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families settled in these passages, and some of these tombs took the form of a pyramid. utsešestvuytse together with tv channels belarus 24. good evening, we are airing a weekly socio-political talk show in essence , we are talking about the most current topics, today the focus of our attention is military-patriotic education, why this particular prefix has become very popular, what patriotism is, let's think together today our guests, but i remind you that you can also become a participant in our program, there is a qr code at the bottom of the screen, please go

to the youtube broadcast, leave your comments and questions there, we will definitely try to answer, well, in the right corner there is a link to our telegram body - channel, join us to find out what is happening behind the scenes of our talk show, in the studio kiril kazakov and alena sirova, hello, good evening, well , before we start, i would like to tell two stories from my life, my television life, and more somewhere in the beginning, maybe even the 2000s, i was an employee of the beltiokpaniya television news agency, i did a story about one of the military-patriotic camps, then the zornitsa competition was held, after this story, shown in the panorama program, i had to unsubscribe to the united nations organization, the case the fact that it turns out that children on television with rifles is such a militarization of our younger generation, completely ... unusual, as

they told me in civilized countries, so it’s absolutely not worth talking about it, that is well, as if we were violating certain conventions of the united nations, so in principle, i actually remember such a bureaucratic reply, well, we had to do it, the second story is that when i, for example, talk about the fact that after 2020 the anthem, becomes an integral part, for example, of the beginning of school lessons, right? very often it sounds to me, well, what are you doing, drill people, you should almost all march there in formation, what is he doing, while at the same time i’m watching polish, for example, telegram channels, what’s up children in military uniform are doing shooting lessons there, throwing a grenade, in fact , attacking a conventional enemy, which most often for some reason are belarusians, and i think, you know, we have such an interesting...

trend, a country that most often declares peace, is engaged in educating our growing children, precisely through certain military regulations , right or wrong, as it seems to me right, because even, for example, in the russian empire, you remember, military education was better, sash, tell me please, here - brsm is always a certain uniform, a certain symbolism, even student groups, you know, such certain jackets with stripes, it’s still a reference to some kind of militarization, there is some logic in this, or we always see symbols now, okay, we live here and we understand that this is normal, here they are, who escaped and are now telling us that the country is being turned into such a military, i don’t know, commandant’s office or garrison. kiril, why are you listening to escaped

citizens who betrayed their country? first second, fighting, student brigades, this is an element, attributes that we got from komsomo this year, important dates were 105 years, strictly speaking, in the komsomol, 60 years of student brigades, but for every young person, this is not just a badge, this is not just a piece of metal, this is part of the time that he spent in the company of like-minded people, he worked, a certain work semester, this is a work project where he gave part of himself and received from this project, of course, it seems to me, a plan for schoolchildren, here on your screen savers are just the guys, the participants, on that screen you can see our project zornitsa, this is a project of the belarusian republican pioneer organization, and 2 years ago we, together with the ministry of education, resumed the eaglet, a very important

military-patriotic movement, without help from the ministry of defense, of course, this would be impossible, and there, on the sites of military units, the guys become imbued with, communicating with military personnel, at this stage they are already in the seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth grade, from them , in fact, successors are formed, but how without a uniform, without the most important element without heraldry, all this has a deep meaning, you can instill this very patriotism, i will explain, but let’s be so frank that about the work of the brsm, yes, well, about five years ago, it was still heard so loudly there wasn’t, but lately they just rushed forward very strongly, right everywhere, everywhere, you can hear it everywhere, it seems to me that a bunch of civilians with faces in uniform gave the same result that we were going for, for a long time time and couldn’t find it, but it’s clear that all this

happened after those most difficult events, when we realized that somewhere we did not pay enough attention to this, in connection with this , at some point, when our military, when our security forces began to organize patriotic clubs, well, such a tangible history, yes, we began to see that there really is a demand, guys come, what they are taught, how they are taught, because for a long time it was all vague, so it turns out that for a long time before we simply did not have this , or there was no need, why alexander vladimoroch, i probably have the following question for you: why, within the framework of schools, within the framework of kindergartens, for example, educational... institutions of others, among civilians there was not such a formalized structure, a formalized form, excuse the typologies, recently we remembered again, okay, so, well, regarding this issue, what can we say, it’s probably not entirely correct for colleagues to say that this didn’t

happen at all, yes, uh, our items haven’t disappeared anywhere, many say, they removed it from the list for military training, no, it’s necessary it is called the draft and has been functioning for many, many years in sovereign belarus, there are teachers, yes, they existed, and the eaglet was revived, zornichka, together with the belarusian republican pioneer organization, the ministry of defense, we regularly held these events, all educational institutions in the qualifying stages , starting from school, we took part, but it is clear that a new round appeared with the introduction of a head of military-patriotic education into the educational institution, but i want to tell you, even when we the ministry of defense worked it out. but nevertheless, we already see that this practice is already beginning to be restored somewhat; these , say, heads of military-patriotic

