[000:00:00;00] draw conclusions together, let’s listen, there’s a new leadership in poland, i’m not delighted that don tusk has come, i ’ve known him for a long time, i said right before the elections that he was a pro-european man, and the written word was more of a pro-american party , but this does not mean that tomorrow the policy towards belarus will change there, through closed channels, we talk to them and so on, they present me with some conditions, will you let this one go? let him go, he broke the law, how can i let him go, for this we must there may be certain conditions, they also step on my chest with their knee and begin to squeeze out something, fuck you, we are a sovereign, independent state, and we will pursue the policy that is in the interests of our people, that says it all, if they are ready for this, tomorrow we are ready to shake hands with each other, anywhere, we are ready to cooperate with them, a lot depends on you, a lot

depends, support. normal relations, there is no need to quarrel with them, we are one people, in fact in this cradle, they are our neighbors, there is no escape, in fact, this is if very simplified, then the recipe for peace in our region, at least with our neighbors , yes, but neighbors are not chosen , the head of state is absolutely right when he speaks about this publicly, but it’s a question if you look at the history of relations between poland. with the russian empire, with russia, with the soviet union, for a certain period, except when there was poland , because they always dreamed of coming here, it’s not just that, even on november 4, the poles, so to speak, were expelled from moscow at one time, yes, here is a historian speaking to you, but to put it pragmatically, we started the program with what we are saying is that the world has broken down like this and says, now let ’s try to build this world in a new way, here we have

poles, lithuanians, latvians, more than one person, the average person in the world doesn’t want war, he wants to educate children, he wants to get paid, see the world, but the president has now very clearly deceived him, there are politicians , yes, frostbitten, now it’s different, there are people with whom you need to maintain relationships, no matter how difficult it is, and we will support them , this is reality, in this reality we don’t live there for 200, 300 years, we do not have this historical past in our present day, from this, from this grain, how can we grow peace in our region? you know, this recipe is wonderful, precise, clear and intelligible, most importantly with a deep historical retrospective, you see, i always have great respect for people who are able to draw the right conclusions, often, there are examples, there are events, but wrong conclusions are drawn from them, our the president made an extremely correct conclusion and

is broadcasting it not only... through our means mass media, he broadcasts it to the whole world: let's live together, that's the first thing, second, let's find common ground, find mutually beneficial conditions for existence. and the third point, there is no need to set any conditions for ultimams, it is the issue of equality, the issue of mutual understanding, that... this is the grain and the basis on which the future world can be built, in my opinion, i heard exactly this in the words of our head of state , and the most important thing is that we would like our closest neighbors to know what we are doing correct historical conclusions, we understand that the people are the people, the leadership is the power -

the leadership is the power, they come and go. but the people remain. the heads of state are a message not only to us, russia and our neighbors, but a message to the whole world. look, today, indeed, a situation has arisen where the absolute majority of states, and not only in europe , not only in asia, not only in africa, want to live like human beings, want to have respect for themselves as a person on earth, for whom god alone life gives on earth. that's what it's about. we are talking about what is happening now, this is one of the moments of transformation of the world order, and it will happen, 5, 10 years, however long the historical period will take, it is always quite difficult, it is difficult to predict, but the fact that the world is in this version will not exist, the message of the state is, let's live together, treating each other humanely, taking into account mutual interests, respecting each other,

absolutely accurately and truly. thank you. thank you very much for participating in our conversation in this program, i thank our guests, but we don’t say goodbye to the audience, this also undermines the world, will it come to a new world, if someone or something is able to return humanity to the mainstream of common sense, we continue, such a density of events, such an intensity of passions that really to figure it out, you need a cold mind and powerful analytical talent, our guest today on this part is a professional with a capital p, one of the most authoritative russian-speaking experts, russian intelligence officer, professor mgemo andrey bezrukov, andrey olegovich, is connected with us, hello, we are very happy about our new meeting, thank you for taking the time, i propose to start with the palestinian-israeli confrontation , of course, we follow the news, which is filled with emotions, it is understandable, first there is a bloody hamas attack, the taking of hostages, then we see the blockade of the gaza strip, israeli strikes on civilian targets, the use of prohibited shells, according to the un, 70%

