[000:00:00;00] security corridor, that's all, people were walking, they were bombed in the cars they were walking, this was the first one that was smashed when they were walking , well, where is all this, who and the whole world knows this, the president is constantly monitoring the situation, he is constantly our leadership is reporting, so evgenia pavlovna, everyone’s task is to pick you up from there as soon as possible. so, every day 24.7 , plane, we won’t go anywhere without you, our child is disabled, 15 years old, he’s in a wheelchair, well, here he is, he doesn’t want to, he’s generally unwilling, he is in a wheelchair, he has cerebral palsy, here we are, it’s hard for us, he, like

us, for example, ran away from home, we tell people when we already have reliable information that we will really go and we will do this, once again instill hope in people and then not justify it, this will be fraught with the possibility that someone may be influenced by this, he will refuse to go out, something may happen to him, to his relatives, more for months our people fought for our people. dear comrades, tomorrow we have an evacuation, everyone should arrive at the checkpoint in 6 am, please pass it on to everyone with whom you have contact. of course, we traveled prepared, because you are driving through the desert, you are going to the desert, people need water, people need some kind of energy-intensive

products, so that at the same time the energy-intensive ones would already feed us right there at the border, they would give us food and water, because we also have problems with water there, they didn’t know water anymore when they distributed water, for example, here today. there was food left over when we were fed at the hotel, and i say, consul, we still have food, and he says, well, that’s all there is left, where is it, i say, i won’t take it with me on the plane, i say, they threw it away, i say, no, because we experienced that we didn’t eat at all and were starving, i will never throw away food in my life, never in my life, because there people even fell into disarray, people fought for water

there, there is a hospital there next to arafam and a health care facility, there is a column of people standing for water, someone comes up, tries in the wrong place to dial, a fight starts, those standing behind intervene, well, in the end, everything, in the end, the water supply stops for a whole day, people are without water, we worked directly at the kbp itself, we met people who come to the kbp, well, what kind of shots can be highlighted, people come in, devastated, devastated people who... who there are no smiles on their faces, no facial expressions, no gestures, they don’t say anything that they have at least some kind of joy, later , when they went through a partial filtration event, when they were already sitting in the waiting room, they understood that they didn't go back they will go, they began to slowly come to the life that they had, the rafah checkpoint, who fled gaza, it didn’t matter what to eat and

drink. where to lie, look at these touching shots, diplomatic issues are being resolved, and the little girl, our girl, is sleeping, who knows, for the first time in how many days, they were saved, they are praying, crying, it would seem, after such a simple question, in response, what do you feel like you were saved, how you left the sector, well, that’s how it is... people cannot move along the gas, they say the humanitarian corridor, go south, people are walking to the south, they are shot at, they are killed, they are stripped completely down to men’s underwear, they are forced to show their people there , well, it’s terrible, you know, someone will be led,

someone will pass, someone will be killed, they were evacuated along with their husband and two more children, their eldest son works in novopolotsk, all are doctors, the couple once graduated together from the vitebsk state order of peoples' friendship, medical university, not far away. and russians, and the fact is that the belarusian, our diplomats, consuls, and the ministry of emergency situations, all, of course, the head of our state, the president, lukashenko, aleksandrich, everything, everything, everything, i thank you very much when here. we passed the checkpoint and saw the belarusian flag, well, we probably saw it, yes, they told us, i just started crying, because, because i didn’t believe it, because it was very difficult, we

had three belarusian flags with us, so that you understand, 9,000 people, about 9-1000 people at the checkpoint rafah are for evacuation, they are trying to get out on the day, the checkpoint is working on about 500 -700 people launching and from these 500 we need to isolate our own, we immediately warned, ours will be flag, we bought a fishing rod, hung our flag on the fishing rod, unfurled it, as if it were there on the street, in addition to this, our employees also placed a flag on the wall there, which hung, people came out and saw, in general, all their stories are similar to one another, all with a belarusian medical education, when the medical profession also became a family business, but each story has its own tragedy, my dacha was destroyed, my car was destroyed, well, my schoolchildren beat on it, my medical center was generally

