[000:00:00;00] the inclusion of a military expert from russia alexander artamonov, although if you think about it, probably all serious experts have recently had a military bias, i propose to start with this, why, because if we look at the ongoing processes, we will see that all these outdated conflicts, they began to open up like abscesses, there was karabakh, ukraine, the middle east, the feeling that everyone had decided for themselves that there would be no more audits, there would be no more delays for later, at any cost, no matter what, we right now let's deal with these problems, otherwise we simply won't go any further. if you follow this logic, then the conclusion suggests itself that the world, in such a situation, has two options: either it will be finished off completely, or we will finally jump out of this old principle, from this paradigm of controlled chaos. but we, alexey valerievich, what are we closer to, to which of these two options, will we achieve or go further, well, i think there will be some kind of

middle, that is, a period of such turbulence, geopolitical, economic, and a period, when it will be a new world order will crystallize, its contours will appear, but this period will of course bring many problems, that’s when everyone will understand that these problems are already excessive and affect everyone, including the outgoing hegemon, someone who may come to his place, then there will be a need to somehow agree on rules so that conflicts are within some limits and no longer spread uncontrollably, and it will be clear that we will have to somehow live together on the planet, that there is no need to destroy it and new rules are needed for the new time, many had hopes for san francisco, which is there, and some have fears, but like, for example, our bloc, i’ll call it that, but we’ll see that the countries haven’t become closer, no, they haven’t, well because that

the time has not really come yet. no one is ripe for this, in america they are convinced that they will survive this period and maintain their dominance. yes, china , of course, has a reluctance to get involved in confrontation, it is obvious, they have a different philosophy of development and gaining influence there, but as for the west and specifically the core of the west represented by the united states, then they are very aggressively fighting for their place in the sun, it is obvious that they are losing their position, they are losing their authority, and the ability to influence different regions of the world at the same time to play this game is also weakening for them, so they are becoming more aggressive, they are using this strategy of chaos, so we will create problems for our potential or obvious competitors, we will solve our internal problems , and then we will enter the new world again in a high position, this is their strategy at the moment, what do you think, well, here are these shots

from san francisco said a lot for me and who said the two main powers today in the world economy, we once went through this stage in our soviet history, remember the famous phrase of boris nikolayevich yeltsin, take as much sovereignty as you want, that is when the union center weakened, conflicts got out of control, and each of the modern constituent entities of the russian federation, post-soviet republics, began. under the sun for their piece of land, economy, power and sovereignty, so now there are, as it were, two, two main powers, china and the united states of america, they took half a step back , and, as it were, told the whole world that we now have our own internal problems that we want to solve, for the united states, this is understandable, a very painful transition of power, they are dealing with

their elections, these are problems this is not an uncontrolled wave of these terrible crimes with weapons, that is , the proliferation of weapons in american society, problems of racism, and so on and so forth, a new attempt to get into a new technological, economic stage of development, for china this is development domestic market, this is the creation of new production facilities, the same chips, these are problems in the real estate market, these are global projects in eurasia in general... two hegemons, as it were, or two leading economies of the world, stepped aside a little, and here they really appeared such a lapse of time when countries that want to strengthen their sovereignty , that want to solve, like azerbaijan or turkey, their long-standing geopolitical ambitions, problems, restore sovereignty, they

take advantage of this step back of the main ones in the world. and yes, we talked a lot about multipolarity, but little was said about the fact that the transition to multipolarity, unfortunately, most often occurs through military conflicts, through blood. alas, this is what happens. and the fact that in san francisco , on the key problems of the world, the leaders of the united states and china did not agree, and the agenda there went to chemical production, to the bow, to who has what system of power, dictatorship, not dictatorship, who what kind of cars are being produced, it just gave the world a signal that the next year or probably a year and a half after it settles down after elections in the united states, after the taiwan problem is resolved through diplomatic peaceful means, these also internal

elections, local ones, then only after that, it means that the main economies of the world will look, look back at the world and say, well, yes, let’s do it now come to an agreement, and now let’s see who can hold on to what, yes, well, now let’s have ukraine, which also touched on in san francisco, and the date is special. it has been exactly 10 years since a tent city appeared in the center of kiev, giving rise to the second maidan. then no one could yet foresee that what lay ahead was not just anti-government demonstrations, but shooting, snipers on rooftops, mass casualties, and the establishment of a fundamentally new political regime in the country. according to official data alone, 121 were killed and more than 2,000 wounded. these are the virtues, as they call it in ukraine, by the way, the first maidan of 2004, the so-called orange revolution , began on november 22, that is, the tragic month of modern ukrainian history, so they started talking about the maidan again, this time zelsky,

