[000:00:00;00] my life line, it goes through the lives of those people who in my childhood lived in books , on tv, on the stage, they were celestial beings for me, then suddenly they know about my existence, and if we talk, by the way, about those prejudices, about which we have already talked about paul i, again about irina bugrimova, and when i studied at the church school and graduated from it, she was the chairman of the cycle commission... she signed diplomas and handed them to us: the legendary people's artist of the soviet union, the first woman tamers who entered the cage with lions, a symbol of a soviet woman who gallops a horse, tames a lion, and so on, and so on, everyone is given diplomas, i am the last one, she then quietly tells me, bend down like that, she says: i

want to give you nails separately. i brought it to you, hands me a carnation, then says, well, this is probably not modest, but this is a fact of my life, she says: please remember, you are special, i congratulate you, you can imagine, but i read it as a child her book, after a while i meet with her in the central house of workers arts, i say, hello, irina nikolaevna, she says, you forgot me, and i say, it’s impossible to forget you, and... and i say, can i interview you, suddenly, i tell her, she says, please , come, i’m coming to see her on kotelnicheskaya embankment, i’m not a journalist, this is not my profession, but i know everything about her life, i did an interview with her that she said: one sunday of the month is always yours, and i’ll come to her, well probably for two years

i came every month on one sunday, i was already studying at the shchokinsky school, she and i we were talking, i recorded these conversations on a tape recorder, i once did another interview, she told me, in her book , by the way, she also has something about prejudice, that she once noticed that one person walks around all the time for her performance, he sits mostly in the first, second, third row, the best seats, and somehow after the performance she saw him already on the street. when she walked from the service entrance she said: i see you all the time, you love the circus so much, you like my attraction so much, he says: no, i’m just waiting for the lion to devour you, this is a fan, let’s talk about phantasmogoria, where we, which you already mentioned, you play a tv presenter who has gone crazy, let’s watch a short excerpt from your duet with alexander

shervent. judging by the smells, this is like a hospital, or something, judging by the smells, this is a garbage dump, give me phones, phones, phones are being taken away here, you don’t know, this used to be the home of stage veterans. oh, my god, there were so many great, over-forgotten ones, you can’t even imagine how it is it’s bitter, to see the weakness of your idols, yes, then everyone died, that’s it, i’m alone, somehow something remained here, i exist, i live like an eternal jew, an eternal jew, eternal, oh, nation,

idea, you said, to you belongs to the performance? yes, we were traveling on the train to st. petersburg, to the andrei mironov theater, alexander anatolyevich was supposed to receive a statue named after andrei mironov, i had to give him this statue and sing, which means a song from mironov’s repertoire, and we went with him together in the vestibule, we had compartments next to each other, and such you know, the meeting is cinematic, it’s just a scene, he says... he says: how are you doing? i say, yes, everything is fine, i say, listen, let's play something together, he says, i say, well, let's unite, i say, the audience, i say, you are mine, i am mine, and he says: you have the audience, i adore him, there is an audience, i say, this is what we need to put in the play

, he says, i don’t mind, but i started looking for a play, then i realized that there was no play, it had to be written, i ran to radeon yuevich ovchinnikov, asked him, in general, told him some kind of plot, then this plot, in general , so to speak, took shape, and in general i had an idea that in this chamber there would be another third important character, so to speak, a character, an actor , i wanted there to be a tv there and for the departed actors to appear on this tv, but shirvent’s partners, andrei mironov, orosova, papanov, menglet - and so that at some point he appeared on tv young, and my hero said, listen, something this dude reminds me of someone, he would say it's not a dude, it’s me, i’m very sorry that he refused it, rewrote the play once again and

came up with a great role for fyodor dobronravov, which he plays brilliantly, and i want to tell you that this is of course, you know, i talk about this more than once, in general playing with shirvint... a performance every time is like graduating from college, you understand that he knows the text of all of us around, he knows the whole play thoroughly, he improvises, he means something somewhere, he always inserts something, you have to be on alert, and that’s how some diamonds appear on this, so to speak, already beautiful necklace or necklace, well, not to mention the fact that i’m very funny, you see, it was easy to catch you, right? terrible, yes, i cry to tears, in this sense, understand, i am in no way comparing myself, but he said that andrei mironov was terribly funny, that he could simply be carried off the stage, because he could not continue play