bombed half, i work from morning until it's late at night, to earn normal money, to provide, well, prestige, good prestige, yes, yes, for my own sake, for my children’s sake, right? but the worst thing about gas is that it buries loved ones. and they believed, believed, in the belarusian state, believed, believed, always, we say , it will save, this is mine, this is, if you ask what nationality, then belarus always, always says yes, and this is grateful, in fact, grateful, president, vp, when we had already taken our people, we decided to move to the hotel, on instructions from the president of the court, a special board flew out, attention, dear passengers, boarding begins for flight 8797, the next one, we ask you to prepare

your boarding passes and passports and board to gate number six. november 16 9:50, this is a special belavia flight, we are flying to cairo together with doctors, psychologists and rescuers. boeing 737,800 at 1080, nine seats, we fly without luggage in the luggage compartment, blankets, warm clothes, things for children, when they fled from hell, they took only them, most importantly, children. belarusians and their families were given 72 hours from the moment they crossed the rafah checkpoint until their departure to their homeland, such were the conditions of cairo. they left the gas on november 15, and on november 16 a humanitarian flight was organized for them. in fact, the flight is uh, regular for us, it’s a job, we carry it out like a regular flight, we understand that there is some kind

of responsibility, you understood that a special board will arrive uh, at 2:00 in the afternoon, three, so, well, there’s no point in people checking in to the hotel, they created... conditions so that they could wash themselves, eat, some, let’s say, minimum requirements for themselves to satisfy, later we took them to board and are taking it to the territory of belarus, this is already the second belavia special board from the conflict zones, on november 6, 117 citizens, 108 adults and nine children were delivered from israel, for a national air carrier that is under american sanctions, this was practically impossible, but we agreed that the only the condition was that the plane fly empty to the israeli airport bengurion and only return with belarusian passengers. 41 people, 22 of them children, from 3 years old, their evacuation was a delicate matter, worked

in contact with russian colleagues on constant communication with the belarusian president, he was informed about all the nuances. alexander lukashenko controlled, gave additional commands, authority and wisdom worked, they will notice on... you can be proud that my children have a country, yes, they are belarusian, they should be proud. that they have belarusian citizenship, i am very happy because of their relationship, and i also thank the president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko, thank him so much that he has such guys working for him, such a team, our consuls, that they are so they supported us, they did everything possible , impossible, to get us out of there, we didn’t pay anything at all, they fed us, they provided us with everything completely, we

didn’t need anything at all. and all this time , their relatives and loved ones in various parts of belarus probably believed, but did not know when, when they would be able to hug them all. ilona mikhailovna, hello, on instructions from the president, we are organizing a speech for your relatives from the gas sector, and they will arrive in belarus today at 23:00, we invite you to take part in their meeting at the national airport minsk-2. well, you can be present, but as long as you want, as long as you want, you can with the whole family, well, we have five children, some of them will have to learn the language better, some will have to go to kindergarten or school, decide on a job, they all have to decide something with housing, during the six-hour flight to belarus, they all thanked for peace, the opportunity to live in peace again, and also, many asked, that’s what you

know, i also really want to ask our president, because such a situation, when there will be palestine, we do not know that my husband was given citizenship, he has had a residence permit for 20 years, look at the land , i am a doctor, my wife is a doctor, our land has existed for more than thirty years, our eldest son was educated as an orthodontist, he is now working in a new one. already 2 years, we still have two boys, one is studying to become a programmer, the second is also studying computer science, so what, how can such a family be seen in belarus, we cannot convey any harm to you for the fundamental question, why do i want, in -firstly, i’m almost 23 years old, you

i did an interview with my wife, my wife, since 1990. with her, i hope that he is doing to us, there are so many people there, we are few here, that he gives us belarusian citizenship, and we will thank him, minsk taxiing, good night, parking lot 22, taxi behind an escort car, they have 40 days of hell behind them, when every day you hold the phone in your hands, a corridor, either a humanitarian one, or a minefield, you don’t know whether you’ll get to the checkpoint, meeting your fellow countrymen on the flight and hugging your loved ones, for everything was done for them so that they would not doubt for a minute, the regions were waiting for them here centrally helped relatives get to the airport and home, each of the gases was identified by region, at the request of the people themselves, from the airport to their new home, some traveled 40 minutes, and others 4:00 at night, realizing that

tomorrow they had will come. without being in their place, without losing loved ones and without leaving their homes, of course, it is difficult to imagine what these people experienced, but they, knowing what it is like when there is war, now definitely

