[000:00:00;00] murders of frontmen, police officers, investigative committee officers, prosecutors in ukraine, and not only in ukraine, who did not agree to participate in these drug schemes , but unfortunately we are not talking only , to make it clear, i wanted to mention, you said, but organ trafficking, there are people, drugs, export works, according to europol from 2000 to 2015 from ukraine, moldova and georgia and romania. the compiled statistics were for 2015, 2 million women were trafficked , i emphasize, not for prostitution, but for sexual slavery, can you imagine what cynicism, that is, here is a living person, they come to him and say: you will work as a waitress or take care of sick people, and then they take away your documents, put you in a barracks and take them to the middle east or france,

where there are entire slave markets. to the middle east, to north africa , and you think that these people who do such things , some kind of moral mechanism inside will force them to make sure that children do not die from overdoses, by the way, the children's industry, and the porn industry is quite popular, video materials with the participation of children, and most terrible - this is the age from 3 months to 3 years, the most popular expensive videos, was ukraine the key source of these videos? according to some data, but i’m not sure that they are more, in fact on sites that are, in fact, relatively humane in nature, such as only funs, and up to 2,500 ukrainian women are registered, but i think that in reality there are much more, and if we talk about the dark segment of the darknet, such as videos like snaf with murders of people, then we simply do not understand

what volumes we are talking about. andrey petrovich, let's summarize our extremely complex and very unpleasant topic for me as a woman and mother, but it seems to me that we are doing the right thing by talking about this, of course, we need to talk about this, without any doubt, even if today we do the lion's share of everything - against the backdrop of all these drugs, they dedicated it to our fraternal neighboring ukraine, but it must be said that today nothing at all depends on the ukrainian people. the instructions that the owners give them will be carried out, we began to say at the very beginning of the program that it has turned into either a gray or a black zone, when the question begins to be discussed today related to whether to freeze the conflict, or to create conditions for peaceful negotiations and further peace, you know, i want to say, probably, don’t let god, god forbid, but that we freeze this armed conflict and

move on to some kind of peaceful conflict. even if the fact that russia gets part of its territories there, well , it’s close to getting such a gray zone that will continue, first of all, to disturb the peace peace, will sell drugs, will attract other criminals, we will get this by the twenty-fourth, 25th year, that all this riffraff will come to us, and russia will receive , in addition to the entire front that it has today, which will still have to to defend, it will be necessary to strengthen both bryanchin and belgorod. moreover, we will actually need to strain ourselves at a front of more than a thousand kilometers in order to protect our country, from this the formation and proxy forces of the west, so of course the question that we raised today, he does not live in a vacuum, he is very connected with politics, with the economy, and most importantly, with the military security of our state, all this must be considered only in its entirety,

thank you, vladimirovich, final: word 30 seconds, please, we are faced with a terrible problem, and this problem is, in fact, the basis of the modern world order, economic capitalism, in its wild form, uncontrolled by the state, society, begins to devour this society, our task is to stop not just some criminals in ukraine, but to change the very nature of the modern world system, thank you very much, to complete our interesting discussion on a very difficult topic, i would like to do this with the most... a famous drug dealer in history, colombian pablo escabar, somehow said: there is nothing worse than putting a person with personal problems in power. this is precisely the mistake that the ukrainian oligarchs made, and gullible voters unwittingly played along with them, and the whole world is dealing with the consequences of this. thank you, that was program sas is authorized to declare. ukraine under the leadership is rapidly

turning into... europe! remove the hell of the garadian metusna, here are your punishments and your strength. act in advance, so as to prepare for yourself, volition and stop the situation from hell in the moment, on the basis of the situation. yadnannya z prroday. dzikaya, old-timer, svyaya yelnya,

