rather, on the contrary, he wants to remain the only counterparty of all these western auditors in ukraine. even then, there was one, one version of this arrival of the current attention from western politicians, this time the version of the russian foreign intelligence service. i will quote: the west demands that the zelsky regime demonstrate to the world community the impossibility of russia’s victory in the ukrainian conflict. and for this, washington and london recommend that kiev reduce their prices. up to 17 years of age , up to 70 years of age for conscription, carry out additional mobilization of women, in this yes, because if someone monitors the information space of ukraine, there has been a large-scale information campaign going on there for about 2 and a half months now , which talks about the fact that women are at the front in the army on the battlefield, it’s good that tens of thousands ukrainian women are literally eager to go to the front and they say, look, men, if

women are eager, then how can you disgrace yourself, make your way through these trees onto moldovan territory, like there was a video there, or run away from mobilization, yes, that’s how you can allow, zhinki, or something for you, people will fight, no, come on, and yes , a large-scale company, when especially these thugs from azov, and from neo-nazi battles, go out into space mixed with obscenities and talk about what no, students won’t sit out, why can’t an 18-year-old be given a weapon in his hands, he is capable of fighting, he is capable of being that very meat at the front , he also solves the issue of the maidan, however, no one will gather, uh, well, i think you should trust the information that the service receives external

russian intelligence and, here... well, it’s like a double bottom, yes, on the one hand, western politicians , yes, can therefore advise zelsky to stay in power longer and longer, on the other hand, they understand that the more this so-called resistance on the part of ukraine lasts, and russia, let’s say, slows down its advance for some reason, the more profitable for them will be the subsequent... negotiating positions, i think it was calculated there that well, this mobilization, where from 17 to 70 years, let’s say, will delay the negotiation process for another six months, or let’s say, active actions on the part of russia at the front, which means that they will solve some of their problems there, perhaps in power in the united states, perhaps they will hold elections to the european parliament, they need this pause, and how to fill this pause with truly ukrainian cannon fodder

, so that... then, in a year and a half and a half, they will eventually come to the elections, they will say, well, listen, this is the last chance we gave you, the ukrainian authorities have already mobilized, which means whoever they can, again nothing happened, well, that’s it, only then let's negotiations, well, there is another nuance, because it is not by holding elections that zelsky is hung on a hook, he is no longer a legitimate president , his term of office has ended, there are no elections, the state of emergency remains and, as it were, keeps him in this... leadership chair, that is he becomes a doubly controllable figure, this little figure on the covers of time magazine, going into the floor of the spread, which can be manipulated in any way, that is, you can nullify any guarantees that were emulated before and say, listen, well, we’re keeping you, well here closing the topic of the maidans, all these years ukrainians were inspired with confidence in such a bright future in a friendly european family, but the reality turned out to be completely different. this is

how it is expressed in the european union itself, by hungarian prime minister viktor orban. our task will be to correct the erroneous promise to start negotiations, since ukraine is now many light years away from the eu. - orban said and added that preventing ukraine from joining the eu will be one of the main priorities of his government in the coming months. viktor orban is fighting for the national interests of hungary, he understands that it is conditional. they say that such a neighbor, but already a full member of the eu, is a huge problem for hungary, well, firstly, these masses of ukrainians, poor from a destroyed country, they will naturally go through hungary, some will settle in hungary, bringing problems with himself, that is, orban understands that there is no time for slogans and no time for pictures, when there are beautiful ones on the maps, yes, when borel declares, here we are

