tv [untitled] BELARUSTV November 22, 2023 10:00am-11:00am MSK
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hello, we welcome everyone who is with us now, let's start with footage of interesting meetings: the palace of independence, presidents, leaders of political parties, talked about the future and chronologically in a broad sense, the two largest election campaigns await us, twenty-fourth year, one day voting, parliament, then the first congress of the renewed belarusian people's assembly, of course, a very relevant moment, especially before the parliamentary elections, i said quite frankly that the entire vertical of power has been mobilized to hold parliamentary elections, elections of the all-belarusian people's assembly in a reasonable, beautiful, dignified manner, well, in a year there will be presidential elections, i want you to understand that another feature we have is that there is a generation change, replacing: the current
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leaders, including the president and others, young, energetic people must come, but the task is definitely to save the country , we will stumble, believe me, no one will give us a shoulder, everything depends only on us , the world is being redivided, god forbid we end up in the mill of this redistribution, olgeevich, if not get to the mill of redistribution? not to destroy, but to create, in 1920 we said more than once that the political model of our country would be reformed, that is , the president spoke about it, politicians spoke about it, experts spoke about it, this was overdue, but the question was how to modernize it, in order to strengthen it, or just to modernize it, just to satisfy some western standards, we went our own way, so we began to build our own political system, strengthen it exclusively... its own historical path,
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including through political parties. we realized that we need to engage in politics. the year 1920 showed this: either we are engaged in politics, or the state models the political field. how is this done in all countries of the world, or are we developing these institutions, or the west will do it for us. a political party a priori, we understand that its main goal is the struggle for power, do you need power? of course, there is no need to lie to everyone, if someone comes and says, we don’t need power, we don’t want anything, we don’t want to become deputies, we don’t apply for positions in the government, this is a deception, a specific question, of course, is needed, of course we need it, of course we need it, because we want to influence the decision. it won’t be like this, that is , people will always adhere to one position, the second position, while everyone has common principles, one country, some common path, but goals, how
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to achieve this goal, methods, they are completely different for everyone , our party has its own, the communist party has its own, white russia has its own, but naturally, we compete for a reason, to get... to implement our program , so naturally, any party strives to have more influence, opportunities, well, our task, of course, is to compete, we must compete and what olekgeevich said is a struggle for power, of course , we want, so that our interests of our party members are represented both on the parliamentary platform, on local councils, and in government bodies, this is very important, this is definitely the power of the people, if the ldp is represented. the communist rpts party, for example, on these platforms, but it is good, and white russia, yes, it is good competition, but first of all i want, our main task, besides competition, is of course, we are patriots, we are patriots, and the main goal is to preserve our state, to throw all our strength, all our resources to work on
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this task and implement it so that no forces, including destructive ones, influence it, this is a specific question, we have a serious exam, tests, these are two electoral cycles at once and we understand what context yes... surrounds us at this moment, we will definitely talk about it, about poland, about ukraine, of course, what is happening in the middle east, we are talking about elections, and after the twentieth year i am sure that a pain field is awakening in a significant part of our population, as again, has it really been 5 years , i i’m talking about the presidential elections, and people imagine all the terrible trash that, even first of all, we have to go through emotionally, that’s how we, the president , talks about how, in the external context, not to fall under this redistribution mill. there is a generation change, so how can we not roll back, but really take a step forward? well , i want to note that first of all, in order to prevent these mistakes, we must talk with our society with political forces, give explanations, this is very it is important that many issues were
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overlooked somewhere in past periods, but we learn from mistakes, our task now is to lay out every despair of our society, of every citizen, and work with it. and should be responsible for participating in these political processes in election campaigns, you know, in addition to my colleagues, i want to say that what we, a political party, a public association, declare, there must be an appropriate mechanism, today, this mechanism exists, and. .. political parties today, that's exactly what they're for are created to represent people in power, to bring into power appropriate , interested, motivated people, tuned to the development of the state, and we see
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that a whole block of such opportunities has been formed, today there are a lot of public interest associations that any person can choose, but as soon as we talk about... those promises and those legislative issues that we now have, and this stage of the structure of the political system, the party system, it says that we are moving a little to a new level, including looking for our own way, not populism in direct terms, no one will tell us that here we will be, we will build on this, yes, build everything that happened, what i mean now, that’s what you think, will there be an attempt