education, along with deputy heads of educational work, in educational institutions, are doing colossal work specifically on military-patriotic education. gymnasium within the framework of the school of an active citizen, who is the moderator, no longer a history teacher, but a man in uniform, a colonel, here is the question, military-patriotic, what is more, military or patriotic? balance, you see, is also needed here, in terms of making it interesting for the largest possible category of children, you are talking about clubs, i agree, but there are mandatory attributes of, let’s say... so physical training, yes, that is, mandatory attributes of inclinations for what -some moments, yes, but there are those who are interested in history and local history, but less in this direction, so there must be a balance here so that it is enough as broadly as possible, but there is also such a moment that after all, a man in uniform is a military man, but they will believe and he

it will be 100% more authoritative , it will be much easier to captivate someone with something than, for example, the same wonderful, talented history teacher, for example, there at school. i agree, you probably remember the nineties very well, when the military, excuse the expression, a very large number of people did not give a damn, the profession of an officer - it was, lord, where are you going, they don’t pay money there, almost everything is in ruins, there hazing, now it suddenly turns out that the officers seem to be starting to pull out our entire ideology, why, because, let’s say, this whole the history of soviet political officers, it is least susceptible to liberal corrosion, or, as opponents say, this is all being done in order to increase recruitment, they say, from the first grade we will accustom people to shoulder straps and in the eleventh grade they will all go to serve. answering your question, in the introductory part, at the beginning of the program, you very clearly

said about unsubscribing to the un, in fact, this work on patriotic education, it didn’t start today or yesterday, it was going on, we just talked less. about this because they looked more at the west, what they would tell us about this and made a big mistake, so... he also said that we are the country that talks about peace most of all, but at the same time, here we are with military-patriotic education, you know, there is such an eastern wisdom that, uh, a teacher asks his own, or rather, a student asks a teacher, they ask, he says, teacher, you are teaching me to fight, at the same time you are always talking about peace, how can you try on these two things, what the teacher answers his student that it is better to be... warriors in the garden than

gardeners will end up in war, and this is what our commander-in-chief constantly talks about, if you want peace, prepare for war, because security, it exists because it is provided, today our people, well, we have already talked more than once about that the twentieth year probably should have happened, today our people, after the twentieth year , have a demand for patriotism, and what our fugitives from the west say, for me the formula is one and simple, if they say, don’t do that, that means we need to do this, intensify work in this direction, if they they praise, it means we need to stop and think, we’re doing something wrong, yeah, 100%, well , here we are, in fact, here i am, they are, again, i don’t want to talk about the context, but i have to. answer in order to understand what is going on there, because when , for example, they start talking about the fact that yes

, some armed groups will enter here, yes, saboteurs will work here, because i understand that they are fueling some kind of part of our society, and i understand perfectly well that this part of society must somehow be ready, we have repeatedly asked the question here: when you talk about war, on the one hand you seem to be preparing a person for this, on the other hand you begin to induce panic, isn’t it? there is some kind of balance here, that is, look, when you come to school, people in uniform, you come to college, people in uniform, military-patriotic clubs, people in uniform, so we are preparing or inducing panic, in general you need to understand, that military-patriotic education is only part of patriotic education, our country has adopted a patriotic program education of the population, not only children, of course , the lion's share of it is allocated, the emphasis is on... education of youth, but the population program, and i want to note

one more detail, is that kiril said that we, in general, -we pay a lot of attention to the issues of military-patriotic education, because today our people have realized, firstly, their indivisibility with the state, if earlier people... had more of my personal and separate state, then today this is noticeable, this is clearly visible, people do not divide security into personal and state, people understand that there simply cannot be any personal security without state security, there will be no security in the country, there will be no personal security, oleg alexandrovich, well, here’s a question for you, how long have you been working in your position, well, the position of a military leader

-patriotic, of course, from the twenty-first year, but a teacher before conscription training from 2003, everything in the same place in the same place, has some kind of approach changed before 2020, as we really like to conduct rubicon some before 2020 and after 2020 has changed dramatically, the game has changed, and it has changed dramatically, it has become in demand, i’ll just give an example, even in the military. which we have, if we say, before we had to recruit a class , quite a few problems arose, this year we were recruiting the eighth grade, the very class is recruited simply by getting documents, we started recruiting for this class on june 1, 8:00, 8:45, class was formed in 45 minutes, that is, it’s good, but what do the guys say who come, they probably have some kind of motive, some kind of initiative, why are we, here why do we need this, yes, suddenly everyone suddenly wanted to be military to one degree or another, again, here i am saying why

they are going, probably every boy in his youth chooses... a hero he wants to be like , probably, after all, people in uniform inspire confidence in young people, that’s why they come, and girls, and girls, the most interesting thing is that if, let’s say, even 5 years ago military-patriotic girls were a rarity, today it’s almost 50/50, i i would like to say that the girls are in our club in the minsk region and in the city of minsk itself, the first... cool, what’s the most interesting, why, well, we’ll continue to look, alexandrovna loves the sky, and airplanes immensely, so they would have told her at the age of 14 that there is such club, at the airbase, of course, where would you go , well, one of the options, by the way, today there is a competition among girls to enter the military academy,

this year for some specialties there were 45-50 people per place. among girls, and then you will be accused of what you are trying to do to israel, that there are girls there almost all of us are trying to serve, let’s go back to your air base, since we’ve already touched on this topic, well, a lot of military-patriotic clubs have appeared lately, you can even say there’s some kind of socialist competition between military units than is your particular club different, yes, what’s wrong, i don’t know, what are the specifics? well, firstly, here we can say that the very first military-patriotic club in the minsk region was created here, a little over a year ago, the specifics are very interesting, firstly, airbase and we instill, well, as everyone says here, patriotism, and this is said loudly

