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programs for the last year of work, in fact speaking, we tried to tell something the best on this broadcast and we can say that for us, in fact, for television people, the tv summit is some kind of olympiad, but in fact, speaking in educational language, many of our students also go through olympiad and after that they have certain benefits upon admission, it was not in vain that i started this topic, because for the second week in a row , schoolchildren who graduated. here after

the ninth-eleventh grades they take exams, they are worried, well, somehow we are monitoring how the education system is changing, if it is changing, now we will try to talk about it, alexander vladimevich, last year they said that the centralized exams that took place in our country were as if of a certain kind, well, if not an experiment, then such a debut, but in the format that we have, this year. it’s clear that for eleventh graders, again , this is a debut, but for teachers, how is it going, well, this company, something has changed, we’ve been seeing it for a week now, exams were also taking place today, well, it’s like journalists are snatching up the most greedy facts, how many people were removed, and they spied on them somewhere, cheat sheets somewhere, phone numbers somewhere, but besides all this, how does this go? this campaign, well, i want to say that this year’s graduation party from the institution of general secondary education. the centralized

exam, which took place in two subjects on may 27 and 30, has already been completed, the republican institute for knowledge control is processing the results and the corresponding results will enter schools, where they will be transferred to the grades, and the children will be given certificates at graduation on june 14, last year you correctly noted, it was a debut, i would say, we were switching to a new form of certification in the form of a centralized exam, and of course, thanks to all our colleagues, including instructions from the state commission, which monitors the progress of the admissions campaign, we analyzed this year for teachers and students a number of not innovations were introduced, but those details that made it possible more comfortable, we saw that the time of arrival at the point was too big a gap of

about an hour, we reduced the norm that you can arrive 30 minutes before at the centralized exam point, so we optimized it from the point of view of looking at the points of geography, so that guys... there was less travel , besides this, there were wishes there regarding, let’s say, the holding of the event itself, and in terms of the number of teachers, in terms of their functionality, all this was worked out, yes, but the most important thing, besides organizational issues, is this result of knowledge control, yes, that is, we must still get this control, the fact that not at school, for example, the children go somewhere, it gave this option, this is the most important question that parents ask each other, well, okay, well. .. we used to take tests at school, now we went somewhere, and the point is that we were talking about the fact that the most key goal here is the optimization of processes, remembering, we took tests at school, and then went to take them anyway, there have been three centralized tests for more than 20 years, now guys, it turns out to be the 27th-30th, by the way, we postponed

it to these dates, our eleventh graders are studying according to the code of education until may 25th, they are in school, even if not in their own, but as the head of state it is wise for us... it’s exciting and so on, but in any case , i’m a company, of course, for the first time i understand 100% that you discussed during breaks how it was before, how much better it is now,

here’s your feeling, how is it, if we take the russian language, then it has been simplified many times, it has become easier with last year, if we take the first exam, which was on the twenty-seventh, then it was also easy, but some questions raised doubts, since they took some kind of traditions that are mentioned only once in the textbook and can’t be found anywhere else; if you take, for example, mathematics, then, as my classmates say, everything was there very difficult, there were assignments from previous years, but tell me, during the entire tenth-eleventh grade, yes, schoolchildren usually prepare, well , my son is finishing ninth grade, which means he is also passing exams now, and in any case he passed some additional...we they called their circles when i went, studied, prepared all the tickets that were there for history, in russian, wrote summaries, after all, you also had the same thing, in the tenth, eleventh grade, you prepared, you understood perfectly well, how the exams will be structured, what questions there will be, yes, this was expected, but some

questions still raised doubts, since the wording was a little strange, that is, this is the most important thing, the strange wording, which was difficult, the organization, something that was not in its own way school, that is, everything went smoothly, the only remark was that it was stuffy in the stones, well, i apologize, i’m not stuffy now, i was embarrassed, i wasn’t embarrassed, we made a decision last year that we are mandatory for eleventh-graders in january we hold a rehearsal so that everyone can come, watch, participate, fill out these forms, that is, plunge into this atmosphere completely, the most important task of the rehearsal, and so that egor, i am sure in january on january 28, in my opinion it took place this year , visited this. this was training for a centralized exam, so in general i would like to say that you need to prepare for the exam, that’s all, that is, the wording is not the worst thing, but the most important thing is to say this answer, personally, in all my work as a director, when it was just ct,

now it’s ct, i didn’t hear a single comment from students about the fact that the task was given that is not in the textbook at all, or we don’t know how it is. is solved, but this is an exam, and this year there are tasks of the fifth level, and students assignments level five - what does it mean to understand, but we generally have five levels, in our school, if the guys write any.