the president of ukraine is afraid of a new maidan, in attempts to create chaos, in his opinion , russia is to blame, it will come to a new maidan, alexey valerievich, ukraine, well, i doubt that. this is what we traditionally understand by maidans, that is, the appearance of a mass of people in the square, the development of the situation there, the political situation, because firstly, such a military-terrorist dictatorship has been established in ukraine, and i doubt that anyone will even be given get together, another thing is that there is an internal image in the power structures, there is obvious dissatisfaction of some of the military with zelsky, part of society is growing skeptical about the military victory there , despite the fact that... yes, it has stupefied the majority of ukrainians, plus there is obviously already pressure from the western side, the americans and some of the europeans are trying to push zelsky to the elections so that he went and lost, because

his ratings are not so hot, that is, against this background , you need to again get a trump card in the form of an enemy, the image of an enemy and, accordingly, avoid changes in power, so zelsky is trying to do this to do, trying to maintain... his position, but it is becoming more and more difficult for him to do this, because he is afraid, of course, not of ordinary citizens who will go to maidan nezalezhnosti, but of unrest among the military, in some kind of power structures, and the cessation of political, financial, military support from key western countries , this is like death for him, most of all he is afraid of this , well, look , western pilgrims have flocked to kiev, i almost said, well, really to the holy places, until they didn't destroy finally the kiev regime, so last week, big shots, big western politicians, it was cameron, who , let me remind our viewers, is now the head of the british

foreign ministry, on monday the head of the pentagon, the american austin, arrived, then the german minister of defense pestorius, the head of the european council charles michel , some others, what kind of support group is this, for what purpose did they come, well, on the one hand , it really is... first of all, moral and informational support, to show that he is not alone, that they are still with him, but on the other hand, obviously, in my opinion, help will be reduced, and we need to explain, convince zelsky that this is good, that it is in his interests, perhaps someone is coming with messages, well, if we we’re not talking about the military, after all, there are certain political changes, someone is probably talking about elections, someone... to find out what ’s going on inside the ukrainian government, a reizor has arrived there, one of the main motives is there, yes, they are scanning the situation , trying to convince of some

decisions that are beneficial for themselves, trying to convince is that a reduction in support is normal, and that guys, well, you had your homework for a counter-offensive, you kind of failed it, so let’s think about other options that are not so expensive for these auditors, that is, it goes to. .. in a beneficial way for western states, there is still one motive in these visits, because what was it. hope, hope was that rebuilt according to the nato model, equipped with nato equipment, albeit old from the last generation, it would solve everything, all the issues at the front, that is, they would raise these abrams, they will put leopards, and they will put missiles, and they say the russians should have seen this and run, that is, the front should have collapsed, they should have reached the crimea, they should have cut the land channel - this is this

channel to the crimea, but nothing happened, that’s one thing one of the motives, probably, as i imagine it, is also why it didn’t get it, why weren’t you scared and ran, and why didn’t it work, it’s huge, they say the amount is already 230 billion dollars, this is military aid , why didn’t it work, and if it didn’t work in ukraine, but where is the guarantee that it will work in others? conflict points in the world, but here we need to understand, another fact, i still wanted to roll back - we have seen more than one thing about this notorious maidan, a coup d'etat, here we must not forget, by the way, the revolution on granite, which is remembered in kiev, when the students went out in 1989 , slept on the same independence square, froze everything they could, but after each coup d'etat, those coming to the government offices

became... more and more irresponsible, increasingly less manageable, increasingly corrupt, increasingly less effective, this is some kind of curse of the great ukrainian people, when this maidan foam raises, throws up, it would seem, people from the people, it would seem, people who know how to clearly formulate thoughts, are able to stand up for everything good, but in reality it turned out that they were just talkers, they were charlatans in power. i really hope that there won’t be another maidan, i’m sure, i agree with alexey here that there won’t be any classic maidan, most likely it really is a military junta, well, look what a phobia kiev has now, secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine alexey danilov, kiev is concerned that western countries are calling on it to enter into dialogue with moscow, they have forbidden themselves, zelsky has forbidden himself to negotiate, the president . belarus commented on this

step several times, saying, well, this is just stupidity, no, that zelsky is surrounding himself with arguments so that he can be removed as quickly as possible, this is this memorandum signed for himself, which prohibits it, now the publication desan gave an interview, where he freely said how they are endlessly hunting him, there are five or six attempts on his life, he said, in fact, an attempt on me is the norm, many people began to talk about that that, in general, he himself gave an argument for western friends so that at any moment they would eliminate him, everyone would understand, but russia did it, yet i think that, rather , on the contrary, he wants to remain the only counterparty of all these western auditors in ukraine, even then there was one, one version, here this arrival of the current attention from western politicians, this time in the version of the russian foreign intelligence service, i will quote,