appreciate the belarusian peace and tranquility. there was a smell of something fried in the air since... in gas, the arab genocide and terrorist israel’s methods, at the moment the whole world switched from the war in ukraine to the arab-israeli war, we have never seen this before, carpet bombing of civilian areas and the targeted killing of civilians,

against the backdrop of everything that is happening in the middle east, it seems that military operations in ukraine have slowed down, so here...peace for ukraine is something else. and i’m with you ksenia lebedeva. hello. most of all, the worsening of the arab-israeli conflict scared zelensky, not because he is a jew, but because the ukrainian war is not over. and the stall no, the united states decided to redirect all financial assistance to israel as much as possible, at least

the result is visible there, i allah. and in ukraine there is no one left to fight, even with regular supplies of ammunition to weapons. 99% from helyanti, a volunteer just yesterday. 99% from clanists. i just saw one volunteer yesterday, who said that his wife was fed up with him, and it happens that husbands beat their wives, they say, take him away, he beats me and my daughter. but it happens that he beats his neighbors, and the neighbors say: take him away, because he is a sadist, our society is degenerating, the elite has left and is not has returned, genetic slaves remain, they are ready to be under anyone, intellectual degenerates, intellectually, not cooler, but all

these are trifles for both american senators and for the morasmatic biden, because the murdered children, women, old people in the gas and for them this is an attendant, and they have already been counted at about 15,000 since the beginning of hostilities. the lack of military personnel in ukraine is not a problem for the head of the british ministry of defense, ben wallis , suggests zelsky mobilize more youth. and a militant from the azov national guard is called to mobilize everyone, including teenagers there are apparently no longer enough women and disabled people. we need to mobilize. we need to carry out broader mobilization, and not just old guys, they’re certainly not exactly fifty-year-olds, but when they get to the point of fighting, they already look like old people, why? because they already have a lot of chronic diseases, by this time, it is necessary to mobilize twenty, eighteen year olds, what is the problem, that they are

students and what? students shouldn't fight, they should, they come, they come, they come fight, fight, if you take into account the global plans of the guy from washington, then probably the destruction of the ukrainian nation as such is not a problem at all, ukrainians are not fighting for a better life for themselves, but for a better life for fat american wallets, and in the meantime, based on the results of 2022, with a general drop in the american market of 16%, companies in the american military-industrial complex grew by almost 20. who benefits from the continuation of the war in ukraine and when will the conflict end? we’ll talk about this with andrei petrovich bogadelim, deputy head of the general staff faculty. forces of the military academy of belarus. andrey petrovich, hello. hello, after the start of the conflict, let’s say the escalation

of the conflict in the middle east, many questions arose. in your opinion, this will affect the long-term development of events on the ukrainian front. if even a year and a half ago, 2 years ago everyone said that the russian federation was definitely an aggressor, definitely no one wanted to have anything to do with it, look how today the world has completely turned around. the other side and even when the g20 took place, was no longer accepted the final declaration, where the russian federation was called aggressive. but now there is also a moment connected with the middle east, and those countries that are trying to take a pro-israeli position today are starting to lose, what? they are starting to lose, firstly, what they want to achieve with the east and the global south, for which zelensky fought for the same thing and tried to compete. with the russian federation in this area. andrey petrovich, well, that’s why the attitude of the so-called partners has now changed dramatically towards russia,

are they in no hurry to call it an aggressor country, as was the case before? look at how carefully the russian federation is waging war, unlike, for example, israel, that is, why do we say that israel today is using terrorist methods of warfare, that is, terrorist methods, but let’s assume hypothetically that hamas has applied its methods of war there, which... there is cutting off heads and so on and so forth, terrorism, well, suppose terrorism, but this is an organization, not a state, why then israel, being state, begins to engage in terrorism at such a level, actually destroying everything, working across the squares and wiping this gas sector off the face of the earth in general, how to treat this, well, i don’t think that besides the fact that these are terrorist methods of war, and the fact that ultimately in the long run, this will still be subject to condemnation by the world... society, i think there is no doubt about it, as for ukraine, the russian federation, i say again, the war is going on very carefully. but how long do you think

