[000:00:00;00] he should be only for himself, and others will look at him within the framework of all concepts, i believe there must initially be purposefulness, professional education, psychological preparation of the employee implies working with all categories of citizens that we have, you need to be a worthy officer , a worthy man, uh, so that behind his back , when he retires, they would say, he was a worthy man who served, gave everything to his homeland with alexander, what does your biggest dream look like in sculpture, i don’t have any one thought, well, that is, it is multifaceted, that is, it is rather

some kind of series, some kind of big message to , well, that is, some kind of big image, as a child he dreamed of being like his father , wear a beard and disappear all day in the studio, and his dream came true, today he is famous with... and his last name has already become a brand in the world of artists. today my guest is the sculptor alexander shapo. alexander, hello. alexandre, the chapeau family dynasty, is very widely known in the artistic world, your father is an artist, you and your brothers are also connected your life with creativity. your sons are no exception. so how did this happen? is this a special upbringing? part of upbringing, but

somehow according to fate. you know, we are all artists, it happened in the family, uh, well, of course, our father, the main leader , vladimir, my two brothers, pavel and anton, my sister also drew beautifully, but chose a more poetic, linguistic and artistic path, and my wife is also an artist-sculptor, our dog is mazilyan madi, well, that is, it’s like all of us are artists, well, as i understand it, there’s nothing there... it’s not surprising, because from early childhood you were immersed in the atmosphere of creativity, the workshop, you probably disappeared there all day long, well, not like you disappeared, as i tell my children, and people in general at lectures, that after regular school, in the fourth grade, i started going to art school , well, can you imagine, that is, the moment of art and

contact with professional... in fact, teaching art history, drawing, painting, sculpture, decorative and applied arts, i started in the fourth grade, direct education, you know, by the eighth grade i had already graduated from art school, well, then , it’s clear that i always visited my father’s workshop in parallel - in my free time, and i worked with my father for a long period of time, i’m the eldest son in the family and that’s why i’m very... she started working, helping her father, but after art school i went to enroll in the arts, and as i understand it, you paved this path and your brothers have already followed in your footsteps, also art school , well grandfather, you don’t even understand how i finished, everything seemed to be fine , there is one artist in the family, but the brothers turned out

to have their own... their own interpretation of the world, even the little ones i remember them, we always played together, sculpted, there wasn’t a day when we didn’t sculpt together, a well-known surname, it leads to comparison in any case, this has never bothered you, well , we are not each other’s competitors, rather, we are comrades-in-arms, colleagues, friends, well, we no, on the contrary, i believe that if the surname sounds, then it sounds for me too. when father exhibited or brothers exhibited or participated in some projects, how critical is your father in assessing your work? my father is not, not a man who dominates me and such a super-authority who came and pointed with his finger, no, well, that is, we are friends with him, you know, we are colleagues, and he can do it to me, even i can do it over him joke there

and so on. well, that is, he comes to me when i even show him my work specifically because my father taught art history at the art school where i studied, about which i spoke earlier, 25 years, imagine, that is, well, history, art , composition, and knowledge, his fundamentally , his father is a book lover, he had 10,000 books in his library, well, several thousand in fine arts, he read it all, degree his education is off the charts, so to see him and feel his opinion on this or that work, i may not listen, but hearing another point of view is important for me. i know that you had to leave home early, at the age of 14 you entered the boarding school named after akhremchik, from that time, your independent

life essentially began. we were homesick, well, you know the subtleties of it, so to speak, yes, but in fact, the fact is that it was like this , you know, i was the older brother, well, there were my mother’s assistants, you know, so let’s let my son go there , well, from the city of novopolsk at that moment we lived, on vacation, i was, well, a teenager, well, like my mother, i remember that i was very upset, but my father was convinced that i needed to continue my professional education, and at what points in life you missed your parents' house the most, well brothers, dogs, mom, of course, well, we always had a cozy home and a big family, i rather missed my family, family means a lot to me, that is, family in the big sense, you know, not and it still is, this experience of growing up quickly, what

imprint did it leave on your life? i will say that i became independent early, well, it just so happened, and the imprint is simple that i began to live independently in a big city. in the capital with all sorts of temptations and so on , well, that is, but he resisted, found his own, his, so to speak, inside, found his stasia, found his line of life, and well, off he goes, and just as minsk gathers us all, minsk gathers all of belarus. so minsk brought my family back together, because they continued their studies, everyone continued in minsk , yeah, well, pavel, my brother came and studied, maxim tanka, anton came, my brother studied in glebova,

