that after regular school, in the fourth grade, i began to go to art school, that is can you imagine, that is, the moment of art and contact with professional, essentially training, art history , drawing, painting, sculpture, decorative and applied arts,

began for me in the fourth grade. direct education, you see, by the eighth grade i had already graduated from art school, well then , it is clear that i always attended my father’s workshop in parallel - in my free time, and i worked with my father for a long period of time, i am the eldest son in the family and therefore i am very started working early to help his father, and then art school went to enroll in the lyceum of arts, as i understand it, you paved this path and your brothers have already followed in your footsteps, also art school, well , grandfather, yes, not even, you know, how, uh, i graduated, it seemed if only everything was fine, there is one artist in the family, but it so happened that the brothers had their own vision, uh, their own interpretation of the world, even the little ones, i remember them,

we always played and sculpted together. there wasn't a day that we didn't sculpt together, a well-known surname, it in any case leads to comparison, this has never bothered you, well, we are not each other’s competitors , rather... we are comrades-in-arms, colleagues, friends, well, we don’t have, on the contrary, i believe that if the surname sounds, then it sounds for me personally , well, well, when your father exhibits or participates in some projects, how critical is your father in evaluating your work? my father is not, not a person who dominates me and such a super-authority who. came and pointed with his finger, no, well, that is, we are friends, you know, we are colleagues, and he maybe i, even i can make fun of him there and so on, well, that is, even some kind of jokes, yes, and he can do the same, and so, well, that is, he comes to me

when, i even show him work, specifically, because my father taught art history at the art school where i studied, which i talked about earlier, for 25 years, imagine, that is, well, history, art, composition, and his knowledge is fundamental, he is a book lover father, he had 10,000 books in his library, well, on fine arts several thousand, he read all this, the degree of his education is off the charts, so to see him and feel his opinion about this or that work, i can’t help but listen, but hearing another point of view is important for me, i know that you had to leave early at home... years ago you entered the boarding school named after akremchik, from that time your independent life essentially began, you were homesick, well, you kind of know the subtleties, so to speak, yes, well, in fact, the thing

is that it was like that, you know, i was the older brother, well there and mom's helpers you see, let’s let my son go from the city of novopolsk. at that moment we were living, let’s say, i was, well, a teenager, well, like my mother, i remember that i was very upset, but my father was convinced that i needed to continue my professional education, and what moments of life in your parents’ home did you miss most of all, well, my brothers, my dogs, my mother, of course, i’m an expert, well , we always had a cozy home, a big family, i rather missed my family, family means a lot to me, not and it still does, that’s it this experience of growing up quickly, what left an imprint on your life?

i will say that i became independent early, well, it just so happened, and the imprint is simple, that i began to live independently in a big city , in the capital, with all sorts of temptations, and so on, well, that is, and... but i resisted, i found my own, my own so to speak, inside, i found my place, found my life line, and well, off i went, and just as minsk gathers us all, minsk gathers all of belarus, in fact, minsk gathered my family back, because they continued their studies, they all continued. yeah, well, pavel’s brother came, maxim tank, anton came, studied brother in glebova, sister came to study linguistics, but when the children arrived, the mother said, we have a large

family, and my mother said that i wouldn’t live without children, and so it turned out that, well, because i as the eldest came here, and a whole piece of life, so to speak, i love minsk very much, minsk is my fourth homeland, my main one , and what was the most difficult, in this test of independent life, well, my father , of course, always came, well, always, my family always was nearby and my father always came, he even came at certain moments, that is, when he arrives there and says let’s go to moscow , look, they brought chagall, well, that is, we went on the train, well, there were trips before, because... great artists in the pushkin museum in the russian museum and we could go to st. petersburg or to go to moscow and see this, so rather, perhaps, such a moment

