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information and analytical project with a current microphone on air on the belarusian radio tv channel belarus 24, with you the presenter andrei sych, as well as our guests, political commentator alexei volkov and social and political figure pyotr shabko. good afternoon, good. we discuss the most pressing issues that concern each of us, discussed in the kitchens of belarusians on international geopolitical arena. alexander lukashenko's visit to china caused quite a wide discussion in the information space, everyone started it, including russian and western publications.
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the western press is discussing that this is a rather unusual situation, because a number of western politicians cannot even agree on a meeting with xidinping for almost a year there, almost macron, we have seen, repeatedly asked for a visit to china, all this finds quite great difficulties taking into account the coordination of schedules, the agenda of the meeting and so on, and here quite quickly in my opinion, i don’t know whether this meeting was planned or not, but now it came true, let’s say, it caused a wide resonance, alexey, what is the reason, well , it seems to me that this is what you said about macron, andrey, he’s asking for a visit to beijing, well, it doesn’t work out for him, probably he’s just not interesting, and i can also say that for many it was a surprise, because the president was at the climate summit in dubai and then we watch the news feeds, what else in china has flown, but i can say this for us in my opinion it’s gratifying, because it’s great when
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our great friend sidin pin really accepted, not in words, but in deeds, here you go, besides, the negotiations there lasted, in my opinion , twice as long as planned, more than 3 hours, leaders... discussed some kind of joint agenda, that is, this is great, because our country has very good, warm relations, we will speak openly with the currently most developing, most economically powerful country, with economically powerful potential, but i would also like to note , of course, this really amused us me and my colleagues, when they started writing, i don’t know how they do it, our, let’s say, information opponents, when they started writing that... lukashenko went to beijing, which means belarus is returning to the ukrainian game, the opening of a second front, i i still don’t understand cause-and-effect relationships, but i think you also saw that this topic is being discussed very much, why sidin pin, i don’t know, but nevertheless they made a fuss,
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because again they like to talk about what about the balts, the poles, what about belarus? isolation, russia is in isolation, well guys, we just went to talk with the leader... of a country that has, what, about one and a half billion people, again, the largest economy, a very serious military force, very serious scientific potential, well, how -that doesn’t really look like isolation, in my opinion, in a good way, china can isolate itself and not remain isolated with such a large population, technology is the world away from itself, i would yes, it would be quite an interesting situation, peter, i saw that you visited china, literally not so long ago, what places actually did you manage to visit with whom? chat, what is the result of this trip? and yes, i was literally 3 days from china, spent 2 weeks there, this was my first trip in my life, well, i will say, of course, the information is still being digested, everything has not yet settled in my head, in general, i went for work, so uh
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, i didn’t have time to delve more or less into the essence of what was happening in china, but solely due to my kind of socio-political activity, of course, whenever possible i tried to collect as much information as possible from ordinary people, those with whom i happened to meet, who, where there was no language barrier, i tried to collect maximum information, in general, regarding this issue of lukashenko’s trip to china, i can say the following my thoughts that the first is our geostrategic location on the continent, the second is the close political model of statehood that we have, and the third is the personal established contacts of the belarusian side and the chinese government, that is, at one time president lukashenko
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set a strategic goal to establish relations with china, then many of us perceived this as something dangerous. step and so on, there were many dangers, suspicions , fears associated with the expansion of china, and human expansion, into our market, but time passed, it shows that the decision was made correctly, correctly, although it cannot be said that any expansion there wasn’t, that is, well, peter, regarding expansion, it seems to me that this is already such a period a little later, namely fears on the part of citizens, maybe international... society, i still remember those moments when they tried to laugh at the fact that with whom you are trying to build bilateral relations with china, with this poor country, the hint remained, well, you see, here the question is, let's say, on an intellectual level opponents and worldview
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, that is, if napoleon already foresaw 200 years ago, yes, that when china wakes up, the whole world will tremble, then yes, i remember these disputes there 20 years ago with my friends that china simply has dynamic growth and this is such world-class bomb, i remember the reaction of our people, generally educated and not stupid , well, at the level of laughter, that it was a backward country, and so on, yes, so i actually saw on this trip to china that the first thing is that apart from these three i have named, there is probably nothing, because i visited five cities. only one of these cities was smaller than our minsk, it was 1,600, it was a village of some population. all the other cities i have been to are not just cities larger than minsk, they are cities with a population larger than our country. and when in a conversation