belarus nathnyaya. hello, the program “tell me not to be silent” is on air. victoria popova and tatyana sherbina in the studio. and today our guest is the chairman of the republican party of labor and justice , alexander khishnyak. good afternoon. good afternoon. hello. alexander nikolaevich, allow me to congratulate you on the party you lead, one of the few, or rather out of three, that has undergone re-registration. and today we have four parties with belaya russia, in principle, which make sense to talk about. you. not so long ago in september of twenty-two, they became chairman and in some interviews that we have already heard until today they said that before its registration in general, there were a lot of

disputes about whether it was needed, tell us how these disputes went and how you made the decision, it’s still final that to be such a party, before holding an extraordinary congress, raise the question: about the re-election of the leadership, which, by the way, i already said that for more than two years the party was without an elected leadership, elected by the congress , we are fine colleagues who were with me at that time decided to travel through all the regions of the republic of belarus, i’ll tell you, we traveled twice, and the first time just to understand whether there are party structures at all, whether there are people in them, whether is there individuals who could lead people in the sphere of party work,

too, right? only your party or the whole society in general, when you communicate with people, you get a cross-section, not only associated with our party of republican labor of justice, in general a cross-section of the attitude towards - this institution, society, and i want to say that initially, initially, i even in what -i was surprised that it seemed like 2 years... such a pause, yes, but people had a certain interest, meetings were held in different ways, each region is a territory that has its own characteristics, historical, including, for example, the way these meetings took place in the vitebsk region, in the mogilev region, in the grodno region, they were completely different, but we chose this, well, quite easy way to...

get together and just talk, in collectives, such as collectives, in meetings with activists, simply with everyone who at least somehow had an idea about this party, it’s just hard for me to imagine, i’m thinking about meetings, but it’s like going out to klenin square to say, premises, for example, in a cultural center or in some library, they gathered and just talked, listened to each other. you know, this had to be done, because in general this party needs to understand , first of all, people, whether there is interest in it, well, without this, further movement probably made no sense, and you know, interest was shown, people began to ask questions of what for what, how it could differ from others in this historical period, construction. political system, party

system, and a lot of different kinds were expressed, even there are enough of them critical remarks, they are in general, the media so widely, not in relation to our party, but in general to party building, they were covered, and i remember a meeting in one of the regions, when it was not a meeting, it was just a consultation with people. .. the contract form of employment, well, the question is directly related to labor, what is it , and not from the point of view of some problematic issues, from the point of view of its general application to specific ones. i shared

my experience with my colleagues, and we somehow moved this dialogue to the party system, and you suddenly felt how useful society could be, right? you know, to begin with, you always just need to talk to people, and without this, well, you can’t draw any conclusions , you went for the second round, why, for the second round we already went to prepare the congress, which means, in principle. we saw people on whom we could rely, then we held a congress and made a decision at the congress, it was a collegial decision, not mine, which means it was a collegial decision that we need to carry out the appropriate work and submit documents for re-registration, which we ultimately you did it, for which we congratulate you, thank you, by the way, here is the photo that we showed, it shows that your fellow party members are smiling, happy people, that is , really people who

are doing this for... not for show, this is not an easy formality, well, you know, in the year of our thirtieth anniversary, it would be wrong not to re-register, i’ve already talked about this, probably people noticed the joy on the faces of me and my colleagues, because it really was such a tense period and people just exhaled, that we succeeded, well, your experience as a lawyer, i i think it played positively, i hope so for the outcome? why were many parties unable to pass - although the president at the meeting said such a good phrase that thanks to re-registration it was possible to clear... the party field of decorative and destructive forces, well, that is, all the other 12 parties at that time were still listed, they they didn’t want to, or they simply didn’t even have a chance, well, you know, here we probably need to ask them first of all, why? someone applied for re-registration, did not pass it,