, 10 more balkan countries, or, that is, he, clearly he has these maps in his head about how the european union is expanding and approaching russia, but here the person understands that this will bring a huge number of problems. and ukraine does not meet any of the criteria for joining the eu, neither in terms of development, nor in terms of respect for human rights, the rights of minorities, including the hungarian minority, yes, that is, ukraine, this is its admission to the eu , this is a huge mirage and phantom, both on the part of the europeans and on the part of the ukrainian authorities, but it is necessary to maintain faith in this phantom, so that there would be any point in them fighting for something, this is the only reason why this rhetoric is used, although now is not the time to strive to join the european union, this is a bad omen, even dogs have begun to rush at european presidents, this is a funny moment, it is full

special symbolism, so we will touch on it now, although the characters there are not laughing now, the injured hand of president vanderbelin was then caught in the camera lens, he reports that he is feeling well, and we will take his word for it, so sandu explained that the dog rushed at the guests out of fear, there were too many people around, and if we seriously move on to this topic, to what orban said, but we also keep in mind what is happening now on the polish border, the polish-ukrainian one, it also doesn’t seem like they were expecting ukraine to join the european union, unless what is happening now in ukraine with ukraine is not a lesson that should be learned in moldova and the baltic countries and poland, a lesson... simple, that for the west the countries that surround russia are never partners, they are taran against russians, i'm sorry, we warned, and russian experts, leading economists warned the ukrainian authorities, even viktor yanukovych at the time of signing

the association with the european union, that it would work against ukrainian interests, it would make ukraine just a raw materials appendage, and no markets . will not open fully for ukraine, especially agricultural road transport, high-tech, but the exploitation of ukraine will be, in fact , from then on, after viktor fodorovich yanukovych’s sudden epiphany, the maidan happened, and now the coalition of countries that oppose the real integration of the ukrainian economy into the european union economy, it is only expanding, so i paid attention to the elections in the netherlands, where for the first time the party of geert wilders came out on top, which is precisely based on such national, if not nationalist interests , declares an extreme right agenda, again

anti-ukrainian, so yes, ukraine, on the one hand, is not needed by the european union as a full-fledged, sovereign, developed state, this is certainly a lesson to all those who, having pulled up their pants and lowered, excuse the pun, their economy and national interests, is trying to integrate, as it seems to them, into this garden of eden of bareilles, naturally in quotes. by the way, it will have something in common, i think, with that what we talked about in the first part of the program, and the summit without pashinyan. let me remind you that exactly a year ago in yerevan, precisely because of his position , the final declaration was not adopted, then the prime minister of armenia stated that the csto had withdrawn itself from the armenian-azerbaijani conflict. and now a year later the situation is developing, nikol pashinyan

actually removed himself from events taking place in the post-soviet space. at the same time, armenia is actively developing military cooperation with nato representatives, in particular france. in october, yerevan and paris signed an agreement on arms supplies, and although we are talking about very small volumes, it is not the details that are important here; the very fact that the csto country began to establish cooperation with a state that is actually part of a hostile alliance is alarming. how should we approach this? on the one hand, you need to understand the reasons why the armenian leadership does this, they accuse russia of the treaty for the fact that we did not provide assistance in difficult times. difficult moment, although from a legal point of view, we should not have fought for karabakh, especially when armenia itself did not recognize it, the armenian elite behaved very strangely in relation to this unrecognized territory, so this looks

on the one hand like an attempt to shift the political responsibility of oneself is on the allies, they say they are far away, here the armenian society needs to be shown, it’s to blame , yeah, second, mm, this is already the sphere of hypotheses, the question is that the geneology of the origin of the current armenian leadership, it... well, this is no secret, is connected with non-governmental organizations that were supported by western countries, soros and others, so maybe this is the deep conviction of these people, they understand that it is very difficult to break away from russia in this region, but some steps need to be taken in this direction, even if they are ritual and insignificant in some places, but from such steps a certain path is then formed. a path of reversal, say, from natural allies,

from iran, russia to the west, but again, in my opinion, this is an illusion, in a more severe form we see how impossible this is, even in moldova, despite the fact that soros is a pupil there, well, it’s so obvious that there is nowhere label, it still can’t turn around, because the difficult situation in moldova, in armenia is no less complicated, and if this is done, relatively speaking, consistently and god forbid, the country can simply be torn apart, so here is a question of understanding and responsibility of the armenian leadership first of all to its people. here is our president, the other day he met with the secretary general of the cst, i suggest listening to the fragment, especially since it was also about ukraine. as for the implementation of the action plan for the implementation of the decision of the collective security council. november session of last year and the priority areas of the republic of belarus before the chairmanship