of those killed in the gaza strip are women and children, but behind the emotions it is difficult, it is important to recognize what is happening deeply, in particular, why everything happened right now in this form , you you know, it’s hard to say here, i can at least name two factors. first , recently there was such a situation that the agreement between israel and saudi arabia became a reality. if this agreement had been signed, palestinian independence could, i think, be put to rest. and this is exactly what the americans were leading to. and hamas naturally did not like this, but that’s why right now, why exactly at this moment, i think that hamas has become, from a military point of view, at least a fairly

independent player, accepting its own decision, and naturally, he did not even inform his, so to speak, patrons , from lebanon, iran, and carried out so that it would be difficult to recognize, the preparation for it would be difficult to recognize, which was successful, that is, many experts, and all over the world they immediately started talking with one voice that israeli intelligence had overslept, and the reason was precisely that no one expected it, no one agreed with anyone, that was the reason, yes, because they were still talking about a super intelligence service, a super army , i ’m interested in your opinion, as a professional in in this sense, in the sense, you know, what’s the matter, every super-special service from the super-armies lives with normal people, they do. and the question is not that one of them is an outstanding professional, there are probably many of them, but that the whole process of collecting information, its

analysis, its, let’s say, coverage in decision-making circles, correct coverage, then making a decision, making measures that would have prevented what happened. october, this is a single chain, if some element in this chain breaks or does not work, if some element in this chain, and here perhaps a political element played a role, then the whole chain does not work, and no matter how well we talk about this or that part of this chain, there will be no result, and most likely this is precisely this factor here, note now, when we look at the assessments that sound not only the special cruelty of israel, they themselves call it decisiveness, but also such zealous patronage of the united states, we see the behavior of washington in sabbezion, israel, in general, does not hide it, and we can understand this ,

that for them this whole story is almost an existential threat, so that’s why they are so decisive, but what does this mean for the states? in many ways, israeli policy determined american policy in the middle east, how true is this? well, let the scientists figure it out, that's not the question, for the united states, now for the democratic party for the democratic administration, it's really a litmus test of which side you're on, and of course, when you have to choose, the united states chose israel, but let's mention one more thing, if before the united states skillfully maneuvered. on the one hand, the arab world, on the other hand, israel, its allies in europe, then, apparently, now those competencies do not exist, politics is deteriorating, and

under the weak leadership of biden, if you can even call him leadership like that, look what kind of consolidation has taken place in general the entire west around israel, but the west has very serious interests in the arab world, in the muslim world, in its entirety, that is, i simply see the degradation of the western politicians, okay, so we hear loud statements from the arab world, but there are still fewer real steps than statements, maybe for now... but in general, for them, could the current conflict become a new assembly point for the entire region? it has already become to some extent , the arab world will have nothing else left, because well, the influence of the so-called arab street, in such crises, is very great on politics, it is also interesting to observe how, after the events, for example, in makhachkala, western leaders, especially the americans are trying to expose russia... antisem, this is their

kind of diversionary maneuver, right? well, it's just funny, it's just funny. what anti-semitism? i, i actually don’t see him, but you know, just like in belarus, you can put on several elements, so to speak, well, that have already been fed by the special services, are already ready for some performances, well you know, this is a problem, i would say, more local, this is a problem of local intelligence services, who should have known people who, well, let’s say, are ready to come out for any reason, they would come out on another occasion, this is just a reason, the fact that what is happening now in palestine is a reason for speaking out, it could have been different, you remember, at the beginning of the special... military operation they also tried to set fire to