but the principle remains on complication, i would like to add, if possible, this is about what, not about what we didn’t know, we studied it at school, ultimately, any task presupposes knowledge of the school subject that was studied, there may be tasks with a separate interesting plot that requires quick wits and a little creative thinking, this is exactly what applies to tasks of the highest level, because they can’t all be standard,

2 more years, but still understanding, in any case , tenth-eleventh grade, as far as i understand, we’ll be enrolling now, they somehow segregate according to the children’s knowledge, yes, that is, after in the tenth grade , some go, for example, to colleges, some go to the tenth grade, for example, there are patriotic themes, some are mathematical, some are chemical, this is the whole story, well, history is general, but.. . at the same time, a humanitarian subject is necessary, and it simply must be studied by everyone, or, as you say, someone may have an interesting idea, then well, we will also give a higher grade, the requirements are standard, do not go beyond the scope of the program, what natalya vladimirovna said, but there is, let’s say, a top-level task with a twist, and this is correct, i heard you correctly, kirill, you are talking about a specific subject of history. we have

an exam in the ninth grade, it is again yes, because it was postponed in the eleventh until last year, history, history, why in the ninth grade there is an exam, because history is a subject for us according to the principle of concentrations, excuse me for talking about this on air, but we study it comprehensively until the ninth grade, complete it and can pass the exam, but in the tenth and eleventh grade it is already taught to the children at a new level of comprehension, and history is the subject that we discussed for a long time on... this is the story that is circulating again among the children, ninth graders, who say, well, in a certain word that does not

fit the described situation, early career guidance and for a working profession, but this is a situation when an institution education forms as what you say specialized classes in subjects, for this you need an average score, a score in the subject in which you want to major, a six, a seven, if you don’t have one, then the base class should be formed accordingly, the children are sent. they say, maybe, if things haven’t worked out for you in 9 years, it’s not worth spending 2 years, which you can use to get vocational training and education, and enter the economy earlier, then along the trajectory get a higher education by correspondence if you need it in life, that’s what we’re talking about, otherwise, as you say, this is the story, when and if nowhere, then we and if nowhere, we’ll take you too, we’ll take you into the tens, because what the ministry of education determines, according to the code, we have general secondary education, and...

it turns out, i have ninth-graders, my eldest daughter is also taking an exam now, that is , you, you can look at the situation right away through the eyes of a mother who has three children there can study at school at the same time, and how teacher? yes, that’s the question, in fact, this system of changing exams now, somehow, from the point of view of teachers, from the point of view of mom, it somehow began to sound differently than last year, the year before, no, that is, besides the fact that the location where they take the exam has changed, and i fully support that outside of school is ideal, that they take it at universities, i

myself worked on the centralized exam, that was 2 days. so as preparation, here come the guys, as preparation, to watch, because english, well now it seems to me that the language of, well, say, a computer, people should know it, just like we now have knowledge of the english language, knowledge of the english language in specialized classes we deepen, at a basic level three times a week, children who are motivated want, they will teach, well, we were just talking about this, if people are not motivated, they still end up in the tenth grade. in your opinion, will your knowledge of your subject be better, or will it remain at the same level? you know, for me as a teacher, if i have this in my class motivated, i want to go deeper, just give them a lot, if i have a student lagging behind in the same class, it’s hard to organize the work, that is, they still need to be differentiated, differentiated those

who we are just used to the fact that the school is in some kind of at least it pulls up those who are lagging behind, and so... it seems like everyone should learn the same way, in fact i agree that this should not be the case, our concept is like this, we have, excuse me, differentiation, we remembered, yes irina said that for an olympiad student, for a strong one, it is when a teacher preparing for a lesson, this is one story of preparing assignments, for the average is another, and well , in our classes there are 25 students, there are in minsk that there are about thirty students there, that’s what i’m talking about, so it’s clear that all the guys, like...

to his child, for example, he very carefully calculated all the grades during the year, because he understood that the tenth grade was important, well, as if again addressing him, he wants to get into a good class there, but this is the tenth , the eleventh is a normal story, now calculate the average, yes normal, but how do you personally evaluate, say, the knowledge, the level of knowledge of the children from your school, again you have this kind of segregation into classes there, conventionally, i say humanities, mathematics and basic, we have a specialized class, it... it is divided into two profiles, this is the english society and the mathematics society, and the mathematics society there is more frequent, the english society society is less, some kind of division, that there is one who remains or not, there is no such thing, everyone is at an equal level, everyone studies well, that is, 9 -10, and there are a lot of kids after the ninth grade they went to college to go, for example, they left quite a lot at college, but

some went just in person, but what is the motivation, well, here i am after the ninth grade. you said a good phrase, get involved in the economy as early as possible, this is all correct, from the point of view of a schoolchild who is finishing ninth grade, what is it called? well, the person is simply unmotivated, he is not ready for the program that is in the tenth, eleventh grades, it will be more difficult for him, so he chooses the easier path to go to college.

