but this image had already become so disturbing that it had to be done urgently. liliya nishchik, belarusian sculptor, painter, ceramist. the red thread in her work was the study of myths, symbols and images of ancient civilizations. and the main discovery is that the belarusian archaic culture has much more in common with other world cultures than they have differences. troitskoe suburb, a small, quiet corner in the center of noise. city, cozy architecture,

small courtyards, near the svisloch embankment . for lily nischik, such places will never are not passable, even if she is in a hurry on business, she will always find a few minutes to stop herself and stop the moment , you just need to walk along the street, there is something to watch, to think about something, to see a stone, something is already starting an unusual shape or, let’s say, it even starts to look like a butterfly... the most important thing, according to lilia, is not to miss this image, but to sketch it right away, so a pen and a couple of sheets of white paper are always with you, for an artist it’s very simple, he maybe hang out at home, just cooking there soup, for example, yes, he may freeze and he will no longer be interested in it, that is, or let’s say, you can wake up in the middle of the night , because in your head, when... an idea,

you fall asleep there, suddenly this idea begins to come true, you have to get up and quickly sketch it, because in the morning you may not remember, all the captured images then end up in a special folder with sketches. lilia calls her belongings. thanks to these accumulated treasures, she does not have the problem that is familiar to many creative people. there is no need to wait for inspiration to go away. all ideas. i write them down, fold them so as not to lose them, i’m always at hand, why do i kind of have my ideas , that’s all, because i already have them, now i’m working on this image, i have the next one coming up, but that doesn’t mean what exactly this specific image will work, that is , i am revising the sketches there, what is closer to me, what is there for me, like this, what to do next, this, this, this means now i will start working.

lilia has developed such a responsible attitude towards her work since her student days. even in her youth, the aspiring artist dreamed of becoming a sculptor, but as it turns out, the path to this profession is much more difficult for women than for men. lilia walked towards her dream slowly and persistently, art school, then the famous glebov school, unsuccessful attempts for several years to enroll in painting at the academy of arts, as a result. she enters the department of decorative and applied arts. years later, lilia will understand that fate itself made the right choice for her. when i left the walls of the academy, i began to look for my path, and so i found it in that, with the help of ceramics you can create sculptures, completely logical and self-sufficient sculptures, that is, i can embody myself as a sculptor, it turned out to be such a wide field of activity, that is, i can decorate. as

an arts and crafts artist he works as both a sculptor and a painter. even in her student years, lilia became interested in the topic of belarusian archaism, ancient slavic mythology, how, according to ancient beliefs, man, nature, and space were interconnected. through what symbols was this connection manifested? water symbol, yes, water movement, symbol of the sun, here is a symbol there, let’s say feminine, when our hands go ... gods, that is, it is kind of closed, that is, nature is resting, yes, it is accumulating strength for further revival, the plot is mythological, the style is conceptualism, an art form , monumental and decorative, such is the dry description of this series of works on various artillery sites, but each of them can be examined in detail for hours and discover new meanings for oneself, one could endlessly continue one and the same theme, but how ... .artists stop at something,

let’s say you could endlessly paint flowers, cornflowers, well, let’s put it in a primitive way, yes, here, but i want to try something, something even more complicated, then i ’m moving on... in plans for a multi-figure composition, about world problems such global problems, there is globalization, for example, yes, uh, digitalization too, in order to build entire floors of different meanings, the master must do a huge amount of internal work, which is often invisible to the eye of an ordinary person and often incomprehensible. rethinking a theme that hooked an artist and won’t let go, the process long very personal. it’s not just that work is done, oh, i want to do something there, that is, it is studied, literature is studied, people’s lifestyles are studied, fiction is counted there, and then when it accumulates, the vessel overflows, yes, from it

coming out means an image, so you need to do it quickly, because sometimes the image bothers you, so when i made it, that is, i walked for a long time, i had a big stove, i didn’t know where to do it, but this image began to bother me so much that it had to be done urgently, obsessive ideas, that is, there, ah, well, it’s hard, but i need something, i’ll make a cup, no , i have to do it, every corner of my small homeland delights in them, i drove through this village, walked along the streets, called upon these pabudovs, what they were all. this is my, one might say, favorite place, i remember where , where i even caught the first perch, how much joy i had, who was so full of pride, they know everything about how to run a farm, i had to buy this honey, and i thought, why should i buy it if i do all this, i know, now we’ll put in a fresh frame,

i think they will pull it off in a week and are ready to endlessly find inspiration in the simplest things, these are the leaves, this... the season of heyday, napeina, no adzin watery aspect of belarus, not so many leaping agendas and falls, like a krynichka , i got some kind of stress, well, just a little, you come here to the shore, sit down, look at the water, so you calm down, remove yourself, well, negative emotions, watch palishuki’s project on the belarus 24 tv channel, in each program there are new heroes, we are bakers by education, along with this higher education, i will teach korean language, korean language, yes, unpredictable questions, what were the names of the brothers who were raised by a she-wolf according to legend? so , the obligatory version, a chill on the forks

