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an increasing number of belarusian women are interested in hunting, so a women’s hunting organization may appear in belarus under the ethic of the belarusian society of hunters and fishers. the head of the organization, igor shunevich, spoke in more detail about how the cell will be structured in the program of the president’s conversation. the club will unite not only those women who are already experienced hunters, but also girls who are just starting to join this hobby. by the way, similar clubs. already exists in many european hunting associations. women's hunting after all - despite the fact that it is always men who organize it, but women's hunting is specific in a sense, to a greater extent it seems to me that this will be a club of interests and there will be not only hunting there. i think that this is hunting cuisine, this is hunting fashion, even for weapons, this time spent together, relaxation, and most importantly, this will certainly give us men
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a lot of useful and good things, starting from the fact that women will be more loyal, probably, after all, to our hobby, to our occupation. more than thirty district centers now available in the my city application, this is a special program in which the main organizations are digitized to help residents of settlements and businesses. in the application , you can, for example, sign up for services online or reserve goods, check the opening hours of a bank, post office, pharmacy, coffee shop and get directions. a route to them, and you can also create a cultural navigator for the sights and events of a particular city, the my city project started 2 years ago, belarusian cities are gradually connecting to the smart platform, which improves comfort and quality of life, this initiative is part of the state program for digital development of belarus. this application , let's say, is about everything and for everyone, i would also like to say that using this application is not difficult, it is simple, yet informative, and there is an industrial enterprise here. they can already
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advertise their products, their services and goods, which is extremely important for the region and well for our guests too, more than 6,000 requests have already been received for the necessary information. leaf fall is preparing for the ceremony opening, the film forum starts this friday, on the eve of the big marathon, the organizers, as well as the festival management , held a press conference at which they announced the film as the “opening ceremony.” we start with the film debut of the director of the youth studio kino smolka at belarusfilm, kiril khaletsky. he filmed the story of a young man who dreams of making a real movie. non-competition screenings are planned as part of the festival; in addition, the capital will host days of national cinema of russia, kazakhstan, syria and pakistan. leaf fall will cover the whole country, about eighty points on the map of belarus to join the film forum. the specificity of the name and theme of the film is the filmmakers. we create the future based on our slogan. this still speaks about our, let’s say, future generation, about, let’s say, those people.
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who will live after us , perhaps, of course, especially since there is still a moment of youth’s gaze, and i would like, to be honest, to somehow get away a little from such heavy monumental forms, especially at the beginning, after all, the beginning of the festival is a holiday , this is the beginning of a lot of work, but this is a holiday. walls the art gallery of the university of culture was decorated with living exhibits from physalis ratanga, linden trees made of lacquer, an exhibition of germination , a joint project of florist yulia antukh, as well as a sculptor... by metalluya goluza, he presented abstract figures made of bronze in the exhibition, yulia antukh, a participant in floristic competitions and thematic projects, and sergei gluza is the author of sculptures in many cities of belarus, including minsk, vitebsk and verkhnedvinsk.
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hello, welcome to everyone who is with us now, a very rich conversation today we have an excellent studio lineup coming up, we are waiting for the inclusion of russian intelligence officer andrei bezrukov from moscow. in general, there is a desire to understand the events, which means we are on our way, a fire in the middle east, this is evidence that we are discussing in this studio not something distant, it does not directly concern us, a special belabia flight helped us return from israel to minsk for those who will not forget these few weeks for a long time, 117 citizens of belarus. minsk received permission to operate this flight a long time ago, but western sanctions against it prevented it from being carried out. bilania. diplomats have been working on resolving this issue and the mission has not yet been completed. almost 500 belarusians turned to the embassy for help, looking for an opportunity to return to their homeland. so far, the israeli authorities have given minsk
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permission for one humanitarian flight, but the parties are actively continuing evacuation orders, well, now the first emotions. we live in the city of ashkilon, this city. is located 20 km from aza, in the first days we received 500 shells every day, a shell hit the house next to us, bombed a store, we spent 30 days under bombing,
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i really wanted to return home, just a big thank you, yes, to the government of the republic of belarus, there were no risks, they really were , when we landed at bangurion airport, before that we saw an israeli air force f-16 fighter, but the most important thing is that everything is fine, and the flight there was a prepared, reinforced crew, and they all coped. so, a month, first with this spicy one. what did nikolai evgenievich show us this month, what is the main thing we understood about this situation? this month has shown that, again
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, the world is changing, the environment is changing, people's consciousness, awareness of themselves in this world, if literally 2 months ago the majority. talked about the fact that a small local war could break out, of the usual type, for a week or two, and of course. now we see that the reality is completely different, today those mechanisms that for many years made it possible to level out the problem in this region, including preventing the large-scale use of military force, they worked, but... in the modern world this does not happen, even the leading state of the world, which are the united states, the russian federation, china is not fully capable of influencing the processes that take place in such a small , sufficiently studied region, but this is not
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an objective process; the fact that an outbreak occurred, artificial, probably only time will tell what really happened. but in my opinion, it was still heading towards this, because the statements of the parties, they were certain , including anti-semitic sentiments in general in the world, they were formed, in addition, here is the constant expansion of israel in this region and its formation, the failure of the leading states of the world obligations, including the creation of palestine, ultimately led to this result, because the islamic world: it is patient, there are certain traditions, but this is big, but you still need to fulfill your obligations and promises. not only have decades passed, more than one generation has already grown up since the moment
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the decision was made to create a palestinian state, it has not been created. the question is why? and this is the question, including the constant support of the united states and israel. hushing up any, say, violations, but striking for syria, for egypt, for neighboring states, for jordan, for any states, that is, israel can do everything, neighbors, they must, firstly, support all possible positions, not go beyond the limits of decisions, that is , it turns out, again not the fact that double and triple standards, and these standards are international... level at the right time, may not be used or used in a given situation, when the united states has weakened, when international ties and counterbalances have been practically destroyed, this internal conflict is used to solve one’s own problems.
