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what other areas of growth do you see in cooperation with china in general, what are the prospects? the prospects are huge due to the fact that the market is very large in china, the market is large, and for us, for our economy, i think it is even too large, so all the goods we produce can be successfully sold by us to the people's republic of china, we are also working on this , in order to use everything more effectively, but you already know, it’s gratifying to note that all negotiations, all projects go beyond the scope of selling the purchase of something, that is, we are moving the next level is the exchange of technologies, assistance in refining technologies, assistance in some research, assistance in developing new types of products, that is, we go a little further than sales, we are moving precisely...
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to the level of attracting investors to us, making investments - their funds for chinese territories, new technologies and new approaches in general to conducting any commercial activity, so i think this is gratifying to notice, and this is the main point of growth, which, again, will naturally lead to an increase in revenue from the export of everything else, well traditionally, as we noted in the first question in the previous question, this is... cooperation in the field of education, in the field of culture, in the field of tourism, here we are also, by the way, approaching, we study the mentality of the chinese tourist and determine what is more interesting to them and what approaches will be more comfortable for them when they come to rest or improve their health in our country, and for this we are already slightly changing our holiday homes, our recreation centers, our...
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you’ll never forget once and never forget, that’s all pa-sapraudnamu.
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belarusian doilitstva, which is important for your jumping and this time you need to learn and master. varying and hanging on the façade, we really respect here the sprung-looking columns with the completed karyn order, the history of the creation of significant cultural objects, it is terrible that the construction is wrong, the work is wrong, if you look inside the temple, the right side of the cascel on... chut-chut
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don't hesitate. dvarana is too weak to go to pallet processes, and there the said hetay of the town hall was pure nonsense. cultural-asvetnitskiy project.
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hello, you are watching the program “say don’t be silent”, in the studio of victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina. and today our guest is the premier of the bolshoi theater, people's artist of belarus anton kravchenko. hello anton. hello, good afternoon. so young and already popular. well, by pain standards, i’m already very old. of course, up to 40 years old, and we counted you 40 plus, 43, 43, but then how do you manage to stay on stage, still perform in premieres, be involved, gravity does not exist for you,
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exists, exists for everyone, in general ballet artists, especially the leading ones, they dance until they are 38, in the russian federation, retirement comes at 30, 15 years of service. but this is not the case here, we have many, i can name your colleagues, and igor artamonov still dances, and vezhnovets, and irochka iromkina danced for a long time after forty, yes, yes, yes, yes, this has something to do with it, and the fact that the pension was canceled, and this is due to the fact that we switched to a different pension system , for ballet dancers and everyone who previously had length of service, they now have...
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it was accepted with a delay of 10 years, in the nineteenth year it came into force, in 2009 you must have had 10 years of accumulated work, that is, half, at least half, then you still remained in that general pension system, and you discussed this issue with ekaterina nikolaevna dulova, of course, and how does she look at it? on this law, well, she also thinks that this is not very correct, well, we hope that we not only, not only with ekaterina nikolaevna, we discussed with the minister of culture with the minister of labor and social protection, and the ministry of finance even came out on this,
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and there was a discussion, but so far the issue has not been resolved, this applies not only to me, this also applies to other artists, and the dancers of the corps, if there are presenters, then it’s all theirs they know, everyone... sees, and that is, ordinary cardo ballet dancers who would also like to retire, they cannot, thank you very much for clarifying this point to me, because i kept thinking, what about them, i knew 35, yes, well, there is such a thing, yes, that it leaves early, ours keep dancing and dancing, i think, what great fellows, yes, if the leading artist also has more, more opportunities to go somewhere , then open some school of his own, precisely because he has a name, yes, then..