, don’t take everything so literally, and unexpected answers to them, maybe it somehow rhymes with dimyan, well, not thymyan, but somehow. maybe porridge, i don’t know, some kind , this is a sport in which you have to move backwards, i accept the answer rome, the correct answer, milan, santa maria delegation, in milan, build a tower, watch in an intellectual show, the tower on a tv channel belarus 244. two works by liliya nishchik devoted to the study of the theme of myth in belarus are in the collection of the national art museum. not every sculptor receives this honor, although according to

liliya, there are many modern authors whose works simply must be in the collection of the country’s main museum. in our national museum and in general in any museum in the world. should be represented, well, all the artists, at least a little bit, at least there are three works, five works, but still they should be presented, because it turns out that the author is working for himself, makes exhibitions, and then the works begin to go somewhere abroad, where they are scattered in private collections, after all , this is a national treasure, it seems to me that they should be in our museum, and these are not just lofty words, our heroism is recognized , after all, an artist in any country is shaped by the environment, worldview, culture, history, language, environment, the environment is important, of course , that is, if i was born here, yes, we have lakes, swamps, forests, all of a sudden throwing me into, let’s say, the desert, well, how hard it would be,

you see, it would be, yes, just like our roots, our ancestors, it was already born with us, and no matter where we are, that is , it will remain with us, so, but without it there, let’s say, i wouldn’t i was able to live, let’s say , abroad for a long time, because our roots, here they are in my root, following the study of the topic of the belarusian archaism, lilia’s interests... beggar expanded. it moved from belarusian mythology to the myths of the peoples of the world. the origins of indian civilization, ancient egypt, india and china. she also went deep into studying the topic and came to the conclusion: the idea of ​​good and evil, the strength of the race and the power of nature, the planet as a whole and man as a part of it, they are all incredibly similar, among such seemingly different peoples. myth, it’s like, itself... a principle, symbols, in general it is, yes, when i studied books,

literature, i realized that it is almost the same everywhere, that’s why the world of people exists in general, after all exists in order to protect our planet here from some kind of madness, we must preserve it, that is, yes, not behave like a king animals there or something else, yes, but we are a pawn, in fact, in infinity, and yet our essence should be that we must preserve this earth, the things that lilia speaks about through her creativity, the very in fact, they are quite deep, complex, requiring certain preparation from the viewer. many people have a vague idea about such trends in art as conceptualism, symbolism, surrealism. lilia once taught a course for adult students and once invited them to an exhibition and i realized that they didn’t understand anything, they told me so

they immediately said that they didn’t understand anything, although honestly, it was surprising for me, well, it seemed to me that people came to engage in art, creativity, and they didn’t quite understand what i meant, but on the other hand, here now, when exhibitions are held, now there is this instagram, facebook, there is this information field and people seem to send me their reviews, then i see that people understand me. that is, people understand and they even describe their description, what they understood, what they saw, and even interestingly, what they would like to think about, for lilia, this is the best compliment if her work makes at least someone stop to think, however, another opinion is often heard, and maybe it should be simpler, why create such complex conceptual works when you have an understandable profession, well, that’s the problem, of course, because i remember at the academy many

of us did this, well, they make medals for the new year there, and there are some souvenirs there, 100 pieces, 200, then the new year ends where are these souvenirs there, well especially the year of some animals, well, i looked at it all, somehow tried to do something, i think, well, this is a waste of time, that is, it’s still not mine, i realized that i can’t do this , but i want to look, well, in a more complicated way, you know, this is a creative process, that is, uh, i shouldn’t get bored with it, this is my favorite thing, that is, if i don’t like it, i won’t do it. the current topic that worries lilia nishchek is images of world civilizations, as she called a series of portraits, each of which is precisely reflects the vision of the authors of this or that civilization, let’s say, this is our slavic image, i think this is... goddess lelya, i just depicted her as if she were such a playful hooligan, here the wind

is developing, in the hands of lily nishchik today there is a huge palette of tools, there is no shortage of ideas, like in her youth, she has a huge number of ideas, ideas for plans. she has found her path and is following it without betraying herself and without bending to anyone’s immediate needs. she is developing. discovers new topics, looks for unusual techniques, i combine here and the structure of the letter, in some places i write smoothly, yes, in some places in volume , in others i make foxing, in others i simply squeeze paints out of a tube directly on the canvas and mix them, without even using a palette, that is, this is purely for me personally, this is my life, i like this, i get pleasure from it, that is, i don’t have to suffer there, look for a muse, inspiration. now i know that i have many creative plans, and i need to implement them, that is, i don’t have

time to be bored, or sad, a real artist is a person who in fact, she constantly breaks stereotypes, our heroine is excellent at doing this in literally every work, but there is one global stereotype, as liliya herself says, which she would like to change. breaking stereotypes, what you can do and some little thing, but there are cups, teapots, plates, but you can still do real creativity like that. let’s say real art is more global and solves more global problems, i want it to be not, not decorative applied art, yes, that’s it i had a sculptor.

the help of god's word and the principles of christian life. if we remember that above us, above everything , that jesus christ is formed from people, from living stones, from those who live in the world, from those who live in eternity, spiritual

laws and life instructions from clergy. can a person cross himself to remain not broken, yes , but to be rich, i give you the opportunity, and this means that i am rich, conversations about morality and reflections on the eternal values, sam'ya, home, peace of mind at home, zayemorozumne at home, at samiya, this is just that vodguk and this translation of the highest understandings of the holy scripture in our life.

watch spiritual and educational projects on the belarus 24 tv channel. hello, we welcome everyone who is with us now in the studio alexey dermant and andrey krivasheev, and a little later we are waiting for the inclusion of a military expert from russia, alexander artamonov, although if you think about it, probably all serious experts recently with a military bias, i suggest starting with this, why, because if we look at the ongoing processes, we will see that there are networks... old conflicts, they began to open like abscesses, there is karabakh, ukraine, the middle east, the feeling that everyone has decided for themselves that this is no longer there will be no audit, there will be no more delays for later, at any cost, no matter what , we will deal with these problems now, otherwise we simply will not go further. if you follow this logic, then the conclusion suggests itself that the world has in such a situation there are two ways, either

they will finish him off completely, or we will finally jump out. from this old principle, from this paradigm of controlled chaos. but we, alexey valerievich, what are we closer to, after all, which of these two options will we achieve, or will we go further, well, i think there will be some kind of average, that is, a period of such turbulence, geopolitical, economic, and a period, when a certain new world order crystallizes, its contours will appear, but this period will of course bring many problems, that’s when... everyone will understand that these problems have already are excessive, they concern everyone, including the outgoing hegemon, someone who may come to his place, then there will be a need to somehow agree on new rules so that conflicts are within some limits and no longer spread uncontrollably, well, it will be clear that

we will have to somehow live together on the planet, that there is no need to destroy it and that new ones are needed. because the time has not come yet, in fact , no one is ripe for this in america, they are convinced that they will survive this period and maintain their dominance, yes, china has reluctance, of course, to get into confrontation, but obviously they have a different philosophy of development and acquisitions there. but as for the west and specifically the core of the west represented by the united states, they are very aggressively fighting for their place in the sun, it is obvious that they are losing their position. they lose their authority, their ability to influence different regions of the world at the same time to play this game also weakens, so they become more aggressive