, we make it clear, understand how to make a choice, when the child comes, joins our club, this is the fourth, fifth grade, from fourth to eleventh , i’ll say this, our guys in sokol go to five educational institutions in the minsk region , we have a sokol club, we don’t have the specifics because of age, we’ll look at it, change the charter of sokol, you’ll go, join the belarusian republican youth union, you’ll go there as a counselor, it is in our interests to prepare the guys, give... military basics, our air base, we are still interested in having already trained guys come to us and make their choice for flying specialties or those related to aviation, and now we will race, well, we won’t consider, but we are already considering the issue, a little bit

a program that has been approved by two ministries, we are finalizing it a little, because we have certain ones, as we can say, these are the mi8, mi24 and il-76 simulators, and we are now writing the program together with the military department, the aviation military faculty, and we give the children theoretical knowledge, they pass tests, they pass tests, then we will, well , that is, here there is more of a career guidance work and you recruit from the youngest school age, no, i want to say, i also have... in minsk more than twenty institutions formations in the oktyabrsky district of the city of minsk, everyone also comes to career guidance, we also hold open days and camps , we have classes and the guys come to us with great pleasure to study, some of these guys, i want

to say this year, well, thanks to our preparation, well, i didn’t enter the military academy, my choice was to go to the academy of the ministry of internal affairs, i’m happy for them and am ready to continue working with him, that’s what concerns the ministry of internal affairs, sergei aleksandrovich, well , let’s put it this way, the lynx became famous because it was one of the first, if not the first, i won’t say anything here, i don’t presume to say, because in fact i understand perfectly well that it was 2 years ago, plus on saturday you had another patriotic camp at the 54:48 base on mayakovsky street for 2 years, unfortunately, i didn’t get there. yes, uh, but, uh, here i am simply - he lived for a year, because the child was practicing at the trot, and i asked him, what, what are you doing, what can you do, well, how would he still... 'know how to disassemble and assemble a kalashnikov assault rifle for extremely little time, he knows how to do, for example, cardiac massage, he understands what orienteering in the forest is like, that is, he has acquired certain

competencies for himself, which i hope will help him in the future, but strictly speaking, i understand that initially the idea was completely different, that is, maybe i’ll be wrong now, today, in truth, to some extent, gather the guys to interest them in what society wants, because computer clubs , really sitting idle on tiktok, somewhere else, it is unlikely to develop when there is discipline, that’s why, in fact, they say that military education is better, because where there is discipline, this is actually that success, when, well, pretentiously, a man becomes a man, maybe i’m wrong? not absolutely right, i absolutely support your idea, first of all, i would like to thank you, i would like to thank you for what you you organize and conduct such programs. i agree that there is a demand in society today for patriotism, and lynx was really the first, these are the guys, officers who worked independently with children, uh,

expressed such an initiative, nikolai nikolaevich, our commander of the troops took this initiative firmly , the ministry of education supported, little by little this work started, and it went very well, 2 years flew by, we didn’t even notice, but the children know how they have changed, here we are trotting for 2 years sent off, granite for 2 years, now everything... we are celebrating our second anniversary, these are not at all the same children who were 2 years ago, i’ll clarify along the way, exactly what we are talking about, that guys yours took it, nikolai nikolaevich supported it, because well, we’re omitting it here , because we began to feel that somewhere before citizenship had not been worked out, it turns out that who, if not us, yes, who, if not us, is it, if there is trust people have in uniform, which means people in uniform should do this work. this history, look, in august 2020, on this side there were belarusians, on this side on that side, and i understand perfectly well that those who stand, they were not always ideological people,

many were fooled, some came to the street from idleness, someone went out into the street because someone called, they read these telegram channels, in the end i perfectly understand the meaning of these, these, these, to take under your wing, well, that’s right, that’s right, re-educate, that's right. well, not just re-educate, but show an example that there is another life, there is uh, an opportunity to study in a completely different way and look forward, well, it turns out that over time this initial idea has been transformed, that is, now it is more than just a club in which guys, clubs, i take all our military-patriotic, more than - then, a place where guys come to communicate with authoritative senior comrades, there to learn some basic basics, parents, it seems to me, already expect from military people, from security forces, well , some kind of comprehensive care and development

according to in different directions, look, it’s already here there is such career guidance going on, on saturday, nikolai nikolaevich karpynkov, your commander, he just said that we will now teach the guys how to use drones, this is a profession, yes, that is, we look at what is happening in ukraine and see that this the war of drones, well, strictly speaking, is this already about the approach or is it again just a charade just to distract them from the street? this is a professional approach, because any profession must be learned, and not everyone can become an unmanned aerial vehicle operator, but those who can, they can to continue their service, including in the internal troops or in some other law enforcement agencies, they are selected and distributed to children, but alexander vladimirovich, look, we are now talking about the fact that these are military-patriotic clubs, but not rumors