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with the chinese, we are from belarus and where is it, that it is near russia, that means, and when you say that in our country they have such surprise on their faces, i say, in the capital there are 2 million, it seems to me , such surprise arises in them , in general, no matter who they talk to , representatives of any country, probably , well, they hear russia, uh, the military campaign, of course, is discussed in ukraine, at least by those people, ordinary people, with whom i had a chance to talk, i could not extract any information from them domestic political topics are so silent, but as for foreign policy, their preference is clear, that is, they are on the side of russia, they don’t like america, i asked why? this means that this is an aggressor state that robs the whole world, that is, they have this concept
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at the level of a sense of justice: america is bad because it gravitates everyone, that is , in this sense we are also very similar, in fact, yes, we have this plan, i noticed that if we take, at least politically, the context and actions of our government, and ordinary civil views there, they are very similar , so in fact there is quite a lot in common, although of course, but at the same time, issues of justice unite us all today, and in a global sense, this is not only belarus, china, this issue is a question of justice, such a concept and justice, of course, it is nuanced everywhere some have their own shades in different nations, but this is what i think will become such a fundamental idea in the world in the near future, that is, not just the destruction of a unipolar world, but... with a specific goal, with the goal, well, not only some kind of restoration of order
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, in order for justice to prevail, that is, the world that was created after the collapse of the soviet union and the collapse, established its hegemony over the entire globe, it is unfair, and if it is unfair, then it is some kind of evil, and therefore, well, for people , both there and here, for those who are sort of dealing with this issue, with such political views, that is , political interests, these people, in principle, will probably have priority the idea of ​​justice comes out, such global, as for the chinese in general , i haven’t noticed any kind of politics in them, that is, they don’t delve into it much, after all , it’s really a separate civilization, they have their own life there, there’s a lot, a lot of things, everything is seething, everything is boiling , so they are more busy, of course, with their own affairs , they earn money, it seems to me, but everything that concerns some foreign policy
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issues, their reaction is also immediately responsive, i think that here the belarusians will support that justice it should rest on a thick pillow security and under your mattress, in fact, like the chinese, so i want to say that the chinese feel their strength, that is, now they are confident in themselves, they are confident in their country, i am interested in watching germany today, we have already touched on the topic of that , that the world is diverging: along the poles towards justice and some other certain values, and in this sense it would be worth discussing such a budget crisis in germany, which at the moment is not receiving large resources, so we see that scholz has removed this very brake, oh which they are enough they argued for a long time whether it was necessary or not, so that the state could take out a loan to meet its, strictly speaking , financial needs, i don’t remember the amount now, but even until the end of this year there is no finance in the budget... it was enough, i had to take out an additional loan in order to close the holes, there is no
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understanding of what the budget of the twenty-fourth year will look like, because huge sums are not being received there either. alexey, what do you think this whole problem is connected with? well, there is a shortage, as far as i remember, there will be 17 billion euros, the amount is simply colossal, and i will say in relation to germany and its economy, such a word, a phrase, which i probably did not think about five years ago, that what i will say about germany, i feel sorry for it, because it is very clear there is a feeling that they are just screwing up the economy, that is, a lot , i don’t know, i think, every day, almost every day the number is increasing, but about 100 enterprises have already been exported to america , they are closing down, here is a company that produces tires, a french one is closing down a third of its production, that is, the economy germany is now under a very strong blow, i have a feeling that... the next five years, and it will suffer very much, it will be, it
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will be a colossal drop in gdp, not even 2-3%, it is possible that there will be 8-9 per year, that for the german economy, which amounts to trillions of euros, gdp, it is very deadly, we see that very angry people, i have german friends, they are very annoyed by this open door policy, and that migrants come from all over countries, they come to receive benefits, there they have this the harts 4 program, adopted back in the early 2000s, and there is a lot of golose, you don’t have to be a citizen to receive this unemployment benefit. and these migrants , they don’t dissolve in german society , like there, let’s say, our people leave, yes, they are somehow there after 5 years, maybe the problem with migrants is connected, among other things, with the fact that the official government is not involved in integration these people into society, scholz, from the outside looks like an absolutely dependent, spineless politician, over whom even