my sister came to study linguistics, but when the children arrived , my mother said, we have a large family, and my mother said that i wouldn’t be without children, well, well, it so happened that... well, because, well, i, as the eldest , came here and was whole, so to speak , piece life, i was in minsk, i love minsk very much, minsk is my fourth homeland, my main one, and what was the most difficult thing in this test of independent life, well, my father , of course, always came, well, always, my family was always there and my father always came , he even came at some, that is, moments when he was there, and said: let’s go to moscow, look, they brought chagall, well, that is , we went on the train, well, that’s how we used to have trips, because we did big retrospectives of great artists in pushkinsky

museum, in the russian museum, and we could go to st. petersburg or moscow and see this, so rather, perhaps, such a moment, a person by himself is always alone, and if, well, that is , he still has to find his way, so to say, to search, then it is still, this moment, to find the inner core in oneself, maybe this is the most difficult thing, well, that is , the inner core, e formation, when around - after all, a multimillion-dollar city - allows - not to sit in workshop, you know, but leave, and i studied back in the nineties at the academy of arts, so there was such a thing, well... the times were actually difficult and, well, all sorts of different things happened, but i’m grateful to fate that he found the strength in himself, just to sort of self-determinate, from the first year i started exhibiting, participating in

exhibitions, and well actively, actively, actively participate in the creative life of the country , the skin... the day of pachynaetz z nathnennya syarod meats, tsudoўnykh, slaunyh, with which belarus is so rich, there is a whole lot of adzina, i am for my sake. you can see for yourself what beautiful places we have here, i like her too, why should i change it? yana talented and beautiful, we show master classes on this machine, and many come up and say that oh, but our grandmother had it, for the initial rough work you need two tools, this tool is called a hoof, incredibly fixed with its little darling , the first mention of the village of perru, late 6th, early 7th centuries,

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union. russians are becoming the new jews. belarusians, by the way, also fall under this... main topics on the main broadcast: watch on the tv channel belarus 24. your formation in the profession took place in the nineties, a very difficult period, when all some foundations were destroyed, knocked down, that’s how you survived then artists, what did you come to do? in fact, it so happened that at the time of my studies, when i was studying, i didn’t think about anything at all , my parents gave me some, well, i’m grateful to my parents that they gave me some kind of small penny, some food, and this was enough for me to purposefully engage in drawing and sculpture there.

well, i wasn’t distracted by anything, i was there drawing nudes, doing sculpting, this happened around the clock, i even had a record that i was drawing, and such a purposeful one was engaged in drawing and painted from 9 am to 9 pm, so, well, a record, that is, a personal one, and i didn’t get tired of it, a meeting with customers, where i did a lot of things, i did some, and well, i mean in private interiors, both frescoes and stucco, capitals, and well, in general, a large volume, fireplaces, then it all went, let's go, well, this is what it is, this is practical income, well , this is not a question of pure creativity, for the purchase of pure creativity, it is rather a client, a potential customer , said that he was ready to order me, as a professional , something professionally done, rather

, some kind of commercial guide appeared, that people could understand, that artists also understood that it was possible to even sell their work , well, that is, through the gallery, well, that is, through there is a place where you are exhibiting, that is, people could come right at the exhibition to see the work and say that , well, or call the gallery where you are exhibiting, say that we are ready to buy... this work, that is, the money, it will come on its own , if you don’t find yourself as a creative person, if you don’t find yourself as a creative person, then , well, there won’t be any talk about money, well, you ’ll be, well, a craftsman, well, anyone, but not so to speak, a person, a creator, alexander, how do you feel about the expression that an artist must be hungry, so does the lack of money have a positive effect on

creativity? you agree with this, well, you see, i am a sculptor and my profession is always associated with costs, buying plasticine is money, and molding materials to remove the mold from this plasticine are money, and again, if you order a professional pharmacist who removes, then it’s like money, but going to the foundry, asking the flyers to cast your work in bronze, that’s also, well, money again, well, alas, it’s like we have to talk about money, so the question is, as it were, about hunger, about hunger, well, that is, you know, we understand that it ’s all there... appeals to artists like vincent vangogh, who sat, hungry, wrote there and so on, but vincent had a brother theo, no one remembers about this , who provided him with paints, canvases, but were there moments in your life when you wanted