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.to art, parents don’t really want to send their children to college, there are very few in college, i can say that when i entered, we had boys - in each. there were 22 boys in the class, now admissions are coming, well, at best it’s six, and what kind of motivation did you have when you applied for early retirement, but no, well, that’s are we really children, children decide something, their parents gave it to them, yes, even this is fate, i studied in a regular school, i didn’t touch anyone, so some two women came to class, lined up the boys, jump there, well... they jumped , they chose three, they said come there, there will be a selection, i told my mother that i
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was chosen somewhere, but i won’t go there, the catching of boys was like that, let’s just see, we won’t even go into the building , we'll just see where it is, and i say, i feel like you're fooling me, so no, but in the end she talked me into it, we let's go, in the end she dragged me inside, and then they just grabbed me into the hall , threw me in, the commission is sitting there, they say, squat, jump, bend over, well, somehow i did everything like that, well, i left, then after this viewing they say, they took it away, i said, i don’t need to go there, i want to be a football player, i want to be a hockey player, and next to me stood a crying boy, who was not taken, wiping away his tears, looking at anton the lucky one and thinking, how is it possible, there were no boys, there were no boys, these are mostly girls, but still girls want more, they don’t have dreams come true, when they are not accepted, or there is a screening process.
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it’s a long way from a choreographer to a people’s artist, yes, yes, and this is just one out of thousands, who
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played a decisive role in your destiny? you know, i’ve lived something like this, albeit a short one, but i’ve lived a life, and i looked back and thought, there are things like this in life, how can i say, you meet people, such events that they direct you where you need to go, that’s what happened to me in the theater, i came and treyan yuri antonovich somehow noticed me, here he is... to me says: come on, come on , come on, come on, don’t go anywhere, we’ll work here, you have prospects, well, thanks to him, of course, i achieved this, well, that means he’s your pick, he chose you , yuri troyan, yes, then i studied at the academy of management under the president, and there, too, somehow i ended up with the supervisor for bibi’s diploma , tatyana bernardovna, she’s just like this, like this, like this, like this here , i now understand that without her i might not even have finished. first, she says, come on let's go to graduate school, then , here is the civil service institute, you go there, look
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, this is it, and i remember that the first diploma, i didn’t even understand how, how, how to write it, that’s what, where, and what , and then the subsequent work, that’s how she explained everything, everything intelligibly and sat there with me, well, not everyone, not every person will sit with you and explain to you what needs to be done, how to write, how to write correctly, how to compile this is all, and what follows, as far as i understand, i liked it so much that it was like i studied three times.
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you celebrate your own sculptural quality , well, i don’t like the way i dance, but what did you do so that you were finally appointed spartak, appointed, well, here they probably appointed the wrong word, they appoint officials, but here
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it’s still a selection , here they give you the opportunity to try, there to rehearse, it looks like it works. they don’t work out, but they give many people the opportunity to show themselves, but few cope with the load, i just remember, that when i started this, i was probably about 24-25, when i just started spartacus, and i remember that when i danced it, i had these thoughts, after the first act, there are three of them, i was like, why do i need all this, i will never do this again, i don’t need it, i don’t want to be a presenter, i don’t want to dance, i want to quit with all this, it’s so hard, well, somehow physically or physically, that is, it’s difficult; the main part in our theater is the most physically difficult part, yes spartak is beautiful, this is the most enduring, critics noted that spartak in your performance attracts with spiritual power
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and unshakable convictions, but you personally can boast of these qualities, this is probably correct to say. perseverance, yes, uncompromisingness, also fanaticism, you can also, beautifully, perseverance, in achieving something, well, yes, i even have that, i ’ll tell you all the secrets now, but they don’t like to argue with me, why, because they say that he is always right, that's how i would be i always prove my point of view, you know how to justify it, yes, well, yes, with arguments, of course, but i just try... not not to argue when i don’t know for sure, i try not not to say, but maybe it’s just that i ’m so confident i say, i remember that when i actually entered 10 years after i finished studying, i entered a university, and i had to, when i graduated, there was no testing yet, but 10 years later it appeared, and i i had to take the test, i remember that i went to
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preparation courses, so i taught for testing. you are doing something wrong, i was somehow caught by the phrase that you don’t like the way you dance, why him? well, i think that this is the case for many, yes, many, yes, i know that many cannot watch their recordings immediately after the performance, so a month must pass, then you can watch, why? well , because you look, so here you haven’t finished it, here you need more, here you need to go wider, well, it’s like you immediately start working on mistakes
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, yeah, here’s a very small pose, here it’s short, this here, ah, here’s the wrong one working on mistakes, now i understand. you have two ballets with yuri troyan, you already mentioned that he chose you, these are from recent years, i mean, vytautas anastasia, let’s look at fragments from anastasia, even three, also the little humpbacked horse, yes, the little humpbacked horse.