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they laugh at this already famous video, where he said that we will not abandon people in trouble, parliamentarians are simply sitting over him in the bundestag, that is, that’s all, this is a political corpse, and he was elected, i apologize, 2 years ago, that is, how if only he could live and live, i don’t know how often he receives calls from washington, but one gets the feeling based on the information agenda that this is a person who, as if on purpose and systematically, his task is to finish off the german economy, because he green party, who, in general , are in the ruling coalition with the social democrats, after this speech that you are talking about in the bundestag, another politician just came out and indicated that scholz is a german plumber who literally puts out some kind of fires, outbreaks that appear in the economy, but does nothing to prevent these outbreaks from appearing again, in this sense , even the situation is interesting in that the well-being of the entire european union,
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after all, was based on german industrial power, and after we see, what is all this is bending, slowly but surely, here we also need to make... a big amendment for our listeners and viewers, that what we are saying is not in the short term, not today, tomorrow, this is a systematic process, which, this a trend that is leading to the fact that the germans are, well, eating through their reserves , collected over the years, the middle class is gradually going bankrupt, in this sense, here’s peter, i’m interested in your opinion, how the situation with the unity of the european union, which was based on german money, will develop, i’m in general, on the whole...' i agree with everything that it has just been said that my vision of what is happening now with the european union is the same thing that happened in the eighties, with the ussr, that is, in the soviet union there was simply a certain group at the top, the face of which was gorbachev, which carried out various kinds of reforms and actions in
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order for what happened to happen in the european union, this is a whole group - that is, various prime ministers, presidents, who are now commonly called the soros, yes, that is, practically everywhere there is a trace of certain organizations, the same the soros foundation, or rather extensive networks, built by him with the help, as far as i understand, of the central renegade administration of the united states, that is, this is something like what they say about the soviet union, that this is a kind of betrayal of the elites, but this is not just a betrayal, that's their job. that is, they were set up for this, this is an artificial process of the collapse of a powerful economic formation, which should lead to the strengthening of the united states of america ultimately and the destabilization of the situation on our continent as a whole, if we will look at the main events that are now taking place on the map, they are taking place precisely on the continent of eurasia, that is, these events
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, to put it mildly, are alarming, that is, wars and disorder, this is what is bringing us, while we can still call it a dying hegemon hegemon, and he won’t just give up, i’ll interrupt literally for a second, i just found information, by the way, since you touched on the topic, this year there is quite a noticeable re-industrialization of the united states, a record level of spending on industrial construction in america, they reached 206 billion annually, yes , please note, the political rhetoric of the current us government was the opposite, that is, it was trump’s idea of ​​​​renewing the industrial power of the united states of america, it was this idea that the democrats opposed, it was under the democrats that now it has begun to be realized at the expense of the european union, or rather at its expense, let’s say, while
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oppression is still beginning to disintegrate. the beginning of this process of collapse, but corporations have already begun to flow over, that is, a transfer is underway, as already it sounded like quite a few large factories , enterprises from the european continent to the united states of america, and the industry itself, they also began to restore, began to develop, a smart move, well planned and perfectly implemented, don’t people in europe understand this, that this is not the first time, when this european nest is burning. the american halo is spreading its wings, but this already seems so primitive to me, primitive things that even we are talking about here, but they lie on the surface, in europe they understand this, in political science there are... two such categorical opinions, well , if we take the extremes, the first opinion is that, well , in history probably too, the first opinion is that all such processes of this kind are
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natural, and they are preceded, which means certain factors, which contribute to their manifestation, the second, the second opinion says that all these processes are regulated, they are controllable and they are purposefully created, that is, if... the question is that the truth is somewhere in the middle, then it is possible to form, formulate this idea so that they are purposefully created prerequisites, which then themselves begin to control history, and so the preconditions are created when nothing is seen and nothing is felt, that is, certain people are brought to power on a wave of some positive things: changes, positive reforms, beautiful slogans, a beautifully constructed picture in the media and so on and so on and so on, these companies are preceded