, they use this strategy of chaos like this, we will create problems for our potential or obvious competitors, we will solve our internal problems, well, then we’ll enter the new world again in a high position, that’s their strategy at the moment. andrey evgenovich, what do you think? well, these shots from san francisco for me... said a lot and the agenda that the two main powers declared today in the world economy, we once went through this stage in our soviet history, remember the famous phrase of boris nikolaevich yeltsin , take as much sovereignty as you want, that is, when the union center has weakened, and conflicts have gotten out of control, and each of modern subjects of the russian federation, the soviet republics began to fight - under the sun for their piece of land, economy , uh, power, and sovereignty, and so now it’s like

two, two main powers, china and the united states of america, they took half a step back, and how would tell the whole world that we now have our own internal problems that we want to solve, for the united states, this is understandable, a very painful transit, the authorities are engaged in their elections, but these are problems with migration, this is not an uncontrolled wave of these here are terrible crimes with weapons, that is, the proliferation of weapons in american society, problems of racism , and so on and so forth, a new attempt to get into a new technological economic stage of development, for china this is the development of the domestic market, this is the creation of new production facilities, the same chips, these are problems in the real estate market, these are global... projects in eurasia in general, the two hegemons, as it were, or the two leading economies of the world, have grown a little to the side, this is where such a varnish

of time has really appeared when countries that want to strengthen their sovereignty, who want to solve, like azerbaijan or turkey, their long-standing geopolitical ambitions , problems to restore sovereignty, they are taking advantage of this step back, and yes, we talked a lot about multipolarity, but we said little about the transition to multipolarity, unfortunately, what most often happens through military conflicts, through blood, alas, this is the fact that in san francisco, on key issues of the world, the leaders of the united states and china did not agree, and the agenda went to chemical production there. in pandas, in who, what kind of power system, dictatorship, not dictatorship, who produces what kind of cars, it just gave the world

a signal that the next year, or probably a year and a half, after it settles down after the elections in the usa, after, perhaps, the problem of taiwan is resolved peacefully through diplomatic means, through these also internal elections, local ones, then, then only after this, it means that the main economies of the world will look, look around the world and say, well, yes, now let’s come to an agreement, now let's see who can hold what, yes, now let's have ukraine, which, too, which was touched upon in san francisco, and the date is special, it was exactly 10 years since the moment when a tent city appeared in the center of kiev, which gave rise to the second maidan, then no one could yet see that what lies ahead is not just a government demonstration, shooting, snipers on roofs, mass casualties , the establishment of a fundamentally new political regime in the country, according to official data alone, 121 dead and more than 2,000 wounded.

this is the result of the revolution of dignity, as it is called called in ukraine. and by the way, the first maidan of 2004, the so-called orange revolution, began on november 22, that is, the tragic month of modern ukrainian history. and so they started talking about the maidan again, this time zelsky, the president of ukraine is afraid of a new maidan in an attempt to create chaos, in his opinion, russia is to blame, will it reach a new maidan, alexey vadrievich, ukraine? well, i doubt that this is what we traditionally understand by maidanans, that is, the appearance of a mass of people in the square, the swing of the situation there, the political situation, because firstly, such a military-terrorist dictatorship has been established in ukraine, and i doubt that anyone will even be allowed to gather. another thing is that there is an internal change in the power structures, obvious dissatisfaction of part of the military with zelsky, and part of society is growing skeptical about

the relationship with the military there. victory, despite the fact that the propaganda has befuddled the majority of ukrainians, plus there is obviously already pressure from the western side, the americans, some europeans are trying to push zelsky to the elections so that he goes and loses, because his ratings are not so hot, that is, against this background, he needs to again get a trump card in the form of an enemy, the image of an enemy and, accordingly, avoid changes in power, so zelsky is trying to do this, trying to maintain his position, but it is becoming increasingly difficult for him to do this, because he is afraid, of course, not of ordinary citizens who will come out to maidan nezalezhnosti, but of unrest among the military, in some kind of power structures, and the cessation of political, financial, military support from key western countries, this is for him like death, he fears it most of all.

look, western pilgrims, i almost said, flocked to kiev, well, really, to the holy places, until they were completely destroyed by the kiev regime, and so last week, big shots, big western politicians, it was cameron, who, let me remind our viewers, is now heading british foreign ministry, on monday the head of the pentagon , the american austin, arrived, then the german minister of defense pistorius, the head of the european council charles michel, some others, what kind of support group is this, what is their purpose have you arrived? well, on the one hand, indeed, this is primarily moral and informational support, to show that he is not alone, that they are still with him, but on the other hand, obviously, in my opinion, help will be reduced, and it is necessary to explain, to convince zelsky , that this is good, that this is in his interests, perhaps someone comes with messages, well, if we do not concern the military, after all, certain political changes,

someone probably. talks about elections, someone is trying to find out what is going on inside the ukrainian government, an auditor came to us, there is one of the main motives, yes, they are scanning the situation, trying to convince of some decisions that are beneficial for themselves, trying to convince that a reduction in support is normal, and that guys, well, you had your homework, a counter-offensive, you as if they failed, so let's think about other options, not so expensive for these... auditors, that is , positions are being clarified, and i think, gentle, maybe not very, pressure on zelsky in a beneficial way for western states. there is another motive here in these visits, because what hope was there? the hope was that, rebuilt according to the nato model, equipped with nato equipment, albeit old from the last generation, it would solve all the issues at the front, that is, they would put these abrams there, they would put the leopards there.