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current phase netanyahu is rejecting all us proposals for a ceasefire, investigative journalist seimer hersh reports, citing his sources as usual, and we know his sources are quite reliable. and we are seeing massive attacks on hospitals, the gas sector is blocked , divided into north and south, there is no internet, mobile communications, that’s what’s next, what could be the next step in this case? the gas sector as such from the point of view of independence, this option is possible, but in general israel is not solving this problem, it solves the problem of ensuring his own, so to speak, status quo in this region, today this problem is being solved for him, his opponents, but in my opinion, today israel is not even the main player in this big
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process, there is a more important player here, the united states the states of america, which are about to have elections, this is literally by their standards , this is already an election process , everything is collapsing everywhere, ukraine, the card was played out, nothing worked out and they were unable to solve their problems, they realized that they are there with russia butt heads on this. in this region they will not be able to, russia will still bring everything to its logical conclusion, plus there is a refusal of the dollar throughout the world, that is, it turns out that the country’s economy, yes, they managed to topple europe today, practically, they are dragging certain production of their own territory, they have created quite favorable conditions, but this does not allow us to fully revive the united states as a world hegemon, because the main task is this: the first world war, the second world war, they became everywhere and not only were they recreated, they
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solved all their problems, today is attempt number three, and all available forces are involved in this, we’ll talk about this later, georgy petrovich, how do you look at this, you know, it’s hard for me to disagree with nikolai evgenvich in the sense that this is the assessment that he gives, she gives objectively, but the question is, look, this is a conflict, right? palestine, for some reason israel was created as a state, they began to support it, it became nuclear, it became nuclear, it had armed forces and reached the world level, money, and palestine she was never able to do this, but she received no help in principle, and i am convinced that... the world’s attitude towards this phenomenon will continue for a long time, and the conflict, what
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is happening now, will not stop, then there is a conflict that will not stop, or the conflict will stop, but enmity will remain, enmity will remain, and the conflict, you know how, it is , well, everything that begins, ends someday, this conflict, sooner or later it will end, this is enmity, it will persist, so on and there may be new conflicts, education, palestinian state, which many leaders do not talk about, such a signal comes from belarus , it is capable of, say, stopping this situation, of course, of course, and an absolutely correct proposal is being made that we return to the period when the decision of the united nations organization was made nations about the creation of two states, they will create palestine , this people will have statehood, what kind of relations will develop, time will tell there, but this is one of those objective promises that can really lead to the start of peace negotiations and so on. i’m absolutely right, nikolai evgenich says that in the international situation, look, someone
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is considered solon today, maybe by decision of the security council, all this is starting, maybe other international structures are working and so on, the world is at a breaking point, in this version, of course, it will not exist, in this regard , it is very important to find today an option that would suit those states that exist today on the globe, but for now, for now, is this the situation? ex-prime minister israel hood barak, let 's listen, israel has only a few weeks, he says, to complete the operation in the gas sector and not spoil relations with the west. public opinion, especially in the united states, regarding israeli strikes on the enclave is changing rapidly. and here on the surface there are two conclusions at once. the first, of course, he is right, because on the eve of the elections in the united states, everyone will pay attention to public opinion, it is rapidly changing. and secondly, we understand that over time. hurry up, this indicates that, and you people, when we hear that we need the military, correct me if i’m wrong,
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this hints that there will be even more casualties among the civilian population, because fuss will begin, incorrect strikes, when the targets will not be selective, but will simply be poured there, and then we will justify why they were sent to these places, what do you see in these words of the former prime minister of israel, you know, i will immediately say that the person thinks deeply and clearly understands , ongoing event, please note, for the last 3 weeks, diametrically opposed opinions appeared in the media, if initially the entire west, even the russian country, well, in general, that is, the west and east supported israel, in fact it was so, because there was an attack on its territory, there were a large number of casualties, and people, normal people, clearly understood that this had to be stopped, and the first phrase was, stop, find common ground as quickly as possible , and so on, and there was sympathy for israel, there was
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corresponding, so to speak, support political, economic, well, all kinds. but after this, what israel did, it launched a large-scale operation in the territory of gaza, the number of victims, as the russians correctly say, is not proportional to what is happening, and most importantly, because the strikes are not carried out on military targets, you can call it what you want, but when the hospital is blown up, it completely collapses, and there, under the ambulance columns, yes, the ambulance columns destroy children, and there are already... 3,000 children who died there, and these are not the last numbers, but the total number of deaths already more than 10,000 and going further, 70% are women and children, that’s the question, who are you fighting with, dear israel, you are a country that survived genocide, you are survivors of the holocaust, which you talk about at every crossroads, so to speak, yes it happened, but