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revenge, surprises from those who, well, in 2020, wanted to do something, but they didn’t succeed, get ready for it, you know, you can’t say that revenge can’t happen, we, of course, have changed, and society has lessons learns, and the state learns lessons. of these events, but i will say that this revenge maybe in completely different forms, i’m not talking about a direct physical conflict there, about physical things, i think that this revenge will first of all try to happen in the information sphere, in the sphere of information influence, and maybe even somewhere, and discrimination against the system, the people of this system and , in general, any person with a positive attitude in our belarusian people, let me just want to say that this is how we see this field, that there will be no shock. will not happen, but all of us, those present here and our civilian society
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should under no circumstances relax, why? because if in the twentieth year we saw openly, let’s say so, as we worked, to undermine our state openly, today we should not relax and see that this work continues, but we will already say so, at the underground level , why i said psychological, including war and pressure, because through all sources we see that, including... your program, and you do not, more than once do not leave the polish agenda or rhetoric, there is a constant discussion information fields of the republic of belarus, there is a constant discussion of political processes or the work of political parties that are happening today, that is, they care about this, they are trying to look for every clue in order to influence two issues, which means look, two meetings this week with the president of the dairy industry, passenger transportation, we say, they will not pump there, they will pump , they have always been used by our enemies, social problems, social issues that exist in the country, acute problems,
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they tried to shake up society in this way, we have the president again, look, the president has decided everything again, sorted out passenger transportation, practically dealt with the dairy industry, here is the role of political parties, we still have to learn to take responsibility, here we are when we say power, power, power, remember this opposition, glory god, now they have purged these parties, of which there were 15 of them, against their background, and we were discredited, because... i remember a meeting with the president, when there was an all-belarusian meeting, the president proposes to a fugitive comrade romanchuk to head the collective farm, he refuses, he was one of the leaders, that is, he does not want to take responsibility, only criticize, only scold, only tell how bad everything is, this is what we should not turn into - we should never turn into it, if you want to do something, take it responsibility, do it, and when the president met with us, i’ll tell you, with one there are two feelings, the first feeling, this is truly a historical day and the party... the president begins to trust, and the president is, excuse me, the head of state elected by the people, but
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secondly, a huge responsibility, i feel it now, because we still need to prove that we are needed, prove that we will be useful, and how to be statesmen, think according to the state, think about the interests of the country, and not just criticize and do what shows shortcomings, but this must be done, we must all work together with those citizens, including those who see some problems. not radicals, forget about them, so we must make sure that people never turn to them again, don’t remember them, because they know that there are officials, there are parties, there are major public organizations that will raise and solve these problems, without waiting for the president to delve into it and decide, let's go further, what about the neighbors, we see that this is also a factor that will influence our elections, we want whether this is true or not, because this is a very series , this is a matter of our security, poland is still arming itself like crazy, this is the latest... another tank battalion has been deployed in chertaevo. this is not far from brest, amazing, just bought in
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south korea tank k2. alexey viktorich, how should we perceive this factor? well, of course, we must accept, firstly, understand that those people who acted here inside belarus in 2020, who at the same time were on western grants, who have been working on the western agenda for decades, now a significant part of these people have been squeezed out in one way or another . congress of the white russia party, then i can speak, i think, now on behalf of the party and yesterday, our party, bgu, now, now four
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truly constructive parties remain in the legal and public field, but we must understand that if, if in belarus, the party system today stands somehow apart from the electoral one, if we still do not have a proportional system, not a mixed one, but a purely by some other forces, here the question arises of this very external factor , which, of course, will try to find such people somewhere, push them through, despite the fact that many people now have no direct influence left, but this is the opposition, which pushed abroad, but which does not leave unconditionally thoughts of returning here, leaving on a white horse
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, winning some kind of revenge victories and twisting , breaking the whole world inside belarus, this is, in general, their blue dream. we see this, but here we also need to understand that they they themselves are a toy in the hands of even more powerful forces, well, we have, we have a wonderful, in quotes , example of ukraine, we remember how the elections were held in 1919, that is, such a rich political palette, a servant of the people, a charming artist who promises to bring peace to the ground than everything, and maybe, you know, maybe this is good, maybe, after all, based on the example of zelensky, what developed after he came to power. circumstances, the people will understand that when we talk about choosing a politician, about filling parliament with people who will work, then here is exactly the word populism, which was already uttered by a colleague, it is in principle unacceptable, and we will now continue, look, let's listen to the president, because here is an interesting fragment, just in the context of what we are talking about, elections and in parallel those
