tv [untitled] BELARUSTV December 17, 2023 7:50pm-8:51pm MSK
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energetic, inspiring people who live in belarus and do everything for its development. belarus can be different, to understand and feel it, you need to see it with your own eyes. hello, dear tv viewers, the belarus24 tv channel is on air, watch us every day, because we are making belarus closer. hello, we welcome everyone who is with us now, today, without unnecessary introductions, straight to the point, that’s who we are dealing with, verkhovna rada deputy sergei sobolev, during a recent meeting in kiev, he entered into...
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he openly admits that according to essentially like the west is interested in both ukraine and belarus solely from the point of view of geopolitics, what we said in this studio, don’t care about the people, don’t care about the country, exclusively turn our country into a tool and start a war against the russian federation, he doesn’t hide this either , he doesn’t say any further. this is true. the next step is belarus - military action against russia. the second illustration is a civil war on the territory of the republic of belarus. and look at one thing: a man is sitting, a deputy of the verkhovna rada, although his deputy i can’t name it, because the people in ukraine haven’t elected anyone for a long time. since 1914, you can forget about the elections in ukraine. these are not elections, but just window dressing, because real political forces that tell the truth have not been allowed to participate in elections for a long time, they are burned.
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they kill as in the house of trade unions and so on, a man destroyed his country, in fact, a civil war, so many thousands have already been destroyed, lying in their graves in ukraine, and he sits and says, this is an example for us, let’s do it, and he continues further , will like ours, you will live a wonderful life, that is , war, blood, tears, lack of state sovereignty, but as for ours, i just want to say one thing, here i am...
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they are listening to the ukrainian deputy, they are alexandrovich, well, the same people who are imprisoned understand perfectly well that they are being used, that they essentially work for the sbu, for gur, then come the cia, mi6, that is, this is not an idea? dmitry alexandrovich, i will answer this question, but i would like to say a few words about the meanings expressed by oleg sergeevich, i fully support him in the fact that now ukraine as a state, as a political system, does not exist, there is practically no sign that it is a state, there is no sovereignty, no independence in decision-making.
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a wild field where they live not even according to concepts, but simply on the basis of some kind of instincts, corruption as the norm of life, why did i start talking about this now, it would seem that these are not our concerns, even if they live there like they want, but this is precisely the way of existence that the fugitives wanted and still want to offer for us, i understand very clearly, in the twentieth year no one hid that lustration was ahead, that is, the trampling of the violation of the law, that the undermining of sovereignty was ahead, that is, to go under external control to some external forces, thereby preparing the same fate for us , as for your question, why have they essentially already answered it, that yes, well, in short, it seems to me that there are no ideas, there is no super mission
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of ideas about this, there is not even a conversation about this, it seems to me there is something else, this is so beautiful, in quotes, of course , he is tragic, but with from such a scientific point of view, an experiment... to reformat the consciousness of the people, in a historically insignificant period of time they turned the people into, i don’t know, a crowd, a mass, these are still good words for that, for that population that lives, because some believe in something those meanings that come from tv, some are simply intimidated and afraid, and this is just a total grinding of the psyche of an entire people, but it seems to me that they have not turned this population into a mass. i believe that they are simply hiding now and withstanding this whole situation, realizing that they cannot do anything influence, but these people, this gang in kiev, they perceive it as meat and mass, i just want to hope for it, and we know how people live there, and these are very close, people are similar to us, they worry, they - they harbored not
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, all the belarusians are convinced, we are not exaggerating, we are understating, they voiced all their plans, to drown our country in blood, to make out of it... a second ukraine with the hands of these fugitive criminals , this is a very important moment, a very important moment, because they themselves voiced all their plans. it’s interesting that the metamorphosis is happening, i would like to dwell on this moment, when even i now take as an example not only fugitives, but also people who, it would seem, are respected people, dmitry bykov, writer, lecturer, and then he moves on to another, another context, and now we see a prank. performed by vavan and lexus , where a completely different person appears before us, who is sure that he is communicating with the head of zelensky’s office andrey ermak, let’s listen to the fragment and continue: i’m waiting, i can’t wait for the day when mariupol is taken, i’m following this
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direction very closely , of course, when russians are killed, i am offended, but i have no complaints against you, just as i have no complaints against israel about gases, yes. yes, i hope you won’t broadcast this conversation on russian television in any case, i’m generally very proud that i can be useful to you in some way, if only you... it’s a public organization, that’s all life, we say, a respected man, what , he lived all his life for grants, he did not hide it,
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all his life he was financed by the west, because he promoted what the west wanted, and the fate of all these fifth column traitors is always the same: starts with the values he supposedly stands for, everything is always beautiful, freedom, we are fighting for real elections , for democracy, but at the core it’s always someone else’s money , and it all ends, or how he sits, imagine, a man... who says that he defends democratic values, says: it’s okay that people kills, let's make more drones so that they kill even more, mine, those with whom i live next to, let them kill, or secondly, which is even worse, look who committed terrorist attacks on russian territory, who tried to commit terrorist attacks here, the kgb detained, they are all from there, they all started, some in the fund, some somewhere else , you get money somewhere, well, at least keep some face in the fight, where did this come from, it was just this and the last one. returning to kiev for the last time, maybe you should think about one thing, people are sitting and discussing,
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if we put all politics aside, how to kill us, just kill us, that’s all, i would like to speak out, it seems to me that i am this layer i know the intelligentsia quite well, well, by the nature of my activities, previous, present, and i would say that the metamorphosis did not occur in in the case of bykov, the real name is zelbertrud, the fact is that all of him...
