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posture, low voice and correct speech. she is an actress with a capital a, people like her are said to serve theater and art because she cannot do otherwise. today my guest is people's artist of belarus, actress of the kupala theater, zenaida zubkova. zenoida petrovna, hello. hello. you have been serving at the kupala theater for 63 years now. of the year. i calculated everything correctly, i didn’t make a mistake, it’s correct. no. what is the secret of such devotion to the kupala theater? well, how? this, this all starts from childhood. i plunged into my fantasy. i absolutely loved the theater. i saw him for the first time in dvinsk. there was a theater there. this is latvia. latvia, yes, latvia. post-war years. and the only thing that was kind of fantasy was the theater. and i was like...

on a submarine, the beginning of the war, it was as if everything had already frozen, frozen, they had such landings on skis, they went out and defended leningrad, in one of these, he was the commander of this detachment, in one of these attacks... he fired a machine gun, he saw that

the guys were starting to fall, and he closed the gap, but what do you remember from that time as a military man? you know, i remember, the first thing is that these were germans, amazingly, i was already four, these motorcycles that i saw for the first time with a sidecar, there were two germans sitting, young,

that’s the image, i still have it, i still ca n’t i can’t hear german speech, the german language. i immediately start to cry and i, well, you were also repatriated to latvia, yes , it was to latvia, then we were still sitting in stalag 340 abran, so, you were born in the leningrad region, they wrote me down, because my mother was in leningrad, and where were you born, at the car wash, at car wash, yes, car wash, you and i were born in the same place. mom says , there was a circus not far away, why after the end of the war you didn’t return home to leningrad, but came to belarus, you know , the fact is that i have two german stamps in my certificate, one is a saber, the second

is a stalag, birthplace, and after the war mother i couldn’t go because of these two sorrows. it was unspoken, but we had papiations, yes, yes , i understood, it was not moscow, not st. petersburg, so my mother, when i went to belarus, she said, well, try, maybe in belarus, like the girl who went through such the horrors of war, i suddenly had a desire to become an actress, i was a big dreamer, i looked, for example, at... the reeds, there were a lot of such swampy places around dvinsk, these reeds and i immediately imagined, i’m a fish, or i’m fox between them, then i started performing , uh, fairy tales with kids like me, and then i went to the uh house

of pioneers, they were performing cinderella, and they called me, as we are now... we’re talking at the radio studio, and i told my story there the first monologue, it was all clear, but how did post-war minsk greet you, what was it like ? oh, first of all, i was amazed by the opera house, i didn’t see any opera, i didn’t hear, i didn’t see ballet, all this... right away there was a selection committee there, there was an institute there, and we lived there in one of the rooms who arrived, this again, it was a fairy tale, it was a secret, and after each

round, my nerves were probably so open that i cried with everyone, they called me that, the girl who cries when they finished... the director called me and said: what will we do with the belarusian language? i say, i will learn, i will learn everything, and that you really learned the belarusian language from scratch? on one's own? yes, who from the belarusian metro scene were your classmates? firstly, we had konstantin nikolaevich sannikov, this is the leader, he... was finishing at that time fourth year, and we were in the first year, so we had it, fourth year. tarasov, ovsyanikov, tolkacheva, with us, lillya davidovich, i, misha petrov, were you accepted into the kupala theater immediately

after graduation? yes, we already went on tour, went with... so somehow they surrounded us like this, this continuity, like the patronage of experienced actors over young people, has it always been in the theater? yes, where do these traditions come from? i don’t know where, i continue this tradition, i

continue because i want to, i see mistakes, but this is simply due to the already great age, and i want not to offend. that’s how they sometimes do to me, so as not to offend, say the exact word, one small one , and that’s how to support. rather , they will even hint, and instantly everything falls into place , this creative family should exist, you should never understand and it’s like putting it into your brain that you are better, no, you have separate qualities, just like your counterpart , he also has, and you are in... the role so that there won’t be any war, you have your merits, i have mine

dignity, you know, and we enrich it, that was in the theater. tell me, petrovna, is it true that you go to the kupala theater every evening? almost, why is this so necessary for you? i remember stefan mikhalovna when i was already on the slope. she was very bored for years, she was lonely , although she had a grandson, but like me, i live alone, and sometimes i feel very sad, and stefanya mikhalovna came to the theater, she had a cake, a bottle of crown, and blocked , oh, girls, let's sit for a while, i was walking past, i think well, this is how she brightens up herself. there was a time when she almost didn’t work anymore, i

can’t help but ask you about the special kupala spirit, here’s what exactly it is for you, i talk about this all the time, guys, it’s necessary that where we fireplace room, hung by the founders of this theater, now it is empty, i say: they will already be leading actors, i don’t know how, how many of us, god willing, but they will be

leading actors, and the guys came from moscow, but they learned the language, they even speak more clearly than some belarusians, in addition classical roles in your creative biography there were roles that not all viewers perceived unambiguously, and i’m talking about the wedding performance.