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internal and external threats that exist and may appear in october, remember, he came to see if what happened in 1920 could happen again, the president answers this very clearly, is there a possibility that something in some then the events will be repeated to a degree, it won’t be repeated, why did this happen in 2020, well, i think, these funds, well these, well, democracy, well, this west will fall under sanctions again, okay, we’ll do it democratically, and they thanked us for what they said to us they didn’t say thank you, and then together with the russians they got into the same boat with aggressors and loaded everything, because it was determined a long time ago, now we will not play games with them on the field of democracy, we will exclusively approach our positions,
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because we have seen what kind of democrats they are, so we have already had enough of this, we are experienced people, each of the project's heroes is engaged in important work. the chief custodian of funds is an earthly profession, very responsible. our team is working to collect and preserve materials about the past for the sake of the future. we will introduce you to people who found their calling. i am the deputy director of the nalibox republican landscape reserve. conservation of nature is important for all of us, since we all depend on the environment, which gives us food, water, health, and quality of life. we suggest spending one day with specialists to learn all about the intricacies of their
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work. welcome to our palace, the item comes here for temporary custody. then the question of its acceptance into the museum is constantly decided by the stock collection commission, we turned it upside down on purpose, the age of the skull is about 2000 years old, vrochishchekova, traces of a bear were visible there, we planned to go there as a group today on an excursion, but why look at the tv channel belarus 24, we live our lives, according to our own laws, with our own traditions, but why should someone interfere in the internal affairs of our countries? they believed that they could enslave russia, seize its resources, a huge market, enormous natural wealth, and they would live for another 300-400 years. in order to drive a european into a multinational russian, it is necessary
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to deprive him of his memory of what led to all previous attempts, that is, the cossacks in paris, right? therefore, the monuments must be removed, because these are the conditions for a future war. today , a huge number of people come to us from different countries, as much as they fall in love with our native belarus, they leave with the kindest thoughts about our country. therefore, anyone who wants to live and work is welcome. the markov project is nothing personal. watch on the tv channel belarus 24. well, you know, listening to the president, i would like to note, firstly, by which we mean something different. democracy is
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in fact, manipulation of the crowd, which at one point pretends that this crowd is choosing someone. in fact, it has always been my deep conviction that the vast masses of people do not have the collective consciousness to make the right choices. yes, behind them there are certain people, manipulators, fires are burning around us today, civil conflicts, direct wars, fires-economic crises, belarus remains, no matter how our opponents try to beg us to laugh at it, and belarus remains an island stability, thanks primarily to a balanced policy, domestic policy, including the selection of political personnel plays a role here, political parties must first of all serve to ... at the same time, but at the same time we must not forget one thing, this means that the geopolitical situation of our country is such that
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they will never stop shaking up and trying to blow up the situation from the inside, not in 2024, not in 20, and even more so in 1930, 35, 1940, this is exactly what we are doing now, strengthening the political system, the second point that the president spoke about is that we will hold elections exclusively for ourselves, this is... a very important point, why? sometimes they even ask me the question, why didn’t they liquidate the political parties there earlier, which were the fifth column, and why didn’t we remove all the funds there before, well, because we wanted to, we still wanted to lead, even now they are imposing sanctions, and we tried to conduct a dialogue, this is what we did in order for the dialogue to continue with europe, and now you have seen, after the twentieth year, what this can lead to, that it is necessary to protect it ruthlessly, that any... funds, any political instruments that the west has left in our country or in any other post-soviet country, it always goes to us damage. and the third point, what is the party for, i return again to the parties, because
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we still need to think about something, the president spoke about this, through the parties, including the four that remain, those enemies of the state that exist can again somehow penetrate try to get into power, pretend that they are normal people, in the good sense of the word, that they are patriots, and get somewhere through parties, get into the local council. and ideology, because in a party, for example, in any of mine, there is an ideology, a program, and if you oppose this program, an alliance with russia, support for the president, support for the political system, they will throw you out of the party, that is, the party helps to identify people, show their insides, because i remember the twentieth year, there were those who betrayed them, ran down the street. and there were those who sat in the office, hidden, quietly, with a hat, that is, under the table, and waited for how it would end, this is even worse, so i believe that any official, any person holding
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a responsible position, must not only be good professional, but also in a good way, patriotic social activists, if you don’t want a party , work as the largest public organization, trade unions, women’s union, i also want to add to the words of oleg sergevich, that especially after the meeting with the president, which took place, our civil society, the population have become more active, applications have been sent, my colleagues won’t let me collect money to join the party, well, let’s say we have certain thresholds, that is, too, that is , where we look at ourselves, he is not immediately a party member, a candidate for party member , you see, our task is to carry out this filter, because olekgeevich is absolutely right, now the source to penetrate the vertical of power is through the political and social.