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is a famous person, someone allowed him to become famous, this is necessary, you need to not look at what is now, look at what was it’s so difficult, and we need to work on our mistakes so that this doesn’t develop further, so that we don’t listen to this now, according to bykov, is there something to add or will we go further according to bykov, what can we add here, it’s not only bykov who behaved this way , a whole galaxy of the so-called creative class, igalkin. and makarevich, and shinderovich, and even the singer nargiz, who said that
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we should all be killed, well, you know, it’s also shocking that all these people in the russian cultural field, they were literally swimming in money, they received everything from the authorities, apartments, plots, titles , that is , they received everything, and this is how you should be. a rotten person, the kind of self-centered person you have to be for your resentment to turn into such a monstrous degree of hatred.
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he says, the most amazing thing is not that they continue to broadcast to the audience, many of them are now ready to betray what they later said after the start of the svo, to return, if only they would give money, it simply doesn’t work out, but if there was an opportunity to return, cross out what he said, he would spit on his principles and would do about expecting more money, one of the main topics related to this is, of course, biden’s meeting and we managed to talk a lot about it this day, someone paid attention to it, because the content was not as much as some expected, which was answered once again biden answered questions from reporters while reading answers from a piece of paper, indicators are absolutely momentous, and from probably loud statements, although also probably expected statements
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and ukraine as such, its victory is no longer even discussed, it’s not on the agenda , what do you think zelensky and biden actually talked about, well, in this case i understand that it was most likely not zelensky and biden who spoke directly , i understand perfectly well what stands behind them, groups people on one side on the other, because in essence neither one nor the other can agree on their own country, i think i don’t know, i don’t have any sader information, but i assume that zelensky was bargaining for security guarantees for himself and his family for myself personally. for myself personally, there is one issue that definitely needs to be covered, this is that there is a serious political struggle going on within the united states of america, ukraine, i will illustrate this and you will continue, okay, okay, so, there really is a lot of noise did an interview with republican senator james vance on cnn,
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saying that it is in america's interests to recognize that ukraine will have to cede some territory to the russians and we need to end military operations, he said. politics, here are a few more of his quotes, but when we say that his quotes, we understand that many people think so, not only republicans, what is the point of giving ukraine 60 billion dollars if 100 billion did not help before. the state of ukraine is functionally destroyed, the average age of the soldiers 43 years old, it’s okay that putin will take it part or even all of ukraine no, this is not a us problem, issuing a blank check, the republicans are not ready, and so on, that is, so that biden doesn’t whisper to zelensky in a cozy oval office. in real america , questions are heard loudly: the closer the elections, the louder they will be asked, and this is already a system, if you believe gardin, and not to believe, in this case there is no reason, the allies of the hungarian prime minister orban... will talk to the republicans about cessation of funding for ukraine, and a short fragment about how non-elites speak in this case of tucker carlson, spokesman for
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the american masses. our army is the most deplorable example. these are the best people, the salt of the earth, but they are commanded by almost the worst of the worst. i was at a junior commander’s wedding this weekend, and he kept complaining about how bitterly offended he was. these people are risking their lives.