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by long-term work to promote various quote-unquote democratic values, liberal norms, various equality, gender, some other, some other, everything it is woven into a scientific or pseudoscientific... braid, presented very beautifully and can be carried out into society for decades before it begins to fully show its askal, that is, the reality that stands behind these beautiful pictures, so what they have now europeans, this didn’t happen 2-3 years ago, during some of their parliamentary elections, some other presidential elections, this happened 20-30 years ago, in fact, seriously speaking, this happened after the collapse of the soviet union, this world was, this process, after , after the soviet union collapsed, the alternative system ceased to exist, and the only question became
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how now, well, look, if i may, i’ll add, just again, when we say that the european economy , the industry of europe is now suffering from disasters, well, we are talking about the german economy in a good way, yes, and germany has a green party, which is called the green union 90 party, in addition, that is. to the words that since the nineties it has been a party that is actively promotes the green agenda, and who in every possible way organizes parties with young people , actively runs social networks, the head of the ministry annalena berbokogo, she is green, they demand from the largest automakers, there volkswagen, mercedes, to reduce production by a third, demands to increase the number of green areas in cities. that is, just take , relatively speaking, a piece of road that is used for logistics, for something else, and just turn it into a green zone, it sounds cool, well, who doesn’t like parks, yes, but
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the fact that this can harm the city’s economy, then no one thinks about this, what i like most about alexei in this sense is reading the news about how they are trying to disperse information in their information environment, about how the most important enemy of the environment is farting cows and cow burps, this is generally just the most it's scary what's possible. harm the environment, and for this it is necessary to urgently reduce the number of cattle, otherwise we are all even in switzerland, i remember on this topic, it was one of the plenary sessions, there was also some kind of environmental summit there, i don’t remember name, but they specifically discussed this, yes, that is, what is it to exterminate cattle , well, it is to create a shortage of meat, yes, that is , the price for it immediately increases, i will tell you more about it, colleagues, that is, the last veni is no longer the damage is not damage through the breathing of cows, but from people , that is, the topic has already begun to be discussed on the sly that it is people who breathe a lot, excuse me, fart a lot, they increase the air temperature, that
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is, on the one hand, this seems complete idiocy and nonsense, but on the other hand, we remember, before our eyes we saw how the way the information impact on the modern mind of the average person works, in general there is nothing surprising that there is... and not a small layer of the population that believes and believes all this nonsense absolutely unconditionally, without questioning it, it must be said that taking into account the fact that our president’s speech at the ecology summit was just heard, it was, of course, well, for me it was just a very enchantingly beautiful balm for the soul, and there was an interesting epithet that all this is being carried out through the goal of sustainable development. on in fact, i, as a person, due to my social activities, have been working there a lot lately, well, let’s say 7-8 years.
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with government bodies, i want to say that this is the goal we have in all departments and ministries, this is something like an icon hanging in the corner, you know, something that is not subject to doubt at all, a divine something, sustainable development goals in any ministry, in any department, as soon as you tell someone all this, it’s okay for him, no matter how you argue, in some world, on the contrary, i like it, i don’t i know whether you are critical of this or not , colleagues, for example, bins for separate waste collection appeared near the entrance, that is, there is quite a lot there, you and i are seriously considering the issue that trash cans appear near the entrance thanks to sustainable development goals, i think , that yes, including these means, we are not able to independently resolve such issues only through the tsur, which regulates not only ballot boxes, but regulates everything, including gender equality, these sexual deviations
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as norms, i have not heard about gender ones. there that’s it, well, you just, yes, you just read, and these are beautiful slogans in the titles, but as soon as you go deeper inside, i’ve actually been around for a long time, literally from the first year, when we had tsur in the country and how the information campaign began to promote it , i took up the question of what it is and came to the simple conclusion that the goal of sustainable development is the globalization of that same one world order, that is, it is bringing the whole... sphere under a single level of sameness, that is, the goal is being introduced into different countries, in different states with the help of their same state systems, but brings them all economically, politically, in everyday life, socially, under the same brush, that is, this is actually being implemented today through un structures.