someone did not find the strength within themselves, but if you you are considered a political force, a definite one, you have a history, which means not trying to re-register, this is wrong, well , many talked about some difficult conditions, about 500 hours and so on among members, this complicated the process, but it seems to me that in a country of ten million , that is, you can’t gather 5,000 supporters among the able-bodied, even active, well, feasible in society , feasible, absolutely feasible, you agree , yes, this sense, he is like that... accordingly , they didn’t want to move, so there were reasons grounds, again, the legislation was revised, a new rule appeared that funding from abroad should not be allowed, from here the immediate conclusion is that we will probably

hear some statements that someone was not allowed to do this, apparently, but this is theirs problem. well, you, as a lawyer, tell me, should i go through this procedure, naturally, spontaneously, so i want to create some kind of party, now, well, any party, i can handle it, or do i need some, you don’t even need for this legal education, seriously, everything is just quite simple, very many forms, not even forms, requirements simply contain a list of data that you need to submit, and this is done in freedom. in a form convenient for you, the main thing is that this information is indicated in documents, whether in a table, or in a general list, that is, well , exaggerating, but nothing complicated in this regard, to which one could say that this is impossible, well, the basic requirements, you you know, the presence of structures in all regions and

minsk, and 1/3 of the districts should be represented by party structures in each region, well , a ban on funding: abroad, that’s it innovation in legislation regulating the activities of political parties. okay, alexander nikolaevich, please tell me, this question is inevitable, how does your party differ from others? well, the first thing that distinguishes our party from others is the name , well, this is logical, the first point that we always pay attention to, and those things that are already declared in the name. this is labor justice, after all, unlike, probably, other structural parties, including parties, we consider labor not only as a way to work, earn

money, labor are the basis of the existence of the state, at this time, this is very important , in fact, not only because it is necessary to consolidate society, but labor... without labor there will be no further development, well, i don’t know, are the communists labourers? or slackers and liberals or against justice, you know, we will not criticize the communists, but this aspect, this aspect, no one, at least from those programs that i know, is considering, but as for justice, the request justice in world, it is only growing, and this is not only true in part. this includes justice within the state, justice to the state on the external contours and a very broad, comprehensive concept, many say that justice does not exist, but nevertheless, justice, it should be for the people who live with us, including, well, about labor justice

, we have the federation of trade unions in belarus, and if before our meeting i still thought that, well, why then a party that also... stands for labor justice for an individual person, and you seem to be talking about the state, about the good of the whole country, well, after all , trade unions are a public organization, and the subject composition of trade unions is not only citizens of the republic of belarus, these are stateless persons , foreign citizens who. .. the right to work to protect one’s labor and social interests, in terms of labor and social interests, of course, we absolutely all, not only the republican party of labor , overlaps, well, i will say that probably

all parties have something to do with this, but after all, the party sets itself slightly different goals, it is a political institution that represents the interests of citizens in power, and one of the not only task-oriented responsibilities of the party is participation in elections, representing the interests of citizens during the electoral system; trade unions do not have such a function. any party, if you remember ilinin’s testament , i’m sure you’ve read them, it should be in the vanguard, anticipate some public demands, look, labor justice is what our state, it defends without of all sorts of parties throughout its thirty-year history of independence, when you proclaim that you are the party of labor of justice and register, you declare some kind of ambition. which? we, like any political party, declare ambitions

to represent the interests of citizens in local councils in the house of representatives, and , accordingly, through elected deputies, in the all-belarusian people's assembly. well, let 's also listen to what your fellow party members think about you to find out that you are still a young leader, you only took over the leadership in 2022 parties. here, in particular, what about you, the deputy of the house of representatives oksana gaiduk told us, and your fellow party member, let’s listen, the party introduced us to alexander nikolaevvich in 2016, since then we have been working very closely with him , collaborating, and not only within the walls of the party , but on the platform of the parliament of our country, what i would like to personally note, as about a person , and a leader, as well as the leader of the party, labor and justice, is a person who, and

