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for many more, everything here is right for us. alexander nikolaevich, good evening, good. the belarusian institute of social research recently reported that parties today, well, do not represent active players in the media field, and the share of publications about parties, and in the general volume, does not exceed half a percent. at the same time, the republican party of labor and justice, well, let’s say to be fair, it is the fourth out of four, according to number of publications about her? well, it’s clear that a sophisticated tv viewer, yes, he knows the expressive, emotional gaidukevich, the reserved and intelligent romanov. obviously, it is time to clearly identify the head of the republican

justice labor party. so this is what alexander is like? nikolaevich khizhnyak. so far these numbers are like this. for now, yes, for now, yes, but this once again suggests that we need to work further, including in the media area. an ordinary person, calm, balanced, open and approachable. in short, of course, okay, i i’ll add to the picture, this is important for me, because when i met yours. for me there are such key points that i emphasized, yes, three sons, yes, three sons , well, really, a father with many children in this case, yes, especially three sons, i really respect men with such a background, yes, a leader, belney urban planning, yes, a former athlete, well, at least you were involved in greco-roman wrestling, yes, you were involved in, in fact, two written dissertations and several

higher educations, well, for me... very close, the fact that jurisprudence was your basic specialty, yes, like mine, well, i won’t use bad language, but once there was such a joke that we are all always getting into something, i can imagine, of course, that you might want to become a lawyer, which is what you did, yes, you can become an astronaut, i can imagine that too , but it’s more difficult for me to become a party leader, that’s how you came to this and how you became a party leader, a party... well, i had to join, since we already we use this term, this expression, i also did not know about parties, but about their specific work in my time, but i was nominated from the party, the republican party of labor and justice , to the minsk city council and i came to it consciously, which means it was necessary to move

from such a public worker. i have repeatedly headed trade union organizations where i worked, so i had to go a little further, i chose this party, so... oddly enough, neither in terms of media coverage, nor in terms of analysis, which means there were no mentions of it, i i chose it by its name, here is the labor of justice, yes, i probably still associate myself with labor in various incarnation, i started at a construction site, on a shovel, so i want to say that, well, this was a conscious choice of the name, but i didn’t think , to be honest, i didn’t think about it, but it so happened that fate led me to this, a certain support from my colleagues , actually

nominated me for this position, in the twenty-second year, in september, the congress supported this proposal, yeah, people elected me, that’s how i became chairman, well , okay, you’ve worked for many years. in urban planning, but for you it’s realistic now, after at least a year has passed party activity, what is more difficult to build, cities or civil society? you know, after all, society is more complicated, yeah, and at least one second process, they are quite difficult, but from the point of view of urbanism, the development of human settlements, there is still no such thing... and you have to open yourself to people, so in civil society, it’s either like this, or you’ll still be left behind, i don’t hide it, this is quite new for me, and it’s not easy

, it’s not easy, but in this regard you need to derive benefits, including benefits, first of all, for yourself, ok, let’s see the question the scientific president touched on this issue, but to the meeting. with party leaders, the ideological platform of liberals, conservatives, communists, well, this is clear and simple, this is the basis of ideologies, in belarus there was once even a party of beer lovers, it also seemed to raise no questions, yes, what unites them, that’s what is the ideological platform of the republican justice labor party today, who would you consider yourself to be, especially in modern realities, and in the world, when... everything

in the world has changed so much that classical, the division of parties according to ideological principles still, in my opinion, does not work so clearly today, we are centrists today, and we have this vector, the centrist vector, but if i say, here’s what... our own sphere, and the head state said that at this stage we must still occupy our niche and find our own specificity, because many still, and this is clear, understand that four parties cannot stand for everything good, against everything bad, and act alone and the same ways, methods, to achieve the same and the common goal is the preservation of the state, its well-being, this is all clear, constructive work, this is our niche specificity, which, i would like to say, today, yes, we are looking for it,

feeling it and so on, but what today we can voice what we are going to people with, we would still like to focus attention on working people, in the entire media agenda there is war, an external factor, the results of the twentieth year, that means, and so on, people, working people , it doesn’t even need to be promoted, it needs to be addressed attention, work is not only a way of life for a person, that is, he is busy, he works, he receives a salary, but work today is also the basis of the economy and the further existence of the state. the second point is justice, you correctly said that justice is not something that is now in trend, but the demand or request for justice, in fact it is huge, in our state,