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various non-type non-commercial including the soros foundation is very heavily financially involved in this, which means that the funds are simply being brought under a single world order , the legislation of all states, trash cans at the entrances, believes that the cia, cia sur just like that , until my wife sees, i will throwing everything into the same trash can, because it comes... yes, it comes to family scandals, in fact, i’ll be happy to study what peter said, but i once had the opportunity to speak at such a conference on goals of sustainable development, including there were un representatives who, one way or another, oversee these issues in all states, and i asked an absolutely, it seems to me, simple question, i say, gentlemen, please explain to me how we can achieve the goals of sustainable development, if you enter
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sanctions against us. tsur, it means quite highly intellectual products that need to be imported or sold in our country, as you contribute to this, well, it’s clear that we are ready, yes, we will get there somewhere, money in order to purchase display windows, solar power plants , there are some other things, so give access to technology, everyone is silent for some reason, this is because tsur in many ways looks very, well, decorative, like the un, in fact, we need these goals somehow comply pursuit. i don’t remember the numbers, but in belarus it’s good there, in my opinion, more than half, we have implemented these programs, while, i suppose i don’t know, in general in europe, in the usa, somehow on this, in general on this sur how- then they pay attention, this is such a beautiful showcase, a picture that needs to be sold to countries that they want to put on some kind of their own rails, relatively speaking, i agree, yes, with globalization, because in principle everything sounds beautiful there, but essentially , this is a training manual that guides you to
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a certain level. standard for a certain idea of ​​the world, they don’t take into account, let’s say, okay, belarus is a european country, but if we take some asia, middle asia, yes, there, i don’t know, tajikistan, azerbaijan, armenia, there are many of these sustainable development goals, they are simply not applicable there, they will not fit there, because there is a completely different culture, completely different people, and here is a big question for our western partners, as you say, are they pursuing the development of these sustainable development goals? on our territory, because we see that the same poland has reactivated a fairly large number of coal power plants , they are increasing coal production on their territory, but this clearly contradicts the goals of sustainable development and bringing this all to a greater global environmentalism, but let’s move in a slightly different direction, i’m interested in your opinion on how this is developing the situation on the polish-ukrainian border, because this blockade after these all kinds of hugs in the verkhovna
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rada of duda and zelensky, well, this is very helpful well continues our theme of european unity and our own shirt is closer to the body, when economic problems began, the poles, slovaks said no, first with grain, they said, we will not allow ukrainian grain through, now polish carriers, companies, truckers are blocking the ukrainians, there is only a medyka, medyka, i don’t know how to do it correctly, and the checkpoint, today there is a line of trucks for more than 70 km - there are hundreds of thousands of ukrainian trucks that are not allowed there, why, because ukrainian companies, truckers, they they dump prices, they reduce, naturally , but they were given the opportunity to travel without a special permit, why, because a conflict began in ukraine, that was it, how beautiful it sounded there, to show solidarity
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with the ukrainian people, well, now we are in practice we see that european solidarity is for, well, 2 years, it even turns out to be a little less, because in june of 22 they were allowed, that is, well , a year and a half, that’s how much... the strength of european solidarity, while officials in brussels demand from the poles unlock and give the possibility of free movement , but the poles say no , well, that is, here you go, a large european family that, when there were problems, could not come to an agreement with each other and, like primitive people, relatively speaking, they closed themselves off in their tribes, in their caves, in their apartments , poles are only interested in poles, they absolutely don’t care what’s in ukraine, what’s in slovakia, what ’s in hungary and everyone understands perfectly well, it’s simply impossible now to go out publicly about this , because it will destroy this illusion that we are there for so many 27 countries european union, we live together, we live amicably, everyone lives mainly thanks to the five main countries there and from them they are trying to get