, a person by himself is always alone, and if , well, that is, he still has to search for his own path, so to speak, then he still has this moment find your inner core. maybe this is the most difficult thing, well, that is inner core, a formation, when around, uh, after all, a multimillion-dollar city uh allows me... not to sit in the studio, you know, but to leave, and i studied back in the nineties at the academy of arts, so it was like that here, well, times were difficult in fact, well, all sorts of different things happened, but i am grateful to fate that he found the strength in himself , just to sort of self-determinate, from the first year i began to exhibit, participate in exhibitions, and well, actively, actively, actively

participate in creative life. each of the project’s heroes is engaged in important work, the chief custodian of funds is an earthly profession, very responsible, our team is working to collect and preserve materials about the past for the sake of the future, we will introduce you... to people who have found their calling. i am the deputy director of the nalibox republican landscape reserve. conservation of nature is important for all of us, since we all depend on the environment, which gives us food, water, health, and quality of life. we suggest spending one day with specialists to learn all about the intricacies of their work. welcome to our palace, the item comes here for temporary protection, then the question of its acceptance into the museum is permanently decided by the stock-purchasing commission, we

specially turned it upside down with the jaw up, the age of the skull is about 20,000 years, urochishchekova bear traces were visible there, we planned to go there in a group today on an excursion , but what? watch on the belarus 24 tv channel, each program has new heroes, we are bakers by training, we work together at the same enterprise, with a positive attitude. this is higher education, i will learn korean, korean korean language, yes, unpredictable questions, what were the names of the brothers who were raised by a she-wolf according to legend. so, the obligatory version, a chill on the forks, don’t take everything so literally, and unexpected answers to them, maybe it somehow rhymes with dimyan, well, not timyan, but somehow it’s possible, porridge, i don’t know, some kind of which you have to back away, i accept the answer rome,

the correct answer is milan. santa maria delegation, in milan, build a tower, watch in the intellectual show: tower on the tv channel belarus 24. your formation v. the profession took place in the nineties, a very difficult period, when all the foundations were destroyed, landmarks were knocked down, that’s how artists survived then, what did they have to do? in fact, it so happened that at the time of my studies, when i was studying, i didn’t think about anything at all, my parents gave me some , well, i’m grateful to my parents for what they gave - some small penny, some

food nutrition, and this was enough for me to work purposefully, like drawing and sculpture, and i wasn’t distracted by anything, i was there drawing nudes, doing sculpting, it was around the clock, i even had a record that i was drawing and such a purposeful one i was drawing and drawing from 9 am to 90 pm, it was like a record, that is, both personal and... i didn’t get tired of this meeting with customers, where i did a lot of things, i did some kind of private interiors, frescoes, stucco molding , capitals and well, in general, a large volume of fireplaces, then it all went, off we go, well, this like that, this is practical income, well, it’s not

a question of pure creativity, buying pure creativity, it’s more likely that the potential customer said that he was ready to order me, as a professional , something professionally done, rather, some kind of commercial guide appeared, that people could understand, that artists understood that there is an opportunity to even sell your work, well, that is , through a gallery, well, that is, through the place where you exhibit, that is, people could come. see the work right at the exhibition, say that, or call the gallery where you are exhibiting, say that we are ready to purchase this work, that is, the money will come on its own, if you don’t find yourself as a creative person, if you don’t find yourself as a creative person, then , well, as if about money, well, there will be no question, you will, well, artisans there, well, anyone, but not, so to speak, a person, a creator. alexander, how do you feel about the expression that an artist must be

hungry, so does the lack of money have a positive effect on creativity, do you agree with this? you see, i’m a sculptor and my profession is always associated with costs, buying plasticine is money, and molding materials to remove the mold from this plasticine is money, and again, if you order a professional molder who removes it, then it’s like money, but go to the foundry, contact the foundry workers, cast your own work from bronze, this is also, well, money again, well, alas, we have to talk about money, so - the question is, as it were, about hunger, about hunger, well, that is, you know, we understand that all this appeals to artists like vincent vangoga, who sat, hungry, wrote there and so on, but vincent had a brother theo, no one remembers about this, who

provided him with paints, canvases, well, were there moments in your life when you wanted to quit everything and do something... less dependent on customers, on inspiration, let’s say, well, it so happens that my whole life is connected with art, with creativity and i have not acquired any other hobby, well, you see a person in front of you, well, it’s like i have i have time, i’ll go to the workshop, you know? yes, if i have it free minute, i’ll go to the workshop, i’ll go to the workshop not only that i’m standing there all the time sculpting, i’ll even go there to think, in one of the interviews you said that the main pillars of your life are family, creativity