dagestan and also in general, people came out, is this a problem with how the local intelligence services work? well, naturally, western propaganda, and people who left russia and are actively fighting the regime in russia, will naturally continue to set fires, perhaps to close this topic, andrei olegovich, i want to turn to the facts, they are these days were just good... while americans are trying to present russians as the main anti-semites, according to a report published by the national institute and the government of israel, against the backdrop of the war in the middle east, the number of manifestations of anti-semitism throughout the world has increased by 1.180%, by 1.180%. moreover, a third of these manifestations were recorded in the united states; large american cities, including new york, became hotbeds, that is, it seems to me that this answers the question very, very well about who and where, how they relate to israel. that's why

over time, the concentration of forces of mutual hatred in the region gives rise to the fear that a new world war will come out of the middle east, in your opinion, it will happen, how likely is it, you know, the region has been unstable for a long time, it has already been burning, well , listen, when we first heard about islamic terrorism in the nineties, right? but why? everything is clear: a huge number of unemployed youth, a dysfunctional economy as a whole, a huge gap between rich and poor, the dominance of western, pro-western politicians, the authorities in saudi arabia pursued an absolutely pro-american policy, and naturally, such tension within the region, it has already led to internal -

let's say, conflict between countries and social conflict, you know, this is just the weak link in the world now, the second, of course the weak link can now be called south-east asia, this region around the yellow sea, the southern chinese sea , which and, of course, what the americans are trying to... what to do now is to use this tension so that both set another region on fire. yeah, but the way out here is the formation of a palestinian state must occupy this conflict so that at least the next generation can live in peace there. you see, whether this conflict stops the confrontation between the arab world and the islamic world with israel to the end, i don’t know, but. it is now completely obvious that without the formation

of a normal palestinian state, this conflict simply cannot be extinguished. a topic closer to us, of course, which we cannot ignore, is the middle east by fire, ukraine is going into the shadows, in the west , in general, this is no longer hidden, especially in conversations with russian pranksters, for example, italy miloni, we heard the other day , she let it slip, europe is already tired of the conflict in ukraine. the interview with the zaluzhny, for which he is now getting revenge in zelsky’s office, finally. very eloquent cover with a small figure of zelsky in large letters nobody. for the ukrainian confrontation, is this the beginning of the end, or is it just a lull and we don’t need to draw such quick conclusions from. what we are we moving into some new stage here, what do you think? well, i don’t see any calm yet, the conflict continues, the military phase, the active military phase, the heavy military phase continues, that consolidation in ukraine at

the beginning of the conflict, it no longer exists, neither in society nor in power, this is the first thing, there is no consolidation and with western support point of view. as you say, europe is tired, and the united states is tired, because the election cycle is starting in the united states, naturally, the opposition will always exploit the weaknesses of the ruling group, we see a huge difference in losses, and we see a huge difference in, how can i tell you this, in the overall strategic potential, and this difference cannot be equalized by anything. even if the west abandons everything it has left, the conflict will still not turn in the other direction, this is fatigue, it, it, it turns into what the people say , will they merge zelsky or not, as long as it looks like that he was in the mood to

dump him, but he recently made a decision, after all, he is not preparing for the presidential elections, that is, cancel them, and here the question arises, which, or rather, is not a question, but an assumption that he himself feels that, to put it mildly, clouds are gathering over him and will drain him? there is a very clear understanding that the conflict will not end with a victory for the west. and throwing new resources into this conflict, these resources into ukraine , will not lead to anything good. this means that the understanding is growing that the conflict needs to end, and that means it will have to be done with russia. russia will not negotiate somehow with the authorities that are now in kiev, this it’s completely clear, and the west cannot leave this power in kiev, for the simple reason that if this power is left, then the results,

the tragic results of this conflict for the west, will fall directly on the west, that is, the question of who lost... who lost in the conflict will be clear, the west lost, that is, we need a goat whose defeat can be written off, well, so that it fits, the situation fits the following narrative, we did everything we could, we gave what we could, but here’s an incomprehensible, incompetent man named zelsky , like this... behaved with corruption, with everything else, with wrong decisions regarding the counterattack, bakhmut, and so on, that well, obviously the person is incompetent, well, it’s clear why they lost then, that is , i don’t think that there is any other opinion