svo will last, your estimates and forecasts? when this conflict in ukraine ends, by and large depends on the global west, not so much on the global west that is located in europe, because it, too, is not destined for the best fate, and we see this, for example, the role of germany has generally fallen somewhere there is the very, very bottom, today. the role of france is being diminished, and there is no one left to rely on poland, the poles, i think, themselves are in a pre-panic situation, the fact that the general situation in the world is developing today, today there is a war will stop in ukraine only after the united states arranges this, that is, when europe will buy resources, when germany will be completely dependent on the united states, when all the industry that needs to be brought there and when it won’t... the question is raised once a month about the shutdown, that’s why i think that it is this post-war world, its better situation than the pre-war one - this is the main

condition that the united states is monitoring, we have entered a world of clash of civilizations, and it’s not for nothing that today the russian the federation has adopted the concept of external foreign policy, where it speaks of its state as a civilization, this is very correct, it is not for nothing that today such words as the russian world ring a bell for everyone who is in the west. this is a given today and we must understand this very well; there is a global front of the world, and the russian federation occupies, well , a leading position there, and we, as the closest ally , must contribute to this. andrei petrovich, despite the sluggish ongoing war, can we expect any changes in the near future? at the front? let's say honestly today that in ukraine, it is already entering the next phase today, this is first of all... the autumn-winter stage, during it, during this stage, we can assume, taking into account

what groups have been created, taking into account what , what reserves the parties have, most likely, all this will continue to proceed in the same positional phase, what we have repeatedly said is the strategy of attrition that has been chosen by russia and which is being successfully carried out, there is definitely a possibility that the russian federation, armed strength, her they will liberate, well, in the next month, maybe ovdeevka there, there will definitely be questions about the liberation of kupinsk , because what is already happening there, except - it’s just a question of the defeat of the armed forces of ukraine, it’s just a matter of time, again i would like to say that this is just a tactical success, there is no talk of any large-scale success of an operational scale yet, well, the next thing, which is important to say, is the possibility, of course, of the emergence of such new weapons as airplanes, that is, f16 . and

most likely, the question is not only about the-16, f-15 mirages 2000, well... we are talking about swedish griffins and so on, most likely they will appear in time for the summer campaign. andrei petrovich, well, you and i are talking about the b16 and other aircraft, we probably talk at every meeting we have, this has probably been since may of this year, whether they will be there or not, because questions arise in training, in including the fact that the ukrainians spoke english poorly and could not study technical documents, who, that is, they also needed to be taught english, well, i think there are those who already speak english and who can... conditional, as they say, ukrainian citizenship, and even conduct combat operations using these very types of weapons , well, including, i’m not saying, of course, i’m not talking about the fact that part of the ukrainian side will not be trained, i think there will be a large number of mercenaries, and here the question of gaining air supremacy will arise, that is, the fight for the sky will most likely be pass, the russian federation, of course, needs to prepare for this, but again, this question is about such an unsuccessful outcome

of this particular conflict at this stage. having trained in mexico and spain, the americans were in no hurry to enter the first world war as a belligerent power, but were happy to supply the entente countries with weapons, ammunition, ammunition and military materials, and began to provide loans to the british and french, turning from the largest debtor to largest creditor, while mutual the money was returned to the states as payment for orders. the states behaved according to a similar scenario in the second world war. many americans became rich at this time, and up to a certain point, some supplies , in particular energy resources, were made for both the germans and the japanese, that is, they supplied everything to all sides of the conflict. money doesn't smell. since then, weapons and military goods

have become a gold mine for the americans. what is happening in ukraine is certainly not the case. associated with democracy, what happens in the middle east is not a humanitarian mission at all, more than half of the working population in the united states is connected to one degree or another with the military industry, so the more wars there are, the more prosperous america will be, everyone else will return to the middle ages, but this is probably different, you need to understand. and i was with you, ksenia

lebedeva, see you in the next program. lack of discipline is failure, failure is war. it all starts with the economy. the same applies to international politics. it may seem strange to some that while the whole world is in the fires of military conflicts, the president is not talking about war, but about the economy, but he is doing this precisely in order to stop the war. with regards to exports, what lukashenko personally did in recent years, that is, after the sanctions, agreed with putin that part of the production would be for critically needed products. organizes it in belarus, moreover, russia will finance it, and the goods produced will be guaranteed to be purchased at a high price. alexander grigorevich encourages you to learn from the mistakes of others, and not fill your own troubles independently, and on how well his partners hear him, the future of the countries in our unions, and therefore the future of belarus, depends. propaganda project, watch on tv channel