and faith, here’s yours wife, she is also a sculptor, and a hereditary sculptor, how did you meet, we met at the academy of arts, she studied sculpture, you know, well, because only a human sculptor can understand a human sculptor, but well, that’s true, but that is, it can to be some kind of primitive world, you know, a sculptor in belarus, so you know only 100 people , how did you meet, you went into the workshop, no, no, no, the student canteen, in the corridor to the lecture, i saw her, as she walked. on the street a - ksyusha teaches e at bntto, she is an associate professor, and she teaches drawing and sculpture as an architect, well, and at the same time she is engaged in a creative workshop, like the world of tesin, and now we

understand how we are participating together with her, and there is this festival going on architecture is going on in minsk, our works are presented there, mine is hers, at this moment. exhibition from the section sculptures of the belarusian union of artists in vitebsk in the art museum my works and her works are presented well, therefore, well, somehow it goes and moves like this, and how ksenia’s artistic family received it when you first came to meet your future relatives, it so happened that after academy of arts, i had to transport all my belongings somewhere, because in... while i was studying at the academy of arts , a huge amount of work and materials had accumulated over 6 years, ksyusha said and i said, well, she says i need to approach my father, father yuri polikov

the sculptor worked at the plant for nekrasov and well, i came to him and said, well, as if we were not yet scheduled at that moment , well, that is, and i say that i would like some kind of corner with everything there, he was very a good-natured, sweet person, and there weren’t even any questions, he says, well, no problem, bring everything, well, everything, when a large family gathers at the table, which is what you most often talk about, we are glad that we have gathered, rather , well, every meeting, well, what a large family can, has the opportunity get together, yes, joyfully clink glasses there, uh, drink to everyone’s health, well. i think so, well, that is, that we are happy to meet, that we all managed to get together again, our mother raised us in such a way that we

are attracted to each other, and we get together when we are happy about this meeting and, well, rather laugh, remember what jokes, between is there creative competition between you and your wife? no, of course, that well, on the contrary, i help completely, that is, that’s all, this is a resource, if i... have financial support, then i’m just here, but creative support, and creative support yes, well, that is, i will definitely say kind words, well, ksyusha can say, but she is always so critical , well, that’s good, i, well, i like criticism, professionally, you know, rarely professional criticism, as it were, well, as a rule, i like it, if you don’t like it, it’s not a conversation; well, professionally adjust something on the topic somewhere, what to say, what to look at. there in the sketch it was better or , that is, well, some professional things, you have three sons and two older ones also connected

their lives with art, when they chose profession, they consulted with you, i didn’t consult with them, well, the thing is that as a father i wanted to give something that i know how to do well. i know how to sculpt, and i gave the elder ivan to the sculptor to sculpt a mold for the sculpture department, too, if he hadn’t sculpted, if he hadn’t had it in his hands, i didn’t see how he, you know, it’s obvious when a person has there is, well, how to touch plasticine with your hands, you can see that he has a gut, you know, plastic, if he didn’t have this, i probably wouldn’t have done this, well it was his gut, he went to study and sculpted well, studied, but this does not mean that he, well, that is, further after graduation, just

a sculptor is a multifaceted profession, he can move on with his plastic knowledge, he can be there to do design, be there to be a director, and do whatever you want, but then i went - i already entered the academy, i said, i want to go to directing, well ... well, to a documentary film director, he graduated, well as, accordingly, i gave away my middle son too, i don’t think for long sculpture, you know, well, it’s like he’s continuing there now - looking for himself, well, that is , but nevertheless, he still has it, but the younger matvey will continue, the dynasty, matvey is strong, he’s somehow into it, you know