, talk about whether graduates of these clubs have certain preferences upon admission, because well, again, if you are interested, then you probably need some goodies, there are some goodies, in terms of what you are talking about, initially at the time of preparation draft decree the head of state, support for the military... patriotic clubs on the basis of military units, the moment was worked out for this to be a career guidance topic from the point of view of admission, but since age, what was already mentioned today is quite young, let ’s say, then look forward on the topic of higher education was probably pointless, from the point of view of the future trajectory, we have identified cadet schools and a specialized lyceum, which have been identified and created for them... a ready trajectory for students of these clubs, well, provided that they didn’t take a year, but mastered the program, which was developed jointly with the law enforcement agencies , the ministry of education, that is, if he receives

a recommendation from the club, if he mastered the program, then he has a preferential trajectory, school, and from there, stupid questions from the audience , the program is how long, well, we know that basic education is 9 years, higher education is four years, then there is a master’s degree, there are at least some outlines here, well, that’s how long i should study in the same club, i’m talking now , we are now we’re not talking about patriotic education, that’s important, i can. people always, well, sort of reason, including from a mercantile point of view, okay, he’ll go to my club, i ’d like him to go to the club, but what will i get, no, i’ll tell you, i’ll get it, i already outlined, that is, there is a preferential path to a cadet school, after which you can also follow a preferential path if you studied well, but not in the first place, but there is a program, initially we determined exactly the terms, and it’s impossible to write a program, because that this is additional education, whatever one may say, we must comply with regulations.

base, yes, this is a two-year program, which was prescribed in the conditions, this is the implementation of this two-year program on the basis of a military unit club, according to age, yes, but i would like to talk a little now, after all, a little about something else, we are talking about a club - this is good, well, so you just understand the order of the numbers, 52 clubs, 2,800 children, well, about three, the number there is constantly growing, today we are talking about a little more than a million schoolchildren in the whole country, well, because you need to understand that we have accented clubs there, they are not for everyone... there is no need to idealize this form, kumaniya, large ones, in large cities, i understand that clubs, they are in trends, but small ones, for example, are populated points, i understand that it’s possible that it’s even impossible to gather a club based on the number of people, if these clubs were originally conceived, as well as career guidance history, yes, then it’s not worth replacing the concept, because if we now bring it all together. exclusively to

military education, then the question will arise: if i don’t want to be a military man, then, well, why should i go to these clubs, but our security forces, in general, also give some other correct points, this very ideology, which probably it’s very difficult to teach without contacting the children every day, but if we simply say head-on, we must love our homeland, we must love our homeland, what will we get? leonda viktorovich, well, this trust in our people in uniform doesn’t matter, we won’t get away from this, it still outweighs the trust in individuals civilians, this is not a burden for you, in general, as an assistant minister for ideological work, i will tell you honestly that i personally and the military department as a whole, when organizing this work, we do not set ourselves the main goal - this is career guidance, because

what is important to us today is, uh, a person, because the main goal of military-patriotic education is to instill in a citizen awareness and personal involvement in the defense of the fatherland, and the defense of the fatherland is not only defense with weapons in hand, a teacher, a diplomat, even a cook, not less important than a military person, 100%, and the fact that society trusts people in uniform , well, probably, society simply understands that in general the army, the law enforcement agencies, are the anchor of the state that will never allow any forces, be it internal, be it external, to collapse the state, and people today understand this, they saw

the twentieth year. they saw what could become of our country at that time, they see today those people who fled abroad and say their ideology is the ideology of war, today they openly declare from there poland, from lithuania, that their ideology is the ideology of war, people understand, the ideology of the belarusians is the ideology of peace, not war. but you are satisfied with how, in principle , the work of those same military leaders is now organized, well, during this time , you communicate with colleagues, of course, i’ll be honest, in principle , all the organizational issues have been resolved , let’s say, in the first year there was a little problem, let’s say, when it was not allowed to combine the position of the head of military-patriotic education with the teaching load, but literally

i say, in january of this year the decision ... was made, so, let’s say, if a person really wants it, he can work calmly, receive a normal decent salary, but what are you doing here anyway? the amount of work is probably, let's say, simply colossal, first of all, if you look, the first thing we probably need to start with is probably, first of all, the information direction, if you look at the flow of information that is pouring out on the guys today, it is not what it is is many times higher than what we received at the time, respectively, it’s quite difficult for the guys to understand this flow of information, so the first thing is to simply explain what’s happening in the country, why it’s happening: the country, what we ’re doing, the next point, let’s say, the direction, again, this is military-historical, if not let's touch on our roots, well, probably, a true patriot will never grow up, believe me, once the guys come, we