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this means that he should already be different from the statistical average and i want to say that the expectation that the situation around the state on the external contours will change, and that something will change in terms of rhetoric, there and so on, is unlikely to happen. in the near foreseeable time, the head of state nevertheless drew attention to internal consolidation, to the request for the need for justice first of all, and this is all connected with people, with the people, with our citizens, and i want to say that one of such serious functions of political parties , we will have to work in this regard, we still need to structure the opinion, convey this opinion up to management. let’s move on: ukraine , the topic of peace negotiations, which we hear regularly, it’s clear why, both our people, not just neighbors, fraternal peoples, are hymning there , yes, after hostility, brothers may not
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speak for years, but this can be solved. it’s clear with us, but now the process has already begun in europe, it’s not time for kiev to take a step to talk with moscow, although there are nuances hidden here that previously they preferred not to talk about in europe, this is what hungarian prime minister viktor orban is now saying: ukraine has not signed a peace treaty agreement in istanbul at the direction of the united states. let's listen. we also know from various reports and intelligence sources that indeed in 2022 in istanbul, where closed negotiations took place, there was essentially an agreement. which the ukrainians did not sign at the direction of the united states. a little earlier, ex-chancellor of germany schröder confirmed these data in an interview and stated that kiev was ready to agree to a peace agreement with russia in march 2022, but it was not reached due to pressure from the united states. as the kremlin stated, the situation in ukraine can move into a peaceful direction, but only now will they proceed from new realities. if ukraine wants a negotiation process, then theatrical gestures are not needed. it is necessary to cancel the decree prohibiting
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news. negotiations, this is the situation that is developing, you know, it is now clear from the rhetoric, firstly of the western media, that the position of those who were behind the incitement of this war has changed somewhat today, and of course, the black swan in the form of the palestinian - the israeli situation, the elections that are almost at the stage of preparation certainly play a role here. us president, but the feeling that they were waiting in europe for this black swan in order to find conditions when they could talk, when they could abandon their previous actions, indeed, but they not only waited, most likely, that it was organized, planned, that’s why the black swans themselves doesn’t fly on its own, if you look at the new cover of magazines, the feeling is that it’s not the same, by the way, but about all these moments, a whole number of them
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, well-known newspaper tabloids, even german and polish, have all been seething and boiling for the last 2 weeks, because they are now publishing supposedly revealing facts that reveal polichenelle’s terrible secret for the european reader, facts that ukraine cannot wage this war itself, and that zaluzhny, who leads the ukrainian troops, frankly says, we do not have this resource, we do not have enough weapons, and we, in principle, understand that russia is stronger, but these are obvious things that were clear a year ago, what was the bet on then, why then, back in the spring of 2022, the united states, through its representatives, did not allow us to sign peace agreements on the territory of belarus, because belarus was the first to propose signing and negotiations on peace in general, to conduct two rounds
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of this all in istanbul to another supposedly neutral territory, which also had its own interests, but in the end they did not give the opportunity to make peace, today the political authorities of ukraine created a stalemate situation, when they themselves forbade themselves to conduct any negotiations, the connected issue too, to create tension in order to force russia to accept something unfavorable for i would say, we will discuss, we will discuss i definitely see you, alexey nikolaev, but okay in europe, but in the camp of the main beneficiaries of the war in ukraine, in the usa,
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the ukrainian topic becomes an apple. a republican party debate took place in miami, the main result of which was not even that zelsky in the united states began to openly berate him personally, calling him a dictator, a corrupt official, and even a nazi. the main result is that no one dared to openly defend him; this was started by the american media themselves. meanwhile, zelensky’s thesis is trying to organize his telephone conversation with former us president donald trump to convince him to support aid to ukraine, which trump's republican allies are blocking in congress. party, we can only guess how this conversation might have developed, but maria zakharova, not without irony , offered her version, let’s listen. donald, it's me, vladimir, no, not your friend, but biden's friend, we had a business with joe and his son, but they have problems, you have no money, on loan, my wife leni needs to go to new york for christmas shopping when will i give it back, when
