zineida andreevna, if we were communicating in english, i would probably have to start our conversation with the phrase “how are you”, what would you answer? thanks, and what is this in russian? thank you, quite well, too, that is, everything is fine. the only obvious thing is that my english needs to be improved. but we'll talk about this. my guest devoted her entire life to linguistics and her beloved university. 58 years of experience and teaching experience, thousands of scientific papers and grateful students. today my guest is doctor of philology, professor: department of general linguistics, minsk

state linguistic university zinaida kharitonchik. zineida andreevna, hello. english teachers don’t come to visit me very often, in fact, you are the first, and therefore i have a lot of questions, and the first of them is: is it possible to learn english at a sufficiently professional level at the age of 60? i think it is possible, but very difficult. it all depends. on your motivation, on how you are going to learn new things language for you, and although these are some innate abilities that children have, it remains, but not to the same extent, but different people, different abilities, different diligence, different motivation, that is... too many

different factors that, accordingly , influence the success, or even failure, of solving this problem. is there any point in taking english courses for children who cannot yet write or read? i’ll be honest, i personally don’t see such a big point; i have experience teaching english. v kindergarten, when i was a student, i worked part-time and, accordingly, i taught english for children in the middle and senior groups of kindergarten. on the one hand, children absolutely easily learn some words, some songs, some poems and even some grammatical patterns; these are children of middle and older groups. and you are talking about

children of an even younger age, i would even say that it is quite possible, i am mistaken, that this is a dangerous undertaking, because the child begins to learn his native language, and for in order to master his native language, he needs to do a huge , difficult job, after receiving what we call his native language, he needs to learn the declination, conjugation, and then he also needs to learn syntactic patterns of construction, and this is a huge intellectual work,

imagine that you are entrusting another task to a child: to learn another language in the same way, and then there are medical issues, added, whether the child’s psyche can withstand it, so i remember my childhood, and learning english began in the fifth grade , probably when the child has already grown up and is ready to perceive the whole complex of necessary knowledge that he will teach, only at this age, well , ushinsky once emphasized that learning a foreign language can only begin when the native language has been properly mastered , that is, well, not earlier than 7 years, at least, well, here very often parents are in a very, very hurry, although there is an undoubted benefit of learning a foreign language for

do you think it is possible to quickly learn the same english language, or is this a publicity stunt? there is so-called intensive language training courses, they imply certain methods, they imply a certain frequency of classes, if you agree, say , several hours a day, every day of the week , to devote to learning foreign... languages , you will succeed to some extent, to what extent -the degree is provided, again, there is experience in such training, but the first thing you need to understand is what knowledge of a language is, what you mean by the concept

of knowledge of a language, because it is quite possible to know several formulas for everyday communication, and this... is called knowing the language or even just knowing the greeting and this is also knowing the language, and another thing is knowing the language for more serious purposes, then those skills that are seemingly primary and sufficient for certain purposes turn out to be insufficient for more deep, serious goals, that is, i understand that the issue of mastering english... the language, let’s say, it cannot be common to all people who want to master the english language, everything really, as you said, depends on the goal that is set there's a man in front of me, well

let’s say, if you just learn a spoken language, that’s how many days a week is needed so that in a year, well, you can start speaking so that you are understood, and how intensively you will study it, i have my own experience of teaching english... the language of a person, a candidate sciences, biological sciences, who was supposed to go to america in 3-4 months, in 2 months he set the task of learning english, but he studied every day at 8 o’clock, he coped with it, he passed the necessary exam, well, in order to master english , it is necessary to communicate with a native speaker... of the language, not at all, moreover, i ask students quite often, do you think it is much better to study a language in the country of the language being studied, or, say, minskomiz, they

answer, not quite understanding the essence of the question in the country, i say, well then, repeat that intellectual work of the child, communication with a native speaker gives you the opportunity to train, master the skills that you learned earlier with a teacher who is most often not a native speaker, a native speaker, and also very often not a teacher, not a methodologist, and does not understand either the structure of language, or the role...' of certain phenomena in the language system and does not understand at all how to teach this. do you have any specific recipe of your own, thanks to which you can quite successfully master the english language? well, i can say