, we also have livshi in our family, yes, this is my father, my brother, and matvey, they have a completely different hemisphere working, imagine, matvey has been given a lot, i hope that he will make up his mind, and dancing, and music, creativity, that is everything, and he sculpted well and drew well, that is, this was not a problem for him. what is belarus like? in the eyes of those who once left her? belarusians have more of this active life position, i really love belarusian nature, i can come to the forest, just stop, stand, look at the sky, admire this beauty. true patriots are ready to share their love for their homeland far beyond its borders; it is impossible not to love everything that is connected with the homeland, so that we carry it,

take it to our own countries, and they would also talk about it there, with our example of serving the homeland of our ancestors, as if showed what is possible this is to do, what needs to be done, historical memory is the strength of the people, peace can be preserved. if you preserve the memory of your roots, of your ancestors, of those who lived on this land, beautiful, clean , clean, clean, belarus, watch the project, a look at belarus, on the belarus 24 tv channel, the secrets of good morning and good mood, the program is good ranitsa belarus, svetlana borovskaya is with you in the studio, men in women's. yes, yes, now you will clearly see that

we are collaborating, once, with organizations, in 2007 year, the first transgenic goats were born, absolutely true, and journalists talked a lot about it, quite a lot of years have passed, where are they, what happened to them, meeting amazing people, and this handsome guy who eats pineapple, that’s you too in bodagascar, it seems they came for grapes, but the blueberries have already shocked me, that is, it’s absolutely true that when you were in mom’s tummy, dad decided to do it, and there’s also a lot of useful and interesting information, today this herd of producing animals is registered in our country as and source of human lactoferin.

good ranitsa belarus. look, good morning belarus with svetlana borovskaya, on the tv channel belarus 24. alexander, probably the most famous work of yours for the people of mensk is the tree of life, at the minsk metro station, railway station, and why exactly such a decision, how did you come up with this idea, metro , tree of life, tree road, yes, there are roads, tree road, i took part in a competition for an idea, made the first sketch, and then moved on. work, there was one proposal, one sketch, one album, one project, then the light changed, the story was inside the content, the second project, but the theme of tree roads crossed from project to project, from project to project, well, somehow it changed, it changed all this time, because the metro is very complex, it’s not an urban environment at the top

, this is an underground environment, there are flows of people, there are even rosewinds , because when the trains... pass, there is a filling , so you know, this is when he installed the tree of roads, that the citizens wrote that it sways, but they didn’t know that it is swinging because the foundation group, it rubberized, because it should have a slight play, it should not stand as if tightly, because then it will rock the environment underneath it, you know, yes, yes, you understand, therefore, this was all created, and i always say, i take you there. excursions, i say that the most inexpensive excursion, where you can see modern architecture, modern sculpture, the synthesis of this, the combination of these two beautiful directions, is in the subway, and for good reason, so to speak, in the twenty-first year, in new york our station received, as you know, the best

public architectural space of the world. in new york received, that is, an independent jury, puts on the minsk station, because they saw this environment, because to imagine that in new york a sculpture would be loaded into the subway, well, you have to be super-millionaires, in the year twenty-two, under under the auspices of unesco an architectural competition was held in moscow, the metro station wins again, the station , another work has been installed in minsk, mine, i love it very much, this... on a military theme, a grieving mother is standing on derzhinsky avenue, this is another work realistic plan, dedicated to the tragic theme that connected us all in my family, so to speak, including war , so, well, that is, i always, when i drive in the brest direction, or back, i

always see it and think , well, i was lucky to meet the architect levin, who offered... me lenid miondalevich, who invited me to participate with him in this project, in the improvement of a mass grave, on derzhinsky avenue, where there was an opportunity to display - some kind of my vision, this is a big topic. alexander, what are you working on now? i still sculpt all sorts of creative things, right now the exhibition is taking place in the arctic circle, in solihard. that, well, can you imagine, in solihard on the arctic circle they offered me to exhibit and i am exhibiting sculpture and graphics there, i saw the tundra, thanks to this , i saw the northern lights, at the same time i’m just participating, as i already said, i’m participating in an exhibition in yamal, in viteksk, in minsk, in

minsk in the union of architects together with take. we have a personal exhibition going on right now, well, at the same time i’m also sculpting some projects that have also been playing for a long time, every project that is done is monumental, it’s not momentary, it’s done... over the years, but is there some kind of creative idea, mm, that you you dream of realizing it, but it doesn’t work out yet, the time is not ripe, when i , as chairman of the sculpture section