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i’ll defeat russia, i’ll run, i’ll run, that’s how they joke in the european union, a cartoon in the largest newspaper in italy, carrera, sera, president, zelsky is asking you, who is this , that’s all biden answered, that’s it, why is this happening, that’s what’s happening around ukraine now, if ukraine had won. everyone would be running around shouting how well done they were, how right they were to send aid, we need to double it even more , now we’ll get the pressure, what was happening from the start is happening , no one will ever defeat russia by military means, a nuclear power, it’s a fairy tale, that’s all about it they said usa fulfilled its task of inciting war and weakening europe, and today europe must somehow explain to its citizens, well, you said, defeat russia, tomorrow there will be victory. the day after tomorrow there will be victory, everyone already sees that there will never be any victory, the maximum will be a prolongation of the war, because the americans need to prolong it longer, the collapse of the economy, the european union and a further decline in the standard of living of people in europe, what is happening in america, in america
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again they see perfectly well that ukraine will never doesn’t win, they are using ukraine’s loss for political purposes within the situation in america, because they have presidential elections ahead, some of the republicans are shouting that if the leadership of kiev were different, they accuse it of corruption, there would be a victory, the same thing biden says, why are they all attacking zelsky now, they need to find someone to blame, it’s not the americans who are to blame, we are a great nation, we supply weapons, if there were other ukrainians there, they would have won, that is, bad ukrainians who they are being sent to slaughter, they cannot to win, no one recognizes the truth of life in america, we started this war, we supported the coup in ukraine, this country still exists today, and europe is on its knees, we are driving them to this war for slaughter, knowing that russia will win anyway, so the truth, which today was disgusting at the very beginning, but
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they can’t do anything because they are not independent, especially the baltic states and poland, the electoral campaigns in the mentioned states still indicate that the position of politicians is possibly changing. she will change, i’m not saying that the position of the state will change in relations with our country, but let’s just not be deceived , germany said that next year it will double the amount of military aid money, it will give from four to 8 billion euros, that is, so that we don’t relax either this rhetoric of theirs, what is happening around our borders will not allow us to relax, this is absolutely correct, you said, but this process, what is happening now in the press, is called awareness and acceptance, they are preparing that perhaps we did not succeed through the help of ukraine we will do what we wanted, we will think something else and so on, this is a famous expression, but the fact that there will be no stop is a fact, and how many people are in their graves, that’s the worst thing, look,
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politicians are lying westerners, they are now saying, let’s have another option, let’s have a third option, zaluzhny came out and said, listen, i was wrong, it turns out that the russian fortifications are strong, at what cost, millions suffered, at least not thousands, everyone is in their graves, and they sit and continue to argue, instead of sitting down at the table on the first day negotiations and decide something, and the same thing, palestine israel, i see, it’s scary , so many people have died, they will still sit down at the negotiating table and it will be 10 years, i want, i wanted to add, in general, really, all the players, let’s say that those who are participating in this special operation are already so tired, we really see it all, and the fact that last year, we see that this is happening, let’s say so, once again a big game, last year zelsky lured out again or begged for money for financing when
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they were preparing, companies, yes, but when, like, they were preparing a so-called counter-offensive, everything else was there, and biden insisted, and the eurozone failed, they singled it out like this from the world, they singled it out, but the counter-offensive failed , then the european union was created as, like uh this working body under the usa, no, it is a counterbalance to the usa, as a political , financial, industrial complex, under whose dictation they now live and work under the usa, but they don’t want it, they reject it, i ’m talking, having communication with these european politicians , society is already rejects, not just help, but carrying out this specialization, assistance, of the european union to ukraine, categorically , what you said, scholz voiced there, this is a political game, today he voiced that he will allocate twice as much there, tomorrow he will say nothing, exactly just like biden’s rhetoric, biden, as always, said, we will always be there, but for now remember, they started with the dzhivelins
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, we argued here, they will give, then, now they will give f16, that is, and with all this game, they in general i agree that on the other hand, you know, as the owner of my word, i gave it, i he was taken by ksedi viktorovich, look, after all, by and large , ukraine, what is happening to it now should become such a sobering lesson for everyone, i ’m talking now for everyone, but i will be more specific, i mean armenia, the day before we saw, we heard this information about the telephone conversation that took place between alexander lukashenko and the prime minister of armenia nikol pashinyan, it became known that the latter will not come, most likely, here is the summit, the csto in minsk, this is, of course, the president of said this, and we understand this the sovereign right of armenia, but on the other hand, when you observe... the turbulence that you said, when you