that there is generally a single recipe for everyone, it’s work. how much time does it take to learn to think? in english, but we most often translate from russian into english, no, a thought is born in english, a thought as soon as you you switch to the system of one language or another, your thought receives form in the units of this language, there is a switch, very, very peculiar, from one language system to another. zineida andreevna, is there a genetic predisposition to learning languages? i think that there is some predisposition to master certain skills, let’s say, probably, probably, but i

can’t be sure here, there are certain inclinations of mathematical thinking. some philological inclinations, they are associated with some, not everyone becomes. to eat means, and accordingly, to master a language, we see that there are people who are humanists, and there are, rather, naturalists, by the way, it’s no secret that there is a certain number of people who simultaneously speak several languages, polyglots, which means there is a predisposition, there is , after all, well, polyglots, it seems to me that this is more likely not... just a predisposition to learning languages, although it probably also has something to do with this, this also

takes place, and polyglots are people who either set as their goal, due to certain the need to learn several languages, or very often find themselves in situations where they need to learn one or another additional language. i heard that people with an ear for music learn a foreign language faster and easier? they learn, i can say this from personal experience, i am deprived of an ear for music, and for me in the first year it was a very very difficult task, to master the fanatical system of the english language, the phonological system, i saw how my fellow students learned it much easier, for me i should have put more work into this. yes, that is, this is the melody of the language, of course, and the intonation is easier, and the sounds themselves, not to mention

all sorts of articulatory changes, but if i did this, i rather read the theory and rationally solved these issues, this is the biggest phobia for foreign language learners - this is the fear of making a mistake, that’s what you would advise in order to... just don’t be afraid to speak, this very often arises as a result of the constant correction of mistakes made by a speaker, a beginner, a speaker of the language as a teacher, because teachers, realizing this more and more often, they refuse to directly correct the error, then these errors in specially prepared exercises, that is, the teacher

is obliged to work on this, but he will not create that fear of making a mistake, which is often observed, but a certain fear to speak incorrectly, to speak incorrectly, not as normatively, not as a native speaker, it is overcome as soon as you enter into communication, can you somehow treat this as a game? you can, like this, all your life is a game, like it’s sung, but we don’t always speak our native language correctly, and we make a lot of mistakes, despite even, i emphasize, even our philological education, over the years of teaching hundreds of applicants have passed through you, and hence the question: is it possible to learn english without tutors in a regular high school and then go to

a linguistic university? i think it’s possible, and moreover, uh, a tutor appears when a person doesn’t do enough work at school, either on his own, or due to the teacher’s not being quite competent, but i can... right away to be honest, i can’t really cover this question, because i haven’t taken entrance exams for a long time, well then i have one more question, that’s where this stereotype came from, that school english, well, it doesn’t make any sense and you simply can’t do without a tutor, but i can ask a question: in relation to mathematics or physics, there is no such thing, such an illusion, because... in the same way, then, in the social consciousness, a tutor is required in mathematics,

biology, physics, they resort to their creep, and this speaks of our distrust of school , and what is better, online or direct communication with the teacher, direct communication is clear, what is this advantage - in the presence of live contact, which also involves a channel... not just a message, but an emotional channel, a channel , i would say, energetically, i’m currently reading online lectures in... it’s worse , i’ve never had a harder task in my life, what would you advise parents if their child doesn’t like english or some other foreign language , change teachers, foreign language - this is not just a tool for communication with

other communities; a foreign language is the development of creativity. which is associated with a completely new view of the world around us, and accordingly, this is a new vision, new thinking, one might say, and the new thinking is interesting, intriguing, i will give the following question that i like to ask students, i ask them in english, how much do you have fingers, ask in english, you have 10, you are great, many students say 20, 20, and then i immediately ask: show me please, your 20 fingers , but you can’t show it, in russian we have 20 fingers,

in english we actually have, to be extremely precise, eight fingers, yeah. here you go, this is a little different, well, yes, a vision, andreevna, where did your passion for the english language begin? i can’t even tell you for sure, because at school i was interested in physics, and accordingly i was going to enter the radio engineering institute then, but since for me... drawing was not the most pleasant activity for me and i somehow gave up radio engineering and quite accidentally chose inyaz, but it was english, although i studied german at school, and then i never regretted my choice for a second.