my balls are about to fly, whatever, yes, everyone doesn’t need a higher education, why? because when you begin to build some kind of relationships with people in adulthood, you understand that there are car mechanics , builders, there are people who work in agriculture, not all of them need a higher education, in fact, they are in many ways there is the bedrock of this real economy, which holds up our country, and if, for example, you watch the same soviet films, there clearly about... but here we hear and say, in the eleventh grade in the tenth in the eleventh grade there are only those who really understand that the level of knowledge is enough, who goes to colleges and lyceums, this

is so, i think that this is not entirely true or even not at all, why? because in a number of our colleges, when entering the same way, and our guys enter on the basis of an education document, they have very high passing scores, you can enter college without having a high score. they receive vocational education, high-quality vocational education, colleges today are provided with, well, let’s say, a good material and technical base, we

have competency centers or advanced training centers in our colleges, where there are more than 50 such centers, that is , our specialties are also up-to-date, they are being modernized, and those guys who graduate colleges, they are in demand on the labor market, they have an additional opportunity to get, as alexander vladimirovich already said.

the point is, there are colleges, and there are quite a few of them, sergei nikolaevich modestly kept silent about it whose passing score on the certificate starts from eight, the average score. well, my son’s classmate, so he decided to go to a railway worker’s college, and there ’s the current passing score for, for example, the profession of a machinist, which is exactly what i’m talking about.

this is the story, does it work? this story works, today at open days , in addition to the institutions themselves, education, colleges or universities, organizations, customers of personnel, well, for example, on march 23 we held a single open day throughout the country, in all colleges and all universities the doors were open, so it must be said that in our universities alone, more than 900 customer organizations took part in these open days, that is , today... the task is exactly so , it is necessary to turn high-quality career guidance work towards employers, that is, those organizations

where tomorrow these future specialists will come to their first place of work and will be employed, then so that he can see not only what specialty i will enter, but so that he can see what i will work as after receiving a specialty in this college, well , that’s right, because he was already an eleventh-grader, if he had stayed in school, he could already essentially working in a profession. the editors tell me that you have information from today's ct, maybe something like this, yes, today we had centralized testing in a subject of choice, these are mathematics, biology, foreign languages, geography and recent history, about 27 thousands of applicants are this year's graduates. and last years passed centralized testing, it is necessary to note that it was organized in accordance with all the requirements, we had four people, again

out of 27. no, great, well, actually, it seems to me that we have the last time, this is i’m telling you honestly, because i myself am a historian by training, history has become quite popular and, probably, in demand, alexandrovich, i’m not confusing anything now, i graduated from mogilev state university, started when it was still a pedagogical university, so for me, in fact, a pedagogical university is in any case a kind of almamata, yes, indeed, we also have a history

department, here we are before the start of the program, i addressed egor and said: come on come to us at bspu, enroll in the faculty of history, since there are many interesting specialties, not only purely historical, but related to social sciences and humanities, we implement many interesting projects for students in extracurricular activities, our well-known project, which is already more than 60 years old, star treks to the places of military glory of the belarusian people, when during the winter holidays we go out throughout the republic and lay flowers.

here is a question, as it were, a continuation of the topic on specialized education: how many, let ’s say, come to your university of children who graduated from pedagogical colleges, pedagogical classes or colleges, classes and colleges, this is kind of one question, when there is a professional this segregation in schools is so well directed, second, when kids go to lyceums and colleges after ninth grade and then return to you to finish their higher education, as for

college graduates. that indeed many of them go to get an education by correspondence, and this is natural, since they already have a specialized secondary education, this figure is also growing every year, but the most important thing is that our contingent is, of course, graduates of pedagogical classes, we have about a quarter of them to ours, to our university, to all faculties, and in general this system built very clearly, once the head of state supported the idea of ​​​​creating pedagogical classes. and today this system works, if 10 years ago we started with 100 pedagogical classes, in which a little more than 1.0 people studied, then last year, for example, there were already more than 800 such classes, in which almost 8,000 children are studying, classes were created evenly throughout country, this system is justifying itself, and we see that these are guys who are not just good, they study very well, they are socially active.