belarus 24. we, the young generation of sovereign belarus, must remember the past and appreciate the present, so that our native belarus lives in peace and creation. indeed, social life has always aroused great interest and while studying at school, from the eighth grade, i was elected secretary of the primary organization of secondary school no. 1 in the city of novolukoml, in principle, probably from that moment an active social life began, being elected secretary at school, mm, well, it was very honorable , probably important, and indeed, among my classmates there was also no such thing that i was the secretary of the primary organization, but,

on the contrary, it was just it’s very nice when... the guys with whom we studied, let’s say, expressed trust and united them around us to come up with something new, bring it to life, we initiated a number of volunteer actions, we cleaned memorial monuments, helped veterans, elderly people and uh, we don't we had to sit and wait until we were told about this to help the elderly, yes, this is everyone ’s duty, i consider a young man today to help the elderly and do everything to make their life more comfortable and cozy, of course, helping veterans is sacred the duty of absolutely every belarusian, because thanks to these people today we can, in principle, live under a peaceful sky, calmly walk down the street, participate in various kinds of events, promotions, projects that we offer today, which

are initiated today by young people, in principle for the right live under a peaceful sky, i think this is the most important thing that can only be, the emotions that you experience after volunteer events are probably hard to experience after anything else, i just recently... the concert we held is one thing one of the first, probably, significant events in terms of volunteer activities for me, because i still probably have the feeling as if, well, we turned the world upside down. bärsem is the future homeland, to be built by the young, and certainly today, thanks to the union youth, every young person can not remain aloof from all the events that take place in the country , first of all, of course, youth should love their country and be rightfully proud that they live in a peaceful, independent, prosperous belarus, because really support for youth in our country, like in no other country , it is colossal and the youth feel it

, the most important thing will be the return from the youth if they simply value it all, respect it, the most important thing, of course, is in the year of peace and creation multiply. hello, the program “say don’t be silent” is on air, victoria popova and tatyana sherbina are in the studio. and today our guest is psychologist alena diodina. hello alena, glad to see you again. alena, you have been living and working in belarus for several years now, and have you already received belarusian citizenship? no, i clearly have a residence permit, it was my initiative to ask for a residence permit,

because, in connection with my work activities, certain prohibitions and sanctions can be carried out against me automatically, yes, but i let me remind you that in riga, i have my father’s grave there, there is an apartment where my dad poured me cocoa, that is, there are some nostalgic things that i... well, no normal person would part with, yes, well, at the moment i want to be able to come to my dad’s grave, put flowers, so that there are no complaints, because if a ban is introduced, then it’s forever, there’s such an interesting phrase that hell is never, so never come to your father’s grave, well, well, few people are ready for this, i think, here everything is clear, how has your life changed after moving to belarus? there is more political psychology in life, a lot of interesting and entertaining work has become, and i do not

regret that at one time i said my word for the president. many ill-wishers, when you moved, said, well, we are timing the time when she will run back, well, the years go by, alena is with us, well, in general, they were wrong. with all that, well, i am faced with the usual classic difficulties of any migrant, yes, that is, when a person comes for some kind of benefit, yes, then when faced with certain difficulties, he tends to either be offended or disappointed , because you think, well, i’ll go, life will be easy, everywhere in any country a person has moved, he has some additional tasks with which you will need... to work, and if this person is ideological, then he will be ready to solve these problems, and not to shift responsibility to someone else, not to be offended by anyone, not to expect that someone will solve these

problems for you, this is like our fugitives, who are now disappointed, having left for lithuania or poland, yes, they thought they would come, they would be carried there in their arms, they were carried in their arms, at a certain moment, when, while it was beneficial to that side, while it was profitable, for them to speak out somehow, for them to criticize their country, yes, it was easy for them, but now, well, accordingly, they have worked themselves out as material, right? and now they, they are disappointed, how is it, well, look, there are five stages in psychology, well , we see, denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance, in your opinion, at what stage these same runaways are now, i think it ’s very different, because every person goes through a stage, well, for each type of person’s temperament, he needs his own certain time to go through this stage , yes, well, if