the west demands from the zelsky regime. to the world community, it is impossible for russia to win in the ukrainian conflict, and for this, washington and london recommend that kiev lower the draft age to 17 years , raise the conscription age to 70 years, carry out additional mobilization of women, there is logic in this, yes, because well, if someone monitors the information space ukraine, there for about 2.5 a large-scale information campaign has been going on for months, which talks about the fact that women are at the front in the army on the battlefield, it’s good that tens of thousands of ukrainian women are literally rushing to the front, and they say, look men, if women are rushing, then how are you shamefully making your way through these christmas trees on moldovan territory, like there was a video there , or you are running away from mobilization, but how can you afford it, ladies, will people fight for you, no, come on, yes, the headquarters. company, when especially these

thugs from azov, from neo-nazi battle, they go out into space mixed with obscenities and talk about how, no, the students won’t sit out, and why can’t an eighteen- or seventeen-year-old be given a weapon in their hands, he is capable of fighting, he is capable of being the very meat at the front, this is what koshli solves the issue of the maidan , however, there will be no one to gather, well, i think you should trust the information that the russian foreign intelligence service receives and here, well, it’s like a double bottom, yes, on the one hand. western politicians can thus advise zelsky to stay in power longer and longer, on the other hand, they understand that the longer this so-called resistance on the part of ukraine lasts, and russia

, for example, slows down its advance for some reason, the more profitable the subsequent negotiating positions will be for them, i think it is calculated there that well ... this is a mobilization where from 17 to 70 years, well, let’s say, either the negotiation process will be delayed for another six months, or let’s say active actions on the part of russia at the front, which means that they will solve some of their problems there, perhaps in power in the usa, elections are possible they will be admitted to the european parliament, they need this pause, and how to fill this pause, really, with ukrainian cannon fodder, so that then , anyway, in a year and a half, they will eventually come to elections. will say, well, listen, this is the last chance we gave you, the ukrainian authorities, we have already mobilized whoever is possible, again nothing worked out, well, that’s it, just let’s negotiate, well, there’s another nuance, because it’s not by holding elections that zelsky is being hanged hooked, he is no longer a legitimate president, his term of office

has ended, there are no elections, emergency the position remains, and, as it were, keeps him in this leadership chair, that is, he becomes doubly controlled. figure, this little figure on the cover of time magazine, going into the floor of the spread , which can be manipulated in any way, that is, you can nullify any guarantees that were given to him before to say, listen, well, we ’re holding you, so closing the topic of the maidans, ukrainians, all those years inspired confidence in such a quick, bright future in a friendly european family, but the reality turned out to be completely different, this is how it is expressed in the most european union, hungarian prime minister viktor orban our task will be to correct the erroneous promise to start negotiations, since ukraine is now many light years away from the eu, orban said and added that preventing ukraine from joining the eu will be one of the main priorities of his government in the coming months, well, viktor orban is fighting for

the national interests of hungary, he understands that, relatively speaking, such a neighbor, but already a full member of the eu, for hungary this is a huge problem, well, firstly, these masses ukrainians, poor people from a destroyed country, they will naturally go through hungary, some will settle in hungary, bringing problems with them, that is, orban understands that there is no time for slogans and no time for pictures when there are beautiful ones on the maps, yes, when borel declares, here we will accept 10 more balkan countries, or , that is, he is clearly in his head... these maps, how the european union is expanding and approaching russia, and here a person understands that this will bring a huge number of problems, and none of the criteria, none of the criteria ukraine for joining the eu does not correspond, neither in terms of development, nor in terms of respect for human rights, the rights of minorities, including

the hungarian minority, yes, that is, ukraine , its admission to the eu is huge. a phantom, both on the part of the europeans and on the part of the ukrainian authorities , but it is necessary to maintain faith in this phantom so that there is any point in them fighting for something, this is the only reason this rhetoric is used, although now is not the time at all striving to join the european union is a bad omen, even dogs began to rush at european presidents, this is a curious moment, it is full of special symbolism, so we will touch on it now, although the actors there are not laughing now. then the injured hand of president vanderbelin was caught on camera lenses, he reports that he feels well, and of course we will take his word, so sandu explained that the dog rushed at the guests out of fear, there were too many people around, and if we get serious to this topic, to what orban said, and we we also keep in mind what is happening now on

