[000:00:00;00] let's listen to kaya, so as not to be unfounded, putin decides everything , medvedev, lukashenko, they just dance to his tune and have no influence, as for the nuclear threat, he threatens what we are afraid of, and he knows what we are afraid of. he gives you free grain, this is a very good tactic from his point of view, but you know, we know russia very well, because we were occupied by them for 50 years, it seems to me that baltic politicians are very fertile ground, well, calling is a different story

our activities, separate page, they they can’t restrain themselves, after all, there’s no political correctness there, there’s nothing like that, russophobia is just like that, well, listen, we listened to this nonsense for an hour, and it’s like we tried to argue a little there, and she understood that you were playing her or no, it’s not, she promised to send us a book on the history of russia, there is a story, just when she said that well, we’re not tired, we’re not tired, i think maybe she already understands what, well, she said that, well it’s just how she helps, what volumes of help, it’s obviously like this tiny in comparison: another question, what if, what to say about military assistance, if estonia gives 2% of its own, of its gdp for some kind of armed forces for weapons for ukraine, well, what is its benefit, they gave these funds , nato compensated them for this, but with new weapons

, that is, they get their benefit, plus they... well, then she sells her transfers on ways , but this is also an interesting point, and indeed, because they want to sell ukrainian grain at three prices, but they ask, but they ask, it’s european union they think that please finance it to pay for it because here we can improve the roads, thereby we can... sell more, because they are idle these ports, all the ports that were used before in the soviet union, and when else give or take, when they were under occupation, so under occupation, that’s a separate conversation, she said 25% of them were exiled to siberia, everyone was exiled, no, well, she’s there too , if you listen, there it’s just really, well, she’s fierce, fierce , to me, well, she’s fierce, of course, but i don’t know who her dad was, dad was the head of all the savings banks in estonia, they

lived so poorly, the occupation? of course, he was a policeman, dad was the head of sberkas, a member of the cpsu, prime minister after the collapse of the union, and her husband, yes, there was something with putino, well, that’s all for her, but she was starving, she was starving, apparently dad deprived her, not loved her very much, so she has all this hatred for everything that was in the soviet union, but do you think they sincerely hate russia, or is it some kind of stereotype imposed, it’s even probably not just sincerity, as if they were already born with it, as it were... is included in their program, because if we take, well, there is europe to the west, there it is more likely to be some kind of pr story for many, what everyone says, in fact, yes, even if we take a snapshot, we talked to many people , and as if there is something to compare with, the baltic states are these theses, yes , if we take other european countries, then no one there really cares about ukraine, it’s just

that the trend is western... the press gives the trend, which means ukraine is a victim, we must constantly support it, give money, weapons, otherwise, otherwise they will come for us later, accordingly, as we also had this swedish, swedish minister of foreign affairs, he said, what then, then they will seize the baltic states, then they will seize the caucasian countries and in general it will be, well, and then they have this myth that russia is evil, yes , they carefully protect it, even the fact that you were removed from youtube, even the fact that they published the same thing about freedom of speech somewhere? at first they began to publish, the entire british press was noisy, and some even declared that he should resign, but when he published this letter, he set himself on fire, because he wrote in this letter that, well, as he addressed to the ceo of youtube, he wrote with the rest of the disseminating information, we figured it out, we hope that

you will do the same, and after that not... with an english official, he is not covered by the british press , this again comes to where censorship is, in support of democracy, of course, he made a splash, as our experts said, the effect of a bomb exploding, let's listen, you communicated with the top of this foundation on behalf of svetlana tikhanovskaya. but i have a couple of points that i wanted to touch on, firstly, on the labor front, we have a labor group

that has been working in belarus right now since the nineties, although they are working in ukraine now, but we continue to work. plus we have already directly financed some labor actions in belarus for 17 years, so we continue to work on this and we understand how critically important this is, in russia it is more important. this is barbara hake, she is the foundation's vice president for politics, political issues, and ideology. i'm still i’ll add, she’s not just even the vice president. she is also the daughter of the commander, usa in europe. alexander haig, who was just the commander of nato troops in europe, that is, they are serious in fact, but these are some kind of shadow people, but only thanks to you we learned that such a barbara hake actually exists, i’m in the russian-speaking segment, i when

i type heik, i just come across your alexander heik, i think if you go on the internet, you will find a lot of interesting things about him, look, she has a tongue leninsky, so sleeper cells, and tinder. yes, this is the terminology of the cold war, yeah, that is, it would seem, how many years have passed, so people live, uh, in that world and they further project it, that our cells are hidden, which means we have everything ready, if anything we finance it secretly , they laughed when we said, well, everything will be allowed in russia in belarus, but probably nothing will work out, ha ha ha, so, that is, you think that all these gangs, these funds pose some kind of danger -well, yes, because they are very long, they are like her she said and what’s interesting is, well, we had a long debate about this language group on novo, which supposedly teaches the language, but it helps, but they say that these are the hardest workers in their neva revolution, where does the money

come from, actually from these characters, and when they say that the west has never interfered in internal political processes in belarus, what do you feel? let's see how it is... tikhanovskaya travels to various countries, they accept her, then it means some kind of behind-the-scenes discussions, but in the twentieth, twenty-first she was of course much more more popular in the west, and as you remember, in venezuela, there was this boydo, we also had the same experience with him, it was in the twentieth year that it was obvious to you that these western ears were sticking out, well, this is not the first story of this, not the first, yes , that is, we already have extensive experience in communicating with such people. why , in your opinion, did a number of russian experts not recognize that this is who you call experts? well, even in solovyov’s talk show program at first they sounded, and