we evaluate it globally in general, or anger, yes, when, how is it? it didn’t work out, well, the bargaining didn’t work, they didn’t appreciate my contribution, i gave up everything here, but it turns out that no one needs me there, it turns out it’s difficult for me, and here it was, well, normal, well, there were some problems of my own, which also needed to be solved, you just need to understand that there is no life where a person, in the long term, does not have to resolve some important issues for himself, this is their main illusion, on which... perhaps they fell for it at that moment, that there is a certain world where you won’t have to do anything, everything around you will be fine, everything will change at the snap of a finger, that’s the trap, yes, that they were caught in, well, i think, well, or they themselves were caught in it, because, they got caught because the claims they had here to to the state, to the country, to the people, to everything, they just transferred them just like that, as

i read, yes, i recently read something last week that you have to hear russian speech addressed to you, pig, russian, ukrainian, get away from the poles , yeah, this is probably something that you, alena, don’t encounter as a migrant , here, yes, but how would you explain this rhetoric, russophobic, ukrainian poles, and you know, in fact, this fatigue from defectors there, it is also connected not only with their origin, with technical behavior, which they tend to broadcast when they come there, they come there as kings, what are they owed there, well, the best people left, they themselves declared that they were the best people, so the best people left, they demand treatment there as to the best people, while for that state, having moved there, they want to do very little , they believe that they should be valued in fact for

the fact that they can crap on their country there, no, yes, and their own, feeling these contrasts, they are not accepted there, but they are with on their part, they also made quite a lot of contribution to be treated this way, yeah, this is not so much about some kind of russophobia of internal history, but about the fact that the behavior that they broadcast is broadcast to me and there is the same thing as in relation to to our state, well, we all owe behavior, you all owe me , yes, explain to me, there are, for example, good people who walk around with a crown on their head, but there are simpler people who have been subjected to, so to speak, manipulations, for some reason reasons they still ran away from countries, now it seems like they would like to return, but something about them, i think that these are such internal fears and also the influence of the information vacuum... in which they

are there, yes, that is, it is important to understand what is there this space is very informational, it does not let in any information from the outside, and that is, a maximum feeling is created of this threat of hostility from the belarusian state or the russian state, so this fear of even trying, it is very influential, but they already once already decide on this. from the side where they are currently located, yes, that is, we are observing the influence of that information field, that context.

in which they now live, that is, they have a different idea of ​​the situation, the attitude that may be towards them here, so it is more difficult for them to decide, and in fact it is very great that we have the opportunity to submit this application, at least just to find out if there are any complaints against me at all, or maybe no one simply cares about me, well , you are very right about the fact that wednesday the environment ultimately influences the decision, because i saw the attempts of defectors to contact this commission and how they were attacked by their compatriots. yes, who said that well, in general, you, well, as a matter of fact, there was such a certain fear of theirs, which they broadcast on those people, and those who are ready to make up their mind, they may internally, for their part, also want to, but they are so scared ,

it’s scary, but i think that help can be provided here by relatives who stayed here and who can help with exactly this the first step, you need to talk to someone, i’m from that environment, so i think, here i agree with you, yes, to be able to at least look for this contact, check, because how can i know for sure what is hostile here , this is the question that it is important for each of those who are afraid to decide to answer for themselves , and as i know that this is exactly the case, yes, that is, to look for some other opportunities, to find out how they are treated here , as here in general, act through precisely those who remained here. there are still some contacts here, there are families left, yes, some kind of historical past, there is this opportunity, just try, you have nothing to lose, it’s also interesting to know your opinion about those who

were manipulated, as they put it in 2020, and we also saw this, people succumbed then manipulation, after some time they declare that we have realized, changed our views, now we are for the state, for lukashenko, how stable they have become, will they not succumb to manipulation once again, when they again want to deceive them, you know, human consciousness is like that, when emotions are involved, if you manage to cling to these emotions like little levers, yes, then there is a possibility, it is always there, just the experience that they went through, if they really sincerely realized that it was good. if they consciously approach what hooks they are hooked on, then in general these are very, well, psychologically stable people, it also seems to me that immunity should be developed after such, especially when

it is associated with such shocks, it’s one thing , yes, when i don’t have this experience, but that’s another matter, when you have already received it, these methods of mind control that are used, they...' historically are always the same, it’s just that if a person learns to recognize and recognize them, they lose - the possibility of influencing this person, why are we even here now, for those who remained, it is very important to talk now about methods of influence, methods of control over consciousness, to recognize, learn to recognize these moments, it will be useful in the future, it will be useful now, but it will be even more useful when there is an election... campaign, by the way , i noted we are very, now various sociological studies are being published on various issues before the elections, this is natural , it is again noted that belarusian society is becoming apolitical, well, this is encouraging, in fact, when this degree