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today you are doing the same thing on the territory of palestine, a country that, in general ... wanted nothing, it asks for independence and fights for this independence, and the worst thing is that people see that the country that is israel , which has been supported all the years, which has been promoted to everyone possible global platforms, today it is engaged in the destruction of the population of the gas sector, using the most modern weapons provided by the united states, “we will not stop this until we solve our problems, the question is: what will happen next? very alarming, by the way, these are the reservations , i would like to give this example, the israeli minister for jerusalem affairs iliyahu said that dropping an atomic bomb on the gas sector is one of the possibilities for the development
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of a conflict. these statements are practically the authorities, israeli politicians and ilyahu immediately condemned it. then tried to refute his own words, wrote on social networks that it is clear to any sane person that the remark about the atomic bomb was metaphorical, a so-so metaphor, you see, it is reported that this minister ilyahu, who proposed dropping a nuclear bomb on the gas sector, his were suspended from participation in cabin meetings, but the topic now lives its own life, another quote: israeli bombing in the gas sector with the equivalent power of two nuclear bombs, about this on air arti... said the ex-minister of national economy of palestine bassem huri, while he believes that tel aviv itself will not undergo a nuclear attack, radiation can also affect the israeli region, this is how tense it turns out, the situation is complicated, and as for this statement, netanyahu literally immediately stopped him, forbade
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him and now does not allow him to attend a government meeting, the authors of these words, but the question is this, what is a nuclear war? there will be no peace on the globe, why? look how many nuclear states there are in the world if we we are talking about the armed forces, there are a little less of them, and the fact that nuclear power plants are taking place, and the fact that most countries have uranium and so on, this will lead to the fact that humanity from this earth will cease to exist on this earth, and hence, no matter what bad thoughts some have... therefore, the statements of some politicians who are interested, among other things, in making a profit, excuse me, in every war some people make money, ordinary people always pay with blood, they are not entirely right,
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ordinary humanity, this is world society, it can’t live like this any longer, well, let’s remember history again, look, on the eve of the first world war, 59 states, on the eve of the second world war, there were about 76, about eighty, and now there are more than 200 of them, recognized, unrecognized and so on, tell me, but what peoples today have the right to states, but do not, the same palestinians, the same kurds, the same gypsies and so on, and there are many more such peoples, all this will come to the point that a new world order is needed, where either the un works.. i’m literally just important not to lose this topic, it’s very consistent with what this political even... maybe a philosophical narrative of the arab world lives today, so i propose to listen to the opinion that is heard in the arab world, here we read the columnist of the iraqi newspaper south al-iraq, muhammad saber, here is what he writes:
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russia and china will defeat the united states and form a new world order. according to him, the two strongest powers intend to draw a new map of the world. beijing and moscow themselves distribute roles between the players. washington cannot resist this, the us is weakening eyes no longer able to maintain status. leader, there are several reasons, he writes, and the wrong actions of president joe biden in the international arena, declining support within the country, america can only pray, this is the opinion from iraq, where let me remind you that the americans did not take democracy, here it is clear that you need to very carefully address such quotes, but it is not isolated, that is , it shows an indicator of such a mood in the arab world, what do you think? you know, i agree with this analyst, but he is extremely radical in terms of the result, that’s what
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what he is broadcasting is an idea, a fix, let’s call it that, a goal, in general , that the arab world adheres to, probably, probably, today it has already been formulated in the minds of a certain elite of the arab world, this columnist, he splashes it out on the pages newspapers, there is the internet, but it gets into the thought, this thought gets into the brain, it develops, as you say, it lives separately, was this possible 30 years ago, huh, probably not, that is, the reality is that this summary, this summary, this is what happens in world, reality, and today, what is said is that there is china as a center of power that does not want to perceive a certain world, there is russia as a center of power, but you will note that there is not a single word about europe,
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which is not on the political map this observer, and the united states is considered as a country or an empire that is collapsing, in principle, if you analyze all the processes that are taking place in the world today, this is so, but i would like this collapsing empire not to be under its rubble swallowed up half the world at least, and maybe more, but unfortunately, washington today does not fully understand what this can lead to, or rather, maybe so, i said it wrong, he understands what this can lead to, but how to get out from this situation, maintaining the status quo, he does not understand, the most terrible decisions can be made here, perhaps often ill-considered, but it is necessary to understand
