or force by force, i’m afraid there is no other choice,” khodorkovsky wrote on twitter, you, dear monster, answered him in a comment. mikhail borisovich, come to the barricades, lead the protest, otherwise they somehow showed up in kiev, and then the hut is on the edge. move to belarus, help. here we also remember the story of olga kovalkova in a loud prank by the tv news agency and her shameful confession that if she came to power, she would sell naftan and mozyr to an influential oligarch for virtually nothing, everything she likes, for example, khodorkovsky, for what financing a political campaign, of course, which would be covered up by the same cliched freedom of democracy, a simple understandable scheme for dividing the country; it would be the same with tikhanovskaya. and at the moment we are talking about processes such as privatization, not today, in the sense in belarus , but, naturally, when you come to power, if you are interested in something specific, then you need to talk about this specific thing, that is, as if you are interested in a specific enterprise, like a large business. at

which certainly also has an interest, our boss, also wanted to participate in that privatization process, and given the belarus that will be built with your participation, well, in particular, interest in the petrochemical industry, yes, i understand that too, with such a background it was a sin not to work in ukraine. khodarkovsky is closely connected with rinat akhmetov, one of the main oligarchs who worked through the smart-hoding company and the german gerhard frank rieger. rieger was introduced through the dutch company metinvest. she belonged to akhmetov, owned azovstal plant. the german represented the interests of a shareholder who wished to remain anonymous. through him, they organized an additional issue of class b shares. these are securities with increased voting rights and value. thus, the mysterious investor became an important part of the company. coincidence number one: rieger

appeared at the corporation literally a couple of days after the first meeting between akhmetov and khodorkovsky. coincidence number two: rigger worked with the oligarch in moscow throughout the nineties; in 2002 he became the financial director of the yukos company. everything indicates that rieger has become khodarkovsky’s personal confidant, one of a dozen close associates. even his colleagues from top management did not know what the chief financial officer actually did and what assignments he carried out. however, subsequently voktya. year, a man with the same name, gerhard frank-rieger, appears in european companies associated with khodarkovsky, in estonia and the czech republic. for example, since 1914, frank rigger was on the board of directors of the czech fao. it was through fao that khodorkovsky paid money to the russian opposition, primarily to alexey navalny and representatives of the parnas party. in 2015, the equivalent of 40 million rubles passed through fao accounts to support projects of the non-systemic opposition. it also provided funding

for open russia and its electoral project , open elections. apparently the investigators tore his kidneys, and khodorkovsky, perhaps for the first time in his life, felt a new feeling for himself, he was abandoned. he invested $10 million in the construction of luxury housing in kiev. the construction was frozen, and the oligarch’s company is a candidate for sanctions. after all, he earned his money, which he managed to withdraw from russia, in russia, and that means it needs to be blocked. karma, that's what it is. and another parallel with the belarusian events, khodorkovsky also wanted to create a government in exile and it also turned out to be nothing, but it seems the story does not end there. in september, he traveled around the united states, where he was essentially given a blank check to work with fbk, navalny’s foundation, so that the media lured by the west and the frontman himself will probably appear closer to spring and our elections, and then the russian ones, and will not bother anyone in the west, that the disgraced businessman has blood up to his elbows, i hope

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alexander nikolaevich, good evening, good, the belarusian institute of social research recently reported that parties today, well, do not represent active players in the media field, and the share of publications about parties, yes, in the general population, it does not exceed half a percent, while the republican party of labor of justice, well, let’s say for the sake of fairness: it is the fourth out of four in terms of the number of publications about it, well, it is clear that a sophisticated tv viewer, yes, he knows the expressive emotional gaidukevich, the reserved intelligent romanov . obviously, it is time to clearly identify