the polish border, the polish-ukrainian border, it also doesn’t look like they are expecting ukraine to join the european union with flowers, is that what ’s happening? now in ukraine with ukraine, this is not a lesson that should be learned in moldova and in the baltic countries and in poland. the lesson is simple: for the west, the countries that surround russia are never partners. is this taran against the russians? is not it so? we warned, and russian experts, leading economists warned the ukrainian authorities, also viktor fedorovich yanukovych and at the time of signing the association with the european union, that it will work against ukrainian interests, it will make ukraine just a raw materials appendage, and no markets will fully open for ukraine, especially agricultural automobile... transportation, high-tech, that’s exploitation ukraine will, in fact, begin at the same time, after

the sudden epiphany of viktor fodorovich, yanukovych, the maidan happened, and now there is a coalition of countries that oppose the real integration of the ukrainian economy into the economy european union, it is only expanding, i would pay attention to the elections in the netherlands , where for the first time the party of geert wilders came out on top... , so yes, ukraine, on the one hand, is not needed by the european union as a full -fledged sovereign developed state, a full member of the european union, on the other hand, here... you are absolutely right, this is certainly a lesson to all those who have lifted their pants and lowered their pants,

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has actually withdrawn from events taking place in the post-soviet space. at the same time, armenia is actively developing military cooperation with representatives nato, in particular france. in october, yerevan and paris signed an arms supply agreement, and although we are talking about very small volumes, it is not the details that are important here. the very fact that the csto country has begun to establish cooperation with a state that is actually part of a hostile alliance is alarming. how should we approach this? on the one hand, you need to understand the reasons why the armenian leadership is doing this, they accuse russia of the dkb that we did not provide assistance at a difficult, difficult moment, although from a legal point of view, we should not have to fight for karabakh, especially when armenia itself did not recognize it, was very strange; the armenian elite behaved in relation to this unrecognized territory, so

on the one hand it looks like an attempt to shift political responsibility to themselves. on the allies, they say they are far away, here the armenian society is here, and it is necessary to show who is to blame, secondly, this is already the sphere of hypotheses, the question is that the genealogy of the origin of the current armenian leadership, it is, well, this is not a secret, is connected with non-governmental organizations that are , who were on the support of western countries, soros and others, so maybe this is the deep-seated conviction of these people, they understand that it is very difficult to break away from russia in this region, but some steps need to be taken in this direction, even if they are ritualistic somewhere, insignificant, but from such steps a certain path then develops, a path of reversal, say, from natural allies , from iran, russia, to the western side, but

again, in my opinion, this is an illusion, in a more... hard form, we we see how impossible this is, even in moldova, despite the fact that there is a student of soros, well, it’s so obvious that there’s nowhere to put a label, she still can’t turn around, because the situation in moldova is difficult, in armenia it’s no less complicated, and if you do this, well, relatively speaking, consistently and god forbid suddenly the country can simply be torn apart, so this is a question of understanding and responsibility, first of all to your people. our president recently met with the secretary general of the cst, i suggest listening to the fragment, especially since it was also about ukraine. concerning execution of the action plan for implementation, the decision of the collective security council of the november session of last year and the priority areas of the republic of

belarus, the period of chairmanship. of the 34 activities, 32 were completed, two activities, unfortunately, could not be completed, these are, first of all, our international contacts with european international organizations such as the osce, well, due to their position, and the second question is the order of the collective security council on finalization, decisions on assistance to armenia, last year did not accepted, well, all the other participants, allies supported this decision, but the armenians did not express any interest in this document, and moreover, in the final part of our work, they asked to remove it from the agenda altogether.

armenia, in the person of its political leadership, in my opinion, has started a very dangerous game, betting on france, france, which recently began, well, received a serious blow in africa and which is now trying to enter such a southern, southern flank of both russia and turkey and gain a foothold there, let me remind you, through georgia and armenia , that is, these two countries chosen by france, i don’t know whether they will be able to seriously realize their ambitions there, seriously harm russia and turkey, but they are trying. to undertake such, let me remind you, just in georgia, the president of georgia in the recent past, a french citizen, the french ambassador to georgia and , in my opinion, one of the leaders of the french committee for strategic security, something like that was called, that is, strategic intelligence, then there is just a direct agent of influence in every sense of this

words in georgia and it was through georgia that it went. logic, other than the one voiced by alexey, means blaming russia and the treaty on treaty, our own losses on the battlefield, in modernizing the army and in building a political system, i can’t find any other logic, i can’t imagine how france can, or even the united states can. for armenia, apart from such ritual political statements, declarations, symbolic supplies of weapons, this is impossible. moreover, if you read their telegram channels, you can see that some politicians, here it is always necessary to say that very different forces are represented in armenia, individual armenian politicians, in addition to trying to throw their political problems onto the udkb, we are discussing this now, but at the same time it’s still a hassle

