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[000:00:45;00] alim, what did wrestling teach you, to set goals for yourself, achieve them, discipline, self-discipline, being demanding of you,
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well... and the goals that you set for yourself, the life of my guest is a struggle, both figuratively and literally in the sense of the word, the fight for a place on the food of steel on the wrestling mat, the fight against fear and doubt, the fight to achieve your goals and desires. today my guest is two-time world champion, chairman of the belarusian wrestling federation, alim selimov. alim, hello, kind day, i know that you were born in a large family, the youngest, well, according to tradition, has special treatment, he is not scolded, everyone loves him, he
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gets everything. the best thing you had the same? you know, i lost my father very early, i was 6 years old, and yes, in fact, when my father was alive, i was always the center of attention, i was the most beloved child, because i was the last, you would be the last, yes , i am the fourth child in the family, after i had already lost my father, uh, my older brother took over my upbringing, i grew up in very harsh conditions, that is, they asked me harshly, uh, well, despite all this, they didn’t always explain everything, why such an attitude at one time or another, that is, i got hit on the head, but i got all this for the job, you mentioned that you lost your father early, and what memories do you have of him? he worked for me as a historian at school, a teacher, he was very respected in our village, and my mother also worked, only my mother worked at another
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school, she taught. my father worked at the first school . , mother in the second, and he had a lot of friends, his students always let's just say they treated him with great respect, because he was moderately strict, was always dressed to the nines, was very creative, loved music very much, played the piano, played the... that is, sometimes he could just sit opposite his mother play and sing to your mother, why did you become interested in wrestling? probably under the influence of my older brother, and he also practiced, yes, he also practiced wrestling, but you know, it came to me somehow spontaneously, by accident, because no matter how much i had thoughts, i didn’t have, not
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there was a goal to engage in wrestling, no one told me about it, i knew that my brother goes to the wrestling section, and when i just lost my father, several years passed, opposite a private house, we had a volleyball teacher, we we went with her to the gym, the girls were training, they gave me, well, an older girl, they gave me a ball, i hit this ball against the wall, and just in this wall there was such a ventilation shaft, closed with a grille, yeah, and from there like this, you know how... the steam was coming out, i felt like these dull knocks, some sounds, something fell there, yes, and i became interested in what was there, i took this ball, walked around this hall, i went in on the other side, opened the door, just like that, i remember like now, i open
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the door, i just stuck my head in and looked into the gym, and the coach was so menacing, big, yuri kurbanov, he once threw me such a look at me, whose girl are you, in such a stern voice, and i was so lost, i said, i’m not a girl, i say, like i’m not a girl, real men are here , look. i still remember the voice, and you ’re running around here with a ball with the girls, you want to become a man? i say, well, yes, i want to, come into the hall, he has this voice, i went into the hall , he says, sit over there, sit in the corner there, i went, quietly sat in the corner with this sword, about an hour and a half training took place, i watched it all, you know, i fell in love with this sport, these were your first impressions when you came to training, children... come to training at 9-10 years old, 2-3 years old with them trainers work to strengthen the general muscular frame. wrestling,
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a very specific sport that requires from a child, first of all, such general physical development, i was such a child, not quite, let’s say, healthy, but i was very fast, nimble, and this always helped me, well, for the first 2-3 years there was a lot of fun in training, this is for us they gave me a ball, we ran on our knees and played rugby, yes, we did exercises for the general physical strengthening of our muscular frame, that is , well, little by little, little by little, you know, they beautifully presented this struggle, any sport requires considerable financial investments, that's who you are helped, there was such a fighter at that time , ali-aliev. a five-time world champion, he worked after sports, headed the republican wrestling federation, and was the head of the republican clinical hospital. and when a new hospital opened in our area, he came to the opening and
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it just so happened that at the same time, the district spartakiad was being held nearby in the gym, where i competed for my second competition. and he came in just to have a look. is still responsible for the fight, to see how the fight is developing in the area, and i’m on it i lose in front of my eyes, i become fourth, but when already sitting bright explained to me what was what, he scolded me, uh, at this time he calls my name, the prize for the will to win, olim selimov receives, and i go to him on these trembling legs, yeah, he hugs me like that, turns me towards people, uh, line up. this one says: alim, you know, he says, you have very good qualities as a wrestler , i tell my older brother, i say, brother, i have a goal in life, he says, what am i saying, i tell him, i will become a world champion , and moving
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belarus, moving to belarus , you know, uh, i had such a period in my life when i, uh, won the dagestan championship among juniors, boys, and i... had to go to the russian championship both in and before that with us there was a gathering, a gathering that took place in podolsk, even though i was the winner of the championship at that time, but for some reason there was no money for me, and i was so offended that day, i came to my friends who worked - for one businessman - in security at that time, after all, the dashing nineties, well, yes - i came, sat down, he says, alim, he’s so sad, i say, guys, i’m tired of everything, one guy from them says to me, listen, he says, alim, come on, he says, you’ll go to belarus,