the head of the republican justice labor party. so this is what alexander nikolaevich khishzhnyak is like? so far these numbers. such, bye, yes, bye, yes, but, this once again speaks of that we need to work further, including in the media direction, an ordinary person , calm, balanced, open and accessible, briefly, of course, okay, i’ll add, yes, the picture, this is important for me, because when i meet your biographies, for me there are such key points that i emphasized, yes, three sons, three sons, well, really a father of many children in this case, and even more so three sons, i really respect men with such a background, yes, the head of belnia, urban planning , yes, former athlete, well at least you were involved in greco-roman wrestling, yes, you were involved in, in fact, two

written dissertations and several higher educations, well, for me it is very close that jurisprudence was your basic specialty, yes, like mine. well, i won’t use foul language, but there was once a joke that we were all always getting into something, i imagine, of course, that you might want to become a lawyer, what did you do, right? you can become an astronaut, i can imagine that too, but it’s more difficult for me to become a party leader, that’s how you came to this, and how you became party leader, i, well, had to join the party, since we already use this term, this expression, i also did not know about parties, about their specific work at one time, but i was nominated from the party, the republican party of labor of justice. and i came to it consciously, which means it was necessary to move from

such a public worker, i have repeatedly headed trade union organizations where i worked, so i had to go a little further, i chose this party, oddly enough, neither in terms of media coverage , not according to analysis, which means some... mention about it, i chose it by name, this is the work of justice, yes, and i probably still associate myself with labor in various forms, i started setting up, on a shovel, so i want to say that well, this is a conscious choice by name, but i didn’t think, to be honest, no matter how it sounds, i didn’t think that i would become the chairman of this party, i didn’t think about it. but it so happened that fate led me to this, a certain

support from my comrades, actually nominated me for this position, in the twenty-second year, in september, the congress made this proposal supported, yeah, people elected me, that’s how i became chairman, okay, you worked in urban planning for many years, yes, for you it’s realistic now, after a year, at least what is more difficult to build cities or civil society? you know, after all, society is more complex, and at least one second process, they are quite difficult, but from the point of view of urbanism, the development of human settlements, there is still no such level of media presence, and you must open yourself to people, in civil society , it's either like this

or you will still be left behind, i don’t hide it, this is quite new for me, and it’s not easy, it’s not easy, but in this regard you need to extract benefits, including benefits first of all for yourself, okay, let’s see the pressing question the president touched on this issue , yes to meetings with party leaders, the ideological platform of liberals and conservatives. communists, well, this is clear and simple, this is the basis of yes, ideologies, in belarus there was once even a party of beer lovers, it also did not seem to raise questions, yes, what unites them, that’s what ideological the platform today is that of the republican party of labor of justice, who would you consider yourself to be, especially in modern realities, and world ones, when the word justice, well , let’s be honest, in the west it has become a rudiment.

everything in the world has changed so much that the classical division of parties according to ideological principles, in my opinion, does not work so clearly today, we are centrists today, and we have this vector, the centrist vector, but if i say, this is what now we are focusing our attention, and our sphere, and... the state said that at this stage we still must occupy our niche and find our own specificity, because many still, and this is evident, understand that four parties cannot stand for everything good and against everything bad , and to act in the same ways , methods, to achieve the same goals, the common goal is the preservation of the state, its ... state, this is all clear, constructive work, this is our specific niche, about which, here i would like

to say, today, yes, we are looking for her, we are feeling and so on, but what can be voiced today is what we are going out to people with, we would still like to focus on working people, in everything, including the media agenda, there is war, an external factor, results twentieth... year, that means, and so on, people, people, work , it is not only necessary to promote it, it is necessary to pay attention to it, work is not only as... a way of human life, that is, he is busy, he he works, he receives a salary, but today labor is the basis of the economy and further existence states. the second point is justice, you correctly said that justice is not something that is now in trend, but the demand or request for justice,

in fact it is huge, in our state, our people, there is a demand for justice not only as a fair reward for work, this is justice in relationships , this is justice to the state in principle , including in the international arena, another aspect is responsibility, any political force, and we now have four and three of them re-registration is still an opportunity to take responsibility for the solutions that we offer and responsibility for what we do in the first place. and there is one more aspect that we are highlighting now precisely after the work that we carried out - during the period of re-registration, preparation for re-registration. today there is a key resource, and it is not oil, non-natural