again, only as a mother, we are talking here about the fact that professional education is not necessarily higher, you, as a mother of three children, could you consider if, for example, your child says, mom, after the ninth grade i will go to college, or is this stereotyping, well, it seems to me, also quite normal, that a child should get a higher education, she wins, no, she doesn’t win, despite what i

said that i...

essentially , this is essentially what we are talking about today

about education, my colleague alena syrova is now on a business trip, so i’m alone on the site, and my guests, aleksandrovich, the question is in my ear, which means our editors say, specifically, it’s almost utilitarian.

translators from foreign languages, historians, this is somewhere there, and where is the journalism department, we respect the journalism department very much, but such a profession is needed, i absolutely believe that the journalism department trains professional journalists, but in our profession there are a lot of humanities specialists, so there is such a story, tatyana mikhalovna, the question for you is not at all about education, but unfortunately about graduation, huh? and again, we are talking about the fact that over the last few years, this is the vanity of graduates and families of graduates, it has been knocked down, because, for example, i found out in some companies that organized holidays that one graduate paid about 600 dollars for

to arrange a whole release, well, let’s say, five years ago, a limousine, a club, a dj, and so on and so forth, this year many people are indignant, but at the same time, again, my personal opinion is that everything has been done absolutely right, because sometimes... this dust in the eyes that graduates throw is not needed, so you, as the director of an educational institution, like this, this is how you see it all, how you perceived it before, that ’s it , what you see now, because 5 years ago at this time people were running around, buying i don’t know what, music was blaring, they were ordering djs, now everything is very smart , everything is quiet, i’ll probably say from the point of view of my experience, because i started . my career as a teacher-organizer, for more than 20 years i have been in education and uh, in my time there was no such graduation party, when, for example, it was organized by outside organizations, because they tried, well, the tenth and eleventh grade prepared the children for the fact that

there would be a graduation, and as a rule, work with parents begins at the beginning of the eleventh grade, what do they want, what kind of request regarding graduation and it is explained in such a way that graduation is a solemn event. it usually follows a certain protocol; the second part, when it’s more entertaining, well, you know what i’ll say so, probably, lately this... is not very welcome among graduates and parents, because the program is structured in such a way that the ceremonial part is quite long, because well, you need to tell about everyone, after all, he studied at school, and they try to make eyeliners for every graduate that are so good and colorful, that’s why the ceremonial part usually lasts a long time, then the entertaining part, where children can communicate, some competitions, some kind of interactive activities in the class, well, among the class, and how the rule is already...

the state is to blame for all this, of course, but i, for example, watched the last graduation, the last call, which was arranged in the minsk arena, well, this is actually such an alternative to all these limousines, what, well on the other hand, and at the same time, when you talk at school, i understand perfectly well that many parents are not ready to pay such huge money, it turns out that, relatively speaking, three people in a class, for example, will not pay, they will be outcasts, what is psychological, we are talking about that the whole story is that because of

a certain group of parents, the whole class was sometimes forced to follow the lead, because the amounts you mentioned, we understand that this is not the opportunity of every belarusian family today to take and give , you had to think, look, someone just takes and pulls, unfortunately, the educational institution at a certain period simply said, this is the parent committee, but we are returning it all, thanks to the leaders

who will tell us that the institution does not need to go, you give us the document, which is on our screen right now during the program, yes, well, excuse me, how the class teacher worked throughout the year with the parent committee and not only throughout the year, he already knows, excuse me, in the tenth, eleventh, he knows the potential of each parent, their preferences, priorities, so everything is still built, that’s how it’s right, throughout the whole year, don’t wait until march there, and then oops, and we already have some conditions and frameworks through which.

maybe there are some specialties, well there with the conditions for the development of the it industry, artificial intelligence or something else that is also available in secondary, secondary specialized and vocational education. place to be, yeah, well, we already know that this year 157 educational institutions are accepting admissions to the level of vocational education , 162 colleges and 36 branches of universities, gymnasiums, art colleges, olympic reserve schools, to the level of secondary specialized education, that

is we have a list of specialties in vocational and technical secondary specialized education is very diverse, from cultural studies to strength,

this is laboratory analysis, this is the operation of measuring instruments, that is, all specialties speak for themselves, the most top and trending, let's call it that, it turns out that it is not always higher education, well, i think that really at the level of secondary specialized education, at the level of vocational education , you can get an interesting profession that is in demand in the economy and

highly paid, well, if we again we say that some kind of survey should be conducted about what specialties will be in demand for us until 2030, then i understand that you are, as it were