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see the ukrainian experience, how they slammed doors, leaving all possible integration platforms, we see what led to, and less i just want armenia to follow this path, but on the other hand we are seeing events that, well , we are no longer naive, we no longer hope that maybe somehow they will go some other way, we see , what an absolute, total reversal turns into. to the west from ignoring those connections that have developed over centuries, you know, as for armenia, then, in principle, the coming to power of the current ruling elite and pashinyan, first of all, are precisely from those same western foundations, because, firstly, it itself itself that velvet revolution that brought mr. pashiyan to power through a not entirely legal path, a change of the entire ruling leadership, immediately after his arrival, if
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you remember, questions began with the csto, and then armenia refused to chair and recalled its secretary general, who was then, it was an armenian general then, yes , that is, even then it was clear that armenia would be torn away, the task was to be torn away from all integration associations, the cst would begin, then the attack on the eurasian economic system would begin. which the same united states has repeatedly called the reincarnation of the ussr stated clearly and unequivocally, we will oppose this in every possible way. integration associations in the post-soviet space, especially those associations that are made without the participation of the west, which are made for the benefit of the people living here, they will always sit like a bone in the throat, and it will be, there is a purposeful policy on some possible... armenia’s position here is not
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entirely honest, yes, demanding from the integration association, from the organization of the collective security treaty, to stand up for nagorno-karabakh, this demand was unlawful, because armenia itself did not even recognize nagorno-karabakh as some kind of sovereign state. karabakh was neither the territory of armenia nor was it even officially recognized by armenia itself last year, this year pashinyan spoke openly in including on european platforms, that in general karabakh is the territory of azerbaijan. yes, this was done and after that any, in fact, armenian political leader could have lost his points , which is what probably happened in reality, we... the situation that is inside armenia, now
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from here, we assess quite so, not always, understanding the nuances, but in fact, karabakh is a serious thing from an ideological point of view, such a serious thing, it is the same as kosovo for serbia, it is the same as kiev for russia, kiev is the mother of russian cities, kosovo is the place of the emergence of the serbian nation, karabakh, as part of the armenian people, and the fact that today as a result is the same as for the jews jerusalem, the temple, everything else, that is, these moments, they must always be taken into account, one must understand that politics are hostages of some historical things, facts, historical traditions , this is what pashinyan refused to defend karabakh, actually surrendered it himself, and now he is trying to shift responsibility for this to someone else, he cannot do otherwise, because otherwise he... will be like a politician
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a corpse inside armenia, but today he has to look for external support , parliament, which means we must understand what we should do, what we will never stop doing is to establish relations with the armenians and conduct dialogue, why? he has one dream for the west, to scold the entire post-soviet space, look how wisely lukashenko conducts the dialogue, it would seem that this is the situation, you can somehow answer sharply, somehow say sharply, the president, on the contrary, is sovereign. warns, means that, let's be careful, let's leave the channels communications, let's communicate, let's resolve controversial issues, this is a very important role of belarus in the post-soviet space, why do they want to argue... the second point, in the post-soviet space, they still say now the sovereignty of statehood, belarus, by the way, is one of those countries who are truly sovereign, but they must clearly understand, the west, or rather, many understand , unfortunately, many elites depend on the west, the west needs things to be bad around russia, they don’t need armenia to prosper, they don’t
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they need kazakhstan to prosper, they don’t need ukraine to prosper or belarus, they need things to be bad around russia, this weakens russia, this is an axiom and for one key point, it means when we talk about the actions of individual states, recognition, non-recognition of others states, their right to make independent decisions is one thing, but when we talk about unification. preserve these associations, demand strict compliance with these obligations from all members, in this case, in this case, the issue with armenia is
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a very important, principled issue, here maybe sometimes it is necessary to show greater adherence to principles, sometimes to show the strength of unification, but it did not come out formally, there were no necessary procedures, moldova, which is a member of the cis, which uses various treaties, today mayasandu’s policy in moldova is again leading it along this deadly path, sliding, we are waiting for the csto summit. but for now, but as long as pashinyan is in power, i say again, he will never turn towards our vector, he will play on the side of the united states, definitely, yes, and the united states, too unfortunately, we are talking, olek segheevich said there, there are long-term periods , they will ignite yet more points