wealth, it is people, people, the main resource. and the state, including in economy, in defense, in intelligence, and this resource must be used in a positive way key, we will say this, because people are tired of many of the processes that are happening now, they are even tired of hearing many things: war, war, war, and we want to use it, and we are building our program on this now, but we are building it, it’s not it means that we are done, we are looking for... our niche and trying to set it up like this, marin krimarka, firstly, i understand, of course, that you got into this mess, yes, just recently, a year ago there, and this is the most difficult time, let's be honest, we no longer have the conditions that we had, but you have very there is not enough time, that is, if we are talking about the fact that literally in a few months

we have a single voting day, then we have the national assembly elections, yes, we have in any case in... this is already a presidential election, that is, a big election campaign, and the most, let’s say, difficult one is always, this point, in my opinion, must be taken into account when we talk about the fact that you need to look for your niche, well, this is like a remark, yes, but let’s finish this question with a simple one: three cardinal differences on the contrary with other political parties, let's start with the general, this is constructive work, interaction with the state, this is a legislative condition for the existence of parties, in general, in principle, the law must be guided by, i agree, what distinguishes us, this really, in my opinion, can be singled out as a difference, we are still focused on the person, probably somewhere even more than our other

colleagues, namely on the working person, on the busy person, on the person who... brings benefit, wants to benefit the state, this is probably the most key peculiarity now, because i wouldn’t like to go into an academic discussion about the ideology of other political parties here, but we consider this to be our peculiarity, okay, look, like a person professionally involved in urban planning, i want to ask, so, today the party landscape of belarus - these are four parties, thank god, yes , that the armchair parties have left, is this infrastructure enough, yes, for a healthy society, are these building blocks enough for the stability of the political field of the state? well, firstly, the opportunity to stay in this political field, and many received it.

another question is whether the subject of this political field took advantage of the opportunity, that is, there was time, there was time, and if we, taking into account the difficult processes, frankly speaking , that took place here, were able to re-register, well, we can treat those who i simply did not submit documents, did not carry out the corresponding work, but nevertheless it so happened that this landscape was formed here... at this stage of the formation of the political system in part institution of the party institution, but it has developed that way, yeah, there are four operating in the legal field. political parties, okay, that’s enough, it’s hard to say, now, we will do everything so that our work and our

activities are useful in this part and form this political field, because for a long time no one has been involved in party building, at this stage, perhaps this is enough, perhaps, but what was behind the façade? many public associations and parties, you and i saw this in 1920, the belarusians paid very dearly for this stucco and tinsel, can we say that we have completely deprived the collective west, the mechanisms of hybrid influence within the country, through these ngos and parties, well, as for the parties.

then the possibility of receiving funding from outside is excluded, the sources of funding for the activities of parties are clearly defined, well, as for ngos, the form is this , well, invented in order to meet certain demands of society, and these requests were social projects, perhaps direct cooperation somewhere, indirect and influence went through it, that's for sure. and we understand that one of the party’s tasks, among other things, is to occupy this niche, and this niche has become free, here, here in terms of interaction with the population, that’s it, they continue to probe us, they continue to probe us for appropriate opportunities, but judging by the statements made by the leaders of four political parties, we are no exception, that we exclude the possibility of financing us from other sources not provided for by law, and by the way, i want to say that one

of our proposals at the meeting with the head of state were in terms of the formation of a new mechanism, access to projects, political parties, and public associations, so that this mechanism would be competitive, and we consider this mechanism as, among other things, a way highlight the specifics of each of the political forces, because everyone is in search, believe me, everyone is in search, well, you said so generally, what kind of mechanism is this, the grant principle, including, it can be, it can be for a start and organizational principle, well, you, but it is not completely excluded. including with the mechanism of state financing, well, this practice exists in many countries , and it is absolutely proven, i agree, alexander, firstly, regarding the financing of the party, yes, i believe, i am deeply

