detachments and also there was a check and many were not even many, there were some such cases that they ended up not just in a partisan detachment, but partisans, well, let’s say, an nkvd unit, that is, where they served, in fact, security officers, professionals, intelligence officers , uh, and tested in battle, they proved themselves, received awards and returned to peaceful life, felt good, nevertheless, the special services continued to work and even after 30-40 years they still found these, of course , even take the most notorious example of tonka a machine gunner and a woman and a woman, an executioner who has been sought for more than 30 years. in the forties, belarus suffered like no other country in europe, an occupied country in europe, we had the largest number of concentration camps, we had the most...

number of settlements burned, civilians killed , and we still don’t know the final numbers today, that’s all, we still have to find out, we still have to carry out a lot of scientific research work. elena, one of your films in the series was released on the eightieth anniversary of the khatyn tragedy, let’s let's look at a small fragment. the khatyn tragedy, we are breaking the sealing wax from archival documents, for so many years we... 80 years ago, eyewitnesses of the bloody events, they were driven away, they screamed very much, very loudly, there was such a cry that i... i remember today

, the people who were looking for, arresting and interrogating the polochians of khatyn, the purpose of our trip was to apprehend the basyura and deliver him, let’s name those who burned and shot 149 people, set fire to the barn, the threshing floor, where the inhabitants of the village of khoteni were, the translator of the battalion is lukovich , opposite the doors there was a mounted machine gun, behind which lay a kotryuk, when people started running out and shooting at those running out. the eightieth anniversary of the tragedy, a documentary film from a series without a statute of limitations, they burned huts. len , well, even in the film there is a phrase that there are no more blank spots, many films have been made, but you

have made some discoveries for yourself, i don’t even know, well , you can’t say interesting facts, maybe some unique facts, well, even in this fragment, which was shown, the grandmother, who says that the scream was heard, at the moment tragedy, it was a girl who lived in a neighboring village, literally half a kilometer away, this is a direct witness to those events. she went to school with children from khatyn, she sat at the same desk with them , so one and a half kilometers, that is, zarevo was visible in her village, bullets flew there, that is, to find such a person is, of course, journalistic luck, and mm, i i want to say thank you to the people who helped us in creating films, the same local historians, and the same historians who pointed out - to such people and said that there is also such a grandmother, she

already there for 87 years, but sometimes they changed their plans and went to record these people, because we know that today they exist, and tomorrow something terrible could happen, they will no longer be there, who else but them can tell us what they we saw it with our own eyes, but what’s unique is that the person who led the investigation, the person who arrested the criminal, is still alive. ukrainian police battalion, which consisted of several hundred people, including a ukrainian company from the derlivanger battalion, the most brutal punitive units of nazi germany, participants in derlewanger were arrested back in the sixty-second year. and they were tried, there were

several trials, including one that took place in minsk, then for the first time they started talking about the fact that ukrainians burned khotyn. by the way, let’s look at one more fragment from this. joseph kaminsky, the only adult who managed to escape from a burning barn, said that the executioners of khatyn were ukrainians during interrogation back in sixty-one, but ukraine was one of fifteen fraternal allies republics, a neighbor, a close country , a slavic sister, so the first secretaries of the central committee of belarus and ukraine decided not to push the situation, for a long time we did not open our archives and we did not give these materials, that is, the information was closed, today there are no blind spots, well, we didn’t want to offend, we lived as one family, now belarusians, belarus continues to help ukrainians, according to

the state border committee, since february 24 , 2022, more than 100,000 citizens of ukraine have arrived in belarus, we accept ukrainians, we help them. with employment, with housing, but part of ukrainian society not only does not worry about us, but they generally make statements that they are ready to kill us, so you have, maybe you ever wondered how the west managed to set up against belarus, against russia, so develop this russophobia, in a fairly short time, 30 years, it seems to me that in ukraine, especially in western ukraine, these trends were observed back in soviet times, and yet... even before all military of these events, if you visited western ukraine, in including that lev, yes, they called the soviet period nothing other than the soviet occupation, and if we take even that 118th police, ukrainian battalion that