is a new formation, as i call it, a leader, and the rules of three , this is a patriot of his country, and this is a professional in his field, and this is a very decent person , so when such three qualities are combined in one person, then this is, of course, a leader, this is a person who knows how to persuade, at the moment it is very important when people hear , they listen and follow such a person, so i believe that our party leader is a very worthy person , a professional and a patriot, probably this will be the answer to the question why your candidacy was put forward then in 2022, probably, and also to me liked it, introduced me party, this sounds fresh, well, in fact, i am from the republican

party of labor of justice, i was nominated in the minsk city council of deputies, which means that many colleagues were nominated to the house of representatives from the party and the party is parliamentary, so , of course, it’s nice to hear this, but from the other side , this also imposes a number of obligations regarding further work. and great responsibility , we know that you are still a scientist, uh, two dissertations, yes, you had attempts, but how did you earn the first ruble, remember? i remember, of course, it so happened that i am now working in the construction industry, this enterprise is subordinate to the ministry of architecture and construction of the republic of belarus, i earned my first ruble at a construction site, what kind of work did you do? the most unskilled, shovel.

that means carrying heavy loads, doing auxiliary work, and then, having gained a little experience , i had to be a slinger somewhere, a carpenter-concrete worker, but i started with hard physical labor, i can do a lot of things with my hands, of course i don’t have enough for everything time, but i want to say that that time taught me a lot and something... which i probably never talked about, for some reason i wanted to learn, and i’ll explain, this, i can explain this to you too, but it was a certain incentive , including in order to engage in self-improvement, well, not only in terms of the physical, but look, when you are now building cities, you have projects that you are proud of, of course, of course. you know, these projects are widely

heard, these are absolute satellite cities, this is certainly a great chinese-belarusian industrial park... stone is really a project that has not existed in belarus before, we developed industrial territories, but projects of this scale, using world experience, including chinese, and not only chinese, this is a project with which it was not easy, but ostrovets? the city of power engineers ostrovets, yes, but i want to say that - approaches to the construction of these cities, namely cities, as if in addition to the enterprise, they are in sovetsky union were not bad and we are like that here, well, we didn’t implement something new, we just took advantage of the experience that we had, and there are also several such non-standard solutions, in terms of a comfortable living

environment, it’s also a beautiful city, but what are you in general, about the system as a whole... you know, we call it the urban planning vertical , no matter how anyone relates to this, but it is a very clear system, it is very centralized, the state sets the rules for development, these rules are clear, they are constantly being improved, but here's what i want to say, that the belarusian system of territorial planning, urban planning, it took everything... from the soviet system, that is, it did not destroy it, and if we talk about international experience, everyone respects china, china has fully implemented the soviet system, it still uses it , i think it one of the best in the field of territory development, i agree, and as a passionate motorist, i notice all these interchanges, which are much better than many places in europe, today we have done it between

cities, the scale of china is amazing in everything, yours participation in this so that the audience already understands, one must understand that everything related to the development of the territory, urbanism, and so on, is a complex work, absolutely not of one person, architects, engineers, specialists in the field of transport, ecology are involved including lawyers, my area is the management of this process and discussion and control, and often making many decisions , what objects will be, for what year they are currently planned, here are the plans, for what year we currently have plans, they have several stages , and usually the object it is planned for 5 years, the first stage is for 10, a little more, the second, we are looking only for 10 years, so far ahead, but the fact is that in the planning of settlements, trends are being laid

that are far-reaching, including, there are projects for a fairly long period who see the territory even after 50 years, then after a pause, let’s discuss your experience, how it was useful for urban planning in the construction of the party, but for now let’s pause for a while, i remind you that we have a telegram channel, say don’t be silent, subscribe, ask questions and invite guests, we are in touch. alexander nikolaevich, a man of work, is necessarily a representative of some kind of profession engaged in physical labor, or for example, an it specialist is also a man of work, a man of work is also an it specialist, a scientist, and certainly people of working