to lay down the presidency of belarus for this year, what... look what you have led to, at least it’s ugly, well, this is only an information campaign, as i understand it, in order to discredit the uec, our counterparts in nato and other structures need to somehow... uh, smooth it out - that’s it a good splash of information, which caused the participation of the csto in resolving the january events in kazakhstan, that is , then we showed ourselves to be great, and now we kind of need to be dunked on, saying that you don’t have agreement among your friends? absolutely true, well, plus you need to understand, there really are signs of a split in armenian society, yes , prime minister pashinyan has serious support , demonstrated it in the elections, but nevertheless, he does not have an absolute majority, which is why this situation is dangerous when, on the one hand, he makes curtsies towards

the west, and sometimes on the verge of fouling him meetings with famous women, and with ukrainian and ours, these are, in my opinion, more than political gestures , this is a demonstration of a certain position, this in itself... poses a threat in itself, when two vectors diverge within society, what can happen is an explosion and a split, the stretching of the state into these opposing camps, and i see a danger in this, because if this happens, naturally the neighbors will think, yeah, the armenians have no agreement, no unity, which means we can think about further military-political actions, here this is another attempt, probably, from the outside... nato, the united states and france , the same as the one who is looking, chose france to look after the region, an attempt to really drive a wedge into this triple alliance of three

powerful powers, russia, iran and turkey, which, well, apparently they have already agreed on how it will be, how all conflicts will be resolved in their border areas, i remind you that turkey, the ottoman empire, iran, and russia were empires and decided by fate. these regions and now they are trying to come to an agreement and reconcile the entire space around their borders. obviously nato doesn't need this. moreover, we must understand that we are talking from minsk about what is happening in armenia, yerevan, and this is not just hypothetical, what is happening there in a sovereign country. no, we are very closely interconnected, especially since they are members of our military alliance bloc, this also affects our security. and lately, we have realized that it is safe. it is not limited to any territorial boundaries, we are watching what is happening in the middle east, our people are there, we are with bated breath

watched the return of this special flight from cairo, there were belarusian citizens on board, members of their families, 41 people were taken from the gas sector, 22, a child, but you know, you can of course talk a lot about high ideas, there are principles of geopolitics, who has what interests, but when in your hands there are so many such destroyed worlds over the last year, and at the same time we are seeing that the switching of these regimes, peace and war is happening at incredible speed, i would like to ask you to summarize our conversation today thinking on the topic, it is clear that there are no universal recipes, but this is our fuse to get through all these points of instability... this period when the world is trying to determine how we will continue to live, well, in my opinion in my opinion, there are several recipes, firstly, if we are still talking about a certain highest level of decision-making, goal-setting, there must be a clear

picture of the world so that no illusions, promises, messages of very cunning politicians, figures, especially western ones, can cloud here is the reality, we have, we have these guidelines, a clear understanding, positions, who is our ally, who is our partner, neighbor, but we have this, and we see with whom we really build positive creative relationships, this is the first thing, that is, we need to have this picture of the world in our heads, and without illusions, second, this of course, well, it seems banal, we constantly repeat this, but this is internal unity, but if it doesn’t exist, if the interests of different parts of society diverge in different directions, i already said this today, well, it will happen. .. there will be a split and we have seen it 100 times on examples from different countries, including those close to us, ukraine, moldova, georgia, armenia, russia, it used to be in the nineties, this is

still to preserve, cherish, protect this unity, strengthen it, explain somewhere there, maybe , to our lost citizens who believe in some illusions that there is reality, our policy is based on reality, that is , lead to that picture of the world so that there is no... ideological split, then we maintain inner peace, strengthen our own safety and we can to keep the outer perimeter of the border from sliding into conflicts and war, that’s... these are the basic elements of this recipe, i’ll add briefly, humanity, justice, this is what distinguishes our internal foreign policy, these are situations with the rescue of people, our people, their members families, children from the gas sector , the humanity, justice, and injustice of all those forces that are attacking the belarusian statehood have just manifested themselves, our people are trying to drive a wedge into our unity,