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he says, my uncle lives there in mozyr, he is a coach, and he called him, he says, uncle malik, listen, he says, there’s a kid sitting next to me, a good, cool guy, maybe you say, look with your professional eye, what will happen to him, what will not happen to him , well listen, he says, but in a week my training starts here, well, he says, i he says, it’s interesting to see him, let him say, he’ll come, well, it’ll work out, it’ll work out, no, well, he’ll go back when it became clear that wrestling is serious, that sport is destiny, it’s a profession, it’s a way to make money, and this is probably it became clear when i already... clearly understood that i was staying in belarus , that there was an opportunity ahead to reach my dream, that
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the state was giving you the opportunity to become a high-class wrestler, a high-class athlete, they were giving you all the conditions, that is, they gave me at that time dormitory. me three times i was fed a day, i was dressed and put on shoes three times a year, medical care, twice a year we underwent an in-depth medical examination. where else could there be such things? i came after dagestan and i already understood that i would stay here, yeah, and this is the place where i can realize myself as an athlete, that’s when this support appeared, yes, yes, i felt that i really need to work here, you two-time world champion, at the same time vanya is the champion of dagestan, there is a youth version there, schoolchildren, schoolchildren, yes, borussia is also the champion title, which of your victories is the most significant and
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memorable for you? and this is the last world championship, i can firmly say, uh, when i won the world championship in 2011, uh, in fact, i had a very difficult time then in all plans, there was a small incident at the competition, let’s say, i got into a fight , it was...' a deliberate provocation on the part of the second, although i had no complaints against my opponent on the mat, but this is such a purposeful provocation of the second, i understand that his student is losing, and when i was disqualified, only my first coach and my personal trainer were next to me and my friend, who said olim, the world olympic games are ahead, and i
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worked. with my coach, with igor petrenko, i probably haven’t worked so hard in my life this year, i did a crazy job, to say that i went confident that i would win the world championship would probably be a lie, the final fight, where i was 2 i lose seconds, snatch victory from the pole, and i become world champion, mm, i guess i knelt then and... i i say: lord, almighty, thank you for everything, and raised my finger up, and what is more difficult is to prepare for victory being. a famous athlete or retain the title by becoming
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a champion? of course, it’s more difficult to hold back, because they study you, they dissect you into small details, people hone in on you, they probably develop certain elements and tactics for you, of course, every competent coach, personal trainer will clearly select for his opponent. opponent of his student a specific plan, as i had with my coach, i never compete i didn’t know in 15 minutes who i would continue to fight with, the coach comes and says: you are with the kyrgyz, against kyrgyz, we have already taken the kyrgyz to pieces, we already know how to fight him, i receive the latest instructions from the coach in 5- 10 minutes and you go out, and if i find out this... in the evening, as it was before , well, yes, i didn’t sleep at night, i fought with them in my sleep,
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with everyone in my thoughts, the test of victory, glory - this is also quite difficult, have you experienced this yourself? yes, after the first world championship, of course, i always refer to my youth, inexperience, uh, yes, you’re young, you’re single, you have opportunities, financial opportunities, temptations. temptations appear, and yes, of course, it’s very difficult to resist, uh, i can’t say that i just resisted, resisted, no, there were misfires, uh, well, thank god that i was probably next to me my girlfriend, now she’s already my wife, uh, with whom we met before the world championships, well, let’s just say, i was able to mobilize, i was able to... clearly direct all
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my energy, thoughts, work in the right direction, but not without, there was an error, you are double world champion, to be a world champion is difficult, but to be a two-time champion is probably doubly more difficult, but probably doubly more enjoyable and of course these moments of glory are pleasant, was your retirement from the sport difficult for you? you know, no, because at that time, i was supported by a person to whom i am grateful at that period of my life, and who, by his example, made me understand and understand the meaning
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of friendly relations, and they supported me, i was smoothly transferred from the athlete’s channel , uh, first, the channel of small commerce, and then again the channel of a sports functionary, and of course, your desire to learn new things, your desire to learn, realizing that you, well , what’s wrong, are uneducated in some aspects, where you need to catch up with learning, where you need to. to give knowledge, why did i, in principle, go to study at a higher school, economics in moscow, but because this is already a conscious choice, you don’t need a crust here anymore, you need knowledge, you’ve already found yourself in a society where you no longer live according to the rules of sports , there are completely different rules here,
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life is more cruel, and at what points you miss sports life most of all, you know, i probably don’t... i miss it, i probably miss those moments, i would say, and the adrenaline rush after a victory, it’s an indescribable feeling, a feeling of victory, a feeling, understanding , that you are better in the world, uh, that you are stronger on the planet, come back now training camp, yes, it was a lot of fun, a lot of stories, because you live in a large male group 300 days a year, well, serious men are like that and constantly traveling, constant fees, this is the road, these are the trains, airplanes, buses,