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the following, he is not washington, the united states, as a center of power, is not completely capable of controlling those processes that are happening, including in the middle east today, he cannot tell the same israel to stand, so that it does not do what they said about it, that is, israel is playing its game, the arab world has already realized that the center of power is moving, and today everything they are waiting or striving for something new to be created on the basis of what exists, how events will develop, this is a terrible statement, i again want to use a nuclear bomb in the gas sector, because look there. there are faults, a large amount of fossils, gas, oil, and so on, if there explode an atomic bomb, it is unknown how it will all end, and what will remain of that
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israel and that region as a whole, so again we are talking about the fact that israel, yes, it has nuclear weapons, and god forbid it uses them, and if other countries, arab countries, take it and also use such force , what will this lead to, we need it, absolutely yes, you know that the arab world... it is not alone in the world, there is africa, there is the middle east, there is slavs, there is even europe, i don’t mean the western one that is in today this so-called hegemon walks in the satellites, so people who, excuse me, have always at all times dreamed of being free, respected, to be taken into account, and so on, they no longer want to live like this. and you see what is happening even in the middle east, in african countries, in latin america, and so on, the nogemon cannot retreat, what he managed to do, excuse me, will still poke him. and
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the fact that there will be upcoming elections, let's see how voters in the united states will react, and what will happen next develop the united states itself, which appeared out of the blue, bringing there and so on, destroying about 30 million indians, how will all this end, the memory of the people has been preserved for centuries, this must be understood when this or that politician makes a decision, of course, he he advises, of course, everything is suggested to him. but he must understand that all this, any, good or evil, it comes back, especially evil, double, and to answer, the most, most appropriate moment, move on to the ukrainian topic, because many people talk about it, first of all in ukraine itself, that the fire in the middle east distracts attention from what is happening on the ukrainian front, and we see what contradictions within, well, let’s call it,
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the ukrainian establishment, are emerging right now, this current situation in geopolitics opens a window of opportunity for the revival of a peaceful negotiation track? well, to some extent, yes, but we won’t discuss the fact that ukraine itself put itself in this situation, but the fact that people are already tired of the war in ukraine itself, the bulk of the majority, and the fact that the ukrainian so-called elite does not want to understand this or does not want to understand this is another question, but what is happening in the middle east is one indicator of how they start, use it, and then simply throw it away, i why did he talk about a peaceful track, because in ukraine itself they are already talking about this, such a character as aristovich, who has already announced his presidential ambitions, that’s what he was talking about, let’s listen, russia
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cannot seriously seize the big ones. our territory neither we can recapture at present moment, then a stationary front, endless and senseless killing of each other without attempts to achieve any important results, neither the russian people nor the ukrainian people need this, the people are beginning to understand this very well, i think we need to start making peace, reaching out to peaceful negotiations, stabilize, very ukrainian, speaks, by the way, about ukraine, yes, yes, but about arresting... of course, you can go through a lot, a lot, talk a lot, but he is not important, the position of one of the representatives or heralds of the ukrainian elite is important, the word appeared negotiations, the word appeared to put up, but the main thing, at the very beginning it was said, we are not able to recapture our own territory there, and russia cannot move forward, this is not quite the right message, well, he
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is running for president, he cannot say how it is . here you are, you answered immediately why it was said that way? because the presidential race has begun, comrade zelensky, uh, the president of the war, in all likelihood, he will not be forgiven for the mistakes he made during this time, but god bless him, this is not the most important thing, the main thing is something else, yes, there was talk about peace, but the question is, does russia need peace in such conditions, on these conditions? here we already need to ask the other side, and those tasks that russia declared, they have not yet been completed in full, literally the day before yesterday there was another shelling of donetsk, gorlovka and other areas of the donetsk region, and here the following turns out and russia even requested a un meeting on this question of the security council, why because people are dying, they don’t pay attention to it, and everyone is already
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looking at the middle east with palestine, but here people do not die in smaller numbers, but if you count how many, when about 300, 400, 500 people die per day, this is comparable, in a week, these are the same, or even more losses, than in the area of ​​palestine and gases, so the question immediately arises: what kind of world are we talking about, under what conditions, what should happen in the end? isn’t that same stalemate situation arising again, when let’s arrange it now as it was in nagorno-karabakh, and return to the war a little later, we can’t allow it today some issues are unfinished, a second transnistria cannot be allowed, yes, it’s time to talk about measures, yes, certain issues need to be worked out, but as long as there is fascism and nazism and a constant threat...