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skeptical, why? both republicans and democrats do not need a strong europe, and republicans and democrats do not need peace in europe. the question is how they, each of these parties, and those who are now sitting in the white house, see the possibility of continuation. was included in this military company, together with belarus, the whole of europe, they want to do this through terrorist attacks, through extremism, that is, they need to somehow prolong
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the fire, the americans will provide assistance, i am sure that the assistance will not be given in the same volume, in which someone was waiting, but the war will continue, because in fact they are on it earn, the republicans are backed by the same military-industrial corporations that have already calculated which us states received record gains this year.
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stayed, well, and then they will receive orzhi talked about how most of the funds still remain in the united states, also american politics, it is inextricably linked with political symbolism, so if for the first time zelensky was received from the main entrance on a red carpet, in in the literal sense of the word, this time he was received from the side entrance, the western wing, met it is not president biden, as... for the first time, but one of the leaders of the presidential office, this is a very important point, well , now the americans are directly saying that ukraine needs to dig in, thus the widely publicized counter-offensive has turned and is turning into a counter-retreat. well, here’s one more thing, the duping of the population of ukraine, which we talked about at the beginning of the program, i was tracking
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ukrainian resources yesterday. there’s nothing to brag about, including in negotiations with biden, just imagine, remember these fakes that putin died, that something happened there in russia, in belarus, yesterday a new fake appeared, this is all seriously accelerating. biden gave some new secret missiles , which one missile destroys an entire platoon there, and no one sees it, everyone writes: hurray, now we’re straight ahead, imagine how they mock people, why, so that new meat goes to the front, new meat was used for... for this mobilization it died again, that is, this, this is a huge amount of money allocated for this, a large part of this american money goes to information processing, duping population, now they are already trying to turn this failure around in an informational way for the population, that something good is ahead, new missiles, now everything will be fine, everything will be fine, and during this time thousands more will die, thousands more will be in their graves, so what’s scary is that another of our neighbors are big
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democrats... oleg aleksandrevich, well, in general , i want to say right away that it’s symptomatic for me how they quickly reclassified tusk from a kremlin agent to a german spy, that’s what this whole story is about, what are you from anyway? are you expecting it, well, apparently nothing good is expected in belarus, by the way , when we are discussing what oleg sergeevich spoke about today, there is controversy and some kind of political battles between democrats and republicans
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in the usa, i don’t know conservatives or librists there . poland, i never think that one of them is better for us, that’s what the conversation was about today, as a rule, these are private problems within political life, they can discuss, but on the external contour they are usually united, well, maybe some relative, relatively small there may be differences, but in general one’s own policies, the policies of one’s country and the forces behind the policies. big business, lobby groups there, they implement it quite purposefully. in the case of poland, it seems to me that the situation is exactly like this, it is an internal political struggle, a struggle of large political forces, where everyone has their own financial resources, support from influential lobby groups, but if we talk about how this affects us, from my point of view vision, not so much in any way, but... there will be no
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change for the better, we are not us we won’t see an outstretched hand, we won’t see any steps towards resolving certain problems, but the fact is that they are mired in disputes among themselves, president duda, prime minister tusk. the political magazine put donald tusk on the cover, calling him person of the year. most likely, given the fact that ukraine is unable to become anti-russian, they will make this anti-russian from poland. of course, we
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he was invited, this is the doctor who came, what profile we will see now. today tusk has a very successful position, he has an airbag, an external contour. all of europe is chanting, tusk has finally come, but there are always huge buts, which means very high expectations on the other side. inside, i had to immediately , in the very first hours, announce the implementation of all the programs that were not announced by him himself, not from this one of his own.
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there will be this, this will be 100 days, then we'll see, he will have to work in a very difficult space, and 95% is too much for the poles, because... his speech and those people who elected him, it testifies that there is no need to make anti-russia out of poland again, it is already is anti-russia, and since the 19th century, and it is still everyone else who needs to join this issue. belarus was mentioned, and it was mentioned in the context of the migration crisis, and the first visit that tusk will make is to tallinn in order to meet with our colleagues.
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of generations, when you solve all the problems, you succeed in something, you get a certain level of pleasure, and this moves you further and develops you professionally. watch the project, a sign of quality on the belarus 24 tv channel . now we continue to a completely different policy and completely different politicians, as they say, check out how professionals work, the middle east, china, africa, alexander lukashenko’s current business trip was not easy large, global, just recently , africa, apart from long-standing contacts with the north , was a distant exotic, but today the continent opens its doors to...