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just one presentation, however, for the tv viewer and the huge internet audience, he i know you very well, so i’m glad to welcome you to alexander artomov, alexander germanovich, hello, good afternoon, greetings to everyone, hello, well, we ’ve been waiting for this meeting for a long time, i admit right away, because a lot of questions have accumulated, the answers to which are far from everyone, i’m sure you have them, i suggest we start with a loud voice, and then we’ll try to get deeper into the essence of world processes, here... the meeting between joe biden and xiding ping returned to the agenda conversations about a possible confrontation around taiwan, and very soon there will be elections there, which risk influencing the fate of the entire region, possibly the world, so in these negotiations with the united states and china, did you see a rapprochement or even greater rejection of each other? well, you know, i would say that, of course, no rapprochement could happen, even on those premises

that actually pit one power against the old lion, in this case i’m talking about the usa, or, to use american terminology, the good duck, as they call it, the outgoing president, whose term is ending, regarding such a challenger, china, again the term is not random, due to the fact that indeed in the 19th century, let us recall, the committee of 300, this is a very important term, 300 ruling families of mi, rum, that is , these families, according to british american intelligence, people who served there, like john coleman, like some others have ruled the world, since the 19th century. they tried to poison the opiate wars with drugs and minimize its influence even in asia by any means, but china survived, rose, and we see the result. based on the dynamics of the event, along two multidirectional vectors, it is clear that the processes, according to the general

political science logic, laid down by machiavli and even before him, if we take the art of war, such processes will continue, but if we pay attention to some specifics consisting of... negotiations, what kind of friendship can we talk about if china immediately made a declaration in response on countries, i would say, well, quite in the spirit of the us president, biden’s statement immediately after the end that xizan ping is a dictator, at least he has respect for the head of state, absolutely regardless of the size and international weight of this state, it was by chance that this phrase did not escape biden, given that he was an elderly man. suffers, as some say, from dementia, but i would not say that this could have happened just like that, but for the reason that let’s look a little at the position that biden takes regarding inwen, this is the current president, a woman

from taiwan, who recently traveled to the usa, already in the current year 2023 and how she was received there, let’s remember nansa pilosi, her scandalous visit, former... speaker a accordingly, the american legislative body, so to speak, her sensational trip to taiwan, contrary to the so-called policy of duality, again a completely official terminity policy, if we take the english term, which assumes that the united states recognizes only one state, the people's republic of china, but has some your relations with taiwan, some of your relations that are being built, agree on the visit... of the top officials of the state to the territory declaring their dissidence, then there is about a dissident course, but at least the country for the united states, by the way, the logic is absolutely international, because since 2018, several countries have severed relations with

taiwan, after taiwan took a course towards intransigence, it was not for nothing that i said that the central asian empire is taking such a course occupy and travel to the usa, albeit on a private visit, but still a person representing his democratic progressive party, and so she and her democratic progressive party want confrontation with mainland china, these are the countries of the international community absolutely they don’t seem to want this, because somewhere around 78 countries have severed relations, leaving only 13 countries that recognize thawania as some kind of independent entity. look, please excuse me for interrupting, but we are really seeing now that old conflicts have been smoldering for a very long time, there is the middle east, ukraine, nagorno-karabakh, for some reason they are starting in our time, this is not untangling knots, this is cutting the knots, and we see that taiwan is a long-standing issue and after this meeting, as you say, everyone stuck to his guns, should we wait for it to come, or could it come to a war for taiwan, how

far can this situation go? dmitry, in my opinion, again we need to look at accurate data, because there are different, my colleagues, who make forecasts with all the fury of the red guard attacks on capital, but the forecast is always made, in my opinion, on the principle that war is a continuation solving economic issues in other ways, an extreme expression of relations between states, when we cannot agree, whereas, as they say, we fight if only we are not talking about some kind of messianic projects, well, maybe we’ll talk about this below, so let’s look at the possible... links to such a conflict, as we were taught in the soviet, let’s say, constructive school, that is, we need to analyze everything in its entirety, in total, if we take the debt the united states owes to china, the debt is insane, it is second in a row after japan, the most us money

is in foreign markets, i emphasize foreign markets have trembled, japan has become expensive, there are 10 trillion trillion dollars, let me remind you, trillions come after billions, right? and they owe china about 860 billion dollars, the second largest debt, but if you remember exactly 859.4, but japan naturally cannot repay, it is occupied, japan has no right to say anything to the usa at all, because according to the territory of japan, by the way, as on the territory of georgia, the united states has the right to move without even reporting anything, without notifying, or rather in a notification manner, so to speak, reporting about it... and the authorities of the country, that is , the state, so to speak, there to the president, parliament, japan is occupied, and china is naturally sovereign, so consider that the first foreign sovereign debt is the us debt to china, why should china kill its own duzhnik, well, of course, china is unlikely to cope with the united states, it is unlikely that

its tasks, so to speak, but nevertheless, why would he even enter into a hostile relationship with him? this is entirely based on the principle of form majeure, circumstances force will cancel debt obligations, at least freeze them for decades, china does not need this. closer to us, ukraine, here is bloomberg, writes zelsky is afraid of a new maidan being prepared in ukraine, well, everything is predictable here, as always, he is guilty of everything. in what is wreaking havoc, i take quotes in this case , i quote, in ukrainian society, russia, although we see that lately there has been continuous criticism around zelsky, and it is heard everywhere, in kiev they are urgently looking for a successor, they call it ermak, then zaluzhny, everything looks as if they are quickly merging zelsky, in your opinion, they are merging him, in my opinion, they are merging him, for the reason that