professions, managers, and ordinary people, the program is on air again, say don’t be silent, and today we have a guest: the leader of the republican justice labor party, alexander khizhnyak. alexander nikolaevich, well, we already talked, we mentioned that the party is already 30 years, during this time it went through, well, completely different stages, a lot happened, how many party members survived, from the original composition. few people know that the republican justice labor party was created on the basis of the visually impaired society. it was precisely those people who valued work due to their certain characteristics , and the backbone of the party was formed, among these people, unfortunately, many of them are no longer alive, but uh, it was from there that the first leader of the party came out

and said that these people were just members well, that means offending them. and uh, many of the people are now of retirement age, and these are different people by the way, they still retained membership in the party, no matter what. and now in the party there are absolutely different categories of people, people of labor, these are blue-collar workers, of course, and people of intellectual labor, representatives of science, government officials , among others, these are absolutely different people who are close to these ideas, this is probably correct, because cannot be concentrated on any one category of citizens, but the rest are just rubbish. well, if you read the programs of all four currently presented in our party, then yours is the most centrist, calm, without exclamation marks, which means that there really

is a demand for justice for the work of the deceased, yes, but i would like to know, in the twentieth year, what happened to the party and it was shaken somewhere, you came into contact with the hate and then stopped altogether. yes, there was silence, a pause, as you yourself said, two years in the activities of your party, what was it, in the twentieth year, and what helped you to resist the main thing in your opinion? you know, in the twentieth year, the party actively took part in the electoral process, including the party did not nominate its candidate in the presidential elections, it supported the current head of state, alexander grigorvich lukashenko. and the party was very active in organizing the electoral process, a lot of people were on the election commissions , there were a lot of observers, and i had

to lead this work, but there was a pause because of - probably some , let's call it this, misunderstanding within the leadership, within the party leadership, yes, within the top. the leadership of the party, that’s why this pause was formed, i say it as it is, without pretense, because people should know this, in the history of the party, this is not some kind of frozen formation, this is a living organism, it is necessary, it is necessary, it is necessary to go through various periods, well, this one has passed , well, what do you think helped, to get together, mobilize, register, there was a concentration of efforts of caring people, this work took place at the base

the current deputy corps, caring people who survived, including in the twentieth year, and came to understand , at the same time, that it is necessary to do this work, and without them, of course, without my colleagues, this would not have happened. today you have 6,500 people, more than 6, 6,626, it’s like the arena of a slavic bazaar, you can hold another congress there, i’ll give you an idea, a good idea, the vitemski summer amphitheater, and perhaps someday such a congress will take place , who now leads the party besides you, well, firstly, i would like to name my deputies, this is stativ kazhana, a member of parliament, she heads the brest regional organization, is my deputy and heads the executive

body of the party, the political executive committee. komarovsky, igor, a member of parliament, is also my deputy, but in parliament he heads the commission on the fuel and energy complex , transport, and communications energy. do you think the asset is now ready to move forward? for the elections to the house of representatives, this work is underway, with the leaders of other parties, as far as we elections will be nominated for local elections, we know you have a good relationship, now a question for you will come from the leader of the liberal democratic party of belarus oleg sergevich gaidukevich, attention to the screen, alexander nikolaevich, good afternoon, i respect you as a person, as a patriot, as professional i am good with friendship, i am very glad that all the leaders of the four political parties registered in the country communicate with each other, are friends, despite the fact that sometimes we argue, this is normal, but we defend

our country together, i have a simple question, here my watch, commander's beam, very good, i really like the quality of this watch, what kind of watch do you have and how do you, as a party leader , feel about belarusians? i am convinced that together we should support, of course, be proud of national, including national brands , by the fact that... what the republic of belarus is doing, which means that while in belarus there are no smart watches that i use to communicate with my phone, but clothes, shoes, that means many, many things that i have home, including household appliances, is belarusian production, we should be proud of our industry, including, and one of the areas, including communications with