but he’s smart, ponkov, you do as

your whole inner self tells you, all the actions of the performances, you have a lot of experience, and i ’ll set you up, i’ll support you, but when we were invited to france for the second time with this performance, we traveled for a whole month and then another half a month. then we have spain, then we have tbilisi, baku, in moscow twice in st. petersburg and china. what about you in this role? what attracted me was that it all happened from the beginning , we sit in front of the curtain for almost 20 minutes, while the audience gathers, and i walk, as if in the mood, i will now explain why i do this, so i slowly begin to remember

how it was. her memories are confused, scary, she suddenly saw a person like this and like that , at the same time, and initially you were confused , of course, by age, yes, yes, and then i didn’t feel it, it’s completely me, i could now play her for my 85 years, you know that

this is not the essence of the matter, but its perception... that this performance is very personal for you, by the way, why? i had a mother like that, a mother who didn’t live for herself, but lived for others , not just for children, that’s where hanna is, she helps everyone, despite her pain, the fact that she doesn’t have two children, one is in prison , the second

unknown, disappeared, where as. but she has such an immense heart, let’s all of us , all three of us, under one roof, sit down and live, that’s her heart, because an actress cannot take from the outside, you have to look for it for yourself, if you find a response in yourself, then yes, yeah, yeah i was once again talking about love with natasha. what roles do you still regret not playing, what would you like to play, it’s already gone, so let’s not remember, well, there ’s a lot of things i’d like to play, of course, but well , it’s like on stage, that’s what it’s about in life

you would have dreamed, but unfortunately, it didn’t happen like that, it happened, i would dream that my husband would bring his memory back to him, that he would live to this day, we loved each other very much, very much, this is what i miss, because i miss lilya mikhailovna davidovich, this is my friend, the institute, we together, got married together, we had children, and i miss her very much, she was the closest person to me, whom i could trust with everything, you are one of those rare actresses who succeeded not only in the profession, but in life, it was difficult to combine family life with a profession, you know,

we each did our own thing, i had a husband, vladimir fortunatov, yes, a coach, so we didn’t fit in, one didn’t fit in with the other, but we couldn’t be each other, so i don’t know how, how to explain it, i could have come after the performance, and we could go to the park, go for a walk until one, until two, we were not there during the day or evening, he was at training, we had to find some time, talk, and we left. and there were, and you have a legend about how you got married, but they say that it was thanks to gealnikov, he was the one who introduced you. we were playing in orbit and sonechka was there with me and genna was sitting on the bench below that’s where the frogs

are and the fountain is a fountain yes he said zin come here i’ll introduce you here fortunato fortuna is sitting and he really me introduced me, so we walked, walked, it was. it turns out, i’m already thinking, if, like , i would be a good cook, simply, but my husband taught me that, i didn’t take care

of the house at all, he was all house, i just devoured, and what did you do that was special? , pies, pies, yes, cakes, good bosh , delicious meat, i was so dashing, yes, dashing, somehow, then i started knitting, this is my skill, personally, i knitted everything for my daughter at birth, from the cap to trousers, coats and everything else, if you have some free minutes of rest, as you prefer relax, read or go to the forest, just walk around, gain energy, think. listen to the birds, listen to the noise of the trees, somehow all this, except that you are a wonderful actress, you are a grandmother, you have grandchildren, uh, how

often do you manage to see them, there are three of them, three, three wonderful ones, we usually meet or on new year's or easter, and definitely in august, early august, i have my own house here... they built their house in the forest, so it's mandatory, and so on holidays, but children, i really like them, something, i tell them, but we rarely, only i always tell them please, please don’t speak german in front of me, why is this condition, please tell me where i got this from, and where do they get german from, they live abroad, well... one of your grandchildren going to continue the acting dynasty? i don’t think so, although she’s the youngest, she plays the piano well. zenida petrovna,

you recently turned 85 years old. yes, these are very serious numbers, many congratulations indeed. what do these numbers mean to you? well, it's time to rest. it's time to come to your senses a little and slow down, horses slow down, because there are 15 years left until i turn 100, no, guys, of course, speaking seriously, this is a very big date, i am grateful to god that i live, as much as i gave, as much as i gave. and how it will go further, it’s all in his hands, but still we must thank both

dad and mom, who tried so that i was born, so that i came into the profession, so that i enjoyed the profession, so we come to the last question of our programs about... for the fact that you generously share it with the audience, for the fact that you selflessly serve the theater, art, and of course, i wish you new

roles and some... pleasant, memorable moments of life, thank you, oh, what a beautiful bouquet, mother to me, this was the meaning of zenoida zubkova’s life. we set off on a journey through belarus to the sorochansky lakes, the blue necklace of the island region, which rightfully tops the list of the most beautiful places in belarus. here once upon a time there was a sacred dubrava in this place, although, unfortunately, now nothing remains of it, only this king oak. with us, you will receive a charge of positive emotions. friends, right here

now i'm on my own. i envy you, god, there is a wonderful tradition: to hug an ancient tree and make wishes, we ask you to join our round dance, with pleasure, oh, start dancing, visit the bright sights of our country. the church was built by order of chancellor lev sapieha back in 1604. this temple is truly very unusual, its peculiarity is that it opens. its doors only once a year for parishioners on a special occasion. look in the program. the route was built on the belarus 24 tv channel . officials of latvia investigative committee belarus opened a criminal case under the article of crimes against the safety of humanity. previously, criminal cases were opened against their comrades from poland and lithuania. although these countries participated in disturbing the peace in the middle

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