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some kind of payments, some kind of help, something else, please, then a disaster happened, they all immediately closed , therefore, the european union, in my opinion, of course exists, but what is happening now shows that in fact, this, this, well, this is not a working association, not at all. peter, what do you think about this, how the situation will change, including, perhaps, on the front line with taking into account the fact that supplies , as i understand it, are blocked, both weapons and some kind of humanitarian aid, and maybe not even so much on the front line, how this will affect the humanitarian situation in the country, i have been taken off the agenda in the last 2 weeks, i don’t know what is happening with us was cut off from our information field. being in china, but based on what i just heard, i want to say my observations about the relationships in general, historical poland, ukraine, great russia and belarus, that is, if we consider
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russian people, dividing it into three components, then my opinion historically is simply studying historical materials, and at one time i was interested in this relationship with poland, then i would define the attitude of poland as a historically political formation as follows: to russia, that is, to great russia - this is hatred towards the belarusians, this is a kind of disgust, that is, a look down on the ukrainians like a slave - this is rage, a historical, internal conflict between ukraine and poland, it is very ... this is such a serious rift and split and the fact that happened 2 years ago, this did not happen because the political authorities of poland love ukraine very much and wanted to support it, it happened because in this way
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the opportunity opened up to harm those whom they hate, well, they hate because they are afraid, this is how it happened historically, but that internal, subconscious split that exists and will not go anywhere, it could not help but make itself felt, now the relationship between kiev and poland, in my opinion, we are seeing precisely those preconditions that were simply sleeping and waiting, were waiting for their opportunity to come out, perhaps this is just the beginning of what will happen, taking into account how many ukrainians are now on the territory of poland, and these people are also difficult. and many of them, uh, have already been to the war from the fronts, uh, as if with a certain mental structure that has already been quite disrupted , now it’s difficult to predict what, in connection with this , will happen inside poland in the next 5
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years, as for the relationship between russia and ukraine, how this will affect, well, i think, also if you look historically, then after all, a civil war - you know , this is how it is... nature is an intraspecies struggle, it is the most brutal, to hope that now there will be discord with poland, everything will crumble and the front will crumble and so on, well, you don’t have to do it for one simple reason . more, i’m not so much concerned about the front as the humanitarian component, in fact, how this will affect ordinary ukrainians due to the fact that there is no own production, and food products, which are currently supplied from the west, will be completed today in information and analytical project , a current microphone on air on the belarusian radio, tv channel belarus 24, i was with you, presenter andrei sych, also our guests pyotr shabko, social and political figure and political commentator, alexey volkov, goodbye, see you.
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people with whom you can get drunk. in my art, i tried not to be a naturalist and did not speak out on any philosophical topic, creating these works in my monumental world, i wanted to talk with people who would look on equal terms with themselves, people who love my right, when i decided to create paintings from coins, i liked it myself, i found myself... in what, uh, what i have been doing since childhood, this is art, this is
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creativity, this is drawing, i caught fire, i am burning and i want burn longer, look at the project about us, about the belarusians, on the tv channel belarus 24, latvian officials, the investigative committee of belarus opened a criminal case under the article of crimes against the safety of humanity, previously criminal cases were opened against their comrades from poland and lithuania, although these countries participated in, in order to disturb the peace in the countries of the middle east, they are in no hurry to let refugees in, maybe this is different? the confrontation between the west and russia, which began during the cold war, has received an unexpected continuation today. in their attempt not to be like the russians, representatives of the so -called civilized world have reached a new level. now it’s not enough for them that they have democracy, a counterbalance to slavic values,
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family and marriage, they came up with european ones, they demand compliance with new standards, in case of disobedience, removal of children, the west he has come to the point where he is destroying himself from the inside. the author's project of ksenia lebedeva is different. watch new episodes on the belarus 24 tv channel
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. on air news in the studio yulia pertsova, good evening, at the beginning, briefly about the main topics of the issue:

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