have about 16 memorable places in baranovichi, which are probably in all of belarus, which are connected with the history of the great patriotic war, when they see what happened here on, say, this earth, they understand, they begin to perceive... what is happening differently, but make sure that they listen to you, because bring your child in general, or bring him for a lesson, you can easily, like this, so that he perceives, so that he hears, and he just has to trust himself, if he believes you, as a rule, he will listen to you and follow you if you yourself, say, are your own by personal example, you show your attitude towards everything that happened, believe me, they in the same way, i say, this... is perceived very well, we still have a problem , probably, of our generation, we have always got used to the fact that there was not and is a peaceful sky above us, here touching or even the history of the great patriotic war,

the guys begin to understand that it could be different, here it is, here i am saying , there is a conscious desire to stand up for their family, to save this heaven on earth so that it is clean and peaceful, i want to agree with alekgen aleksanovich , but probably not only... domestic, what a special military operation is taking place nearby, as you rightly say, young people are immersed in gadgets and this is a war live. and they just have this question: what if god forbid, what can i do? and now to the question of what, what kind of problems there could be, this is precisely one of the areas of interaction between the belarusian republican youth union and the ministry of internal affairs, because we have youth law enforcement detachments, just in baranovichi, one of the best detachments, almas , who turned 20, celebrated last week, guys. on a systematic basis... they already have experience, and of course, in the end, having a reference for graduating from school, any secretary, head of an institution, this is mandatory

before we take a break for advertising, this is a question for you, but from the point of view of a manager happy with how the military leaders have settled in, you know, these are the kind of people who would do their jobs... no, i ’m very pleased to hear that there are no problems, you know, because, for example, when i communicate with colleagues, i often hear, that there are problems, we solve them by marching, if you can put it this way, this is just a question, the fact that a lot of them combined, teaching the subject before conscription training, they needed to build it so that it was in a single cycle, it’s okay to be confused by our related issues with other colleagues, technical support their activities, this is a cyclogram of work so that there is an understanding of what you were asking a question about, and if at the beginning i tell you, it was an instructional and methodological letter that contained several, well, not several, 12 pages from memory, if not i’m mistaken, but today, by september 1, we released military-patriotic education edited by candidates of sciences, developers

at the national institute of education, who prescribed in this educational manual the entire cycle, starting with theory, ending with specific practical exercises for this category, i’m sure , that we are in touch, but the most important thing is that we try to quickly decide, at the level of acceptance , the result is obvious, the result is obvious, than i said by example, that not just a person appeared who has experience, but also who as would infect with his example, a very important link in military-patriotic education has appeared in the system of general educational work of the school, that is, if today we are talking in general about the patriotic program. this is one of the directions, then for this direction to the educational institution there is a specific person who carries it out, not for all types of the rest, if we analyze patriotism, we have this position, that is, there is some criterion that measures

the more patriotic, less patriotic, and you are not, well, you know, as it would probably not be they would not have given a single prize if it were possible to measure such things as patriotism, we have talked about this more than once, yes, but i am sure that it will work. which is carried out by these people, and we emphasized from the beginning that these will be those who have served, definitely have experience of service, that ’s behind them, they will lead by example and sincerely... with them our younger generation to their mother, to a woman, this is essentially, let's continue the conversation about military-patriotic and simply patriotic education. viktorich, look, here i am i listened to the first part and, as it were, also analyzed the preparation, so i’m thinking, maybe, after all, we are like... this is a military

club movement to what existed in our country, maybe this is not so, after all, we have cadet classes, we have the suvorov school, we have the institute of the ministry of emergency situations, we have a military academy , we have lyceum students, we have classes that are classes of the ministry of emergency situations, yes, there are history classes, but we are creating a club movement on the basis of military units, internal units troops, it seems to be developing in parallel. and here we are there is a figure, yes, that is, there are so few of them, compared to those schoolchildren who generally go to school, well, there are several tens of thousands of children who go to these clubs, maybe we should have activated that system, which we have, starting from the same cadets, ending with suvorov students and lyceum students, well , the fact is that i already said today at this program, i said that there is no need

to make a panacea out of military-patriotic clubs, this is just one of forms of patriotic education, and you are absolutely correct say that all those forms that we had before, they are also used today , receive some kind of new breath, new in their development, because programs are being improved, methods and forms of teaching are being improved. clubs, yes, this is just, well, a small , so to speak, part, it is actively developing today, this form has, uh, demand in society, but this does not mean that this is the only form, well, you yourself said that in if something happens , a cook, a teacher, and a doctor will equally be able to defend their homeland, that is, they have a role in maintaining peace on earth there is, that is, in theory it can be assumed that.