of excitement was already at its peak, yes, it was it’s not easy, that is, it was already difficult to communicate at the everyday, family level , today, there was some kind of psychological pre-preparation for people to be more susceptible to some kind of turmoil, this also influenced whether society would relax, as it did in on the eve of the twentieth year, when we all talked about politics, we are not interested in politics, and then boom, what did it all lead to, so now it seems like... a lot depends on the information space and context that we, as representatives of the media will we be able to offer an alternative, take the initiative, that is, how psychologically correctly can we react to

certain external circumstances occurring, yes, so that our reaction is as useful as possible, not just some telephone calls? pranks, and things that are difficult to somehow resist, certain patterns that media representatives, yes, it is important to understand, these are psychological patterns, politics are people, there is nothing else there , i mean, alena, that we cannot, for example, sometimes you yourself can’t buy a lie, imagine, it’s difficult for us professionals to figure out whether it’s a deep fake or whether it’s true, or he said it, or is saying it, or is planning to do something else, this is more the task of political psychologists, yeah, or it must

be some kind of joint collaboration, yes, when representatives of the media, for their part, have that accumulated knowledge base that exists, psychologists, competent psychologists who understand these processes that are taking place, who understand how patterns work and how information coming from outside in the future... can have an impact on society, yes, that is, there must be people who know how to think strategically many, many, many steps forward, yes, if this is well-functioning, good, joint, competent work, then we will be able to keep our information space quite comfortable, well, as a psychologist, let’s say, you distinguish a deepfake, but from the truth, by what signs, by psychological ones, i just see what patterns are involved in

the rhetoric that comes from the outside, i see what feelings cling, yes, i see mm, how the source is the words that i hear, uh-huh, that is, if it’s something very strongly propaganda, then you have to think about it, if, if it somehow causes an emotional reaction, uh-huh, a feeling - it could be a feeling of resentment , range of feelings, it is very broad, not only fear, we are used to understanding that if people are intimidated, then yes, this is it, this is it, but besides the feeling of fear there is also a huge, wide range of different feelings, yes, that is, it can also be a feeling of loss justice, loss of security, it could be a feeling of resentment, it could be anger, it could be love, it... it could even be some feeling from the positive spectrum, but they don’t cling to reason, it’s to

emotions, yes, because when emotions are involved, then rational is rational component, yes, it may be dulled a little or dulled altogether, but we are now on the threshold of a large electoral campaign, you now see in our information field some kind of stuffing, maybe, or something of some kind of influence, and there is the future of manipulation. some, there are, i see some prospects when there will be another attempt to create, that you do not choose for yourself , you do not decide anything, you have lost your freedom, you lack democracy, listen, what difference does it make what to call the political regime, if me in this political regime live well, easily, freely and better. what is it in your democracy, what difference does it make what

you call it? yes, that is, there will most likely be an attempt to appeal to some terminology, but you live in a dictatorship, yes, that is , here are some such emotionally strong words, i think that will be used, but again, the attitude to the concept of dictator it seems to me that over the past 2 years things have changed a lot here, that is, when we hear it here, it has already acquired such a certain satirical character, especially from the lips of the collective, again, there is something compare, compare, there are examples of what is happening even among our neighbors, the big question is what and where is dictatorship and where is democracy, president lukashenko says very important things, be friends with your neighbors, yes, that is , he, well, as a president, he gives we have an example of what needs to be divided, here is a political one. component, yes, this is the rhetoric of their authorities, but there are people, there is a social component,

look, this is that same russophobia, uh, which is just fierce, full-blown russophobia among the rulers of the baltic countries, among ordinary citizens, such is it rhetoric, or is there no aggression, no, no, the fact of the matter is that this is again some kind of information coming from there, that supposedly they are all unfriendly towards us, no, at the social level. even among latvians, among seasoned latvians, they are quite friendly, i have lived there all my life, and i have never once had one of the latvians rub my nose in the fact that i am not a citizen of latvia, that i am russian, this never happened, i was part of this social society, usually people with their own sides on the social... moreover, alena told the story that when she went to