convinced that there is a concept of treason , yes, no matter how highly we speak , no matter how pretentious it may sound, but financing from abroad never benefits the state itself, and should be equated specifically if you take other people’s money for in order to work after the state, it means you are an enemy, it means you are just an agent, they will ask you for something, it means that the one who pays the money has the opportunity to demand something in return, and without this he will demand it, this is a fact, but for me, a very important beacon was the position of public people, deputies, officials, media figures, in general, and in 2020, at that time... well, let’s say there was rather stagnation in your party, well, that is , there, where it was necessary to give a shoulder to the state, well, as it turned out, there were a few provisions, yes, then there was a change of leader,

in fact, you headed the party in 22, that is, consolidation has finally arrived , a certain understanding of what you should do, but you consider re-registration a second chance for the party, you see, i still want... in this part, probably, to speak a little more deeply, in the twentieth year, the republican party of labor and justice nominated a lot of people in the election commission, nominated its representatives as observers in the election process, many of the party members headed the election commissions. yeah, and i will note this fact that your humble servant headed the largest election commission in the republic, this is the frunzinsky district,

and we. we were also there where the country needed support, and many did a good job, i will say that this requires a positive assessment, and i consider it positively, but you fully accept what bullying is, you understand, i know this, i would not like this the topic is now to be discussed, but it affected me and my family, including, i want to say that there was indeed stagnation in the sphere of party management, you can assess differently why it was, who was the reason, why it didn’t work out, and so on, i only want to say that this year, the year of the party’s re-registration, 30 years, and deputies... of local councils, those who

remained in a constructive position, a decision was made to preserve the party, that is, it was not an accident, it was not a coincidence that we wanted to somehow go for re-registration, it was work in anti-crisis conditions, in anti-crisis conditions, we consolidated and before the congress of the twenty-second year, we wanted to understand for ourselves whether this party was needed by the country in principle, and what to do with it next, we, those who associated ourselves with the republican party of labor of justice, who nominated from it, who worked, representing

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what a beauty. i haven't had breakfast, so i can't wait to get started. mashenka, salt and pepper please, sauce, after dressing the salad, and when you have done it, please cut the fish, very interesting, how to choose quality thyme? first of all, pay attention to the packaging, it must be airtight. don’t forget about invigorating exercises, push yourself out of this position upward, lifting your pelvis and stretching the entire front line of your body. you need to try to jump on your full foot on bent knees in order to protect the knee joint. watch the breakfast of the champion program on the belarus 24 tv channel . look, the meeting with the president is the first in this format in many years, and i would say

it’s even somewhat historic. before and there was no one to talk to before, i mean in the compartment, the task set by the president, it is also historical, to unite and consolidate society, and this is for parties as well, that’s how you on our part , we intend to approach this not the simplest task. the event from which we started, studying the opinion of the population, we called it, so to speak, associating, among other things, with our name, work, justice, responsibility, and over time we realized that we would continue this. saturating it, well, that is, a cycle , so to speak, yes, and you know, it helped not only to popularize, because many people really don’t feel the difference between a public association, a group of some kind

according to interests, there are clubs and a political party, and really, much has not been done to ensure that these segments, even... to convey to people their opportunity, but now look that now in the field of civil society, in fact, you want to do public work , please, public association, there are enough of them, their choice is very wide, in fact, do social work, and there is a demand among people for this, not just volunteering, social projects, over time a person grows in this part, and those public... which are well they have been doing this all their lives, yes, they will still do this, these people also need to be involved in positive constructive work, yes, but as soon as you reach

the level of coming to power, participating in elections, first of all, yes, but after all, there are many political parties that have ceased to exist. is completely unrelated to beer , there is a second sentence in the charter, as far as i remember, their ideological component, we will not advertise it, it no longer exists, but as soon as we enter the political field, this is where the system of political parties should work. so i’ll say that this opportunity was there or it wasn’t, how it was used, well, i almost openly said that our party, in its thirtieth anniversary, knew different periods within