when did you realize that you wanted to connect your life with linguistics? it came even after graduation, when i started working as a teacher, i worked for 3 years as a teacher in the department of lexicology and stylistics of the english language, and accordingly, i had already somewhat mastered the program that i was supposed to teach, and i became interested in how we were introduced to it. .. time, different courses, different lectures from different professors, and this interested me , and accordingly i decided to enroll in graduate school, and at the same time i had the opportunity to enroll in graduate school in the specialty of psychology, and although psychology

is one of the most interesting disciplines, so i said that i... i can’t do english , i can’t do linguistics, and accordingly, i entered the moscow state pedagogical institute named after maris teresa for graduate school in the department of lexicology and stylistics, in my native department, but what happened the most difficult thing in learning, i would say not so much in teaching, although i remember work that was very difficult for me, even after the so-called doctoral studies. there are works that, due to the fact that you have not specialized in this area, are very, very difficult for you to understand. in minsk , the state linguistic university, then the institute of foreign languages, you came

when you were 16 years old, what was your institute like then? there was, uh, if we talk about the uh, physical side, one building, now known as building b. we have there was one english language classroom with several tape recorders, which we, where there were recordings that we could, so we had to sit in this classroom, of course, such technical means were conducive to the study of a foreign language... as now it was impossible to even dream of it. what achievements of your students are you proud of? well, first of all, i am very, very happy and proud of those students who continued their studies in graduate school or even doctoral studies, wrote research papers and dissertations. i

am proud of my students who have become give lectures and, moreover, you yourself have become academic supervisors, each teacher chooses his own approach to each student, what is special about your method? respect for the student. this, i think, is the starting position from which communication with the student begins. the student will not forgive either contempt or condescension, or any other attitude other than respect. another thing is that in the process of communication he may lose my respect, being lazy, unscrupulous, and so on and so forth. but you can also train people who, say, are qualified, i

i emphasize the word qualified, not at all, this does not mean that they really are not smart, not capable, and so on, but very often we see them, we describe them as, but if...' the teacher really masters his subject, understands it deeply, he is able to convey it simply and clearly, and if there is this clarity in the presentation of the material, then this determines the ease of understanding it, but which ones are more difficult? with the nulliparous? with the careless there is a student who does not care when a person makes a mistake and continues

to insist on it, this is an unhappy person, and its lack of birth is rather a consequence, of course, language is a living organism, it is constantly changing, how do you maintain your professional level , i maintain my professional level by constantly reading, constantly participating in conferences where you have the opportunity to hear very, very original concepts, hearing the most original ideas, generally attending a conference, as i understand it, for me, this is 2-3 months of work in the library, that is, there is a huge number of people gathered together in one... space, in one time, at you have the opportunity to get acquainted with their ideas, the teacher, he, he is like an artist, he is always in sight, this requires some large

physical, and some equal, moral costs, and how do you relax, in the forest, in the country, uh, digging, if possible, in the beds with pleasure, walking through the forest near the lake, and so on, and so on, and so on, but before this year, of course, there was a change somewhere, the environment, i didn’t i'm an urbanist, so as a rule i try to leave the city, but i can't imagine an idle holiday on seashore. i’m bored, but i can travel around the area, and i generally love traveling, in this regard i have traveled very, very much,

our program is called the meaning of life, for you, what is the meaning of life? but for me, life is an activity, the direction of this activity, its main guidelines are determined by everyone themselves, and therefore... as important as this is to me, it is only that you accept that life is an activity, this seems to me the most important. zinida andreevna, thank you so much for taking part in our program, for a very interesting and, well, just some kind of educational program, i am very very grateful to you , all the best to you, thank you, thank you, i felt the same way... i think that an invitation to your program is a big thing for me honor, since i am just an ordinary belarusian

professor, this was the meaning of life zinaiddy kharitonchik, the heroes of this program chose to live outside the city. this is not a family thing, all of our uncles and great-grandfathers lived in their houses and farms. we arrived in the forest, here, here we are more closely related.

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