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of conflict in all of us, we need to understand one thing, armenia is in a very difficult situation, its only ally, by and large, is russia , block formed. a small remark, you can talk about a lot, but you need to show people what these territories have become, i had the opportunity to visit there not long ago, it’s scary, these lands were not needed by armenia, this is probably the main thing, what they turned into is... . the tragedy of these territories, and of course, people, seeing this, will be able to draw the appropriate conclusions, i will transform this into our country , this cannot be allowed, we continue
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, now of course the middle east, we will talk about it, we hear a lot of loud words about it, we hear around , many empty words, many correct words. but i would like to show something else now, you know, a merciless reproach to the whole world, a norwegian doctor, matsh gilbert, he works as a surgeon at the alshifa hospital in gaza, listen there, although it is impossible not to hear them, the screams are behind, here this is how the gas sector sounds now, president biden, president biden, president biden, prime ministers and presidents of european countries, can you hear me? do you hear these screams from the alshi hospital, from the alkuts hospital, do you hear the screams of innocent people? these are refugees who came here in search of
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shelter, and israel bombed the hospital this morning. hospitals are temples of humanity, symbols of protection, when you stop this, you are all accomplices, look what happens, here is alexey nikolaevich, the pain is terrible on both sides, yes, we shouldn’t in no case should we forget that it was october 7, and he says that one side is good , the other side is bad, and no one, only... one of the sides has the truth, but those people who suffer from on the other hand, these are people who did not stir this pot, these are people whose decision does not depend... the situation in this region, these are ordinary people who, like ordinary people in all other parts of the world, want the same thing, peace, tranquility and so that their children live and
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their generations continue to live, that’s why to stop the gas sector from being this alshifa hospital, there is not enough will or something fundamental desire, that’s how you see it, well, excuse me, i’m a little, i’m very deeply immersed in this topic, very deeply, why, because i get it officially every week. from the embassy , which is stationed in the republic of belarus of palestine, real information, what is happening there, i even came to your show, i also have numbers that are increasing, unfortunately increasing, these are terrifying moments, i can say that during this period, that you named the date october 7 , the palestinian people were destroyed, simply destroyed, about more than 11,000, three more than 30,000 are people with serious wounds, 11,000 who... i named this not hamas fighters or men in the majority, these are 70% women and children, this is what is happening, if
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earlier we voiced and said the genocide of the jewish people, then i call this the genocide of the palestinian people, and the methods that are happening, for these, for this period 40,000 buildings, these are residential premises, this a hospital, that’s what the doctor said, destroyed, these are kindergartens, this is an educational institution, this is a normal process, this is how military operations are carried out when social facilities are destroyed, and when the military on the other side knows thoroughly that there are civilians, women and children, this is normal, this is not normal, then i want to say, look, for those who now in the comments will begin to be indignant that we took an anti-israeli position for palestine, in this case we understand perfectly well that
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allow, when it was, when it began conflict, initiated, of course, by hamas, but the fire was opened on military targets , not on socially significant ones, but everything went differently, further, it is not israel or palestine in this context that is to blame, as always from it we know what kind of forces , always fuel this conflict, the united states, further, i want another historical aspect, when in forty-seven, the fate of israel was decided at the un site, and when the un was a little different, then a decision was made to provide a little more than half of the palestinian territory for the location of the state of israel , but already in in the forties, in the forties, israel occupied almost 80% of the territory of palestine with military force, maybe someone who will correct me a little in the historical facts there, but this was during this war, in fact, did not subside,
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it was like a certain pause was built, but the shelling on the other hand, every year, every month, they continued, it is clearly clear why this is happening , there are several reasons, first, the palestinian-israeli conflict has a long history, external players, primarily the united states, themselves specifically made sure that this problem does not was has been resolved until today, i think... both germany and other countries, let me finish, i am not interrupting any of you, or i will interrupt everyone at every speech, which means that these external players did not specifically ensure that the conflict was resolved, it was the decision to create a palestinian state, it was unprofitable for them, why the conflict was needed, so that sooner or later at the right moment for the united states of america and other players, it would break out, blood would flow, they would earn money and resolve their issues, the second reason: destruction international law and discrediting international institutions. who did this?