ours, including the promotion of belarusian brands. well, the fact is that olek segheevich is able to promote brands. it seems to me that no one doubts it at all, starting with himself, well, this is just the king of pr, here, i learned your name recently, what do you think about self-pr? here, it is important not to cross the line and not get rejected by people. we need to go into the media space, and we are entering the media space, and not only me, but also my colleagues, deputies, our people, party officials, are working on this, and i want to say that perhaps we were a little less active than our colleagues, due to the fact that we could not say before we do, at least we will have some kind of... this

activity, which we still consider the re-registration of parties, well, in terms of promoting brands, it does not happen that one country produces absolutely everything that a person needs, but respect, belarusian, respect what is made by the hands of our people, here i absolutely agree, it is necessary and it is also necessary to promote it, alexander, nikolaevich, another question, look, we generally went to this party building for a long time, there were a lot of disputes and, well, if so, hand on heart, then 6,500 people is not much, a little, a little at all, that is, these are some active people who are looking for some kind of political life, other than the life that they currently have, but - here’s another one that confuses us with tatyana, loophole, yes, you ,

when... you are nominated for deputy, you must go around many, many roads and people and introduce yourself and present yourself so that they vote for you, but as a member of the party you may not automatically collect signatures for nomination, get somewhere and upward, into the party for a deputy seat, i mean to become a deputy in order to support, among other things, the name of the party, right? you can’t nominate random people as deputies, the hope is that the belarusian people will vote for random people, you don’t have to believe in it, people always vote for successful people who do something from represent themselves, this does not mean that today you joined the party, and tomorrow you will become a candidate for the chamber, no, none

of the... parties nominate random people, i think that my colleagues absolutely also understand this system, and there are different mechanisms within the party for this person to be nominated to local councils and especially to the house of representatives, one of such mechanisms is collegial decision-making, which means we nominate, for example, to the house of representatives of the congress, that is, a person needs know, understand. what he, how many people he is in the party and people who have been there for a short time and have not shown themselves in any way, no one will nominate, and that is , you have some other filter going on inside the party, and the courtyard of any organization, be it a public association, a political party , personnel filter, if i have a mandate from this party or somehow with your party card, i’ll go

register myself without your from the party, it ’s impossible to do this, but if a person, let’s say, he doesn’t come from the party, this is how he will collect signatures, but hide behind the party he's the ticket does not have the right, that is, then you can immediately, it is a person’s right to be nominated in several ways, a person can collect signatures and be nominated from the party, by the way, i was nominated in two ways, i was nominated in the minsk city council department from the eighth convocation by collecting signatures, we collected more than 3,000 signatures, both from the party, so i used it simultaneously in one convocation, yes, that is. and why did you decide in two ways, that is, you wanted to enlist the support of people for yourself, and well, knowing that you will also pass from the party, or this or

on the contrary, from uncertainty, you know why, from uncertainty, collecting signatures is such an event that will allow you to communicate with people, including people you can recognize, they write books for collecting signatures, well, collecting signatures is such, you know, her, this work can be assessed in different ways, yes, some party structures had professional signature collectors and this is no secret, there are a lot of reports and articles and opinions about this in the media space, and even fees are known, and even fees are known about random people, here you said that our people are not will vote for random people, if you follow the international agenda, you know what happened in argentina , who has now come to power there, some populist, who, first, one of his first statements was, why do we need so many ministries, eight of

they need to be eliminated immediately, the ministry of health gave it, the ministry of labor and social protection gave it , he doesn’t need the ministry of education either, such populists won’t even get into deputies in our country. are you sure that someone elected him? this is a different issue in the country there must be mechanisms, and such mechanisms have been created in the republic of belarus, including the all-belarusian people's assembly, this is the highest representative body, this body, even though we will be electing it for the first time and its history is just beginning, has very broad powers, in part, in part , including, precipitation of people who came into politics by chance and or came on their own , with some dubious things, but yes, this is the first time we will test this mechanism, so it remains to be seen how it will manifest itself, well, we have to