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of course, it’s moments like this that i probably no, i don’t miss, but this is probably the program is completed and the page is closed, probably, right? another stage of life, where you are already such a creator, creating in our favorite sport, i will say so, today i pay back my debt, working as the chairman of the belarusian wrestling federation, i pay back my debt to that work, to that sport that made me a man, thanks to wrestling , i probably acquired many qualities of my character, and i
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probably consider them correct, masculine, here are a few words about the current stage, yes, you left, finished your sports career, but did not leave sports, you head the federation of wrestling, adrenaline, this very thing, it has become less in your life, you know, i already get it in a different way, a couple days ago, the world championship ended, among youth under 23, where we had five medals, and you know, at such moments, the adrenaline rush is crazy, when you are sitting, time is ticking, the score is even, your heart is generally beating. pulse, i don’t know, it’s going through the roof, you’re sitting next to this tv, i, unfortunately, couldn’t fly, it took place in albania in tirana and you are already sitting with bated breath, now you don’t separate slaves, nor classics, not greco-roman wrestling, i’ll probably be disingenuous if i say that, uh,
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it’s still a little warmer in my heart greco-roman wrestling, i missed this sport through myself, and of course it is closer to me. but today i worry about everyone, for all three species, but the dependence on victory or the focus on winning, it remains, yes, of course, on a larger scale, on a larger scale, and you want more, and you get one gold medal, yes, of course, it’s cool, but when you have a medal, you want a gold medal here, and a gold medal here in with the girls with the guys with freestyle wrestlers with greco-roman wrestling, because you understand, this is for today day, this is the place where you give your soul, i love this sport, i love that job.
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this deserves respect, well, you know, in general, we are a public organization, because every public organization, and with enormous support from the state, is unthinkable to work without the state, and we understand and honor this, we appreciate this, each sport is based on certain individuals, people. and it’s good when a very interested person comes to this or that sport, who is passionate about it, who wants to promote, who wants to create something new, who has a dialogue with coaches, not a monologue, but a dialogue that will pass through himself , listening to problems, of course, it’s very difficult to grasp the vastness, but here, this is a different story, where you need to build a clear vertical, the sport is already in the regions, that is, what we are gradually moving towards, i
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i know that you have another hobby, you draw, it’s been a hobby since childhood, but you know, i haven’t been drawing lately, yes, it’s been since childhood, i really loved drawing, i went to art school and music school at the same time, i really wanted to learn how to play the drums, but this is a drum, i don’t understand, not with sticks, that’s our national name. back and forth, well , in an instant, accidentally getting into the section, opening the door slightly, into the hall of the freestyle wrestling section, i stayed there, as a rule, all caucasian men they cook beautifully, you are no exception, i absolutely do not go near the kitchen stove at home, the only thing i can do is probably breakfast, i have my own signature scrambled eggs, which i make there, and somehow they
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call it shakshuka, and they call it that, but mine is a little different, and sometimes my children ask me, my wife asks me, critili, maybe you can make your own scrambled eggs, that’s all i do at home today, but i like to fry meat, the only thing we haven’t touched on is family , i know that you have a spouse and two children, your wife, somehow she too connected with sports, how did you meet her, you know, we met by chance in gomel, just walking through the fields, i saw a beautiful person, i wanted to meet her, we have two wonderful children, a son is 10 years old, a daughter is 15, these are the average statistics. do you preserve some
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traditions of your people in family life? and of course, the family should know its history, i always say, a tree without roots dries very quickly, so we, my daughter, should know why her name is telnara, and not natasha, for example, yes, the boy should know why his name is karim, not leonid. “they will ask themselves questions, and if i introduce them to customs , traditions, my origins, although their homeland is belarus, they were born in belarus, but at every opportunity i take them to dagestan, i introduce them in general to the nature of dagestan , with the history of dagestan, with brothers, sisters, cousins, family ties are very important for us, alim, and are you a strict father? yes, i am a very strict father at home, this comes from my brother, and well , probably, some kind of imprint has developed,
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probably , i raise them in this, hedgehog i hold them in my sleeves, whether my daughter or my son, but fair, but fair, son, this is a man, in the end, after all, so i always tell him, karim, be a man, and i explain what it means to be a man. you see, and life is difficult, now, a different life, children will still not be what we want, so among all these temptations there must be those qualities, those valuable advice that are passed on to us from generation to generation, our traditional question that i i ask all the guests, what is
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the meaning of life for you? you know the meaning of life, until a certain period, i had only one meaning in life, to become a world champion, today another goal appears in our life, meaning too, a family appears, the meaning of life is to make them happy, to be useful, not just to live your life, but to be useful to society, to leave behind some trace of myself, i believe that the meaning of life is what we pass on to our children, and this is upbringing. raising your children and being useful to the people who surround you, thank you very much, thank you, this was the meaning of alim selimov’s life.
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