to quit everything and do something less dependent on customers, on inspiration, let’s say. well, it so happened that my whole life is connected with art, with creativity, and i haven’t found no other hobby, well, you see a person in front of you, well, it’s like, if i have time, i’ll go to the workshop, you know, if i have a free minute, i’ll go to the workshop, i’ll go to the workshop not only, why am i standing there all the time sculpting, i can’t even think about it, in one of the interviews you said that the main pillars of your life are family, creativity and faith, here is your wife, she is also a sculptor, and a hereditary sculptor, how did you meet, we we met at the

art academy, uh, she studied sculpture, too such, you know, well, because only a human sculptor can... understand a human sculptor, well, it’s true, well, that is, it could be some kind of primitive world, you know, a sculptor in belarus, so that you know only 100 people, like you met, you went into the studio, no, no, no, the student canteen, in the corridor for a lecture, i saw her as she walked down the street, and ksyusha teaches, at the bnto, she is an assistant professor - and an architect teaches drawing and sculpture, and well and at the same time i am engaged in creative work in the workshop, like the world is narrow, and now we you see, it’s like we’re participating together with her and there’s this architecture festival going on in minsk, our works are presented there

, mine, at this moment her exhibition from the sculpture section of the belarusian union of artists vitebsk is taking place in the art museum, my works and her works are presented, well so... well, somehow it goes and moves like this, and how ksenia’s artistic family accepted it when you first came to meet your future relatives, it so happened that after the academy of arts i had to transport all my belongings somewhere , that's why that while i was studying at the academy of arts, over the course of 6 years a huge amount of work and materials had accumulated, i said to ksyusha and i said, well... and she says: i need to go to my father, my father, yuri polikov, is a sculptor, he worked at the plant for nekrasov and, well, i came to him, i said , well, it’s like, but we weren’t scheduled at that moment, well, that is, and i said that i would like some kind of corner to drag

everything there, he he was a very good-natured, sweet person, and... there weren’t even any questions, he said, well, no problem, bring it, that’s it, well, that's it, when a big family gathers around the table, which is what you most often talk about, we rejoice that we have gathered, rather , well, uh, every meeting, well, the fact that a large family can, has the opportunity to get together, not so often, probably, yes , it’s joyful to clink glasses there, uh, and drink to everyone’s health, well, i think so, well, that is, that we are happy to meet, that we were able to get everyone together again, our mother raised us in such a way that we are drawn to each other, and we get together when we rejoice at this meeting and, well , rather laugh, remember what jokes, is there creative

competition between you and your spouse? no , of course, well, on the contrary, i help completely, that’s all, it’s a resource, if i have some kind of financial resource, then i’m just here, but creative support, and creative support yes, well, that is, i will definitely say kind words , well, ksyusha can say, but she is always so critical, well, that’s good, i, well, i like criticism professionally, you know, rarely professional criticism, as a rule, like it, don’t like it, this is not a conversation, well, professionally somewhere... then on topic correct, what can i say, look at the sketch there, it was better or, that is, well , some professional things, you have three sons and the two eldest have also tied their lives together?

with art, when they chose a profession, they consulted with you, i didn’t consult with them, well, the thing is that as a father i wanted to give something, something that i can, uh, uh, do well, i can sculpt , the elder ivan , i gave it to vakhremchik, to sculpt the molding also for the sculpture department, if he had not sculpted, if he had not had it in his hands, i did not see, how he, you know, it’s obvious, when a person has, well, how to touch plasticine with your hands, you can see that he has a gut, you know, plastic, if he didn’t have that, i probably wouldn’t have done it , well , he had it in him, he went to study and sculpted well, he studied, but that doesn’t mean that he, that is, further after graduation? it’s just that a sculptor is a multifaceted profession, he can

move on with his plastic knowledge, he can be engaged in design there and be there director and do whatever you want, but then i went - i already entered the academy , i said, i want to go to directing, well, well, i graduated from a documentary film director, well, like my middle son, i don’t think for long i gave it to sculpture too. you see, well, as it were, now - he continues there - looking for himself, well, that is , but nevertheless, let him still have it, but the younger matvey, will continue the dynasty, matvey, strongly - he’s somehow into it, you know, we also have livshi in our family, yes, and this is my father, my