our people have a request for justice not only as a fair reward for labor, this is fairness in relationships, this justice to the state in principle, including in the international arena, another aspect is responsibility, any political force, and we now have four of them and three have been re-registered, is: after all, the opportunity to take responsibility for the decisions that we we offer both responsibility for what we do in the first place, and one more aspect that we are highlighting now precisely after the work that we carried out during the period of re-registration, preparation for re-registration, today there is

a key resource, and it's not oil. non-natural wealth is people, man, the main resource and the state, including in the economy, in defense, in intelligence, and this resource must be used in a positive way, we will say so, because people are tired of many of the processes that are now taking place, we are even tired of hearing many things , war, war, war, and we want to use it, and we are on this... in this mess, yes, literally recently, there is a year in the first place, i understand, of course, that you are back, and this is the most difficult time, let's to put it bluntly, the conditions that we had no longer exist, but you have very little time, that is, if we are talking about the fact that in just a few months we will have a single day.

then we have the national assembly elections, yes, in any case, in a year and a half, these are already presidential elections, that is, a big election campaign and the most, let’s say, always difficult, this moment, in my opinion, must be taken into account when we we are talking about the fact that you need to look for your niche, well, this is like a remark, yes, but let’s finish this question with a simple one, three cardinal differences vice versa with other political parties? let's start with the general thing, this is constructive work , interaction with the state, these are the legislative conditions for the existence of parties, in general, in principle, we must be guided by the law. i agree, what distinguishes us, this really, in my opinion, can be singled out as a difference, we are still focused on the person, probably somewhere even more than ours.... other colleagues, specifically on the person labor, per

person employed, per person who brings benefit, wants to benefit state, this is probably the most key feature now, because i would not like to go into an academic discussion here about the ideology of other political parties, but we consider this to be special, okay, look, like a person who is professionally involved in urban planning? i want to ask. so, today the party landscape of belarus consists of four parties. thank god, yes, that the couch parties are gone, is this infrastructure enough, yes, for a healthy society, are these building blocks enough for the stability of the political field of the state? well, firstly, the opportunity to stay in this political field. many received. another

question is whether the subjects of this political field took advantage of the opportunity. that is, there was time. there was time. and if we, taking into account the difficult processes, frankly speaking, that took place here, we were able to re-register. well, you can have a different attitude towards those who simply did not submit the document, did not follow up. appropriate work, but nevertheless, it so happened that this landscape has been formed, and at this stage of the formation of political system, in terms of the institution, the party institution, well, it has developed that way, yeah, and there are four political parties operating in the legal field, okay, that’s enough, it’s hard to say, now we will do everything to make our

work and ours useful in this part and to form this is a political field, because for a long time no one was involved in party building, at this stage perhaps this is enough, perhaps, but what was behind the facade of many public associations and parties? you and i saw this in 1920, so belarusians paid a lot for this... can we say that we have completely deprived the collective west of the mechanisms of hybrid influence within the country, through these ngos and parties? well, as for parties, the possibility of receiving funding from outside is excluded, the sources of funding for the activities of parties are clearly defined. well, as for ngos,

the form is like this, well, invented in order to meet certain demands of society, and these requests were social projects. perhaps somewhere direct cooperation, indirect and influence came through this, this of course, and we understand that one of the tasks of the party is to occupy this niche, and this niche has become vacant, in terms of interaction with the population, that’s it, they continue to probe us, they continue to examine us for appropriate opportunities, but judging by the statements made by the leaders of four political parties, we are no exception, we are saying that we exclude the possibility of financing us from other sources not provided for by law; by the way, i want to say that one of our proposals for the meeting with the head of state was about

the formation of a different mechanism, access to projects, political parties. and public associations, so that this mechanism is competitive, with appropriate specialization, and we consider this mechanism as, among other things, a way to highlight the specifics of each of the political forces, because everyone is in search, believe me, everyone is in search , well, you said so generally, what kind of mechanism is this, the grant principle, including, it can be, it can be, for starters, organizational. principle, well, you, but it does not exclude the grant principle, including with the mechanism of state financing , well, this practice exists in many countries, but it is absolutely worked out, i agree, alexandrich, firstly, regarding the financing of the party, yes, i think