try, even on grigory zaarenok’s stream they recently discussed party building, political scientist and philosopher alexey dermant made a proposal, let’s listen to him. when the president met with party leaders, he said that you should not isolate yourself, that is, you need to attract professionals, and authoritative people, and people, but i would say ideological ones, this is the proposal in every party, in fact there should be internal self-control, a certain structure that should monitor. this is the internal, if you like, counterintelligence, yes, so that no traitor, no nuvarish, no corrupt official gets there and then discredits this party, i propose to just

think about this seriously, and these structures should be headed by real ideological people, and unmercenaries who cannot be bought, and their opinion is also well be taken into account in party building, these are the mechanisms of internal self-control in each party , it seems to me, there should be, 100%, support alexei valerievich, you know, these mechanisms will emerge in our country in any case, and yes, we really need control inside, we need work with people, we need to consider various candidates who are, therefore, not only within the party, but from those people who come to the party, yes, we need to work with this, this is the mechanism, that is , here we are, here alexey valerievich proposes to create directly a system, there is some kind of counterintelligence, there is almost darkness

, and people must be ideological , but how to check this, well, what kind of apparatus will they use to check these people, ideological and disinterested, to whom money does not stick or what? you know, uh, someone else's soul darkness, to get into the soul, well, so far such mechanisms are probably reliable, we have not yet created this structure itself, neither the party, nor the supreme national assembly, nothing has worked yet, but we already need some kind of superstructures, some kind of control bodies, well let this train go, you know, here, the main thing here is to find a balance between control as a form, in management science, among other things, there are very different studies in terms of control functions, yes, when control is needed. are there resources for control,

will control not absorb the very essence of the process and business, which has also happened more than once in history, yes, something similar will probably be worked out in batches, but i would like to draw your attention to the fact that when solving this problem, the one voiced by a colleague, you must not cross the line between possibility convey an opinion, but opinions may be different. let him distort this opinion somewhere, so that it does not interfere , that is, control should not interfere with discussions, such broad representation, meetings, why we do all this in general, so that people can express different opinions, develop some kind of unified position that will suit everyone. when a decision is made, this

is the essence of party discipline, an exchange of opinions is good, but when a decision is made and most of the decisions in accordance with the charters are made collectively, well, a party member must follow the party line and continue, well, society still learns lessons from those historical events that... passes and the most important thing that the twentieth year showed is that there is no need to solve problems on the street, there are a lot of institutions for this, and public organizations, political parties, and it is important to convey these different points of view to those people who make decisions, this is probably the most important purpose of the system that we are building now, so i have, yes, it also seems to me that the year is reversed communication has improved a lot, right?

well, we have always had feedback at all levels, well, maybe, you know, for some time it became so formulaic, but now it seems to me, well, at least at those levels where i can observe it, there is such compassion both from those who apply and those who, well, we still orient people to the fact that they cannot simply... be guided by the principle: do they owe me or do you owe? a person must be self-sufficient in terms of expressing opinions, and who is heard , i have also spoken about this many times, they hear those who represent something, in the workshop they hear the one who is a professional in the first place, the one who will not just shake the air, this... must be taken into account, and i ’ll tell you, in a work environment this manifests itself

especially, even in comparison with others spheres, here and before, that is, the setup foreman is not an anecdotal figure , you know, this is also, these are managers, i ’ll tell you, managing a construction site is quite difficult, and no less difficult than leading a party, because it is to link all those processes, this is no less significant than the leadership of a party or some kind of collective, respect, the authority of people, a good leader needs to be earned by his own deeds, it just doesn’t work out that way , and now we’ll take a break for a while, after a short pause we’ll return to this studio again,