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both productions are on a belarusian historical theme. can you say that these ballets enriched your understanding of who we are, where we come from, and where we are going? first of all, these...
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the play there is anna karenina, that is , you reread it, prepare carmen, start rereading it again, because well, when you i read it a long time ago, because i didn’t remember everything, some moments slipped away, when you read it, you didn’t think that you would have to dance, stage something like that, so well, i’m sure that before they stage it, they re-read what is it possible to isolate the myth about belarusians from this story from anastasia ? or twisted, have you thought about it? and the myth , uh-huh, i don’t know the myth, but some kind of feature, we always resist some kind of
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adversity, litigation, that we always overcome something, somehow it fell to our lot here , yes, something, someone he passes by and wants to capture us, roughly speaking, and not even to capture us, but simply by passing by, he destroys everything.
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i’m not ready yet, so after 10 years i entered somewhere, then i thought, why should i study the same thing again, that they can still tell me more than i know, and i thought, what is interesting to me myself? , this is what i would like to study for myself, and what profession i would like to do after, and i came to the conclusion that i am interested in economics, that i am interested in all the laws, how they function, and when i entered in general,
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well, i always remember it very fondly, this is probably the best years of study in my entire life, this is at the academy of management, probably you consciously, because you have already come to this, not mom brought it herself, yes, yes, such interesting teachers, such interesting material that... they taught, and perhaps yes, because i was already 30 years old there, yeah, not 18, like how children come, they also studied with us there younger guys, it was all like that for them, one thing flew away, another flew out, there to play tanks, there to quickly run away somewhere, so, but i went to all the lectures and just listened to them, and sometimes it even somehow happened that i came, there were no other listeners, there were us there were a couple of people. the teachers are all there, where they are, but they still gave lectures, and even i think that this should be taught even in school,
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some basic economics, i agree with you. or international economics, i went to the department of international relations, and as if further i studied in this department, well, i it was more interesting , not how the organization works within the country, but how exactly in the international arena, how countries cooperate with each other, why some countries have more money, some have less, why they seem to declare alone. goals, but in
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the end they turn out to be different, well, they explained it to you convincingly, but convincingly in what sense? well , do you understand how it works? of course, well , thank god, it’s as if the best ideas turn into the most unpopular decisions, yes, unfortunately, for now we’ll pause for a while, i remind you that we have a telegram channel, don’t be silent, subscribe, ask questions and suggest guests, we are connected! we are embarking on an expedition in the depths of our country. let's start with a magical folklore expedition with the paradoxical numbers 568. there will be pimples on the other side many times before. let's follow the history and
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myastsovye abrads. at myastechku. the charms are gone, but with that wedding, which has been going on for three years, with projects ahead of the last minute on the tv channel belarus 24. paleshuks are these people who live in harmony with sorry, no one can describe the carcinoma like that when i pass such an unusual
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sight.
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and you recently said in an interview that you built a house with your own hands, how did you manage to do it? well, how did you build it yourself, what did you manage to do there? you know, there is a saying, i like it, yes, don’t be afraid to do something with your own hands and remember that... an amateur built the ark, and professionals built the titanic. well, have you read any special literature, or is it just in your knowledge? well, everything is on the internet, in my opinion, now can you find it, that is, did you build a house on the internet? no, not on the internet, but some there, well, i don’t know, since childhood i was constantly doing something with my hands, his father was also constantly doing something for me, and i also ran under the table on foot there, i watched everything , what does it do, well, i just tried it, well, i don’t know, on the bag of cement it says how
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to mix it, how to make a solution, well... everything is there , roughly figured out where what rooms are there, well , that’s of course not not from the fact that there was nothing to do there, but from the fact that it was simply it was expensive. and it was cheaper to do it yourself. the “say don’t be silent” program is on air again, and today our guest is the premier of the bolshoi theater of belarus, people’s artist anton kravchenko. anton, you have traveled half the world with the bolshoi theatre, in which countries do they openly love belarusian ballet? ballet, in principle, is now on the rise in the world, not only in the ussr, but in europe and america, in asia, especially in china, in japan, it is a very popular art form there, it was well received everywhere, i it even seemed that in some countries they were received better than here, this is more connected with culture, because
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somewhere in china if they clap, it’s already good for all of us, oh, you clapped for you, this is good, then in some other countries they whistle, stomp their feet, this is considered good ? well, in europe, there in italy, yes, in my opinion, there is also such a tradition of stomping, it ’s kind of very cool, that is, in europe, here you are, you directly feel that you are accepted, the performance was a success, but why are ballet dancers so often somewhere they are moving with a scandal, why did troyan tell you not to go anywhere? leave, because he knew what he was talking about, but with the scandal, well, you just understand with us. there was such a policy that they didn’t allow artists to go to the country for a certain period of time , for a month or two, that’s why people left completely forever, i think it’s wrong, and it’s like that all over the world, well,
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it’s normal, in the big theater of russia in marinka, people can leave for a month or two, work there and come back, because look, they are all stars, they are in laskala, they are in the grapole there. yes, but, but you didn’t go halfway around the world, did you? yes, although i had the opportunity, i was offered to work, somewhere - abroad, where , but i still chose to work with us, but how do you explain yourself, why and why i chose,
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well, the money was more, but not, not much , not so much as to specifically chase money, but there was a different repertoire, because the repertoire is very important for an artist, but...