, i am deeply convinced that there is a concept of treason, yes, no matter how highly we speak , no matter how pretentious it may sound, but financing from abroad never brings... benefits to the state itself and should be equated specifically if you take other people's money for in order to work after the state, that means you are an enemy, that means you are just an agent, that means you will simply be asked for something, that means that the one who pays the money, he orders, has the opportunity to demand something in return, and without this he will demand, this fact, but uh, for me a very important beacon was the position of public people, deputies. officials, media persons, in general, and in 2020 , at that time, well, let’s be honest, there was rather stagnation in your party, well, that is, where it was necessary to give a shoulder to the state, well, sort of it turned out that there were a few provisions, yes, then there was a change of leader, in fact

, you headed the party in 1922 , that is, there was finally consolidation, definitely an understanding of what you should do, but do you consider re-registration a second chance for the party? you see, i still want to speak a little more deeply in this part, in the twentieth year, the republican justice labor party nominated a lot of people in the election commission, nominated its representatives as observers in electoral process. many of the party members headed the election commissions, yeah, and i will note this fact that your humble servant also headed the largest election commission in the republic, this is the frunzinsky district,

and we were also where the country needed support, and many did a good job, i ... you understand, i know this, i, i wouldn’t like to discuss this topic now, but it affected me and my family, including, and i want to say that there was indeed stagnation in the sphere of party management, you can differently to evaluate why this was, whoever i want to say is that this year, the year

of re-registration of the party, is 30 years old. and by the deputies of the house of representatives, deputies of local councils, those who remained in a constructive position, a decision was made to preserve the party, that is, it was not accidental, not an accidental coincidence of circumstances that here we wanted to somehow go for re-registration, this there was work in anti-crisis... conditions, in anti-crisis conditions, we consolidated, and before the congress of the twenty-second year, we wanted to understand ourselves but does the country need this party in principle, and what should we do with it next? we, those who associated ourselves with the republican party of labor and justice, who were nominated from it, who worked, representing the interests of the state, including... taking into account our party affiliation, and having toured the regions twice, we realized that there is certain

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set by the president, it is also historical, to unite and consolidate society, and this is like a task for the parties, including, this is how you, for your part, approached this not the most we intend to approach a simple task, the same event from which we started, studying the opinion of the population. we named it, so to speak, associating, among other things, with our name, work, justice, responsibility, and with over time, we realized that we would continue this action, saturating it, well, that is, a cycle , so to speak, and you know, this helped not only to popularize, because many people really do not feel the difference between a public association.

some kind of interest group, a club or a political party, and really not much has been done to ensure that these... these segments even convey to people their opportunity, but now look what is now on the field of civil society - in fact, you want to engage in public work, please, public association, there are enough of them, their choice is very wide, in fact, do social work, and there is a demand among people for this, not just volunteering, social projects, over time a person grows in this... and those social activists, who, well, have been doing this all their lives, yes, they will still do this, these people also need to be involved in positive, constructive work, yes, but as soon as you reach the level of coming to power, participating in

elections, first of all, yes, but many, political parties that... not related to beer, there is a second sentence in the charter, as far as i remember, their ideological component, we will not advertise it, it is already there, it no longer exists, but as soon as we enter the political field, this is where the system should work. parties, so i’ll say that this opportunity either existed or didn’t exist, how it was used, well, i almost openly said that our party, in its thirtieth anniversary, knew different periods within our organization and it says it again

that she is not frozen, she is not amorphous, and indeed there are different opinions. internal discussion, it does not stop and will not stop, probably never, we need to generate ideas, we need to attract people, people have the opportunity to come, leave, change their preferences, this is also considered normal, but i still want to say that choice , well, your participation in a political party in its work must be a conscious choice, no, conscious in the first place, that’s why there is a lack of information about us , and you rightly said, a lack of media visibility, recognition, this is also including, well, it was the result of the attitude of society, let’s be honest, yes, we can assume that by the very fact of re-registration, the state has already assessed the viability of your party, including, yes, yes, it’s