in almost every profession, in fact, you can organize a similar movement, based on the interests of a child , i don’t know, a medical-patriotic club, a pedagogical patriotic club, well , that is , you really shouldn’t rely only on the military, in theory there is such a thing, in theory patriotic education is a form, it is professional patriotic education, so you, alena, are absolutely correct, here is sergei alexandrovich. the same thing when they train guys in units internal troops, they are not all future soldiers of the internal troops and police officers, you know, i would like, of course, to have the majority of them, and by the way, the majority of them are, here are 64% of last year’s graduates, they all went to military universities, moreover, they went there consciously, of course, they will not all become military, but most importantly, we know that we raised a good person, we raised this person with the right outlook on life, he understands what a country is, what a homeland is. that it must be protected, because battles are won by

the army loses, and the soldiers win, the people win, and these people must be educated, they themselves come and say, what if, just like you said in the first part of the program, but i can, and i can, and they can, they already can, they will teach the rest and pull their classmates along with them, maria, i have a question for you, but here they talk a lot about how the military instills one aspect, the military in schools instills another aspect, so don’t you compete with your association? don’t you think that the work is to some extent parallel? no, you know, probably not here we compete, rather, we work together, because we have a historical-patriotic public association , which is aimed at studying military history, so military-patriotic clubs, they complement, this is the military history of what period, we are only talking about the great patriotic war, exactly no, as for belarus, that’s right, yes, of course, we are only looking at the republic of belarus, the past, but we are not only talking about the great patriotic war, we are also

talking about the periods of the first world war, it is considered a forgotten war, but nevertheless, it is very interesting for children and schoolchildren to learn, well, this is very important, exactly what we were talking about, the periods that our opponents grabbed for themselves, they themselves told the youth in one form or another, how they should be perceived, you gave your interpretation, it turned out that in this way now , including you and alexei, are forced... to correct the situation, yes, there is something in this, because, if we take the first world war, here in the territory our country, she was 3 years old, stood at the front, everyone knows this, and the heroic past of our people, our compatriots. there were a lot of heroes then and patriotism was very strong, plus the transition to revolution, then the soviet-polish war, our people were divided into two parts, we also need to talk about this and tell it as it was, without distorting history, what is trying now to do it from the outside, to completely distort our history, to tell about the year thirty-nine, why this happened,

to tell about the beginning of the great patriotic war, how it went, this is very interesting, it seems to us that they don’t want to know anything, this is not true, children, i’m from... children - you understand, these are people who don’t like falsehood, yeah, and they feel, they feel this falsehood when you tell them, since it happened when they really get into it, then they are completely yours, they will listen , learn, alexey, yes, please tell me, now many people say that history is a panacea for the present, because now no matter where you look, any patriot, he should know history, whatever you say, it turns out like this, the thing is that it seems that all of our patriotism is built on knowledge of history and on shoulder straps, no, here, in principle, shoulder straps are organized , historians give knowledge, no, kiril, you are right in some ways, but not historians, for example, i am not a historian, i know history, historical science, yes, but curiosity, but i really want to explain

, yes, someone is trying to say that history is a panacea, but how can it be otherwise, a person or people don’t know their history, they don’t has a future, if we don’t know this story, what kind of history it was, then how did that a person who is a patriot, whom we want to raise or a citizen, how can he draw an analogy, how can he really understand what is bad and what is good, how to defend his homeland, because all patriotism, be it ordinary patriotism, military patriotism, is the goal is to educate someone, a citizen, a defender of his homeland, correctly, a citizen who loves his, but why go to the excavations with you, why probe there... if you can read an extract from wikipedia, which has already been rewritten five times and compose have an idea, buy a t-shirt and so on and you understand, you understand, well, how is it so, you understand, as they say, the war continues until the last soldier is buried, they still think that they know history, you know, that is, in their own way

at a basic level, guys come to you mostly on their own or are brought by their parents, i understand that there are some gaps in some questions, most likely the children come on their own, when... an example - it all started with lessons in courage, if so talk public association, beginning work on the lessons of courage, we came to schools , the cities of minsk, not only minsk, and an audience of children gathered, we began to communicate with them, a dialogue platform, of course, in the form of the great patriotic war or the first world war, we tell, show, and we see how children reach out, then after our classes, they find us , they come to us, and this suggests that history is needed in, well, how to put it correctly, it needs to be told, we need to promote history, look, alexey, we actually to what do we mean, our opponents were still there about 15 years ago, they packaged history in a beautiful wrapper, they rarely thought about what they were selling, someone specifically put a falsehood in place of the real one, but they wrapped it

in a beautiful one wrapper, it seems to me that the emergence of military-patriotic clubs is our beautiful wrapper, the club is fashionable. 2 years after its appearance, this is prestigious , it’s not in vain that i say that children think about where they will go, because this is a kind of pragmatism, so maybe we there is not enough wrapper for this story to the end, no, probably not the wrapper, but the correct, correct presentation of this story, maybe, maybe this is the wrapper, maybe you are right, maybe it is this wrapper that is missing, khatyn is now kobrinskoe strengthening is something that has become, as it were, a part of which the brs. the last few years - it’s not just advertising, not just telling , it’s really restoring how beautiful it is, i apologize for this word in this program, how beautiful it is to sell, because well, you understand that when everyone is shouting about