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he doesn’t like dancing classics, that he is moving more into modern dance, i tell him, listen, i thought then, how can he, how can he not love it? classics, how tired he is of them, this is the best thing that can be, and now, when i’m already approaching this age, i, too , am already getting bored with the classics and i would like some modern productions, and i say, imagine, how over time the view on this has changed, that’s how i, too, would now answer you, that both are important, and both are interesting when you have a lot, that’s how they said, yes plesetskaya, she retouched
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swan lake a thousand times, then of course within a thousand times you will already hate him, and you i want something new, some search for new facets, new horizons, new images, because our profession... and why is it valuable, and like the profession of a film actor, that you can live many different images in your life, and even not just to live, but very interesting for me, at least, the process of precisely finding this image, what kind of person, what kind of behavior, what kind of posture he should have, how he should walk, how he should look, this is it that’s it, well, i have to figure this out, it’s interesting to delve into this, maybe not for some, for others it’s interesting to stand up and pretend to be yourself, i liked the way you work with ivana karenina , it’s also like some kind of found image, it seems to me that there’s a goal, i actually have three three there. roles, that is, me and karenin
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, and vronsky, and steve, and i saw steve, yes, everyone is interested in what is there, that is, there is no role that you like, there is a macho manly, so, no, well, everyone likes that , well, where would any man not like macha, so that he, move, well , this is, well, some kind of romantic lyrics, in my opinion, interesting, an interesting role, an interesting part, but it... is very limited in our performance, it seems to me that this part could have been made wider, choreographically written. this year you were a teacher-tutor for dmitry uksusnikov and anastasia voloshko in the filming of the big ballet show, did you like watching the television process, how different is it from a theatrical production? well, this is radically different, and in general, i’ll be honest, at the beginning somehow.
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i realized that this is what i was missing, i really need such trips, do you see what they they dance, how they dance, their modern performances, because there , in my opinion, everyone had six, six or seven numbers, here are the classics, modern, and you watch some new shows, watch how the guys work, after all, they are all different, but there are a lot of theaters in russia, and a lot of guys work, and so it’s just a very, very positive impression.
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similar to the previous one, something new, complicate something somewhere, i remember that yuri antonevich always told me that and you say, while you are young, complicate it, because you, when before retirement, you won’t be able to, you said irina yaromkina, a comfortable ballerina, and what comfortable means, so you know, you can’t tell it in a nutshell, it’s when you become, you understand that you are always calm and that you you know that... everything will work out for you, that she won’t throw anything away, because well, after all, we are so nervous, yes, that we can kick something up, somehow get scared of something and we won’t get support, then here we go here i always went on stage with her and i was always calm that everything would be the same it’s good, as we had in the hall, that no,
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how to say, surprises will happen to us, but at the same time, it’s nice to dance like with a person with her, huh? when you watch videos like this from twenty years ago, does nostalgia come over you? but no, in exactly the same way, i didn’t finish it there, here it was necessary lower, it was necessary to stretch it, here it was lowered, it was necessary to turn it faster, but that’s the only way , just recently there was a tour of the bolshoi theater of russia in minsk, it was really thunderous, and so were we came to the theater, i felt that way the difference, in general, but i’m interested in you.