burned khatyn, the lion’s share of the participants in this military unit came from western ukraine, chernovidskaya region , as a rule, and after all... they are not only against russians, belarusians, we remember donbass, the fourteenth year, when ukrainians killed ukrainians, when people were burned alive in odessa, may 2, 14, then the west was silent, and now it is silent, now it is silent, the soviet army, which liberated the same europe, poland, hungary, czechoslovakia, in european countries is being demolished first of all, working out some kind of ideological policy, trying to manipulate public opinion

, rewriting historical facts, the events of the second world war, and they are doing everything possible so that in the west the soviet... union as a victorious country sounds quieter and quieter , they talk about it less and less, the victorious countries, great britain, america, come to the fore, and the soviet union, oh lately, they have been talking less and less about the country that essentially defeated nazism, which lost a huge number, there are tens of millions of people, belarus has lost every third inhabitant , the neighbors continue to build a monument to apathy and, the worst thing is that even in the canon mournful date, june 22 in the lviv region , which you already mentioned, three monuments to soviet soldiers were demolished at once, here is one of them, and a couple of days before that the monument to yuri gagarin was demolished, well, because it is a soviet cosmonaut, that’s how she commented on it

official representative of mit russia, maria zakharova, bust of the first cosmonaut gagarin, i’m just wondering, he’s just now, from the point of view of the kiev regime, not the first cosmonaut, or the first... not a cosmonaut, or not gagarin, or what happened to him, for so many years the monument stood, everything was fine, the question is, what happened? moreover, it is absurd that they are from soviet scientists who were born on the territory of present-day ukraine, regardless of what these soviet scientists called themselves, what they were recorded in their own documents, how they felt, in accordance with the cultural... code is also attributed to ukraine , recorded as ukrainians. well, as a matter of fact, as far as i remember , at least no one refuted this, there was information that now korolev, the inventor korolev, is also ukrainian, it turns out, i have a question then,

if korolev is ukrainian, then why is he in in all senses of creation, why then do you demolish gagarin’s monument to him, this is some kind of absurdity, well, you still need some kind of there is logic here, but there is no logic, and there is no logic if in ukraine they demolish monuments to the same gogol as... who was considered a national genius among them, right? that is, the same poland, because poland, during the great patriotic war, the territory of poland included several of the largest death camps, auschwitz, striblinka, sabibor, nazi units killed thousands of polish residents, poles. well , what is poland doing now, it is demolishing monuments to soviet soldiers who liberated them from nazism, liberated them from

the brown plague, in general, what is happening, the world becomes , turns upside down, absurd, absurd, at the same time, yes, ukraine demolished the monument to gagarin, demolished monuments to other figures and liberating soldiers, and at the same time they erect monuments to bandera, bandera’s birthday, the holiday of ukraine, the man who destroyed, including ukrainians, and babi yar, let ’s not forget, tens of thousands of jews and not only were destroyed there, the same bender had a hand in this, the same 118th policeman, the ukrainian battalion, also participated there, then they were sent from kiev transferred to belarus, supposedly the official version for the fight against partisans, but we all know how they fought with the partisans, destroying the civilian population of children, when i looked at the criminal... cases, the same vasyura, at the time of the crime

he already had a small daughter, his daughter was born before the war, and that is, he was already a father who must have had some kind of parental feelings, he just watched his children burn, that is, i don’t understand this, when we were working on this film, we were recording in grodno investigator who led these criminal cases, and he told how they arrested lakusta, he lived in donetsk, he was a miner, well, he was in good standing ... at work and his daughter, who was studying at the institute at that time, headed some kind of organization there komsomol, when she found out, she wanted to throw herself out of the window, they barely restrained her, this girl, that is, for her it was a shock, and i understand, because she grew up in ignorance, for her dad was the dearest, closest, the most beloved person, she will know this truth, for sure dad said that he fought, defended his homeland and performed heroic deeds, of course. of course , or the same kotriuk, they call him the last