, he cried with laughter, i have the same thing, if i catch a laugh, it’s terrible, but if the two of them, these hooligans, great and therefore brilliant good-natured people start something to do, that’s it, it’s not... he should come out like this, say, as if from the forest with imaginary brushwood, say , look, look how much brushwood i brought, but he was apparently thinking about something, it

happens, in general , fyodor comes out, with this, here's a horost, yes, he says the following, from the forest, look, look, how much cottage cheese i brought, lord, why is there all the cottage cheese, i 'm starting, how will he convince this? doesn’t speak, the worse it becomes for me. shirvind, seeing this and seeing what’s wrong with me, he finishes me off, he says: interesting version, yes, right on stage, you see, everything, this, this can go crazy, well, because, well, well, you understand , this happened to me in the cherry orchard, in a contemporary, after all, i played for 10 years in a contemporary, in amazing performances, galina borisovna volchik, that’s what happened to me in the cherry orchard, when i understood, by my own example, so to speak, experimentally, what stanislavsky means here, today, now, and what is needed for an actor to truly feel the stage, another thing is that he feels, but the audience doesn’t know it, i’ll give

you an example, i’m on my knees on the stage, here is the auditorium half a meter away, and in the second act i’m crying, i say, here’s a guy , she doesn’t love me, she doesn’t love me, here i see a woman with angular vision, so to speak, probably, how your mother treats me well, she together with me, that means, and the more my epikhodov sobs, the more she worries, that means for me, and i stand on my knees and think, oh, how good i am, that means i’m playing, what does it mean, suddenly it’s like this in my stomach, prosaically, i think to myself, i think, oh, i think, because i haven’t eaten anything all day, that’s how it is i want, but at the same time, i’m pronouncing some kind of long monologue there, she’s standing next to me, this varenka, who doesn’t love me, and that’s all i’m thinking, so where should i go to buy, i want fried chicken, such that the juice flows directly, i think, where, where can i buy it now, so that

it spins, it’s hers, and the more i, she, at some point i realized where, that means it ends there monologue, and this woman is like, i think to myself, i think, forgive me, like, you don’t know what really happens, yes i don’t like this jam at all, i say i ’m crying about the chicken, but i really felt it. therefore, well, this is professionalism, of course, i think, alexander , that it’s becoming easier and easier for you, and with experience, because only experience brings such freedom, no, well, it’s all different, this is the kind of profession when there’s no day for a man to sit in a chair and say, you know, i can do everything, i can do everything, it’s surprising that alexander anatolyevich agreed to this experiment at all, because it seems to me that lately he’s somehow been refusing everything more from work, and stage work, but he refused, by the way, before this role he

had not had a premiere for 16 years, you know what’s the matter , that’s how you talked him into it, like that, well, how do you answer your question, where are we, where are we, we are at a fateful crossroads, when a person must be responsible, first of all, for himself, for his thoughts , for his purity, for his faith, when he must not succumb to provocations, when he must think, when he must analyze based on... very few simple sayings: first: do what you must and be what will happen, second, even if tomorrow is the end of the world, plant a tree today, and third , i probably often quote this saying, some people forget to sign the lists of those present on earth, it is necessary to

sign this list with patience up to... awareness, awareness, so that you are not taken somewhere where your life will be destroyed, where the life of your country, your family, your hearth, your home, your street, your city, right now the whole planet earth, she is in this provocative mode, and if a person internally resists this and says: no, no, no, i will be conscious, calm, patient, believing, i want to save life, because to destroy is just a second, i was yesterday i read in an interview with mikhalkov, indeed, because people don’t think about a tsunami, yes, which blows away, but a tsunami starts with a small wave, but we shouldn’t allow this wave, we need to understand how beautiful

today is and preserve it if you save it today, there will be tomorrow, it is advisable to remember about yesterday, the day before yesterday, study history, because if you know history, you can prevent the terrible consequences of today or understand cause-and-effect relationships, but there is also a wonderful saying, man remember when shooting into the past with a pistol , the future will shoot at you... there are guns, why was paul i so important to me, this performance, firstly, i played it at exactly 46 years old, exactly in mid-march, when he was killed, i had to get through it and stay alive , you see, everything is in order, because if pavel had been the first to be given the opportunity to carry out what he had in mind, what he wanted for the country , for the common man, by the way,

common people loved him very much, many terrible events of the 21st century would not have happened, they were would have been docked, but he was brutally killed by someone else’s hands, someone else’s, so we shouldn’t allow this, and now we’ll take a short break, after a short pause, we’ll return to this studio again, for now, subscribe to our telegram channel, say don’t be silent. find all our episodes on youtube channel belarus 1. each of the heroes of the project is engaged in an important matter, the main custodian of funds is an earthly profession, very responsible, our team collects and preserves materials about

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performed the role you play, after all, there is some connection with andrei mironov, no , it was, it was deliberately done so that there would be no... there would be no comparisons, it was a play by mademoiselle nitouche at the vakhtangovo theater, which was staged during the great patriotic war, when the vakhtangovo theater i was in evacuation in omsk, then this performance was already transported to moscow, when the theater returned, and uh, imagine post-war moscow - well, this is a completely different life, it’s black and white, here suddenly there’s a holiday. as vakhtangov actually bequeathed, when he staged princess thorando, also in a joyless time, when the stage was a riot of colors, orchestra, music, life, life, in 2004, again a transitional

period for the country, a performance was needed, joy, plus in the grishaev theater, which is absolutely. although he is 19 years old, they played in october the 500th performance, and when they ask, how can you play like the first time, well, i didn’t play all 500, because improvisation and the desire to fill the