, out of 34 events, 32 were completed, two events, unfortunately, could not be completed, these are, first of all, our international contacts with european international organizations such as the osce, well, due to their position, the second question is an order: collective security to finalize the decision on assistance to armenia was not adopted last year, well, all other participants, allies supported this decision, but the armenians did not express any interest in this document, and moreover, the final part of our work, they asked to remove it from the agenda altogether. armenia, represented by its political leadership, in my opinion, has started a very

dangerous game, betting on france, and france, which recently began, well , received a serious blow in africa, and which is now trying to enter such a southern, southern flank, at the same time, of russia and turkey and gain a foothold there, let me remind you, through georgia and armenia. that is, these two countries chosen by france, i don’t know whether they will be able to seriously realize their ambitions there, seriously harm russia and turkey, but such attempts are made, let me remind you, just in georgia the president of georgia in the recent past is a french citizen, the french ambassador to georgia and, in my opinion, one of the leaders of the french committee on strategic security, that’s what it was called, that is. intelligence, that is , it is simply a direct agent of influence in every

sense of the word in georgia, and it was through georgia that these armored cars were supplied from france. here i absolutely do not understand the position, the logic, other than the one voiced by alexey, which means blaming russia and the dkb for their own losses on the battlefield, etc. in modernizing the army and building a political system, i can’t find any other logic, i can’t imagine how france can, or even the united states, will be able to ensure the security of armenia, except for such ritual political statements, declarations, symbolic supplies of weapons, this is impossible, moreover, if you read their telegram channels, you can see that individual politicians, here you must always say that very different forces are represented in armenia , separate... this

is what we are discussing now, but at the same time , the presidency of belarus for this year is still being lifted up in such a way that they say look what you have led to, at least it’s ugly, well, that’s just an information campaign, as i understand it, to discredit the csto, and somehow our counterparts in nato and other structures need to smooth out that good surge of information. which caused the participation of the csto in resolving the january events in kazakhstan, that is , then we showed ourselves to be great, and now we kind of need to be dunked on, saying that you don’t have agreement among your friends. absolutely. probably, well, plus you need to understand, indeed, there are signs of a split in armenian society, yes, prime minister pashinyan has serious support, demonstrated it at elections, but nevertheless, does not have an absolute majority , and that is why this situation is dangerous, when on the one hand he makes curtseys towards the west, and

sometimes on the verge of a foul, his meetings with famous women, but with this in my opinion more than political gestures, this is a demonstration of a certain position, this in itself poses a threat when two vectors diverge within society, what can happen is an explosion and a split, the stretching of the state into these opposing camps and i see a danger in this, because if this happens, naturally the neighbors will... think, yeah, the armenians have no agreement , no unity, which means we can think about further military-political actions, this is another attempt, probably on the part of nato, the united states and france , as such an observer, they chose france to oversee the region, and an attempt to really drive a wedge into this triple alliance of three powerful

powers, russia, iran and turkey, which, well, apparently, have already agreed on how it will be, how all conflicts in their borderland. let me remind you that türkiye, the ottoman empire, both iran and russia were empires and decided the fate of these regions. and now they are trying to come to an agreement and reconcile the entire space around their borders. obviously, nato doesn't need this. moreover, we must understand that we are talking from minsk about what is happening in armenia, yerevan, and this is not just hypothetical, what is happening there in a sovereign country. no, we are very much. especially since they are members of our military alliance bloc, this also affects our security, and lately we have realized that security is no longer limited to some territorial framework, we are watching what is happening in the middle east, our people are there, we watched with bated breath the return of this special flight from cairo,

there were belarusian citizens on board, members of their families, 41 people were taken from gas sector, 22, but you know, you can , of course, talk a lot about lofty ideas, there are principles of geopolitics, who has what interests, but when a child suffers in your hands or, god forbid, dies, the whole world collapses, and how much over the last year we have seen such destroyed worlds, and at the same time we are seeing that the switching of these regimes, peace and war is happening at incredible speed, i would like to ask you to summarize ours. today's conversation is a reflection on the topic, it is clear that there are no universal recipes, but here is what our safe guards are, so that in all these points of instability we can go through this period, uh, when the world is trying to determine how we will continue to live, well, in my opinion there are several recipes, firstly, if