our organization and it, this once again suggests that it is not frozen , it is not amorphous, and indeed there are different opinions, and the internal discussion does not stop and will not stop, probably never, we need to generate ideas, we need to attract people, people have the opportunity to come, go, change your preferences, this is also considered normal, but i still want to say that the choice, well, of your participation in a political party in its work, must be a conscious choice, no, a conscious choice in the first place, which is why there is a lack of information about us including, and you correctly said, the lack of media exposure, recognition, this, among other things, was the result of the attitude of society, let’s be honest, yes, we can

assume that by the very fact of re-registration, the state has already assessed the viability of your party, including, yes there is a queue people, when we talk about the consolidation of society, we say that people need to be interested, in good, bad, in any sense, in participating in the work of the party and thereby participating in the consolidation of society, excuse the taftology, yes, i i grew up in the ussr, i saw what the ruling party was, and a port card, social elevators, but i myself was a member of the party, i won’t hide it, at the age of 19 i joined the communist party, i still keep the port card , i’m not and i’m not even ashamed of it , but for those who are in the most active today age, yes, 35 years, 40, i’m not even talking about youth, the party saying, here they are, many of them just wince, yes, here they are in their

youth, childhood, growing up, there was a period of collapse, including collapse, to who was led by the situation in the communist party, yes, well, people like me probably don’t really need image moments, for them these very wrappers, aesthetics, slogans, in any case, yes, they need it, they really need it. how can such nihilists be attracted to the party ranks, in particular to you? well let's get straight i will say, let the communists not be offended by me, but for many they are simply because the communists will not join them, for many, the ldp, yes, the liberal democratic party of belarus, well, it is sometimes associated with zhirinovsky, but with his manner of behavior, so be it may he rest in peace, however, this is a man who has now turned out to be a prophet of many events, but still someone simply doesn’t want to because there you are still such,

you know, a gray horse who does not have these negative signs, only the absence of a negative background may be interesting, but still, since we have already touched on the historical topic, i set my path in the soviet period on the pioneers. that is, i am not familiar with what happened in the komsomol, for example, and further, but since we have already mentioned all this, i will still say, again, no offense to the communists, but the past is still the past, without it no way, the boy writes an essay, asks his grandfather, grandfather, were you a communist, grandfather? thought and said: not a grandson, i was a member of the party, for

some reason i remember this, and why i remember, but because now, probably, because i had to deal with this area, you know, a person who is just a member of the party, this does not mean that... he is also in this process, yeah. and history, why, after all, well , i’ll start, i’ll start with this, history has shown that it is impossible to build a political system by merging the state apparatus with the party apparatus of one de facto political force. and we now have a choice. and i want to draw your attention once again, and this... is for absolutely everyone

it will be relevant, after all, we need a conscious person in all situations , in those issues that the head of state raised in terms of party discipline, and so he named these three components, yes, discipline, an attractive idea and professionalism, yes, that we need inconvenient , and professional personnel, so which of these three segments is decisive for you, well, for us... determining now at this stage of our development, there are three of them, in fact, this is certainly a party discipline, we associate professionalism with personnel, because we know what is happening on and not only in the labor market, but with personnel in general, and we highlight one more aspect, which i also told the head of state, this is constructive interaction with the authorities.

people’s opinion, to accumulate it, concentrate it and convey this opinion, we must be heard, so moving on to nihilism, you know, someone who is initially nihilistic or indifferent to this... in principle, he will not join any public, public association , and not to any political party, it’s okay for him i wish my own ideology forbids it, but practice shows that with good deeds you can involve a fairly large number of people in the process, and people look not only at the party itself, they ask people, and for me it was one of these franknesses,

and more than 7 years in regions did not go, and what was the result, and while touring the regions, we talked with people, it was not just me, it was our entire team, it is quite large, and we only have 11. in parliament, this is quite a large number, i think we were we are surprised that this aspect has even had a very strong impact on the attitude towards us. it turns out that in order to raise awareness and so on, you also need to reach people. but now you can’t just go out to people. the information field is analytics, multiple opinions, requires