now in the west about that whether to leave zelsky in kiev or not, how this will be done, is a completely different question. when we observed makhachkala, we already talked a little about this topic, first of all, he showed how easy it is to use, in general, any discontent and mobilize crowd, many say that in 2020 in minsk we saw similar technologies, in your opinion they have the same root, indeed from the events in 2020 in minsk, now what we saw in the events in makhachkala is, well, about the same , the same... technology, who does it rely on? into two types of elements, even three, let’s say, into the opposition that exists outside the country , which is encouraged by money and technology from the west, which organizes this whole thing, and two elements inside: the first

is people who really hate, belarus and russia and are trying to undermine, systematically undermine the situation, the second part is people who, well, seem to have no rudder and no sails, who do not understand what they are doing, who can be incited to come out like this, to protest, moreover, this situation exists in any country, and the only question is how capable the local special services are of seeing these people, identifying them and working with them. these provocations will continue, thank you very much. for participating in our program, thank you for finding time, thank you, professor

andrei bezrukov, member of the presidim of the council on foreign defense policy of russia, was in touch with us. well, that’s all for today, see you in a week, happily. its history, its nature. its culture, its faith, its people, and its generosity, you will feel it once and never forget it again , everything is real here. president of belarus alexander lukashenko stated

the need to establish uniform strict rules of the game for the field of passenger road transportation, he stated this at a meeting in minsk. the head of state noted that the question regarding passenger road transport concerns the route that taxis run in cities and between populated areas. the government has prepared a draft decree regulating relations in this area. proposed innovation. became a topic of discussion at a meeting with the president. for 9 months of the twenty-third year, a little more than 10,000 cars were checked and 9,000 violations were identified. the worst thing is that illegal immigrants deliberately evade the security requirements that apply to regular carriers, the availability of the necessary driver's category and experience, people are driven by everyone who wants, and then there are wild accidents in smalevichi, children die , a dozen and a half people are killed, no one is to blame, so there is no experience,

no category, no permission to fly, no technical inspection, no work and rest schedule is observed, these drivers bomb from morning to evening, because it’s money for the owners, this attitude to business will sooner or later lead to a tragedy, as i already said, similar to the smalevichi area, where a dozen and a half people died. and children too, from a financial point of view more often in total, they reveal concealment of revenue, as i said, business fragmentation, salaries in envelopes, non-payment of taxes. i think that we, roman aleksanovich , need to make it tougher, this concerns you too, you know, on the topic, toughen the punishment for real things, he fragmented the business, i answer, he did not pay taxes, listen, whoever reproaches us, in america. you can get life imprisonment for tax evasion, it’s a democratic country, why are we talking, hence the unfair

competition with legal carriers, which affects the work of the entire industry road transport, that is, they transport haphazardly, they steal, they steal, they don’t pay taxes, of course, which buses and so on can compete with them, right, that is, unequal conditions, don’t we see this? the first forum for the belarusian business community (export league) was organized by the national marketing center. leading national experts in the field of foreign economic activity gathered on one site. the event is aimed at representatives of small medium-sized businesses taking their first steps in entering foreign markets, as well as large organizations interested in obtaining information about the latest trends in the current foreign economic agenda. the economy is growing, and our indicators for the current period are increasing compared to the same period last year.

our products from the same forest and processed wood, yes, are in increased and, most importantly , stable demand in new markets, despite the fact that logistics were initially difficult, but we and our partners have resolved a number of difficult issues. and now we are recording exports only in growth, suffice it to say that to the republic of uzbekistan, exports of woodworking products from our segment increased by more than 1.8 times. an increasing number of belarusian women are interested in hunting, so a women ’s hunting organization may appear in belarus under the auspices of the belarusian society of hunters and fishers ; the head of the organization, igor shunevich, spoke in more detail about how the cell will be organized in the program of the president’s conversation. the club will unite not only those women who are already