they would put up missiles, and they say the russians should have seen this and run, that is, the front should have collapsed, they should have reached the crimea, they should have cut this land channel to the crimea, but nothing happened, that ’s one of the motives, probably how i myself i can imagine this, and why didn’t you get it, why weren’t you scared and ran, and why didn’t... it worked huge , they say the amount is already 230 billion dollars, this is military aid, why didn’t it work? and if it didn’t work in ukraine, where is the guarantee that it will work in other conflict areas of the world, but here you need to understand, another fact, i still wanted to roll back to this notorious maidan coup d’etat, we have seen more than one, here

by the way, we shouldn’t forget the revolution in... which is remembered in kiev when students in in 1989, they went out, slept on the same independence square, froze everything they could, but after each coup d'etat, the elite that came to power became more and more irresponsible, less and less manageable, more and more corrupt, less and less effective, this is some kind of... that curse of the great ukrainian people, when this foam of the maidan raises, throws up, seemingly people from the people, seemingly people who know how to clearly formulate thoughts, who know how to stand for everything good, but in reality it turned out that these are just talkers, these are charlatans in power, i really hope that there is no next maidan, i’m sure, i agree with alexei here that there will be no classic maidan, most likely there will really be a military junta, well look what a phobia

the secretary has in kiev now... kiev is concerned that western countries are calling on it to engage in dialogue with moscow. they forbade themselves, zelsky forbade himself. to negotiate, the president of belarus commented on this step several times, saying, well, it’s, it’s just stupidity, no, that zelsky surrounds himself with arguments in order to be removed as quickly as possible , he signed this memorandum for himself, which prohibits it, now the desan publication gave an interview, where he freely said how he is endlessly hunted and attempted there are five or six, well, he said, in fact, an attempt on my life is the norm, many people began to say that, in general, he... he himself gave an argument for western friends to eliminate him at any moment, everyone will understand , and russia did it, i still think it’s more likely

on the contrary, he wants to remain the only counterparty of all these western auditors in ukraine, even then there was one , one version, of this arrival of the current attention from western politicians, this time in the version of the russian foreign intelligence service, i will quote: the west, demands from the zelsky regime demonstrate to the world community the impossibility of russia’s victory in the ukrainian conflict, and for this, washington and london recommend that kiev lower the draft age to 17 years, raise the conscription age to 70 years, carry out additional mobilization of women, in this there is logic, yes, because if someone monitors the information space of ukraine, there has been a large-scale information campaign going on there for about 2 months, which talks about the fact that women are at the front in the army on the battlefield, it’s good that dozens thousands of ukrainian women are literally eager to go to the front, and they say, look men, if women are eager, then how you disgracefully make your way through these trees onto

moldovan territory, like there was a video there, or you are running away from mobilization, but how can you afford the women that whether for you, people will fight, no, come on. and yes, a large-scale company, when especially these thugs from azov, and from neo-nazi battles they come out into the space mixed with obscenities and talk about how no, the students will not sit out, and why can’t an eighteen-seventeen-year-old be given a weapon in his hands, he is capable of fighting , he is capable of being that very meat at the front, it’s koshli who solves the maidan issue, however, there will be no one to gather, well, i think you should trust the information that the russian foreign intelligence service receives, and here, well, it’s kind of double

the bottom, yes, on the one hand, western politicians, yes, in this way can advise zelsky, well, to stay in power longer and longer, on the other hand, they understand that the longer this so-called on the part of ukraine, and russia, for example, lasts , slows down their progress in some way, the more profitable the subsequent negotiation positions will be for them, i think it has been calculated that, well, this mobilization, where from 17 to 70 years, well , let’s say, will delay either the negotiation process for another six months, or let’s say active actions on the part of russia at the front, and this this means that they will solve some of their problems there, perhaps in the united states , perhaps they will hold elections to the european parliament, they need this pause, but how can they fill this pause with truly ukrainian cannon fodder, so that then, in a year and a half, they will eventually end up with

elections, they will say, well, listen, we’ve already given you the last chance, the ukrainian authorities have already mobilized , which means whoever they can, again nothing worked out, well, that’s it, just let’s negotiate, well, there’s another nuance, because it’s not by holding elections , zelsky is suspended from hook, he is no longer a legitimate president, his term of office has ended , there are no elections, the state of emergency remains, and , as it were, keeps him in this leadership chair, that is , he becomes doubly controlled by this little figure on the cover of time magazine, leaving in a half-page spread , which can be manipulated in any way you like, that is, you can nullify any guarantees that were given to him before to say, listen, well, we ’re keeping you, that’s for... in the near bright future in a friendly european family, but the reality turned out to be completely different, this is how it is expressed in the european union itself, by hungarian prime minister viktor orban.