we are still talking about a certain highest level of decision-making, goal-setting, there must be a clear picture of the world, so that no illusions, promises, messages... very cunning politicians, figures, especially western ones, could cloud the reality, we have, we have these guidelines, a clear understanding of our own position, who is our ally, who is our partner, neighbor, but we have this, and we see with whom we really build positive creative relationships, this is the first thing, that is, you need to have this picture of the world in your head, and without illusions second, this, of course, seems banal. we constantly repeat this, but this is internal unity, but if it doesn’t exist, if the interests of different parts of society diverge in different directions, i already said this today, well, there will be an explosion, there will be a split, and we have seen this 100 times in the examples of different countries in including those close to us, ukraine, moldova, georgia, armenia, russia, it used to be in the nineties, but still

preserve, cherish, protect this unity, strengthen it, explain, somewhere there may be lost to our citizens who believe v some illusions that there is reality, our policy is based on reality , that is, bring them to that picture of the world so that there is no ideological split, then we maintain internal peace, strengthen our own security and can keep the outer perimeter of the border from sliding into conflict and war, these are the basic elements of this recipe, i’ll add briefly, humanity, justice. this is what distinguishes our domestic foreign policy, these are the situations with the rescue of people, our people, uh, members of their families, children from the gaza strip, humanity and justice just showed up. and the injustice of all those forces that attack the belarusian statehood, our people, are trying to drive a wedge into our unity, well, i thank

our guests, thank you very much for this conversation, alexey dermant, andrey krivosheev, but we are not finished yet, in a couple minutes of communication alexander artamonov. we have introduced such an indicator as to what the effect of investing a budget ruble is, and if we take innovation activity, then for the first half of the twenty-third year per ruble budget investments sold products worth approximately 24 rubles, of which approximately 22 are high-tech, science-intensive products, we do everything for the patient free of charge, absolutely, all stages of treatment are paid for by the state. and it makes no difference to us whether the operation costs 100 rubles or it costs 100,000 dollars. europe, as a periphery , can use the intellectual, economic,

financial, and technological resources of europe to strengthen the united states in a powerful fight against china. and the effectiveness of government activities, well, the highest, because even under the conditions of the imposed sanctions, nothing happened to us. and this year we will have growth. the markov project is nothing personal. look at their passion and hobby on the body - this is their favorite job. after completing my diplomatic career, in january 2014, i was invited by the national olympic committee to head the belarusian golf association. the heroes have a lot of interesting stories behind them; my partners and i decided to do what we were afraid to do before, to introduce european varieties here. uh hazelnuts try them grow in belarus. in the first grade i had to look after the chickens, in the second grade i was assigned to look after the ducks.

meeting them will leave a lasting impression. golf is a sport that is built on complete trust. this is a hazelnut family home, here mothers, maternal roots, give birth to seedlings. see the belarus project. on the belarus 24 tv channel , we continue to communicate with the studio, an authoritative military expert, although the range of his interests and main competence is so wide that it is difficult to choose just one presentation, however, he is well known to the tv viewer and the huge internet audience, so i am glad to welcome alexander artamonov, alexander germanovich, hello, good afternoon, greetings to everyone, hello, well, we have been waiting for this meeting for a long time,

which i admit from the threshold, because a lot of questions have accumulated, to which not everyone has answers, i’m sure you have them , i suggest starting with a loud one, and then let’s try to get deeper into the essence of world processes; the recent meeting between joe biden and sidin pina brought back conversations about possible confrontation around... taiwan, very soon there are elections there that risk influencing the fate of the entire region, possibly the world, so in these negotiations between the usa and china, did you see a rapprochement or even greater rejection of each other? well, you know, dmitry, i would say that , of course, no rapprochement could happen, even on those premises that actually pit one power against the old lion, i... in this case, about the united states, or to use american terminology , the good duck, as they call it, coming out