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it is clear that somewhere it will be better, somewhere worse, they have more artists, more choice, why are there more salaries, that is, they have grants from the president for salaries, and any artist, even here, say, let’s go work in bolshoi theater of russia, i’m ready for it, but like in that film there are two people, that’s a plus. of course, this is a name that has been created over the years , but i believe that our theater is no worse, and we may be a little inferior to them in some ways, but by and large, it’s like we have a pretty strong body of a strong theatre , but you watch these performances when some star comes to tour you, or
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a whole theater show is brought to you, or you know everything and can do everything, no, of course, we try to watch everything if possible. everyone who comes, in addition to this, also go to other theaters, but it is very difficult to do this, because it often happens that there is a performance on stage, and we are rehearsing from above on the rehearsal stage or in the hall, but how did it turn out in your fate , anton, why didn’t you go to bolshoi theater of russia, but somehow it didn’t work out, there is no more detailed story, how to say, not that there was an opportunity, but i tried. it didn’t work out, how old were you then? around thirty. well, i don’t regret, i don’t regret that it turned out that i stayed in this theater, again, i like our repertoire, i like our company, i like our theater, and i’m happy that they gave me the title, if i had left,
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i wouldn’t have a rank, well, you just listed what you like during interrogation, well, i say it as i think, well, really. as if that's why i stayed, but after all, experiments, which you already began to think about after thirty, and about which baryshnikov talked little about in our theater, we will not deny this, yes , experiments, yes, experiments, i mean the same modern choreography, yes, all artists they talk about it, but it doesn’t come, well, it came right away, now more...
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it suddenly began to remain, that’s why i now limit myself, and try to eat
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once a day. this is the program say don’t be silent, our guest is people’s artist of belarus anton kravchenko. and you and i decided talk about the premiere, the illusion of love. igor kolp, practically opening our studio after the housewarming, was very worried, trembling, i don’t know how it is now. he feels, but how did this premiere look to you, was it interesting to work on it? you know, over many years it’s like a breath of fresh air, in a closed room, that’s the plastic, all the ideas that are on stage, and the images that are there, and in general, that’s all. that’s it, that’s how we worked, it was really serious for the whole troupe, yes, yes, yes, and this is exactly what we
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lacked, because it’s impossible to do the same thing, yes, you know, how to read one book, it’s a wonderful fairy tale, there’s a bun, or a turnip, but you have to something else to read, so that there is development, development both for the company and for the viewer, and i think that this performance, it’s well... it’s just like a revolution for our theater, you can also find a reference to the six dancers there, and a reference to shapynyane, that is, there are two acts completely opposite to each other, and i won’t spoil it, yes, yes, but you are a good advertisement i did it, i already want to watch it, but even i know that i have friends, they went to both premieres, the second and third, why did they want to see both casts. two casts and they say that we will come on the sixteenth , for the third cast, they say that we
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watched the first performance, the second, and after the second we saw a lot more of what we didn’t see after the first, it’s just completely different thoughts, and my wife went, here she is, but she only went on the third ticket, because there were no tickets, i i couldn’t buy tickets for her, she went on the third , she said on the sixteenth, please, me too. i'll go, they don't give you invitation stamps? and well, you know, they sort of give it out, but for the premiere it’s even impossible to give everything to everyone, that is, there is some kind of quota, but you know what bothered me there, the music of lionid, hardly the great composers shistakovich and shakan? you know, he got there so successfully and so he compiled it all and so it’s all there and added something there, as we said, yes, this is a merger.