zelsky, first of all, is so disgusting... i’m a poster stamp, for the reason that he, come on, i’m trying, as always, to speak with facts, this is given out, and his convoy, which is called security, consists of officers’ special forces, well, for some explanation, there ’s actually a set of normal ones, believe me, i still go in. federation of law enforcement agencies of russia kremlin 9, i myself am a veteran of the special forces gray beret of the third degree, and so the usual kit of such a security guard also includes wiring, and for a second everything is possible, you know, in this regard, to what extent it is security, to what extent it is a convoy, this is a very big question, the westerners include it, not ours, well, well, we, i won’t say what it includes us, because this is a military ata.

now, based on less colorful, but no less important details, i note that when zelinsky was flying, i continue to give facts, at a meeting, in the american parliament, when the parliament was still accepting him, this is the previous visit, not the last, but the penultimate visit , he flew on an american plane, i know what it was like the fuss around the sofa, remembering the classic ostrugatskys, or the behind-the-scenes fuss so that he flies on an american plane, as a rule, fits on british planes, according to some of our operational information, he has a british passport, he is a british subject, and so, again, i remember the unforgettable authors and writers, so to speak, a turkish subject, and so this same british subject, exactly in this regard, zelsky does not suit the usa, in no way, moreover, he went to another fact, that is, things are independent of my consciousness, year ago, and just a year ago in december last year, the head of the cro burns flew to kiev in order to convince zelensky

to negotiate with the russians, due to the fact that zelensky did not want to follow the instructions given to him in abstract form from salyuvan, an adviser on us national security, at baali in september last year he made ardent russophobic statements; the americans were not happy with this, not because they are such doves of peace. because the americans currently control 80% of the territory of ukraine, even more than 80, to be honest, and that’s for them they like it, that is, they don’t need to do anything else, just the arrival, the arrival of david cameron in kiev is enough for them, immediately after the appointment of the head of the british meath, this is just an indicator once again who is the main curator for ukraine, so this needs to be understood, exactly, i literally took these words out of my mouth, this is exactly what i wanted to say, i completely agree with you, but because the noble... family of anglo-saussians is now going on with a kind of quiet fuss or fight for money, this is

quite understandable, for opportunities, i will remind you , that i mentioned the committee of 300, that the british royal family, together with the dutch, and both families are part of the total 300 ruling families of the world, but today they bought the rights to mineral deposits located on the territory of the lugansk people's republic, which is part of the russian federation and adjacent territories , with any path you need to achieve the goal, it’s for money , it’s a monetary issue, money, this is sacred to them, god forgive me, and in parallel how much has already been invested, about 20 billion have been invested dollars, let’s say, even the unfortunate netherlands invested about 2 billion euros, that is, somewhere around 3 billion dollars, this is a small country, although one of the most militant, considering what is happening in ukraine, and now we need results, and zelsky does not provide any effectiveness. why doesn't it? he continues the conflict and

wants to continue it. is it clear why? as soon as the conflict is over, i won’t give half a dime, excuse me, not even a penny for zelsky’s life. he, if he is the president, then the president of the junta, so here he is the president of the junta of one war, that is, as soon as hostilities end, he becomes a very inconvenient figure for everyone , he is not capable of agreement, moreover, it is clear that the kremlin will not talk to him in any way, after what happened, with whom it will be, i don’t know how interesting it is that the kremlin spoke to someone, most likely the westerners are not striving for this, they are interested in rebuilding a strong army, because the previous army was almost all spent, in the middle east, then to we are discussing now events, this is israel, of course, the palestinian question, and the hell that, well, there’s no other way to call it, the hell that was created in the gas sector, we, of course, understood that it had been smoldering for decades, but why did it flare up now with such force, and you know, here, i would say, i will probably give a nuanced answer, it will concern the civilizational

factors of concepts that are important, in my opinion, firstly, the basis for the conflict was laid at the balfour conference. named after lord balfour, because then at the same time they made a promise to two different peoples to form two states on the same territory, we know about this, this is the so-called legal or diplomatic-legal absurdity, i speak as a freelance representative of the diplomatic academy of the russian ministry of foreign affairs, which is why, of course, this is a deliberately planted mine placed under the entire structure of the middle east, again - the british, because they became the guarantors of the implementation of this decision, and then they just took and left, from the point of view of palestine, now we’ll talk about cruelty separately, i should just say some things, probably to tell, both the palestinian and jewish peoples, at the time of the formation of their state, used, i would say , informal logic, the informal logic was in the hijacking of planes, yesir arafat,