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again the americans, again a unipolar world, by the way, the fault lies not only with the usa, but with those who destroyed the ussr, they destroyed the unipolar world. gorbachev, yeltsin, they should all be turning over in their graves, looking now at these footage from palestine and israel, their fault, when the ussr was in the middle east, there was peace, we left, everything broke out. this is the second reason: the united states invaded iraq, violated all the un charters that exist, bombed yugoslavia in violation of all international documents, who will now comply with international law, who, when it no longer exists, have violated it, and the third reason: the double standards of the west, which are not only in palestine and israel, but here in belarus on the border, where every day belarusian border guards and law enforcement agencies find corpses every day, everyone... international organizations are silent corpses every day, that’s why here too russia, when it carries out special operations,
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can’t do this, although russia carries out it, so much so. as far as possible, protecting ourselves, the russian people, and israel, and i repeat, we have a position for peace, anything is possible, we can hit hospitals, the western press calmly justifies this, these are the reasons for the current exchange of opinions, look, you probably heard the emergency meeting of the council of the league of arab states, on november 11, erdogan spoke there, who said, he expressed the general spirit of what was discussed there, israel should pay compensation to the palestinians and be held accountable for war crimes, the us and the west claim human rights but completely forgot about it in the face of action israel, as alex sergeevich just said, recently turkey filed a lawsuit against netanyahu in the international criminal court, accusing him of genocide in the gas sector, israeli prime minister netanyahu’s response to arab leaders, if you want to protect your interests, you
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must do one thing: be silent, you see, and there’s one more moment, the last one, that means, so that peace can come , imagine what, what, what should we do so that there is peace? china is for peace, there are major geopolitical powers that say: we need to start negotiations, russia, what says: start negotiations, china says start negotiations, who is against? one leading power, as it calls itself, the united states, if tomorrow biden called the prime minister of israel, said let ’s start negotiations, they would begin, but they specifically... i’ll see what ’s happening on the site, yes, you know, one of the examples, when ordinary people suffer from the actions of politicians, the common population suffers, everything was absolutely rightly said here that he will not solve this problem, this problem is not in the un, and its solution is not in plane of international law, these mechanisms
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no longer operate. and this must be recognized, this must be taken into account, and this must be taken into account, including by belarusians. there is such an obvious thing, yes, that this conflict has unconditional long-standing historical roots , and the fact that the rights of palestine were violated many years ago, back in the forties, when , by decision, by un resolution , the right to create two states was granted, israeli and palestinian, in fact from... with the help of their sponsors, at the same time there was a huge zionist movement all over the world, it was created in general at the end of the 19th century, huge amounts of money were accumulated, structures were created, there were people who at one certain moment simply came and took this power, but did not allow others to take it, did not give it to the palestinians, who had
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there were no such structures, such global support for world capital, but since then there has been discrimination against palestine. palestinian people, it must be understood that the conflict has been going on since the late forties because the palestinian right to and the right to have their own state, it has simply been violated, negotiations there were already numerous, there were aggravations, there was again this story, here a colleague recalled that there were conflicts with arab states, and the six-day war there and the yom kippur war, the conflict with egypt, the conflict with jordan, the conflict with libya, issues of occupied territories in the west on the west bank of the jordan river, the issue of the dutch heights illegally captured by israel, the issue of the seizure and appropriation by israel of all of jerusalem, which , according to the resolution, should be a city with a special status and should be divided into two parts,
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that is, for many decades, on the part of the state of israel, there were acts of outright violation of that international law, which... has been a question for centuries, and then there were double standards and approaches on the part of the west, some towards israel, others towards arabs and arab states, because how, how can we help the arabs there if they are friends with the soviet union, yes, let’s help our jews who are friends with us, and the jewish lobby is one of the most powerful, say, right in the united states of america, in parliament, in political elites, that is... conditionally, here there is a conflict between two world powers, the question is what to do specifically now, because those facts are terrifying, the worst thing is the murder of women, children, bombing of hospitals, bombing of schools, destruction of entire neighborhoods of kavroume, shelling by the state of israel, although they know very well that millions of people live there in a crowded place , innocent people will suffer, all this is an unacceptable
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moment, because israel... has now announced that it is for a specific targeted action by the hamas organization, which they consider terrorist, but this is also not a widespread point of view, well, okay, you consider hamas terrorists, fight hamas, why are you inflicting collective responsibility on an entire people, destroying this people, this is absolutely unacceptable, and the worst thing here is that now, now perversions have begun in the information sphere, when they sit to discredit the arabs, they say, look, we in hamas found a booklet about hitler in a storage room there, which means the palestinians supported hitler, the fascists, so now they have the right to take revenge, when such books are found among azov residents, when they cosplay, yes, dear participants of the program, you and i have a minute left
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, this will probably be enough for us, a short question, there is a global storm, we have the most important electoral exams for society ahead, how can we pass them with dignity, alexey nikolaevich, society must be consolidated and this is our task for political parties. with the president, she spent a long time, probably, the president devoted a very large part of his speech to precisely the need to hold the country before next challenges. and the key word for me is responsibility, responsibility, understanding that this depends on every belarusian, especially on the party leader and official and statesman, on anyone. thank you, alexander nikolaevich, the person is important in this consolidation within belarusian society. we don't need to leave. from the support of people, as soon as there is no internal stability, it will not be on the external contour, so this is one of those aspects that we will continue to take into account in our work and in the work
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of the political party, first of all, i think that when entering these upcoming election campaigns, the most important thing for us is to form a concept of why we are going there, what we want to achieve as a result, if we set ourselves the result of preserving a peaceful belarus, preserving it. everyone must understand that he wants people in parliament who will care about the country, who will really not destroy what has been developed, but will support and strengthen it. thank you very much for this conversation, everything is happy today.
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