the people’s turn, that’s when we talk about society, we ’re talking about , that people need to be interested in good, bad, in any sense, to participate in the work of the party and thereby participate in the consolidation of society , forgive the taftology, yes, i grew up in the ussr, i saw what the ruling party is, and a portbilet, social elevators, but he himself was a party member, i won’t hide the fact that at the age of 19 i joined the communist party, and i’ve kept my passport to this day. i’m not and i’m not even ashamed of this, but for those who today are at the most active age, yes, 35 years old, 40, i ’m not even talking about youth, the party’s saying, here they are, many of them only frown, yes, that’s their youth , childhood, growing up , there was a period of collapse, including the collapse that the situation in

the communist party led to, yes, well, people like me are probably not very needed. image moments, for them these very wrappers, aesthetics, slogans, in any case, yes, they need it, they really need it, that’s how to attract such nihilists into the party ranks, in particular to you , well, let me tell you straight away, don’t let the communists be offended by me, yes, for many they are simply because they are communists for many, the ldp will not suit him, well, it is sometimes associated with his behavior, but with his manner of behavior, may he be blessed, however, this is a man who has now turned out to be a prophet of many events, but still, someone simply doesn’t want to, because so. you are still such, you know, a gray horse, which does not have these negative signs, only the absence of a negative

background may be interesting, but still. well, since we have already touched on the historical topic, i stopped my path in the soviet period on the pioneers. that is, i am not familiar with what happened in the komsomol, for example, and further , but since we have already mentioned all this, i will still say, again no offense to the communists, but the past is still the past, there is no way without it, the boy writes an essay and asks his grandfather, grandfather, were you a communist? grandfather thought and says: not a grandson, i was a member of the party, for some reason i

remember this, and why i remember it, but because now, probably, because i had to deal with this area, you know, a person who is simply a member of the party, this does not mean that he is also in this process, yeah. and history, why i’ll start, i’ll start with this, history has shown that it is impossible to build a political system by merging the state apparatus with the party apparatus into one de facto political force. and now we have there is a choice. and i want to draw your attention again. and this will be relevant for absolutely everyone, after all, we need a conscious person, in all aspects, in those issues that the head of state raised in terms of

party discipline, so he named these three components, yes, discipline, an attractive idea and professionalism , yes, that you need inconvenient, but professional personnel, so which of these three segments is decisive for you. well, for us, the defining ones now at this stage of our development, there are three of them, in fact, this is definitely the party we associate discipline and professionalism with personnel, because we know what is happening on and not only in the labor market, but with personnel in general, and we highlight one more aspect, which i also spoke to the head of state, this is constructive.

the party must be able to convey the opinion of the people, accumulate it, concentrate it and convey this opinion, we must be heard, therefore , moving to nihilism, you know, someone who is initially nihilistic, in principle, will not enter into this process public, public association, and not into any political party , it’s as if his own ideology forbids him, but practice shows that with good, kind deeds you can involve a fairly large number of people in the process, and people look not only at... the party itself, they ask people, and for me it was one of these franknesses, but

we haven’t gone to the regions for more than 7 years, and what was the result, and while traveling around the regions, we talked with people, it wasn’t just me, it was our whole team , it’s quite big, and we only have 11 deputies are represented in parliament, this is quite a large number , i think we were surprised that this aspect, it even had a very strong impact on the attitude towards us, it turns out that in order to raise awareness and so on, we also need to reach out to people , you can’t just go out to people now, information field, analytics. and the plurality of opinions, uh, requires professionalism, for example, for me, the fact that i, uh, is connected with the development of territories,

with urban planning, this, for example, helped me very seriously, yes, of course, this one of the issues that is important to people is comfortable living, the development of territories in principle, their maintenance of these territories , villages, cities, urban things, this... in any case is related to working with people, for example, it helps me, but, but you have to go out to people, and just like that , now you can’t go out with populism, with young people, with young people, in general it doesn’t work out that way, and if you initially build your explanations, your attitude to the matter, yes, just talking about that what are you doing there, come to us, come on, we are here such, such, such, you know, this has not passed for a long time, it did not pass when the greatest party, the greatest party, it collapsed, so... which were, because

it became formal, so we are not chasing membership, ok, we’re not chasing, that’s normal, professionalism and conviction are like two essential qualities that without which you can’t convince people, right, so how many supporters do you have now according to the data with which we went out for re-registration, on the date of receiving the certificate. we stated 6,626 people. well, according to the textbook, the task of any party is the struggle for power. yes , in our country, thank god, i will express my opinion, this has transformed to a certain extent into a struggle for the support of the authorities, including the authorities, the people and the president, right? and it is right. against this background, you plan to actively nominate your members to parliament, just in a few months.