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so, equatorial guinea, then we met in kenya, this is, perhaps, the essence of our strategy, not only, by the way, in africa, we don’t come here to grab something right now. we want to cooperate with you on a mutually beneficial basis. we don’t need charity, we don’t need charity from guinea or from outside.
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dichotomy: north-south, starting from the soviet these points were chosen on the african continent in the middle east, the middle east region , in geopolitics there is such a concept or such a time, the emphasis was all towards the geopolitical north, europe, the usa, it is not by chance that the route was built here, it is not by chance that we are talking not about geographical, but as geopolitical , a cultural phenomenon, all our foreign policy... power was aimed at interaction with the countries of europe, the countries of america, but to a lesser extent, well, in soviet times in africa, asia, in post-soviet times it decreased even more interest in these regions. evidence of this is even the teaching of foreign languages, they focused on english , mainly german and french, and
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the languages of the east, arabic, chinese were practically forgotten, now the south is becoming more and more powerful. factor of politics, economics, culture, and i’m not even talking about china, this is quite obvious, the brix countries, but now the african continent is making itself known more and more loudly. a few words about it: after the system crashed colonialism in the 50-60s, they fell into a new dependence, neo-colonialism, poor, weak, lacking infrastructure, science, trained personnel, they were forced to turn to their former metropolises there.
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what makes africa important is that we can , firstly, act humanely, i think this is very important, bring peace, help to these poor people, health, food, culture, but on the other hand, it’s good, good market for our economy. because the african continent is also the richest continent, it is no coincidence that france, britain, belgium are clinging to the african continent with their feet with everything they can , this is a storehouse of raw materials, these are diamonds, these are oil, these are rare earth metals, this is everything , so we can and should enter this market, but here i am
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in conclusion, i’ll highlight two components that the president spoke about, this is the humanitarian component, we are going in peace, yeah, we are going to help, we are going, we are bringing... good, second, we are going there as partners who want to get theirs, your own benefit, your own benefit, giving this benefit to others side. olga igorevna. africa is not an export. yes. and the humanitarian component is, of course, very important, but it seems to me that the head of our state spoke in a broader context. how can we work in african markets, which are completely captured by western companies within the framework of those. conditions of the international economic system that exists today, we see that this is impossible, even any simple financial transfer will already encounter difficulties, this issue cannot be resolved at the national level, today in the era transformation, which we called it, and
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the turbulence of all these processes, reformatting that are going on, we need, as always, strong, calloused hands. someone must start the process of revising the entire system , we need to build a new model, we constantly say: it is necessary, it is necessary, it is necessary, someone must start this, i consider this tour precisely as the beginning of restructuring the model, because all the countries that i visited alexander grigorievich, they will precisely form the basis of this very new model, and today it is important to agree not only on exports, that is, the transfer of some goods, the exchange of goods and services. about how the new system will function, how to set it up so that all states , truly within the framework of multilateralism, can get their chance for development in africa. i really feel this call from belarus, but this is a very long process, we always say, here is the fight for africa, the fight for the middle east, the fight for
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the post-soviet space, why? the west is not used to living at its own expense, they never live at their own they didn’t live on account, they always lived at the expense of others. why do we say today, the fight for africa will be brutal, why is it just beginning? well, russia, belarus, together with us, a significant part, i think, will teach in the future the post-soviet space. made up, we saw how the americans were punched in the nose in the middle east in a number of countries, here is africa, there is a fight for it, now we return to the president’s visit, which makes me
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happy, as a politician, as a belarusian, as the leader of our country, they are greeted as a leader regardless sovereign state, you you understand that, for example, many european leaders cannot get to the leader of china, not because he does not want the leader of china there, he just understands what to talk about with some president. for example, i’m silent about lithuania, but what does it decide, yes, the president of france, what does he decide, what do a number of leaders of european countries decide today when they look at biden’s mouth, that is , they talk to our president as the leader of a sovereign state, and as for africa, then i will support my colleagues that we have an excellent background, we respect them there too, because they didn’t betray, didn’t change regimes , didn’t meddle in the internal affairs of other countries, but came with real...