our task will be to correct the erroneous promise to start negotiations, since ukraine is now many light years away from the eu, orban said and added that preventing ukraine from joining the eu will be one of viktor orban is fighting for the national interests of hungary, he understands that relatively speaking, such a neighbor, already a full member of the eu, is a huge problem for hungary, well, firstly, these masses of poor ukrainians from a destroyed country, they will naturally go through hungary, some will settle in hungary, bringing problems with them, that is - orban understands that there is no time for slogans and no time for pictures, when they are beautiful, on the maps , yes, when borel declares, here we will accept 10 more balkan countries or... that is, he clearly has these maps in his head, how

the european union is expanding and approaching russia, and here the person understands that this will bring a huge amount problems, and none of the criteria, ukraine does not meet any of the criteria for joining the eu, neither in terms of development, nor in terms of respect for human rights , the rights of minorities, including the hungarian minority, yes, that is, ukraine - its admission to the eu is a huge mirage and phantom , both on the part of the europeans and on the part of the ukrainian authorities, but - to maintain faith in this phantom, it is necessary that there is generally some point in them fighting for something, this is the only reason why this rhetoric is used, although now there is no time rushes towards the european union, this is a bad omen, even dogs began to rush at european presidents, this is a curious moment, it is full of special symbolism, so we will touch on it now, although the actors there are not laughing now, and then

the injured hand of president vanderbelin was caught on camera lenses, reports that he feels well, and we will, of course, take his word, sandu explained that the dog rushed at the guests out of fear, there were too many people around, and if we seriously move on to this topic, that’s what orban said, but we also keep in mind what is happening now on the polish, polish-ukrainian border, it also doesn’t seem like they were expecting ukraine’s entry into the european union with flowers. union, unless what is happening now in ukraine, with ukraine, is not a lesson that moldova and the baltic countries and poland should learn. the lesson is simple: for the west, the countries that surround russia are never partners, they are a battering ram against the russians, isn’t it? we warned, and russian experts, leading economists warned the ukrainian authorities, even viktor yanukovych, at the time of signing.

association with the european union, that it will work against ukrainian interests, it will make ukraine just a raw material appendage, no markets will fully open for ukraine, especially agricultural road transport, high-tech, but the exploitation of ukraine will, in fact , begin at the same time, after a sudden epiphany victor fodorovich yanukovych, the maidan happened, now a coalition of countries..." that are speaking out against the real integration of the ukrainian economy into the european union economy, it is only expanding, i would pay attention to the elections in the netherlands, where for the first time the party of geert wilders came out on top, which, based precisely on such national, if not nationalist interests, declares extremely right-wing agenda, again anti-ukrainian. therefore, yes, ukraine,

on the one hand, is not needed by the european union as a full-fledged, sovereign, developed state, a full member of the european union, on the other hand, dmitry is here aleksanovi is absolutely right, this is certainly a lesson for all those who, by lifting up their pants and lowering their national interests, excuse the pun, their economy, are trying to integrate, as it seems to them, into this paradise... from barel, naturally in quotes. this is the most important topic; by the way, it will have something in common, i think, with what we talked about in the first part of the program, and the summit without pashenyan. let me remind you that exactly a year ago in yerevan it was precisely because of his position that the final declaration was not adopted, then the prime minister of armenia stated that the csto had withdrawn itself from armenian-azerbaijani conflict. and now a year later the situation is developing, nikol pasheniya. has actually withdrawn from events taking place in the post-soviet space, but

at the same time, armenia is actively developing military cooperation with representatives of nato, in particular france. in october, yerevan and paris signed an arms supply agreement, and although we are talking about very small volumes, it is not the details that are important here. the very fact that the csto country began to establish cooperation with a state that is actually part of a hostile alliance. how should we approach this? on the one hand it is necessary. to understand the reasons why the armenian leadership is doing this, they accuse russia of the dkb that we did not provide assistance at a difficult, difficult moment, although from a legal point of view, we should not have fought for karabakh, especially when armenia itself did not admitted, the armenian elite behaved very strangely in relation to this unrecognized territory, so this looks on the one hand as an attempt to shift the political responsibility of themselves

onto the allies, they say they are far away, that’s the armenian society is here and it is necessary to show who is to blame, second... this is already the realm of hypotheses, the question is that the genealogy of the origin of the current armenian leadership, it is, well, this is not a secret, is connected with non-governmental organizations that are, were supported by western countries, soros and others, so maybe this is the deep-seated conviction of these people, they understand that it is very difficult to break away from russia in this region, but... steps in this direction need to be taken, even if they are somewhere ritual, insignificant, but from such steps, then a certain path is formed, a path of reversal, say, from natural allies, from iran to russia, to the western side, but again, in my opinion, this is an illusion, in a more rigid form we see

how impossible this is, even in moldova, despite the fact that there is a student of soros, well, that’s how it is. obviously, there is no place to put a brand, it still can’t turn around, because the difficult situation in moldova, in armenia is no less difficult, and if this is done, well, relatively speaking, consistently and god forbid, suddenly, the country may simply break, so here is a question of understanding and responsibility of the armenian leadership, first of all, to its people, here is our president, the other day he met with the secretary general of the udkb, i suggest listening to the fragment, especially since there was also something about ukraine, regarding the implementation of the action plan on the implementation of the decision of the collective security council of the november session of last year and the priority areas of the republic of belarus, in front of the chairmanship, out of thirty-four events, 32 were completed, two events, to

unfortunately, we could not fulfill this, first of all, our international contacts with european international organizations such as the osce, well, due to their position, the second question is the order of the collective security council to finalize decisions on assistance to armenia, which were not adopted last year, but everything the rest of the participants, the allies, supported this decision, but the armenians did not express any of their... interest in this document and , moreover, in the final part of our work, they asked to remove it from the agenda altogether. armenia, represented by its political the leadership, in my opinion, has started a very dangerous game, betting on france, and

france, which recently began, received a serious blow in africa, and which is now trying to enter such... the southern flank of both russia and turkey and to gain a foothold there, i remind you, through georgia and armenia, that is, these two countries chosen by france, i don’t know whether they will be able to seriously realize their ambitions there, seriously harm russia and turkey, but to make such attempts, let me remind you, it’s just that in georgia the president of georgia recently a citizen of france, ambassador of france. in georgia and, in my opinion, one of the leaders of the french committee for strategic security, something it was called, that is, strategic intelligence, that is, it is simply a direct agent of influence in every sense of the word in georgia, and it was