zhirinovsky was still alive, that this was all, they said that it was the people themselves, that no one was them there are no puppeteers in charge, well, it would seem such a beautiful story, but dissatisfied people come out, how to take kiev, there is the maidan for the fourteenth year. well, too, such a beautiful picture is being created, all the revolutionaries are coming out, you’re listening to this barbara hay, we’ve already heard enough, believe me, yes, well , you’re interested in political prank , it’s to ukraine that you reacted, but well, at least you left, no no right here, oh, ukraine, ukraine, and we were doing it in russia, we had a prank in 2011 with the head of the central election commission vladimir churov, then there were more different ones. ministers there, draw parallels, that’s what, well, like in the euromaidan and the twentieth year in belarus, what are, well, in general, the same customers, this is already clear, well, who, these

same funds, who is behind the funds, this is all clear and uh, the administration, well, this is clear to you, tell our viewers, there are viewers, however, who still do not believe that these stories are for these viewers, i recommend listening to our work and where we communicate. with the people who stood behind such maidans, including ours conversation with john bolton, who served as national security advisor to the president of the united states, who directly said that we wanted to organize a revolution in belarus, and because of this we even came, as we know, he came to minsk so that the president would take and turned away from russia, that was our goal, well, that, and when he refused, then we decided to organize similar events, let’s listen to bolton himself talk about it, to win, and you had to make sure that lukashenko was not there either . you met him,

so this was a chance, and i talked to tikhanovskaya, she really hoped for regime change, and what went wrong? that i guess i went to meet with lukashenko to assess whether we could get him to turn his back on moscow, and i did believe that nato created this problem in many ways, ukraine, thereby allowing the russians to create problems there, yes, but you helped, and tikhanovskaya too, so if you could help her a lot more, i think we could achieve more. yes, i think there's still a lot we can do, i think

that in terms of security in eastern europe, we will lose belorussia, it will go to russia, no matter what happens from a military point of view in ukraine, i think that in the end we will win, but we could lose belarus without a fight, and this would simply lead to the fact that ukraine, poland, and the baltic republics would find themselves in a strategically very, very disadvantageous position. i wonder why bolton doesn’t hide behind democratic values, and generally fell into a frenzy of self-flagellation, you’re asking a rhetorical question. we talked with him already, when he was not in the status of an adviser, so think, it was then that he probably thought that he would run for the post of president, we communicated then from poroshenko , so that’s also the former president, one could remember the old days, maybe you can also list for our viewers what pranks are worth watching on this topic, by the pavilionist zhagimantis, yes, he is such a beauty too. and in general, he thought that

he was communicating with one of the leaders of the russian opposition, leonid volkov, and there i completely told him everything as it is, that’s it, he’s a very talkative, frank person, i like it when he says, i was created by a specific foundation, the foundation gave me this money, i’ll put you in touch with these people, with these congressmen, uh, well, these are the people who then declare their independence, that they were under some kind of occupation, let’s take a break for a moment, i remind you, we have a telegram channel, don’t be silent, subscribe, ask questions and suggest guests , we are in touch, we are going forward with our expedition around the corners of our the country, a change for this, no matter how we perceive this unity, we are heading for a new

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well, it was quite funny to communicate with svetlana tikhanovskaya, moreover, we communicated on behalf of petro poroshenko, but the interesting point is that when we established contact and accordingly called her to zoom, via video and well, it was communication and we did not expect when actually she appeared on the screen , she was not alone, there were still so many people there, four were with her, five, three were, although, although we didn’t we kind of thought, well, communication usually happens when such conversations, well, protocol there at about the highest level, begin, they are sort of discussed in correspondence, that my adviser will be there, so-and-so will be there, the ambassador will be there, but here’s a surprise, i feel somewhat sorry for her, of course, tikhonovskaya, because it’s clear that she has become such a hostage, she can’t escape anywhere, she already has to play, don’t you think that she already likes being this hostage, well, maybe yes, because she is accepted, she travels around the world, she receives

some money, it is clear that the fund is not for this wanted to give money for guchi on alui, but they refused, they said, well, by the way , they took this speech you came up with very seriously, well, they understand, they were apparently inspired by the fact that money can be spent precisely for such purposes, the representative issue is also how much money does svetlana personally get, because there is a huge staff of these advisers, it is clear that she is not in charge, but they say that a very small percentage even reaches the location where they are located, maybe she doesn’t even know how much at all and there is no, there huge money, you understand that how much money is in... i see this money myself, it also seems to me that this is being squandered at the level of european officials, partly, i think that someone needs to live there, they live on this money

, and this office, it really, i mean, the foundation could communicate with tikhonovskaya , they generally knew about her existence, of course, because they worked with her, there was a girl who was there, they also communicated with her before, just apparently not, not at such a high level, it is clear that, they probably understand that they have there, like tikhanovskaya, we have small ones, like this fund has certain regional representatives, for each region, there, for example, there is a regional representative for europe, for russia, for belarus, and we wrote to the head office, this office has screwed up so many things, shown its complete, so to speak, inactivity. uselessness, and why uselessness, we called a lot of people in europe from svetlana, that’s understandable, but what i mean is that there are still a number of runaways, yes even here, people who have become quiet, who still believe in this office , the same svetlana and her entourage, why do they still

have this faith, there are enough idiots, firstly, let's start with this, secondly, let us remember, that we have enough of these. comrades of our country and fugitives there and relocants and so on, we even have experience of communication, soon i think this will be published, very respected people, in fact, who have a huge audience in the west, who say that we dream and we just don’t see you when ukraine wins russia, your country, and the russian army are just the scum of society, when... these people, well, in private conversations they say this, it seems to me that, well, it’s significant, in fact, we already understood this, but will