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90% were removed, but under the americans it all flourished, they came there to democratize the country, just a drug doctor, if you please, i will reformulate this question, perhaps i will come from a completely unexpected angle, but it is essentially about this, and i would like to start thinking about this topic with you, and at the same time, given that the program is already approaching completion, to draw some conclusions, here... just recently there was very an important date, special december 8th , it is special from all sides, as it is a sacred date, it turns out that in the ninety-first year it is,
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of course, viskuli, in the ninety-ninth year the signing of an agreement on the creation of a union state, and a truly biblical plot turns out, on the one hand betrayal, on the other hand, if not resurrection, then such a painful restoration of one’s connection, this is what is happening now, what we... artificially as a result of the treacherous signing of these agreements on our land, on our belarusian land , it is happening at least like...
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what we lost and what we did not appreciate, also demanding some kind of reforms or being indignant at the lack of some kind of sausage, and what we all received as a result of this tragic collapse , wars, hatred between countries, economic ties have been severed, only thanks to the initiative of belarus and russia, lately at least they are starting to get together, as for... the president’s trip, then we had this wide tour, we saw how one should behave professional manager and
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head of state, don’t knock any doors there in the modern world, only large integrated formations survive, it’s like in economics, yes, that is, there is one single farmer, he cannot compete, just like a single store, never in life will not compete with a chain retailer, the same thing is in the political sphere, in this geopolitical sphere, we need to unite, we need to be united, and we offer,
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the only one who has another very important point i want, regarding the meanings, as oleg aleksandrovich says, he loves, and other experts, yes, we offer our ukrainian neighbors, the ukrainian people, this is the most important meaning - to get out of the war through some kind of creation of a cooperative association, a union, if you like, of belarus, russia and ukraine, this is a very important point, we offer them a picture of the future, but no one offers what will happen next, the war will end. the war will end, and what will happen next? and we offer this meaning and show it in collaboration with other states and, above all, with our main partner the russian federation, benefits, if you like, advantages for the common man, for the population of this interaction. i fully support you, in the concept that you expressed,
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the concept of place, in such a simple folk language, sounds like it would be out of the ordinary, but what do i mean, because the fact is that true sovereignty, in particular economic , yes, all types of sovereignty for western countries are a koschei needle, this, this is their death, oleg sergech is completely rightly said, i know this , it seems to me, on such a theoretical basis that the welfare of the west exists due to unequal exchange, unequal exchange, again in russian it is called robbery, for one dollar of profit, about 80 cents. this is due to robbery, due to pumping out resources, free labor, stolen technological secrets and much, much more. this is the source of their well-being. our naive citizens, some think that the west, america lives because they are hardworking, because they they are thoughtful, they save their every penny , and so on. they live well because they stupidly rob the whole world, when those
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for the fact that we are uniting, it seems to me that we have been busy for years, we have been busy for decades, that we are proving to someone why we need to unite, everything has already been proven to us, europe took this integration path a long time ago, its advantages are obvious, and the fact that we are adopting this agenda that there may be some kind of political, humanitarian we are raising some kind of russian language problem, all this is garbage that comes to us from them, we take it and raise it into our information space. integration processes in the post-soviet space, the word is wrong, they are initially correct, because only within the framework of a common unification, economic integration, can we realize our national interests, not give them up to some supranational level, not lose our sovereignty, but unite and completely realize those national interests that are vital to us
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important to exist as an independent state. sovereignty, sovereignty , and at the same time a simple, banal truth, sovereignty , the belarusian statehood is strengthening in an alliance with russia, and the lithuanian one would be strengthened, there are lithuanians, hear me, you want to be truly sovereign, now you have no sovereignty, in an alliance with we, belarus, russia, will be sovereign, ukraine, if there were no war, there would be real sovereignty, you are going through everything there, independence, independence, so there is no independence and there will not be without an alliance with russia and belarus. the second point, the collapse of the ussr, tragedy and... all the blood of ukraine, all the blood of part of the middle east , everything that was in the post-soviet space is in the hands of those who collapsed the ussr, in their hands, let them turn in their graves, it’s theirs guilt. and one moment. i’ll intervene, i
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one, that no one cares about us except us, we must strengthen ourselves, well, we also need to remember history, great things are seen from afar, today, when we remember this december, we must remember what our president said then back in ninety years , he would be one of the few, and i can say this, i have a father in politics for 30 years, who said: “the collapse of the ussr is a tragedy, we need to build a union with russia, he came to the elections with these meanings in 1994, won with goes with these meanings without changing its position, and this fine. thank you for participating in this conversation, that’s all for today, thank you for being with us.
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