experienced hunters, but also girls who they are just starting to get used to it. by the way, similar clubs already exist in many european hunting associations. women's hunting is still, despite the fact that it is always men who organize it, but women's hunting is specific in a certain sense, to a greater extent it seems to me that this will be a club of interests, and there will not only be hunting. i think that this is hunting cuisine, this is hunting fashion, even for weapons, this is spending time together, relaxing, and most importantly, this is for sure... it will give us men a lot a lot of useful and good things, starting from the fact that women will probably be more loyal to our hobby, to our occupation. more than thirty district centers are now available in the my city application, this is a special program in which the main organizations are digitized to help residents of settlements and businesses. in the application, you can, for example, sign up for services online or

book a product, check the opening hours of a bank or post office. pharmacies, coffee shops and get directions to them, and you can also create a cultural navigator of attractions and events of a specific city, the my city project was launched 2 years ago, belarusian cities are gradually connecting to a smart platform that improves comfort and quality of life. this initiative is part of the state program for the digital development of belarus. this application, let's say, is about everything and for everyone, i would also like to say that using this application is not difficult, it is simple, at the same time. here industrial enterprises can also advertise their products, their services and goods, which is extremely important for the region and for our guests too, it has already been received more than 6,000 requests to obtain the necessary information. leaf fall is preparing for the opening ceremony, the film will start this friday. on the eve of the big marathon, the organizers, as well as the festival management , held a press conference at which the opening ceremony of the film was announced. we start with

the film debut of the director of the youth studio kino smolka in belarus. in the film by kirill khaletsky, he filmed the story of a young man who dreams of making a real movie, out-of-competition screenings are planned as part of the festival, in addition, in the capital days of national cinema of russia, kazakhstan, syria and pakistan will take place, leaf fall will cover the entire country, about eighty points on the map of belarus will join the film forum. the specificity of the very name and theme of the film - filmmakers, we are creating the future, our slogan, it still speaks about our, let's say, future generation, and let's say, those people who will live after us, perhaps, certainly, all the more so... there is still a moment of a youthful look, and i would like, to be honest, to somehow get away a little from such heavy monumental forms, especially at the beginning, after all, the beginning of the festival is a holiday, it is the beginning of a lot of work, but it is a holiday. the walls of the art gallery of the university of culture were decorated with living exhibits from physalis,

rattan, linden and linden, an exhibition of germination, a joint project of florist yulia antukh, as well as metal sculptor sergei galuza. he presented abstract bronze figures in the exhibition. yulia antukh is a participant in floristic competitions and thematic projects, and sergei gluza is the author of sculptures in many cities of belarus, including minsk, vitebsk and verkhnedvinsk. just one chance to show your strength. here, each correct answer brings the teams closer to the path. 70-80% answer, well, this is sitting at home, from the sofa, what was the name of this gang, if memory serves the black cat, in honor of what holiday, alexander, dozhinki, dozhinki, of course, absolutely true, the ice arena, which is home for extra league club dynamo molodechno, demonstrate your intellectual

potential to the whole country, let's check, check, check? check ima, we don't play chess, check is the dying state of the king, when else it’s like one action, one more step, and then there will be checkmate, this soviet athlete is recognized as the best hockey player of the century according to the international hockey federation, sergey, i think that vladislav trisyak is absolutely right, the smartest and bravest gather here, this is an egg, what, chicken, chicken egg, chocolate, watch in intellectual and entertaining shows on the belarus 24 tv channel, lack of discipline is failure, failure is war, it all starts with the economy, the same applies to

international politics, for some it may it may seem strange that while the whole world is in the fires of military conflicts, the president says: “about the war, but about the economy, but he is doing this precisely in order to stop the war, with regards to exports, which lukashenko personally has done in recent years, that is after the sanctions, he agreed with putin that part of the production for products critically needed by russia would be organized in belarus, moreover, russia would finance it, and the goods produced would be guaranteed to be bought at a high price. alexander grigorievich calls for studying mistakes of others, and not fill your