professionalism. for example, for me, the fact that i am connected with the development of the territory. development of territories in principle, their maintenance of these territories, villages, cities, urban things, this in any case is connected with working with people, for example, i it helps, but, but you have to go out to people, and now you can’t just go out with populism, with young people, with young people. in general, it doesn’t work out that way, and if you initially build your explanations, your attitude to the matter, yes, just saying that you are there, come to us, come on, we are here like this, like this, like this, you know, it doesn’t work for a long time now, this did not happen when the greatest

party, the greatest party, it collapsed, in the keys that were, because it became formal, so we are not chasing for membership, okay, we’re not chasing, that ’s normal, professionalism and conviction are like two integral qualities that without which people can’t be convinced, straight up, so how many supporters do you have now? according to the data with which we went for re-registration, on the date of receipt of the certificate, we declared 6,626 people. well, according to the textbook, the task of any party is the struggle for power. yes, in our country, thank god, i will express my opinion, this has transformed to a certain extent into a struggle for support from the authorities, including authorities, people and president. yes, and that's

right. against this background, you plan to actively nominate your members to parliament, just in a few months. undoubtedly. firstly, the legislation says that the party has clear goals and tasks, and one of them, one of them is probably the most key task, is participation in the electoral processes, and we will nominate our candidates to parliament, to the house of representatives, you we have defined some criterion for ourselves, you know, we are now our representation in parliament 11 people, we would like to preserve this achievement, because well, one person, to try no less, yes, well, this will depend on our work, among other things , and what we will go out to people with, and we are now working on,

definition, and this is probably another aspect that our state should use in order to... consolidate society , yes, what the state uses, i absolutely agree, you know, alexander nikolaevich, i may be like an old portocrat , i’ll scratch the surface a little, yes, i understand perfectly well that it is the election campaign, any one, that is the main litmus test for the viability of the party, because do not take advantage of the opportunity to participate in the work of election commissions, in the work of observers, they have certain powers, they can also express their opinion later. about how all this went and this was often simply not enough, when the rpts, a member of the rpts, yes , a member of the political council there or a deputy or a leader, will sound , then the brand itself will begin to play, and when, if not in the election processes, but on this , well

to leave, to put it mildly, to leave, this is the most real opportunity, and the nearest one, but you know, i still don’t understand a little, but as a lawyer, you are a lawyer, let’s talk in legal language, the party has colossal capabilities for legislative initiative, yes, and even more so having specific figures in specific legislative bodies, in parliament , for example, why so rarely, almost never, do they use this right, the opportunity, including the opportunity, excuse me, to voice what is preventing, for example, to our parties: to initiate an urgent bill on the institution of foreign agents or the regulation of artificial intelligence, and we will get this problem in 25

history of belarus, well, i can’t give examples when a party, well, actually acted as the subject of a legislative initiative, here we still need touch on the mechanism a little, we have a very clearly defined list of subjects of legislative initiative, and the party can do this through its representatives, including in parliament, this is a way to show its work, this is a way to show your work, of course, but i want to say that members of our party, represented in the house of representatives , are actively involved in the work on bills, this is the labor code, which was considered in the commission on labor

social issues, the chairman of the commission, lyudmila kananovich, deputy chairman zhana stativka is actively involved in this, i would also like to mention the commission on housing policy and construction, deputy chairman oksana gaiduk, work on the code of architecture. construction activity, this is the most powerful document, and i want to say that our colleagues took an active part, and yes, having such a resource and experience, you can use it. aleksan nikolavich, well, unfortunately, it’s a philosophical question, when we say a game, if we abstract from the political and bias, this is a chess game. and even a successful union is a profitable party, yes, that’s what they say about worthy elected representatives, but if

you imagine any political party as a profitable alliance, then which belarusians can be called a profitable party for building a strong civil society, you know, these people should be at least minimal. in general to what is happening, because a person who does not have his own opinion, position, right?