for now, subscribe to our telegram channel, as a member of the minsk city council, what questions and requests did people most often turn to you with, what issues did you most often have to resolve? people addressed completely different life issues, often just for consultations, but the hit of the appeal was, of course, the housing and communal services sector, the sphere of school children's, preschool institutions, i have the kamennaya gorka district, and there was a period when there was a very tense situation with the availability of places in kindergartens and schools, so with these they ask questions, this is the program, don’t be silent, our guest is the chairman of labor and justice, alexander khishnyak. alexander nikolaevich, again about the recognition of your

party, how you plan to popularize the party of famous artists and personalities. personalities, so i think we will form them into famous people in the media space. after 1991, after the collapse of the union, being a member of the party, well, was considered, so to speak , unpopular; the statement that he was a member brought a person much more points. non-party, in the elections he accordingly had, well, more chances, yes, what is the situation now, the parties are recruiting. in that period, historically, this was associated with negativity towards the party , which was the ruling party, let’s call it that, and in fact, the state apparatus and the party were a single structure, and what is there to hide, but uh, over time the situation

changes, the presence on the political field , various kinds of institutions, and... not a single political party, this speaks of a pluralism of opinions, including the ability of people to choose what they like best. and by the way, in belarus in this part of society there are a lot of institutions of society that could occupy a person, well, at the very beginning, these are youth public organizations, public organizations, which means in which any citizen, according to his interests, can, in fact, find social work , already at the top, these are political parties, where there is interest in the field of the electoral system, we have this, that is, you have some kind of value, an idea of ​​\u200b\u200bat what age you can

join your party, well not after school, i i will say that this person should succeed if the person can follow the trend , the head of state spoke about the need for party building, which means everyone took it and ran there, absolutely not, we are not chasing membership, here we need to find a balance between the number and quality of these people and awareness of their actions, and i would still like to work in this direction too, today you have a lot of young people in your ranks, i won’t say that these are our main members, but uh, recently their number has grown, as has the number of middle -aged people, but how do you explain this, what did you manage to attract? you know, it’s possible there ’s a mix of such factors, yes, so i still

think that, uh, this is the period when the party was in such a pause. let's call it that, it means that we wanted some kind of movement forward, it is always active, caring people , primarily the middle generation and the younger generation, now this trend is gaining momentum a little, and with the events that have been happening lately , yes and the election campaign will contribute to this, and i want to say that interest in the parties... this means that it was also raised or restored during the discussion, at the constitutional commissions, of the constitution, when the issue was considered, including in the supreme national assembly, then there is a way in which political parties will be represented, they will be represented only through elected deputies, and

this is a certain incentive, perhaps people feel it, let's see, they feel an opportunity... including, and no matter how anyone says, this is a social elevator, this is not just get some experience, but if you declare yourself, if you say that you are a successful person, why not try? you are absolutely right, alexander nikolaevich, for several years now, in this studio, we have been observing sharp jumps in this very elevator, namely active citizens, including young people who joined the party yesterday. and tomorrow they are already managing factories, well, such cases also happen, there are people who can possibly succeed, there are not many of them, you cannot take a person from school and put him in charge of a factory, you you know, it’s very difficult to earn authority

among the team, it won’t happen right away, if the team believes, you can do a lot in your team, you need to be a decent person , first of all, to find this line between. in this speech of yours, i felt like one of your three sons, and the father’s admonition that not everything at once, dear ones, they listen to me, and we also listened to you with pleasure today, thank you very much for this meeting, for our acquaintance, we hope you really don't waste words and show your activity and come to us more than once; closer to the elections we will meet to compare notes. we will be glad to see you, but your watch is no better, but it shows the correct time. tatyana sherbina, victoria popova, we say goodbye to you for today, goodbye, goodbye, and now

alexander khizhnyak is speaking. i would like to thank my colleagues who were with me during the difficult work of re-registration and encourage them to continue constructive work. and also encourage our citizens to join the republican party. labor in fairness, thank you, alexander nikolaevich, according to tradition, i will ask you to leave your autograph, as a keepsake for us and

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