rodevils, i have nothing against rodevils, but there is a certain marketing legend that beautifully sells the legend , the castle, in general this whole story about the polish part, it beautifully disappears when we start talking about the great patriotic war, about history, as you say so that they get inspired, but now the world is like this, the world of tiktok, they get inspired in 14 seconds , how to sell it competently, when guys go to a military-patriotic club, there is a certain atmosphere, discipline, certain rules and context, and when it is outside club, this it’s already sometimes the work of the belarusian republican youth union, how to sell it competently, well, here we need to return to the first part of the program, we talked about the fact that the guys get to know the serviceman through visual perception, uniform, personal, what kind of person he is, a representative of which law enforcement department, in addition , that within the framework of a military-patriotic club or ... military-patriotic games, or these are youth security detachments, we equip him with certain knowledge, it is very important

to equip a young person with a sense of the need to defend the country, in this case, why do these mechanisms work effectively, maybe not at full capacity, obviously there is potential, because the young man , having worked there, left part of his work, he will never allow it to be destroyed, planting alleys of different generations, gardens of hope, other projects, because this is also a contribution to your native land, when someone, god forbid, comes to you with a boot, you will never in your life allow him this boot with a boot, so it seems to me that it’s just ours, not just a wrapper, our idea , can be based on instilling in children, creating how there are more opportunities to do something with your own hands, i agree, not even globally, when someone comes with a boot, we are already getting pathetic here. they started and even elementary, even elementary, when the guys came there for cleanup days and come to cleanup days and

plant trees there themselves, then he will never go to that tree, he won’t kick it there and he won’t break off a branch, it can also be applied to any other aspects aspects, respectively , remember, there was a period when parents there were indignant that our children were like slaves, there leaves to rake these or benches there. steal and so on and so forth, the president often returns to this , he says, force them to do as much as possible with their own hands, and now you don’t hear me , write this in parental chats, you’ll hear everything , the whole program, but i don’t say, defending the homeland is already an extreme measure, when the moment comes , i’m saying that we probably forget about that aspect of patriotism when, with our work, with our knowledge, we must prevent the moment at all when we have to defend our homeland, when economically there

the country may find itself in a position where, excuse me, we will have to speak a different language, either ideologically or historically, it is absolutely certain that we can rely on the military, they can cope with their idea, that’s how to deal with civilian ideology, alexander vladimirovich, well how to instill this, because now i really agree. viktorovich that it all comes down to the fact that military-patriotic clubs are really a panacea, which means you sent your child there, 100% he will be a patriot, and if he then goes to serve in the army or becomes an employee of the ministry of internal affairs, then he will be, everything will be fine in his life, but we have a lot of other professions, all people, officers, nobles, they have always been ahead, well, here you are, the elite of the state has always was a military man, it was 500 years ago and 100 years ago, we talked here behind the scenes. that the military and officers were an elite, including because of their upbringing, because of the correct guidelines that their teachers gave them, it’s absolutely

true in matters, now let’s move from the specific to the general, yes, about the numbers, we are clearly with you understand that my colleagues and i, everyone, need patriotism in general, and for our children, in general, they en masse attend educational institutions and, accordingly, additional education. these are circles for a simple association of interest, as it is prescribed in regulations, they can attend at will, and everyone can attend or not attend, yes, but everyone must attend lessons, so the most important thing that is often forgotten is some tried to distort it, saying that the lesson gives only performs one function, the function of teaching, we now we are clearly returning with everyone, this year in particular the calendar year we determine that the key goal of any lesson, starting with any discipline, is chemistry, biology, mathematics, physics, then we say the humanities

block, it goes without saying that this is an educational function, we lay it down - in retraining courses for current teachers , training courses for students who will still learn that profession, this is not right away either, you can’t just click it at once, and just switch and return to what is on over the course of, for example, in the soviet union, it took decades to build up, so, uh, i’ll go back to what collapsed, albeit within a year, well, this is about history, which you need to know and admit to learn from mistakes, so we returned to such a means as a textbook, in when re-editing, it is necessary to ensure that every task, every task, carries a patriotic ideological meaning, only in this way can we say that every schoolchild, coming to class, will actually become involved in this, you understand, in general, the mathematical problem included some kind of ideological performance, which is also good,

of the anthem and the carrying of the flag at the event. which is also good and necessary, and this is constant daily lesson activity, this is definitely socially useful work , volunteer activity, which is fashionable now and sells well, but 100%, even when i recently heard the idea that in the soviet union everything these trips to pick potatoes there or planting flowers in a flower bed near the school were - not that because of, it later became a fashionable word teambuilding, so they were thus teambuilding. and by inoculating oneself with the ability to handle one or another tool to develop oneself, which is what the teachers say, in agricultural work after that the leader in the course was immediately determined, who was involved, yes, who can be relied on, who can organize the youth, absolutely correctly, and have you ever thought about the aspect that, for example, your students of military-patriotic clubs, they sometimes