executioner of khateni, who died, in my opinion, in 2015, if i’m not mistaken, in canada and repeatedly, and the soviet union also submitted requests for his extradition, then independent belarus, canada did not extradite him, then he also financed, well, invested funds, one of the philanthropists, let’s say, and the monument to the ukrainian nazis in chernivtsi, that is, he was also made an honorary citizen of chernivtsi, and when i also read the interrogation protocols of the participants in this 118th police battalion, one of them says that our territory belonged to hungary until the forties, and then became ukraine, when the nazis came, these nationalist ukrainian organizations began to recruit us into the so-called kurens , there was a bukovina kuren, there was another idea. that they would not participate in any military operations, they would not, they were not given weapons, and then they

were already, well, i don’t know if the word “fought” is appropriate here, but nevertheless, they were oriented, that they would carry out some kind of action, or fight for the independence of ukraine, and then they were transferred to the kuren, they also participated in the killings at babim yar, and then belarus. lena , well, it’s really impossible to listen without tears to the stories that... you ’re telling us now, that you broadcast in your films, let’s think about it all in a pause, while you can subscribe to our telegram channel, that’s what it’s called, don’t be silent, invite us to guests, ask your questions, we are in touch, let's go on a journey in which we will learn more about the national identity of belarus. our products were earth workers and this

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damage, double standards, outright, vile hypocrisy, about. they were born in different parts of the world, i came from syria to belarus to study, i studied to be a tv director at the academy of arts, my first year here was vtu, russian, and everyone found something for themselves here. so now in my plans i want to do an internship in belarus and after that i will start working as a doctor . this is the time when i studied at the academy of arts and we tried a lot of things in different directions in the arts, i worked with a lot of people, directors and musicians, because they wanted to know more, each hero has his own unique story, his own

view of belarus, in the east , accordingly, usually a man, so i wanted to study ... because it was a prestigious profession and very profitable, i was immediately impressed by the university, the level was immediately felt, the level was much higher. belarus is one word for me, but very important, perhaps i can realize my idea, which is related to try, watch on tv channel belarus 24. on the air again, say don’t be silent, and today our guest is a special correspondent of the tv news agency, winner of a special presidential prize , elena bormotova. elena, you shot the first film in the series, which is a long time ago, about the azarichi concentration camp. let us remind viewers of history that

the nazis put up 50,000 elderly people, women and children as human shields in front of the advancing units of the red army. the minsk army was also helped by the people we talked about above, after all, do you have an explanation why these people agreed serve the fascists? besides the fact that they were saving their lives, i don’t find any other explanation, that is, everyone wanted to survive in these conditions, how this happened, because no one cared, because when we made a film based on derlivanger, there was one such episode, which shocked me at all, i couldn’t understand how it was when a person... who went to serve the nazis, served with derlewanger, participated in punitive actions, because in one punitive action, his mother died, and he still participated, that is, if he was given an order to shoot people, it doesn’t matter who was there, his godfather, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, he went, carried out the order, that is, well, when

your mother is killed, yes, he is in parallel, that is, he is in the wrong the village participated, but he was at the same time. he destroyed a few kilometers away to another village, that is, he collaborated with those who killed his mother, he essentially served in the same battalion, yes, he served with them in the same battalion, i don’t know, they pressed each other there when they met hands or how it happened, but nevertheless, he communicated with the murderers of his matter, that’s what it is, it’s some kind of, i don’t know, something bestial in a person, although in this case i don’t even want to offend animals, i don’t know what it is, well, a sense of self-preservation, but other people, they refused, even when there was a threat to their lives, they were shot, they were shot by people who ended up in hundreds of thousands in prisoner of war camps. the so-called stalags, dulages, there, ah , the germans recruited some, some cooperated with the germans, some continued...