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to the russian state, and excuse me, including the belarusian state, after all, there is a group on our southern border, they threaten us at any moment, all connections have been cut, let’s probably... first , let’s complete certain nuances and deal with the conditions under which it is necessary, briefly, about fascism, there are a lot of examples we cited, it seems to me that on the ukrainian side no one is even trying to refute this, but let’s say from the current situation, here is a short, literal example, a photograph of halloween in ukraine, ukrainian children dress up, look, in general, the comments here are unnecessary, zelsky, completely recently i kind of agreed that it was necessary. to hold presidential elections, guests from washington put the pressure on him, senator graham and his colleagues came there, the day before he suddenly took it and said that it must be cancelled, and canceled the order to prepare for the presidential elections, now the time says
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battles, and elections are not in time, let’s listen to him, we must understand that now is the time of defense, the time of battle on which the fate of the state of the people depends, and not the time of manipulation that russia hopes for from ukraine, i believe that now... not the right time for elections, you know, there is an expression, he was the master of his word , i gave my word, i took my word back, literally in the previous block i said that zelsky is the president of the war, and he is clear about this understands that he is not a completely stupid person, he clearly understands that if elections are held, he will be written off as such, and the longer the war lasts, the longer he will be in power, the more he will have time to solve financial problems, which, indeed, according to the current legislation, while the martial law regime is in progress , it continues in ukraine, elections will not be held, but he will continue to exercise his powers, as long as this
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martial law continues, we still need to implement the goal that was set back in february last year, starting this special military operation, this clown needs to be removed, he doesn’t need ukraine at all, and even more so those who are indigenous, as he calls them, and the territories they have already lost, let them forget, russia - who the people should choose, so for the elections, only if there are elections, why is arestovich starting this campaign and propaganda of his , as they say, believe less in these babbles, then the people themselves will decide who will govern ukraine from the point of view of the interests of the ukrainian people, the people who live on this territory, this is how the belarusians did it, electing ours, here is georgy petrovich, i’m interested in your opinion, now, yes, that’s how plausible it is, in ukraine itself they are predicting an uprising against zelensky,
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here in a blog on youtube, ex-adviser to the former ukrainian president leonid kuchma, oleg soskin said that ukrainians could rebel against the current president vladimir zelsky, due to his inability to effectively govern the country, according to soskin, zelsky did not fulfill any of his pre-selected promises, he also called on the president restore civil rights to begin negotiations for a ceasefire, that’s all we’ve just talked about, soskkin concluded in this speech that the country is under the control of a stationary gang, which, under the guise of fulfilling western demands for joining the european union and nato, is actually causing damage to ukraine, that’s almost what you said, so it is , it will be so, why, because he rules... there is no ukraine, of course, this gang that he leads, they decided on this issue, on ukrainian blood certain earnings
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imagine how much his profit and wealth is today, where did this kvn player come from, where did it come from, the fact is that it’s the people, the population of the country, it’s not just that the attempt on tsarev, oleg, was committed, it’s not just that they’re closing mass media. and so on, where there is information that there may be an uprising, but it needs to be, who will organize it, in whose interests it will be organized, if it is aristovich again for his own sake, then the ukrainian people will disappear again, that this is not the figure who can do that -organize will appear now, they talked about zelensky in exactly the same way, but as soon as the people's leader, the people's... leader of ukraine comes, then the question will be resolved, do you think it already exists, somewhere in the depths of the ukrainian somewhere there is, why, because this a negative attitude towards what has happened, huge losses, human and so on, but from abroad, who fled, who
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have, of course, they will be different, but the indigenous people who stayed here know what war is, what is death, what is need, what is malnutrition and so on, they will never forgive him for this, within this people, one of the few months ago we already said that such a leader will eventually appear, and i am almost sure that he already exists, and there may not even be one. who is able to solve problems - in the interests of the ukrainian people, exactly that way, but you will pay attention to a lot of information, especially in internet resources, related to the statements of the military who are on the front line, who are actually waging war and oppose the troops of the russian federation, but even they uh say that they are betrayed, that the state is being mismanaged
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, that money is being made on their blood, and this, in various interpretations, comes from the level of the commander, there is the battalion, from the level of ordinary soldiers, but the last thing, let’s say, there is a conversation about skirmishes between the president and the zaluzhny, because the zaluzhnys, no matter what we say, an adequate military man who has a good education understands what is happening around him and he clearly conveys to his commander-in-chief that with these forces, with these resources, i will solve the assigned tasks in is not fully capable, and what he receives in return, he receives nothing in return except a promise that he is holding on, and you are not fully fulfilling your task correctly, now we have gone further, now we have begun to remove his immediate circle, in addition to the fact that they are removing the closest