through georgia that these armored cars were supplied from france, it’s absolutely incomprehensible to me here. there is no logic other than the one voiced , which means blaming the dkb on russia for its own losses on the battlefield, in modernizing the army and in building a political system i can’t find any other logic, i can’t imagine how france, or even the united states, can ensure the security of armenia, except for such ritual political statements, declarations, forceful supplies of weapons, this is impossible. moreover, if you read their telegram channels, you can see that individual politicians, here it must always be said that very different forces are represented in armenia, individual armenian politicians, in addition to this... throwing their political problems onto the csto, this we are with you now

we are discussing, but at the same time, we are also sneakily laying down the presidency of belarus for this year, saying, look what you have led to, at least it’s ugly, well, this is only an information company, as i understand it, to discredit the udkb, our counterparts need to somehow nato and other structures, to smooth out, this is the good splash of information that the participation of the csto caused in there are signs of a split in armenian society, yes, prime minister pashinyan has serious support, demonstrated it in the elections, but nevertheless, there is no absolute majority has, that's why this situation is dangerous when... on the one hand, he makes curtseys towards the west, and sometimes on the verge of a foul, his meetings with famous women, and

with ukrainian, with ours, these are, in my opinion, more than political gestures, this is a demonstration of a certain position, this in itself poses a threat when two vectors diverge within society, what can happen is an explosion and split, stretching... of the state into these opposing camps and i see a danger in this, because if this happens, naturally, the neighbors will think, yeah, the armenians have no agreement, no unity, which means we can think about further military-political actions, this is another attempt here, probably on the part of nato, the united states and france , as such, you they chose france to look after the region, and the attempt is to really drive a wedge into this triple alliance of the three mighty powers of russia, iran and turkey, which, well, apparently, have already

agreed on how it will be, how all conflicts will be resolved in their border areas, let me remind you, that turkey, the ottoman empire, iran, and russia were empires and decided the fate of these regions. and now they are trying to come to an agreement and reconcile the entire space around their borders, and we must understand that we are talking from minsk about what is happening in armenia, yerevan, and this is not just hypothetical, what is happening there in a sovereign country, no , we are very strongly interconnected, especially since they are already members of our military alliance bloc, this also affects our security, and we have recently, we have realized that security, it is no longer limited to any territorial boundaries, we are watching what is happening in the middle east , our people are there, we watched with bated breath the return of this special flight from cairo, there were belarusian citizens, members of their families, 41 people on board

22 children were taken out of the gas sector, but you know, you can of course talk a lot about lofty ideas, there are principles of geopolitics , who has what interests, but when a child suffers in your hands or, god forbid, dies, the whole world collapses, how much for last year we saw such destroyed worlds? and at the same time we observe that the switching of these regimes, peace and war, is not happening at incredible speed, i would like to ask you to summarize our conversation today with a reflection on the topic, it is clear that there are no universal recipes, but this is what our fuse, so that at all these points of instability we can go through this period of ae, when the world is trying to determine how we will continue to live, well, in my opinion, there are several recipes, firstly, if we are still talking about the highest a certain level of decision-making, goal setting, there must be a clear picture of the world so that no

illusions, promises, messages from very cunning politicians, figures , especially western ones, could cloud the reality, we have, we have these guidelines, a clear understanding of our own position, who our ally, who is our partner, neighbor, but we have this, and we see with whom we really build positive... relationships, this is the first thing, that is, you need to have this picture of the world in your head, and without illusions, the second is of course, well, it seems banal, we repeat it all the time, but this is internal unity, if it doesn’t exist, if the interests of different parts of society diverge in different directions, i already said this today, well, there will be an explosion, there will be a split, and we have seen this 100 times in the examples of different countries, including close ones to us, ukraine, moldova, georgia, armenia, russia, it used to be in the nineties, this, after all , to preserve, cherish, protect, this unity,

strengthen it, explain it somewhere there, may be the best thing for our citizens. who believes in some illusions that there is reality, our policy is based on reality, that is, leading to a picture of the world so that there is no ideological split, then we maintain internal peace, strengthen our own security and can keep the outer perimeter of the border from sliding into conflict and war, these are the basic elements of this recipe, i’ll add briefly, humanity, justice, this is what distinguishes our domestic... foreign policy, these are the situations with the rescue of people, our people, members of their families, children from the gaza strip, humanity has just manifested itself, justice and injustice of all those forces that attack the belarusian statehood, our people are trying to drive a wedge into our unity, well, i thank our guests, thank you very much for this conversation, alexey dermant, andrey krivosheev,

but we are not finished yet, in a couple minutes of communication alexander artamon. tsar bayar veche, this is the traditional form of government for us for centuries, this is the base, and to it we can and should add a superstructure from what are called democratic institutions, this is... elections leader, that is, the president, and parliamentary elections, and a national referendum, it is important for me that you appreciate not the form about the tsar, but the essence of what i am saying, when we , by strengthening the supreme national assembly, return the historical veche to the governance system, it does not contradict the strong leader, but complements the system. what is the difference between a politician and a statesman, a politician thinks about future elections, and a statesman thinks about future

generations, we can do something to help the world find peace only if... if we ourselves have order at home, because if if we suddenly have a mess, then we will have neither time nor energy left for the world’s problems. into the propaganda project, watch on the belarus 24 tv channel. a proper morning should begin with a proper breakfast, this will be one of my favorite breakfasts, we will prepare zucchini pancakes along with red fish, in addition to this we will prepare a healthy green salad, and i will cook stuffed... today our friends are celebrating the belly, we will help make the first meal tasty, healthy, what a beauty, i didn’t have breakfast, so i can’t i can’t wait to get started, carefully add some salt and pepper to the sauce, then dress the salad and when you’re done, please cut the fish, i’m very interested in how to choose quality thyme? first of all, pay attention to