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justice, so that she wins, well, for everyone has their own justice, but for one person it’s fair this way, and for another it’s different, it’s impossible to somehow say that this is fair and not otherwise, well , now i understand why you win in arguments, i remember the phrase, the best way to win an argument is to avoid it, anton probably agrees with you, of course, the strongest wins, i think he didn’t avoid it, he just. tan gave an exhaustive answer to your question, well, how do we all strive, strive for some kind of ideal, for spirituality, yes, but how can i say, probably
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we are still... all together are not so spiritually developed that it is spirituality that wins for us, yes, so far strength wins, and your wife, you mentioned her, what does she do? well , she used to be a ballerina, she also studied at our kharifin college, worked for some time in our theater, in addition to this , she worked in her dance studio, and taught children dances, not only ballet, she worked in the circus in shows. circus ballet for a long time, hmm, then she switched to horseback riding, horseback riding, yes, there is such a thing, but it happened recently, she left ballet and switched to horses, there are all sorts of tricks on horses, go to the circus, see how she does, well , yes, of course, i go, i say everything like that, and you have kids, it’s easy to say, maybe
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you need to reconsider your new activity, that is, not very much. well, of course it’s dangerous , well, on horseback, well, in general, the circus is a dangerous place , the theater is a dangerous place, and the circus is twice as dangerous, well, when you ride a horse there, yes, you take one leg out of the saddle, you bend over somewhere, your heart skips a beat. when she does it, no, but i'm sure she knows that this is not the first time in her life she’s tried this, yes, what about her, why did she turn away from ballet, she didn’t turn away, she’s still doing all this at the same time, like in parallel? after all, we all learn to dance , so we come to a college, we learn to dance and dance, to move on stage , namely movement, then everyone in different ways, someone ends up in folk ensembles there, and in a folk dance ensemble there, who some people end up
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in some shows, others end up in a ballet theater. someone ends up in the circus, someone goes there for some contracts, someone goes, goes in general, i know that some of our girls are on canvases, but they go to the circus, yeah, some go on ships there, perform in shows, some go to casinos, some go on tour with ballet companies, that is, this it’s all about dancing, it’s all about being on stage, there ’s movement on stage for the audience, so i don’t think it’s going somewhere. i wonder, as a native menchan, where do you like to celebrate the new year and do you have any place of power in the capital? i somehow always celebrated the new year at home whenever i could, because it often happens that this on tour, yeah, it happened that on the bus, we were driving there, well, yes, unfortunately, for artists, the new year is often a job, yes, yes, yes, well, it’s like
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dancing right on new year’s day, i don’t remember this, that’s the bus for sure. i remember, and we didn’t even stop, i remember, it was offensive, then remember the most exciting or interesting or memorable, besides the bus, besides the bus, well, probably this is in germany, we were taken to such a castle, well, the castle is a palace, probably, and so we celebrated in this castle, you are a corpse, a corpse, yes, well, everyone who went they built it up, that is, they paid for some food for us there, well, it was like it was not only such an evening.
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when this big canvas develops on a flakshato, you somehow feel some kind of pride, yes, but it seems to me that this is exactly what should bring us all together, that this is exactly this, well , how, well national symbols, and state symbols, well, this is like one of the symbols, today we made such a retrospective of your life, in art, i mean, is there disappointment in the choice of profession in the end or not? you know, i'm somehow in life i think that if you made this decision, then it is the most correct one, yeah, it means that it would have been bad, worse, differently, and but when they ask if you would live the same way again, i always say: no, why, it would be uninteresting to live the same way, that is , if i were given the opportunity to return, i would
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already want it differently, so that fate would work out, so that we would already catch on. this feature of yours, you know, when you told me that you don’t have to have a partner all the time, i remembered a friend who didn’t it is imperative that there is the same hairdresser, on the contrary, he likes surprises. and goes to different people every time, and life knows how to surprise him, including not very well, anton, therefore, well, in the end we wish you that this thorny path of yours always brings you pleasure as often as possible, thank you, thank you for this meeting, tatyana shcherbina, victoria popova, we say goodbye to you for today, goodbye, goodbye, anton kravchenko is speaking now. dear viewers, go to the theater. love each other and come to the ballet, dear anton, write please leave your autograph for some nice wishes, thank you.
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beauty!
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the traditional form of government for us is the base, and to it we can and should add a superstructure of what are called democratic institutions, these are elections of a leader, that is, a president, elections to parliament, and a national referendum. it is important for me that you appreciate not the form of the tsar, but the essence of what i am saying: when we, by strengthening the supreme national assembly, return the historical veche to the control system, it does not contradict a strong leader, but complements the system. what is the difference? a politician from a statesman, a politician thinks about future elections, and a statesman thinks about future generations, we can do something to help the world find peace only if we ourselves have order at home, because if
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suddenly we have disorder , then we will have neither time nor energy left for world problems. propaganda project, watch on tv channel belarus 24. live broadcast of the main news at noon in the studio olga kalairova, hello and short.

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