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surroundings, because there is a conversation that an assassination attempt was being prepared on him, with gifts, because this is as much as i can tell you, a feigned situation, but from this pretense the person might no longer exist if everything had worked out, as the special services know how to do , and we we saw from examples of how russian bloggers and opinion leaders are blown up, if today he has already become one of the targets that needs to be removed from the chessboard, it’s just not much time in the future, but we have other neighbors , yes, in the west, the baltic states, poland, we see what position their politicians have now taken, but on the other hand, if you think logically , what is happening now in ukraine with ukraine and its politicians, not to mention what is happening with the people of ukraine, must
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become such a colossal lesson for our western neighbors, the other day our president in vostrovo made a very interesting remark about our neighbors in the west, let’s listen, then we’ll try to understand all this together and draw conclusions, let’s listen, there’s a new leadership in poland, i’m not delighted that donald tusk has come, i’ve known him for a long time, i said right before the elections that he was a pro-european person, and the written peace was more of a pro-american party. but that doesn't mean tomorrow is there the policy towards belarus will change, we talk to them through closed channels and so on, they present me with some conditions , you let him go, let him go, he broke the law, how can i let him go, for this there must be certain conditions, they still they step on my chest with their knees, they start squeezing something out, fuck you, we are a sovereign, independent state, and we will pursue the policy that is in the interests of our people, so... that says it all, if they are ready for this, tomorrow we ready to shake a friend
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hand in hand to each other in any place and are ready to cooperate with them, a lot depends on you, a lot depends, maintain normal relations with the lithuanians and poles, there is no need to quarrel with them, we are one people, in fact in this cradle, they are our neighbors, there is no escape, in fact, this, to put it very simply, is a recipe for peace in our region. at least with our neighbors, yes, but they don’t choose neighbors , the head of state is absolutely right when he speaks about this publicly, but the question is, if you look at the history of poland’s relations with the russian empire, with russia, with the soviet union, for a certain period, except when there was poland , because they always dreamed of coming here, it’s not just that even on november 4, so to speak, the poles were expelled from moscow at one time, says the historian, and if we say
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so pragmatic, so you started the program by saying that the world is broken like this and says , now let’s try to build this world in a new way, here we have poles, lithuanians, latvians, not a single person, ordinary in the world does not want war, he wants to raise children, he wants to get paid, see the world, but the president has made a very clear mistake now, there are politicians, and frostbitten ones, now there are people with whom you need to maintain relationships, no matter how difficult it is and we will support them, reality, in this reality we don’t we live there for 200, 300 years, we do not have this historical past in our present day, from this, from this grain, how can we grow peace in our region? you know, this recipe is wonderful, clear, clear and intelligible, most importantly from a deep historical retrospective, you see, i always have great respect for people who are able to draw the right conclusions, often, there are examples, there are events, but
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wrong conclusions are drawn from them, our president made an exceptionally correct conclusion and broadcasts it... not only through our media, he broadcasts it to the whole world: let's live together, this is the first, second, let's find common ground, find mutually beneficial conditions for existence, and the third point, there is no need to set any ultimatum conditions, it is the question of equality, the question mutual understanding, that's... this is the grain and the basis on which the future world can be built, in my opinion, i heard exactly this in the words of our head of state, and the most important thing is that i would like it to reach our closest neighbors, that we are making the right historical conclusions, we understand
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that the people are the people, the leadership is the power of the leadership, they come from... the state - this is a message not only to us, russia and our neighbors, this is a message to the whole world, you look, really happened today a situation where the absolute majority of states, and not only in europe, not only in asia, not only in africa, want to live like human beings, want to have respect for themselves as a person on earth, to whom the lord gives one life on earth, here after all. what we are talking about, this is what is happening now, this is one of the moments of transformation of the world order, and it will happen, 5, 10 years, however long the historical period will take, it is always quite difficult, it is difficult to predict, but the fact that the world is in this option will not exist, the message
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states, let us live in harmony, treating each other humanly, taking into account mutual interests, respecting each other, absolutely accurately and truly. thank you very much for participating in our conversation in this program, i thank our guests, but we are not saying goodbye to the audience, so who is undermining the world, will it come to a new world war, if someone or something is capable of returning humanity to the mainstream of common sense, we let's continue, such a density of events and such an intensity of passions, in order to really understand, you need a cold mind and powerful analytical talent, our guest today on this part is a professional with a capital p, with us ... one of the most authoritative russian-speaking experts, russian intelligence officer, professor mgemo andrey bezrukov, andrey olegovich, hello, we are very glad to see you again, thank you for finding time. i propose to start with the palestinian-israeli confrontation , of course we follow the news, which is filled with emotions, it is understandable, first the bloody attack by hamas, the taking of hostages, then we see the blockade of the gaza strip,