this personally, or yasir arafat himself personally did this, in the taking of hostages, including soviet diplomats in 1900... eighty-two, then , by the way, a soviet diplomat was killed, his head was sawed off, after which our group vimpil carried out a force action, destroying palestinian terrorists, we rarely remember this, i i always remember about this, as a member of the k-9 council, that people died there, and vimpil was able , in principle, to save soviet diplomats from continuing this kind of unfriendly actions. and the jews also carried out operations, force operations of the terrorist class, as well. associated with various, i would say bearish actions were before the formation of the state or the moment of formation, so there is no need to be surprised here, both nations or peoples, by the way, are similar in nature, and that other people is a group and in fact are relatives, they

have a general logic of thinking and conducting military operations, in my opinion, this explains a lot, based on military logic, moving on to military actions, i believe that... the one who pushed israel into a conflict 100% did not profess at all interests of the state of israel, note that i divided three concepts: jews, jews as believers, people professing judaism, and israel as a state, these are all completely different concepts, the third party you are talking about, which pushed israel, so that ’s exactly what we’re talking about now i’m not losing my speech, as they say, the threads of my presentation, the fact is that in order for me to be on the line , so to speak, of dividing the parties, i visited israel, and i understand that in order for what became possible to be possible, it was necessary, so that someone, someone prepared the mess for these actions, this is someone, in my opinion, this is the usa , which in this case is playing a combination, i’ll end with this, called a win-win situation, a win-win situation, the israelis

will play in poker if hezbollah enters the war, followed by iran, which by the way there is a hyperbook. real hypersonic weapons and there are nuclear warheads of 10-15 kilotons according to proven things, then for this it will mean death, the end. we see that this global transformation, to which we are accustomed , we journalists have been talking a lot lately, it concerns, perhaps even to a lesser extent, the economy and some geopolitical issues, and that is, it runs along a much deeper line, that is, this is an entry into some completely different world, for which we all need to be prepared by those who... are the initiators of these processes, in this sense, what is the mission in this global transformation of russia, mind you, i say, not a goal, not a task, but the mission of russia, because the conversation came to exactly this formulation, given how close minsk and moscow are today, what the role of belarus, how do you see it? so i’ll say something, maybe something non-trivial, not

crazy, but i think that belarus today, belarus, there are two reading standards for a russian person, gives russia a very good reference point, belarus is a beacon in many ways, why it was mind you, states, by the way, two of them, i think , are ancient, one is less, it is quite recent, this is ukraine, simply because ukraine, excuse me, civilizationally did not exist independently, not because i have a bad attitude towards them , not at all, i don’t separate them from russians at all, be ukrainian, please, with your language, but for me it’s just as worthy as russian, well, belor simply due to the fact that she was somewhat geographically closer to centers where they took decisions in the middle ages. tradition, and what’s more, it certainly suffered terribly during the second world war, we know how minsk was

completely, although the ancient city was reconstructed, restored, so historically, of course, it has a large kind of civilizational reserve of wisdom, for me personally , three states, three as laboratories of different paths of development, which in the nineties followed the path of then wild capitalism, now this path, thank god, has been completed in many respects, i believe that there are still some birthmarks with them fight and fight, but russia is moving to the realities of a military empire, an empire is not always a bad concept, i mean a very strong state with a large sphere of influence, and with a military aristocracy, aristocracy, that is , the rule of the best, is naturally not a hereditary aristocracy, it’s just people who, with weapons in battle, proved not about ukraine, we talked for a long time persistently, everything is clear with her, i will not offend anyone, i now have a military junta there, and

belarus, belarus, in my opinion, has chosen much more from the soviet past, and really often attractive for russian people, for russians, for russians, because there is a concept of russian foreign policy, in which a sign of identity is actually put between the concepts russians and russians. this is the beginning of the current, now ending year, at the beginning of the year in the spring the concept of russian foreign policy was published, there is the concept of the russian home, russian civilization, as i understand it, is broader than the concept of russia, and based on this, in my opinion, belarus is much reflects the ideas of the russian home and russian civilization more than in in many ways russia itself, at the moment. in my opinion, belarus and its existence proves, firstly, that russia will not

absorb anyone. conversation, thank you very much, goodbye, have a good one, alexander artamonov was on the website with the studio, well, that’s all for today, see you in a week, happily, how long has it been since you held a book in your hands, flipped through page after page, greedily tasting every word of all manifestations