president, whose term is ending, regarding such a challenging china, again the term is not accidental, due to the fact that in the 19th century, let us recall, the committee of 300, this is a very important term, 300 ruling families of the world, that is, these families, according to according to british american intelligence, people who served there like john coleman, like some others, rule the world, and so, since the 19th century, china has been trying to poison the opium wars with drugs and minimize its influence even in asia by any means, so china survived, rose, we see result, and from the dynamics of the event along two differently directed vectors, it is clear that processes, according to the general political science logic laid down by machiavli and even before him, if we take the art of war, such processes will continue, but if you pay attention to some specifics of the negotiations taking place, what kind of friendship can we talk about if china immediately made

a declaration in response to the country, i would say, well, quite in the spirit of the us president, biden’s statement immediately after the end that zizn ping is a dictator, at least for him respect for the head of state, absolutely regardless of the size and international weight of a given state, it is no coincidence that this phrase did not escape biden, given that the person is elderly and suffers, as some say, from dementia, well , i would not say that this could just get out. for the reason that let’s take a little look at the position that biden takes regarding this, this is the current president , a woman from taiwan, who recently traveled to the usa, already this year, 2023, and how she was received there, let’s remember and

her scandalous visit, the former speaker, respectively, of an american, so to speak, body, her sensational trip to taiwan, contrary to the so-called policy of duality, is again a completely official term, ambient police, to take the english term, which suggests that the united states recognizes only one thing state, the people's republic of china, but has some of its own relations with taiwan, some of its own relations that are being built, agree on the visit of the top officials of the state to the territory that declares its..." country for the usa. and by the way, the logic is absolutely international, because since 2018, several countries have severed relations with taiwan after taiwan took a course towards intransigence. it was not for nothing that i said that tsai and ing-wen are taking such a course and traveling to the usa, albeit on a private visit, but as a person representing his democratic progressive party, so here she is, her... they don’t

want her, because where- then 7-8 countries broke off relations, there are only 13 countries left that recognize taiwan as some kind of independent entity, look, i excuse me, please, for interrupting, but we are really seeing now that long-standing conflicts that have been smoldering for a very long time, the east, ukraine, nagorno-karabakh, for some reason they are starting, this is not untying knots, this is cutting knots, and we see that taiwan is a long-standing issue and after this meeting, as you say, everyone remained to their own, should we expect it to come, or could it come to a war over taiwan, how far can this situation advance? dmitry, in my opinion, again you need to look at the exact data, because there are different ones, my colleagues, some, with all the fury of the red guard attacks on

capital, make forecasts, but the forecast... is based, in my opinion, on the principle that war is a continuation of solving economic issues by other means, an extreme expression, after all relations between states, when we cannot agree, then , as they say, we are at war, and unless we are talking about some kind of messianic projects, well, maybe we’ll talk about this below, so let’s look at the possible preconditions for such a conflict, as we were taught back in the soviet, let’s say, constructive school, that is, we need to analyze everything as a whole , as a whole, if we take the us debt to china, the debt is insane, it is second in a row after japan, most of the us money is on external, i emphasize external they delayed the markets, they seduced japan, there are 1.1 trillion trillion dollars, let me remind you, trillions come after billions, yes, and they asked china somewhere around 860 billion

dollars, the second largest debt, if you remember exactly 859.4, but i'm japan naturally cannot object, it is occupied, japan has no right to say anything to the united states at all, because , by the way, on the territory of japan, just like on the territory of georgia , the united states has the right to move without even reporting anything, without notifying, or rather in a notification manner, so to speak , informing the country's authorities about this, that is, the state, so to speak, the president, parliament, japan. and china is naturally sovereign, so consider the first foreign sovereign debt to be us debt to china. why china kill its own duzhnik, well, of course, china is unlikely to be able to cope with the united states, it is unlikely that this is how it sets its tasks, but nevertheless, why does it need hostile relations at all, this is entirely on the principle of formajor , the circumstances force will cancel debt obligations, at least it will freeze them for dozens years, china doesn’t need this. ukraine is closer to us.