the last elections, she was looking for an embassy where to vote, the latvian told her just look, you only vote. it wasn’t me who was looking for where to vote, but he told me, yeah, that a certain belarusian, yes, a person, yes, who has belarusian citizenship, living on the territory of latvia, went to vote, yeah, he went to vote for our president, having met lotysh, he asked , how can i get to the belarusian embassy, ​​yeah, so he told him, well, look, if you’re not for the badka if you go to vote, look at me. it was a simple latvian, by the way, about friendship, a wonderful gesture, i think on the part of belarus in relation to our neighbors , it is visa-free, thousands of people have already visited it, even there are hundreds of thousands of people from poland, lithuania, and latvia, including yours acquaintances also came, and my friends came, it was very interesting to observe these

contrasts, because the expectation, i just saw how strong... “you ’re going to belarus, are you serious, what are you doing, right there, here i am i watched them come here, and how this picture is starting to become clearer, yes, that is, they still understood that well , well, no, well, probably not like what they tell us there, anyway, when they came here, they discovered for themselves" even more friendly, and these are the people, yes, whose experience, the real experience that they received here, they took it, they took it there, they spread it among, yes, these people, they are informational, they represent, for that information space, they

pose, well, some kind of threat, well, that’s why they were so carefully tried to isolate our country last. belarus, although this is an absolute lie, for what purpose is this being done? it seems to me that this is one of the ways to create this negative image of our president, our state, yes, this is an attempt to create this feeling of an enemy at the gates, look, they don’t even disdain children, if anything, but what about you then talk? i think i already said that when i was in the sanatorium, there were a lot of cars with latvian license plates around in the parking lot, and i think that this tradition without a visa will continue with us, but for now we will pause for a while, i remind you that we have a telegram channel, don’t be silent, subscribe, ask questions and

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famous people answer tricky questions from the younger generation. how strict a father are you? well, i think that this question is some kind of dummy question, but do you have any bad habit, yulia, what bad habit do you have? no, come on first, they say that it’s difficult to get along with creative people, but you’re an easy person, we’ll leave that for behind the scenes, watch in the project 100 questions for adults, on the belarus 24 tv channel , we are setting off on an expedition to the depths of our country, a change for us to embrace this unity, we are setting out on a new folklore expedition, which will continue in the past. let's follow the history and myastsovye abrads. take care of your yard, for we are knitting the vital collection. if you all lived in parasensible and shady ways. if all our people

were not there were the pagarelians and the galadayuchy. well, if you are kind, please give us a favor. pour grain on ours. may you have the next step godze byu yashche lepshi urajay. and giving these old traditions a new life. yak paishla ya malada lugavinay, abvela. i sat down, fluffy, and went and sat down, and sat down for a talk about davankiya , just with projects ahead of me on the tv channel belarus 24. the program “tell don’t be silent” is on air again, and today our guest is psychologist alena

diodina. alena, well, we see how the west deprived the baltic countries of independence, sovereignty, actually destroyed their economies, you also saw this in the example of latvia, we see what kind of policy it is pursuing in in relation to the same georgia, yes, although mountains of gold are constantly promised. paradise, on their part, there’s nothing to talk about ukraine at all, we see everything ourselves, yes , the country has simply turned into a battlefield, although at first zelensky was praised, recently time published such a cover, where the figure of zelensky itself is twice as big less than the letters, which, now we see , are characterized by no one, yes, this is the key word, and zelsky himself generally understands that what sad fate is in store for him? by the set of his reactions to the same western politicians, yes, that is, by the way he looks, how he reacts facially, how he sometimes speaks by

the timbre of his voice, he understands everything, he simply cannot change anything, yes, that is, that is the same recent phrase of his about that it would be better for this world if dogs ruled it, he seemed to be joking, everyone seemed to laugh, but if you think about it, and look at this us foreign policy, then probably, yes, it would be better, so this phrase, it speaks of his inner disappointment, well, for those supposedly friends, like to feel sorry for him, first you had to not be enchanted, somehow he was so enchanted, yes , most likely he was enchanted, most likely they spared him , just... they signed up for something else, because, well, psychologically, yes there is such a thing that if initially

a person cannot be signed up for something like that, so that he is repulsed, at first a little bit at a time, and then he simply cannot refuse, it seems to me, zelensky, he fell into the same trap when he was offered to play as a servant of the people, he decided that he could handle it, perhaps they appealed to some noble goals, originally. it is possible, it is possible that he initially believed in all this, he also, it seems to me, psychologically fell for it, yes, finding himself vulnerable at