of course, firstly, the legislation says that the party has clear goals, and one of them, one of this is probably the most key task, is participation in the electoral processes, and we will nominate our candidates to parliament, to the house of representatives, you have defined some criterion for yourself, you know, we are now represented in parliament by 11 people, yeah. well, of course, we would like to preserve this achievement, because well, we have to try no less, try no less, yes, well, this will depend on our work, among other things, and what we will go out to people with, and we are leading now work on the definition of candidates, which we will nominate, but i hope there will be no, we at least they are geared towards working in this

direction. well, local councils of deputies traditionally, we have always had quite strong positions there, we will also carry out this work, but participation in elections, after all, is not only candidates, of course, participation in elections, i will say that this is that segment , the segment that allows political force to draw conclusions about the place and role of itself in this system, why? or you participate in processes and then you have the opportunity to convincingly convey your position and to see how these processes take place to manage these processes, but this is also a good personnel school for many, because you know, not everyone, i will say that even a leader can

reach out to people, but this is... the media of society, this is an opportunity to hear society including getting information that you will never get from statistics, people will tell you everything as it is, especially young people, and i am still sure that the role of political parties will increase, and this is probably another aspect that state. must be used in order to consolidate society, yes , i absolutely agree with what the state is using, you know, alexander nikolaevich, maybe, as an old portocrat, i’ll scratch the surface a little, yes, i understand perfectly well that an election campaign, any one, is the main litmus test for the viability of the party, because not to take advantage of the opportunity to participate in the work of election commissions, in the work of observers, and they have certain powers. they can also then

express their opinion about how all this passed, and this was often simply not enough, when the rpts, a member of the rpts, yes, a member of the political council there or a deputy or a leader, will sound, then the brand itself will begin to play, and when, if not in the election processes, but on this, well, come out, gently speaking, leaving, this is the most real opportunity, and the closest one, but you know, i still don’t understand, a little bit, but as a lawyer, you are a lawyer, let’s talk in legal language, the party has enormous capabilities for legislative initiative, yes, and even more so about the bodies in parliament , for example, why do they so rarely, almost never, use this right, opportunity, including the opportunity , excuse me, to make their voices heard, which prevents, for example,

our parties from initiating an urgent bill, an urgent bill, on the institution of foreign agents, or the settlement of an artificial one. lecta, and we will get this problem in twenty, we already have it now , i don’t even doubt it, or any other law, any other that is pressing, that is important now, you know, really such a practice, such a practice history of belarus, well, i can’t give examples when it was the party that actually came up with the subject: legislative initiative, but here we still need to touch on the mechanism a little, we have a very clearly defined list of subjects of legislative initiative, and the party can do this through

its own representatives , including in parliament, this is a way to show your, this is a way to show your work, of course, but i want to say that members of our party represented in the house of representatives are actively involved in working on bills, this is the labor code, which was considered in the commission on labor and social issues, the chairman of the commission, lyudmila kananovich, deputy chairman zhana stativka is actively involved in this, i would also like to note the commission on housing policy and construction, deputy chairman oksana gaiduk, work on the code of architectural urban planning activities , this is a powerful document, and i want to say that our colleagues took an active part, yes, having such an experience resource, you can

use it, alexander nikolaevich, well the extreme, unfortunately, is about a philosophical question, when we say party, if we abstract from the political and bias. this is a chess game and even a successful alliance, this is a profitable party, yes, that’s what they say about worthy elected representatives, but if you imagine any political party as a profitable alliance, then which belarusians can be called a profitable party for building a strong civil society, you know, these ... people should at least be indifferent to what is happening in general, because a person who does not have his own opinion of the position, yes, he will not be able to present it, including, a person’s position

is important, a lot is said about patriotism, but in my opinion, such a well-worn term today, a person’s external actions do not always indicate that he is a patriot, this is also a brand that has recently discredited itself a little, pseudo, including patriotism, yes, but for us, in addition to caring, yes, it’s still a person