the packaging, it must be airtight, and do not forget to invigorate it. from this position , push yourself up, raising your pelvis, stretch the entire front line of your body, you should try to jump on your full foot on bent knees to protect the knee joint. watch the breakfast of the champion program on the belarus 24 tv channel. we continue to communicate with the studio an authoritative military expert, although the range of his interests and main competence is so wide that it is difficult to choose just one presentation, however, the tv viewer and the huge internet audience are very familiar with him, so i am glad to welcome you to us alexander artamonov, alexander germanovich, hello, good afternoon, greetings to everyone, hello, well, we have been waiting for this meeting for a long time,

i admit from the threshold, because a lot of questions have accumulated, to which not everyone has answers. i'm sure you have them , i suggest starting with a loud one, and then let's try to get deeper into the essence of world processes, the recent meeting between joe biden and xiding brought back to the agenda conversations about a possible confrontation around taiwan, but very soon there will be elections that risk affecting the fate of the entire region, possibly the world, here you are in these negotiations what did the usa and china see, rapprochement or even greater rejection of each other? well, you know, dmitry, i would say that, of course, no rapprochement could happen, even on those premises that actually oppose one the power of the old lion, in this case i’m talking about the usa, or , if you use american terminology, the good duck, as they call the outgoing president whose term is ending, in relation to such

a challenging china, again it was not accidental due to the fact that indeed in the 19th century , let us remind you, the committee of 300, this is a very important term of 300 ruling families of the world, that is, these families, according to british... intelligence data to the people who served there, like john coleman, like some others, rule the world, and so since the 19th century, the chinese tried to poison drugs, opium wars and by any means to minimize its influence, even in asia, and now china has survived, risen, we see the result, and from the dynamics of the event along two multidirectional vectors, it is clear that the processes, according to the general political science logic, were laid down by makiveli and even before him... collect sunza art of war, such processes will continue, but if you pay attention to some specifics of the negotiations taking place, what kind of friendship can we talk about if china

immediately made a declaration in response to country, i would say, well, quite in the spirit of the us president, biden’s statement immediately after the end that zizn ping is a dictator, at least he has respect for the head of state, absolutely... regardless of the size and international weight of a given state, by chance this phrase didn’t come out of biden’s mouth, given that the man is elderly and suffers from what some say is dementia, well, i wouldn’t say that something like that could come out just like that, for the reason that let’s take a little look at the position he occupies biden relatively, this is the current president, a woman in taiwan, who recently made a trip to the usa, already this year, 2023, and how she was received there, let’s remember anse pilos, her scandalous visit, the former speaker, accordingly, so to speak, of the american,

already, so to speak, the american legislative body, her sensational trip to taiwan, contrary to the so-called policy of duality, again a completely official term, embiguity stripes, to take the english term, which suggests that the united states recognizes only one thing. people's republic of china, but has some of its own relations with taiwan , some of its own relations, which are based, you agree , on the visit of the top officials of the state to the territory declaring their dissidence, that is, a dissident course, at least a country for the united states, by the way, logic absolutely international, because since 2018, several countries have severed relations with taiwan, after taking a course towards intransigence, it was not for nothing that i said that the tsai ing-wen take such a course and travel to the usa, albeit on a private visit, but still a person representing his democratic progressive party, so she and her

democratic progressive party want confrontation with mainland china, but the countries of the international community absolutely do not want this, because somewhere around 7-8 countries have severed relations, only 13 countries remain that recognize taiwan in fact, these are independent units, look, here we are, please excuse me for interrupting, but we are really seeing now that long-standing conflicts that have been smoldering for a long time for a long time, there is the middle east, ukraine, nagorno-karabakh, for some reason they are starting in our time, this is not untying knots, this is cutting knots, and we see that taiwan is a long-standing issue and after this meeting, as you say, everyone remained to his own opinion, whether to wait for it to come, or whether it could come to the war for taiwan so far, it could advance. situation? dmitry, in my opinion, again, you need to look at the exact data, because there are different ones, i have colleagues, some with all the fury of the red guard attacks on

capital makes forecasts, but forecasts are always made, in my opinion, on the principle that war is a continuation of solving economic issues by other means, an extreme expression of relations between states, when we cannot agree, whereas, as they say, we are at war, and if only we are not talking about some ... messianic projects, well, maybe we’ll talk about this below , so let’s look at the possible prerequisites for such a conflict, as we were taught in the soviet, let’s say, constructive school, that is, we need to analyze all in integrity, totality, if you take the us debt to china, this is an insane debt, it is second in a row after japan, most of the us money is in foreign, i emphasize foreign... dollars, let me remind you, trillions come after billions, yes, and they go to china

owe about 860 billion dollars, the second largest debt , if you remember exactly, it’s 859.4, but japan naturally cannot object, it is occupied, japan has no right to say anything to the united states at all, because on japanese territory, by the way , as across the territory of georgia in the united states has the right to move even without reporting anything, without notifying, or rather in a notified manner, so to speak, informing the authorities of the country about this, that is, the state, so to speak, the president there. parliament, japan is occupied, and china is naturally sovereign, so consider that the first foreign sovereign debt is the us debt to china, why should china kill its own debtor, well, of course , china can hardly cope with the usa, it is unlikely to fulfill its tasks, but no less, why should he even enter into hostile relations with him ? relations, this is completely based on the force majeure principle, forceful circumstances, canceling debt obligations will at least freeze them for decades , this is not necessary in china, ukraine is closer to us, here