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israeli strikes on civilian targets, the use prohibited shells, according to the un, 70% of those killed in the gas sector were women and children. but behind the emotions it is difficult, and important, to recognize what is happening deeply, in particular , why did everything happen right now in this form? you know, it’s difficult to say here , i can at least name two factors, the first was such a situation recently that the agreement between israel and saudi arabia became a reality, if... this agreement had been signed, palestinian independence would have been possible i'm thinking of putting cross, this is exactly what the americans were leading to, and hamas naturally did not like it, but that’s why right now, why exactly at this
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moment, i think that hamas has become, from a military point of view, at least a fairly independent player, making its own decisions . and naturally, he didn’t even inform his patrons , so to speak, from lebanon and iran, and carried out so that it was difficult to recognize, the preparation for it was difficult to recognize, which was possible, that is, many experts, and all over the world in one voice immediately started talking about the fact that israeli intelligence had overslept, and the reason was precisely that no one expected it, they didn’t agree with anyone, that’s the reason, yes, because they still said, i’m interested in your opinion as a professional in in this sense? you understand what’s the matter, every super intelligence service has a super army, normal people live, mistakes and the question is not that one of them is an outstanding professional, there are probably many of them, but that the whole process of collecting
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information, analyzing it, let’s say , coverage in decision-making circles, proper coverage, then making a decision, taking measures that would prevent what happened. october 7, this is a single chain, if some element in this chain breaks or does not work, if some element in this chain, and here perhaps a political element played a role, then the whole chain does not work, and no matter how we say well about this or that part of this chain, there will be no result, and most likely it is this factor that is being noted now when we...' let's look at the assessments that sound not only
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the special cruelty of israel, they themselves call it decisiveness, but also such nasty patronage of the united states, we see the behavior of washington in sabbezion, israel in general does not hide it, and we can understand that for them this whole story is, well, almost existential a threat, that’s why there is such determination, but what does this mean for the states? in many ways, israeli policy determined american policy in the middle east, to what extent? well, let the scientists sort it out, that’s not the question, for the united states now and for democratic party for a democratic administration, it's really a litmus test of which side you are on, and of course , when you have to choose, the united states chose israel, but let's mention one more thing, if the united states has maneuvered skillfully before. on the one hand, the arab world, on the other hand, israel , its allies in europe, then, apparently, now
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those competencies do not exist, politics is deteriorating, and under the weak leadership of biden, if you can even call him leadership like that, look at the consolidation of the entire west around israel, and yet the west has very serious interests in the arab world, the muslim world. entirely, that is, i just see the degradation of western policy, okay, so we hear loud statements from the arab world, although there are fewer real steps than the statements, maybe for now, but in general, for them the current conflict may become a new assemblage point here the entire region, it has already become to some extent, the arab world will have nothing else left, because well, the influence in such crises is very great, it is also interesting to see how after the event, for example, in
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makhachkala, the western media, especially the american ones, are trying to portray russia as the main anti-seme, this is a distracting maneuver for them, right? well, it’s just funny, it’s just funny, what anti-semitism, i actually don’t see it, but you know, just like in belarus, you can... put it on several elements, so to speak, well, which are already lured by the special services, already ready, uh, for some performances, you know, this the problem, i would say, is more local, this is a problem of local intelligence services, who should have known people who, well, let's say, uh , are ready to come out for any reason, they would have come out differently, for the reason, this, this is just a reason, then, that what is happening now in palestine is, this is a reason for speaking out, it could
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have been different, you remember, at the beginning of the special military operation they also tried to set fire to dagestan, and also in general people came out, this is the problem of how they work local intelligence agencies, and of course, western propaganda, and... people who left russia and are actively fighting the regime in russia, naturally, they will continue to set fires, perhaps to close this topic, andrei olegovich, i want to turn to the facts, they were just well illustrated the other day, while the americans are trying to present the russians as the main antisemi, according to a report published by the national institute and the government of israel, against the backdrop of the war in the middle east, the number of manifestations of anti-semitism throughout the world increased by 1180%, by 1180%. while a third of these manifestations were recorded in the united states by outbreaks large cities of america have become, including new york, that is, it seems to me that this very