brother and matvey. they are completely different the hemisphere works, imagine, matvey was given a lot, i hope that he will make up his mind, and dancing, and music, creativity, that is, everything, and he sculpted well and drew, that is, this was not a problem for him, we tell you, from the world sciences. thanks to the internet, a person can communicate with other people without leaving home, regardless of distance, and even earn millions. and in fact, one of the few things that humans have not yet been able to subjugate is the climate. we are simply forced to adapt to it. let's share interesting facts. a sensational statement by belarusian scientists, will our climate really become the same as in turkey by the end of the century and what is interesting about the spectrum of protection in

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at the forks, don’t take everything so literally, and unexpected answers to them, maybe it somehow rhymes with dimyan, well, not timyan, but somehow possible, porridge, i don’t know, some kind, this is a sport in which you have to move backwards, i accept the answer rome, the correct answer is milan, santa maria delegation. in milan, build a tower, watch the intellectual show tower on the tv channel belarus 24. alexander, probably the most famous for mensk residents, your work is the tree of life, at the minsk metro station, why such a decision, how did you come up with this idea, metro ,

tree of life, tree of roads, there is a road, tree of roads. i took part in a competition for an idea, made the first sketch, and then the work went on, there was one proposal, one sketch, one album, one project, then the light changed, the story was inside the content , the second project, but the theme of tree roads crossed from project to project, from project to project, somehow it changed, it changed all this time , the subway is very complex... this is not an urban environment at the top, this is an underground environment, there are flows of people, there is even a wind rose, yes, because when the trains pass, there is a filling, so you know, this is when he put up a tree of roads, that citizens wrote, that it sways, they don’t know that it sways, because the foundation group, it is rubberized, because it should have

a slight play, it should not stand as if tightly, because then it will be. this was all created and i always say, i take excursions there, i say that the most inexpensive excursion where you can see modern architecture, modern sculpture, the synthesis of this, the connection of these two beautiful directions in the metro, and not in vain, so to speak, in twenty-first year... in new york our station received, as you know, the best public architectural space of the world, in new york received, that is, an independent jury, puts on the minsk station, because they saw this environment, because to imagine that in new york a sculpture would be loaded into the subway, well, you have to be

super-millionaires, at twenty second year, under the auspices. an architectural competition was held in moscow, the metro station wins again at the station, another work has been installed in minsk , mine, i love it very much, it’s on a military theme, i have a grieving mother standing on derzhinsky avenue, this is another work of realistic plan, dedicated to the tragic theme that connected us all in my family, so to speak, including the war and, well, that is, i always, when i drive in the brest direction or back, i always see her and think, well i was lucky to meet the architect levin, who invited me, leonid miondalevich, who invited me to participate with him in this project, in the improvement of a mass grave, on derzhinsky avenue, where there was an opportunity to display my own vision of this big topics. alexander, what are you

working on now? i'm still sculpting. all sorts of creative things, right now the exhibition is taking place on the arctic circle in solihard, can you imagine, in solihard on the arctic circle they offered me to exhibit and i exhibit sculpture and graphics there, i saw the tundra, thanks to this i saw the northern lights, at the same time i’m just participating like i ’m already... participating in an exhibition in yamal, vitebsk, minsk, in minsk in the union of architects and together with my brothers and father we have a personal exhibition going on right now, well, at the same time i’m also sculpting some projects that have also been playing for a long time, each project that is done is monumental, it’s not momentary, it ’s been done for years, but is there any creative idea that you dream

of realizing, but for now here’s it’s not taking shape, it’s not ripe, when i, as chairman of the sculpture section, spoke about creating some kind of modern sculpture park in minsk, well, that is, but not a park, i mean that we should take chelyuska park and gorkovy park to fill it with sculptures, what is this there could be an environment, well, that is, some kind of, well, an embankment from a modern microdistrict , it was thought that in this direction, well , it would be possible to make such a large, detailed topic, where you could participate yourself and... invite your colleagues to participate and at the same time create a new new environment, a greater environment in a greater sense for amen residents, guests of the capital. our program is called the meaning of life, for you, what is the meaning of life, well, probably in finding oneself, in finding creativity, in finding unity with

those people whom i love and who love me. probably so, thank you,