bloomberg writes: zelsky is afraid of a new maidan being prepared in ukraine, well, it’s predictable everything, as always, is to blame for everything and for causing chaos, i take quotes in this case, i quote, in ukrainian society, russia, although we see that lately there has been continuous criticism around zelsky, and it comes from everywhere, in kiev they are urgently looking for a successor, they are calling either ermak or zaluzhny, everything looks as if zelsky is being quickly dumped, in your opinion. drain it? in my opinion, they are merging, for the reason that zelsky, firstly, is such an ugly duckling, a derivative of two logics at once, how did such a crooked child come about, western imperialism, excuse me, i have a poster stamp, but for the reason that he , come on, i ’m trying, as always, to speak with facts , and i’m also succeeding, and his convoy, which for some reason is called security, consists of officers, well there

for some clarification, this is actually a set of a normal special forces soldier, believe me, i am still a member of the highest council, the federation and power structures of russia, kremlin 9, and i myself am a special forces veteran, a gray beret of the third degree, and so the usual set of such a security guard includes including the wire, besides, in a second, everything is possible, you know, in this regard, as far as security is concerned. to what extent this is a convoy is a very big question, the westerners include it, not ours, well, well, we, i won’t say what we include, because it military tami, now - based on less colorful, but no less important details , i note that when zelensky was flying, i continue to give facts, for a meeting - in the american parliament, when the parliament was still accepting him, this is a previous visit, not the last, and the penultimate visit, he flew on an american... plane, i know what kind

of fuss there was around the sofa, remembering the ostrugatsky classic, or the behind-the-scenes fuss so that he would fly on an american plane, as a rule, he travels on british planes, according to according to some information, our operatives, he has a british passport, he is a british subject, just like that, again, remembering non-registered authors, writers, so to speak , a turkish subject, and so this same british subject, just like that, on this occasion, zelsky is not suits the usa. in no way, moreover, he went another fact, that is, things do not depend on my consciousness, a year ago, in pure years, in december last year , the head of the cro burns flew to kiev in order to convince zelsky, seize negotiations with russians, due to the fact that zerensky did not want to follow the instructions given to him in abstract form from sulivan, the us national security advisor, in september

last year he made ardent russophobic statements, the americans were not happy with this, not because they are such doves of peace , because the americans currently control 80% of the territory of ukraine, even more than 80 , to be honest, and they like it, that is , they don’t need to do anything else, that’s enough for them, the arrival of david cameron in kiev, right away after the appointment of the head of the british foreign ministry, this is just an indicator once again who is the main curator for ukraine, so this needs to be understood? that’s right, these words are literally being taken from my lips, this is exactly what i wanted to say , i completely agree with you, but because in the noble anglo-saxon family there is now this sort of quiet fuss or fight going on, for money, this is quite understandable, for possibility, i will remind you that i mentioned to the committee of 300 that the british royal family together with the dutch, both of which are part of

part of 300 ruling families of the world, but today they bought mineral deposits located on the territory of the lugansk people's republic, which is part of the russian federation and adjacent territories, by any means it is necessary to achieve the goal, it’s for money, it’s a monetary issue, money, that’s very sacred for them, god forgive me, and in parallel they have already invested so much, about 20 billion dollars have been invested, let’s say even the unfortunate netherlands have invested about 2 billion euros, that is, somewhere... about 3 billion dollars, this is a small country, although one of the most militant, regarding what is happening in ukraine, and now we need results, but zelsky doesn’t give any results, why don’t they? he continues the conflict and wants to continue it, is it clear why? as soon as the conflict is over, i will half, forgive me, i won’t give a broken penny, for zelsky’s life, if he is the president, then the president of the junta, so he is the president of the junta of one war, that is, as soon as hostilities end, he will become a very inconvenient figure for everyone, he is not negotiable, there are few

moreover, it is clear that the kremlin will not talk to him in any way, after what happened, with whom it will be, i don’t know how interesting it is that the kremlin talked to someone, most likely the westerners do not strive for this, they it’s interesting to build a strong army, because the previous army is almost all used up. in the middle east, then , the most discussed event now is israel, of course, the palestinian question and the hell that, well, there’s no other way to call it, the hell that was created in the gas sector. of course, we understood that it had been smoldering for decades, but why now? flared up with such force? and, you know, dmitry, here, i would say, i will probably give a nuanced answer, he. to relate to civilizational facts, concepts that are important in my opinion, firstly, the foundation of the conflict was laid at the balfour conference named after lord balfour, because then at the same time they made a promise to two different peoples to form two states on the same territory, we

know about this, these are the so-called legal or diplomacy is a legal absurdity, i speak as a freelance betrayer of diplomatic academy of the russian ministry of foreign affairs, so... therefore, of course, this is a deliberately planted mine, placed under the entire structure of the middle east, again by the british, because they then acted as guarantors of the implementation of this decision, and then they simply took it and left, from the point of view of palestine , now we’ll talk about cruelty separately, i just have to tell you some things, probably, and the palestinian and jewish peoples at the time of the formation of their state used, i would say , informal logic, informal logic consisted in the capture... of airplanes, this personally or yasser arafat personally did this himself in the taking of hostages, including soviet diplomats in 1982, then , by the way, a soviet diplomat was killed, his head was sawed off, after which our group vimpil carried out force action, destroyed palestinian terrorists, we rarely

remember this, i, as a member of the k9 council, always remember that people died there and vimpil was able, in principle, to save soviet diplomats. jews also carried out military operations terrorist attacks also related with various, i would say, quick actions happened before the formation of the state or the moment of formation, so there is no need to be surprised here, both nations or peoples, by the way, are close by blood, and that other people is a simis group, and in fact they are relatives, they have the general logic of thinking, conducting military... actions. in my opinion, this explains a lot. based on military logic, moving on to military action, i believe that firstly, the one who pushed israel into conflict 100% professed not at all the interests of the state of israel.