raise their parents, but it wasn’t... well, because a lot of guys, for example, walk, come, talk, and you know what happened, a you know what you saw, and you know how it will be, with us, well, it’s clear that the parents of these guys, in the twenties, they also sometimes hung out in the wrong place, this aspect can be traced in you or how you didn’t think about this is what parents say there, they are already teaching their parents, here is the last, two-year anniversary of granite, when it was, there were not instructors teaching children, but rather their parents, they conducted classes with them, unfortunately, we are also faced with what children want come to the club and parents are not allowed in, this is the worst thing when children strive, but the parents don’t allow it, because they have different views, but our child is dear, beautiful, ready to work, he understands what the country is, but the parents don’t allow it, unfortunately, we are faced with such a negative side, this communicates with such parents, trying to convince them, of course,

trying to convince them, and some, unfortunately , even run away abroad. because that’s how they don’t perceive what we do, if this happens, in the same place, as i said at the beginning, they don’t do it there, they just shoot at others, and these others are us, kiri, here you can argue that you were talking about wrappers for history, in my opinion, any wrappers for history are already a distortion of history, our opponents in the early nineties made these wrappers for history and we almost... this is already a distortion , and our president says that we must always tell the truth, no matter how harsh this truth is, without any wrappers, that’s not what i meant, look, everyone there is carrying, for example , t-shirts with some princes, but not wear t-shirts with heroes of the soviet union, that's how it is

fight, i’m just talking about this, or look, again i’ll give an example. i’m not talking about the soviet union, it doesn’t matter, whatever, but these , these things you want to be worn, and how proud they are, i’m just talking about this wrapper, not at all about distortion, look, the russian army released such merch , yes, which they seem to be proud of, this is a normal story, there is nothing wrong with this, it ’s just a modern approach, i’m not talking now only about the soviet union, and not only and not only about the soviet union, if we are now we are faced with the fact that some people like one historical period, others like another historical period, there is always modernity, in this modernity there are also heroes and there are also outstanding figures, there are also outstanding writers, poets, chemists, physicists, that is, well, heroes there really are a lot of us, some new symbols, brsm, please, i also came up with ribbons, bracelets, that is, this merch, which is popular, the merch of the first one flew in, it is clear that the head of state,

his authority and quotes that know adult children, but this showed that... that the request was colossal, remember in 1414 the russians had one , putin was practically everywhere, and somehow we were a little late with this, why didn’t the brsm initiate it earlier? there was such a proposal, just in many ways, here is the appearance of merch, well, i know for sure, because i saw the documents, i know it has found application, but not probably, not very timely, but somewhere you just need to show more persistence for now show just to expand, follow the heroes of belarus. we are at a very important stage next year, the eightieth anniversary of the liberation of our country, a working group has already been created and we know that, including together with the federation of trade unions, we will have a similar project for the alley of heroes in small towns , including, which is aimed at popularizing precisely those heroes who liberated, defended a specific couple of words, this topic is raised, if i think we have all

the theory present in the know, we have advice on historical politics. which from those periods, you call them birthplaces, is that’s right, this is what is now unfolding, unfolding, it is shown that the entire population did not at all, did not ride on bears through the salt, walked in bast shoes next to these roads, but, well, so this is an ambitious task worth defining, i think , kiril, a t-shirt with your grandfather’s talash would suit you very well, for example, but there are no questions with david gorodensky and others, but kirillarovsky is fine, alesanovich, well, the question is already called at the end of the program, well, it’s called from our viewers, tell me , here in private schools there is a similar story: patriotic education, hands-on, that’s how simple it is, i already understood the question, well, from that small number of private educational institutions, and we have them with the same

requirements, well, that is, those that have passed licensing in our country, today function every day, so i was in these institutions, there is the head of military-patriotic education, there the guys at the event are carrying out the national flag, it sounds, that is, those who cried that private schools were being closed, we so wanted to teach our children, so that they are taught only mathematics, russian, no ideology anywhere, we have a single, we have uniform requirements, including in educational matters for any educational institution, and no matter at what level, from kindergarten to postgraduate, well, i would be surprised military -a patriotic club, for example, of some nato country in our country, territory, this is surprising, yes, because this does not happen, you need to know the face, but with us, just of course. of course, in any case there are certain requirements, but the audience is interested, well, in conclusion program today, literally there, while we were preparing for the broadcast , the head of state signed a decree that next year we

will absolutely definitely be a year of quality, it is on this note that i want to end today’s program, we had excellent guests who do their job well, our military do their job well. and even more, in addition to protecting the state, they are also involved in education, so i suggest to those who do not wear shoulder straps in their place, but at the same time, are not indifferent to the future of our country, for sure carry out not only your professional duties with the same quality, but also social ones. if you are a parent, then communicate with your children, find out what they think, how they understand this world, well, if you are a son, daughter and , in general, devoted to your people of the fatherland, also communicate with your parents, friends and talk about important things, about our country, about our future.