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, very well answers the question of who and where, how they relate to israel. meanwhile, the concentration of forces of mutual hatred in the region gives rise to the fear that a new world war will come out of the middle east , in your opinion, how likely will it be, you know, the region has been unstable for a long time, it is already burning, well listen, when we first heard about islamic terrorism in the nineties. right, yes, why? everything is clear, a huge amount unemployed youth, a generally dysfunctional economy, a huge gap between rich and poor, the dominance of western, pro-western politicians, the authorities in saudi arabia pursued an absolutely pro-american policy, and naturally, such tension within
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the region has already led to internal - let's say, conflict between countries and social conflict, you know, this is just a weak link in the world now, the second , of course, weak link can now be called southeast asia, this region around the yellow sea, south china, this sea, which, and of course, what the americans... are trying to do now is to use this tension in order to set fire to both regions, yeah, but the way out here is the formation of a palestinian state should stop this conflict, so that at least the upcoming generation could live in peace, you know, whether this will stop the conflict of confrontation between the arab world and the islamic
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world with israel to the end, i don’t know, but now it is absolutely obvious that without the formation of a normal palestinian state, this the conflict simply cannot be extinguished. closer to us is the topic, of course, which we cannot ignore, behind the fire in the middle east, ukraine is going into the shadows, in the west, in general, this is no longer particularly hidden, in a conversation with russian pranksters, the example of italy miloni, here we are we heard the other day and let it slip: europe is already tired of the conflict in ukraine. zaluzhny’s interview, for which he is now being retaliated against in zelensky’s office, finally a very eloquent cover with a small figure of zelsky and no one in large letters. here's for ukrainian is this confrontation the beginning of the end, or is it just a lull and we don’t need to make such quick conclusions that we are moving into some new stage here? what do you think? well, i don’t see any calm yet, the conflict continues, the military phase, the active
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military phase, the heavy military phase continues. in ukraine at the beginning of the conflict, it no longer exists, neither in society nor in power, this is the first thing, there is no consolidation in terms of western support, as you say, and europe is tired, and the united states is tired, because that the election cycle is beginning in the united states, naturally, the opposition will always take advantage of the weaknesses of the ruling group, we see a huge difference... in losses and we see a huge difference in how can i tell you this, in the overall strategic potential and this difference cannot be equalized by anything, even if the west abandons everything it has left, the conflict will still not turn in the other direction , this is fatigue, it turns into something that,
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according to the people, sounds like it should be dumped, but then the other day he made a decision , still not to prepare for the presidential elections, that is, to take them and cancel them, and here the question arises, which is or rather not a question, but an assumption that he himself feels that, well , to put it mildly, clouds are gathering over him, they will ruin him? there is a very clear understanding that the conflict will not end with the victory of the west, and throwing new resources into this... these resources into ukraine will not lead to anything good anymore, this means that the understanding is growing that the conflict needs to end, and this means with russia will have to somehow negotiate with the authorities, which are now in russia will not come to an agreement in kiev, this is completely clear, the west cannot leave
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this power in kiev, for the simple reason that if this power is left, then the results, tragic for the west, the results of this conflict will fall directly on the west, that is , the question is who lost ? who lost in the conflict will be clear, the west lost , that is, we need a goat whose defeat can be written off, well , so that it fits, the situation fits the following narrative, we did everything we could, we gave what we could, but it’s incomprehensible, an incompetent person named zelsky, that's... that's how he behaved with corruption, with everything else, with wrong decisions regarding the counter-attack, bakhmut, and so on, that it's obvious that the person is incompetent, well
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, it's clear why they lost then, then yes , i don’t think that there is any other opinion now in the west about whether to leave zelsky in kiev or not, how this will be done, this is a completely different question. when we observed makhachkala, we already talked a little about this topic, first of all it showed how easy it is to use, in general, any discontent and mobilize a crowd, so many say that in the twentieth year in minsk we saw similar technologies, in your opinion they have the same root, indeed from the events in the twentieth year in minsk, now , what we saw in the events in makhachkala, well, about the same thing, the technology itself, who does it rely on? into two types of elements, even three, say, into the opposition that exists outside the country, which is encouraged by money and
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technology from the west, which organizes this whole thing, and two elements inside, the first are people who actually hate belarus and russia, are trying to undermine, systematically undermine the situation, the second part is people who, well, are, as it were, rudderless without sails, who do not understand, what are they doing, who can be incited to go out like this, to protest, and this situation exists in any country, and the only question is how capable the local special services are of these people. these provocations will continue, thank you
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very much for participating in our program, thank you for taking the time, thank you , professor magimo, a member of the presidium of the council on foreign defense policy of russia, andrei bezrukov, was in touch with us, well, that’s all for today, see you in a week, happily.

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