, in adult life or is this only circulating among schoolchildren? well, again, you need to understand that the competitive situation depends on how many applicants submit documents with certain results, and there are specialties where the passing scores are higher, well, as alexander ivanovich rightly noted, for example, in pedagogical specialties we today see an increase passing scores and the number of excellent students who enter these specialties, that is, here this work must be carried out comprehensively and in a system. that is, we must conduct career guidance, create additional trajectories for our gifted and talented applicants, increase the number of targeted places that are approved, here i will also support alexandra nikolaevna, here. this year for all levels of education and vocational education, vocational education, secondary specialized and higher education

the numbers of admissions under the conditions of targeted training have significantly increased, but they talk, and they talk back, there is less, less talk like they are recruiting less, i already understand that this is stupidity, but they are spreading this particular news, not in any case, that ’s what we’re talking about and it was said, we see that the target is becoming popular, you clearly understand the connection to the workplace and this is your future, well, this is this again.

employers and the university enter into a corresponding agreement, for example, in our university, future specialists, their parents, in recent years, the numbers for targeted enrollment have been growing, this year there is another increase, we will recruit a third of the intake for the targeted form of training, this means the guys will know where they will come, yeah. education day and what they will do there, the situation has changed places, that paid workers are now, forgive me for such a word, crying, that they cannot be distributed, because sometimes finding the first good job, i emphasize, good, is not always possible, but when you graduate from university, you have a distribution, you know 100% what your career is and how at least 2 years of your professional career will, in principle, be excellent, what an employer needs is experience in addition to education in the modern world, you will definitely have experience that will... now more and more often payers are applying for distribution, here we have these numbers at the university have grown recently, why? because

firstly, a guarantee of employment, secondly, benefits and forms of support, and so on, i’ll emphasize again, we just have a dictatorship, all our rights have been taken away, even paid workers envy your dictatorship in many ways friends, i understand this perfectly well, at the end of last year, about 200 of us paid students were on... today we allow applicants from russia to enroll based on the results of the unified state exam, which they take

in their country, there are about a thousand places in our universities, in this year, such a number of places were approved just for citizens of the russian federation, we believe that these applicants will take advantage of this trajectory and will indeed undergo training in our educational institutions, but again we will reassure applicants if this is the case it will happen that these places will not be filled. practices of education, training, among other things, we saw that over these 30 years, in general,

we have distanced ourselves a little, we have separated, we have a curriculum somewhere , you tweak the programs until we don’t twist, we we find common ground and see where we can be useful to each other, but probably the most basic component of education, where we are definitely useful to each other, is education, you know, education and...

this platform is expanding, a platform of advanced experience and mutual enrichment, what natalya vladimirovna is talking about, well, i would also like to add in relation to pedagogical classes, we are now working very closely with the russian federation, they i will now ask you a question that everyone here is writing, but how is it that the history of russia and belarus is united, that’s how it is, these are all the pedagogical classes, the association, we all work here together, that’s how we’re already tired of answering this question, but we have one subject

of the history of belarus and russia, that’s blue history belarus. included means in the course there is no world history of the history of belarus, so what? where is there no history of belarus? here they are telling us there from over the hill. well , maybe something happened to them, i don’t know where they lost the thread altogether, well, no, we know where they lost it, yes, but it’s a common story, we actually have corresponding textbooks on common milestones with colleagues from the russian the federation has written that what is not discussed regarding the great patriotic war is tsikledi.

aimed, well, so that, first of all, parents and applicants understand the real cost of belarusian education and realized accordingly, that is , how much the state pays itself extra, it’s the same story, as you rightly say, about tickets, about housing and communal services, yes, education is exactly the same story when the state, even when you study, as we usually say, on a paid basis, yes, they also pay extra for you if you are a citizen of the republic of belarus, i understand that all sorts of insinuations have begun here.

well, this is a form of social order, but the state orders it for teachers, right, this is the most important story, that is , let’s just say, which teachers will you graduate? this year, we will graduate as many teachers as ordered, by the way

, the education system is an issue in this plan, the budget is not the budget. spheres where, as it were, the order is determined, if in the real sector in some industries market fluctuations are possible, then everything is clear with us, we know how many children we have in preschool institutions today, how many students. in basic school and so on, so what else is good about the teaching profession? she is very significant for the country, for the future of the country, at the same time she has a very high social status, a teacher today, here is one of the key figures in the future of our country, well , this is a good saying, yes, what if we don’t teach our children, then the enemies will come and teach them, then, in fact, we will understand this, at school i ask the last question. at school, how, let’s say, do you motivate the children so that they, well, do not always focus on the future with commercialism, but as we say, a social position, pride, pedagogy, medicine, these

are things like, as people say, this is a complex, complex work and society is now working, and the state is working for this, and we are also working for this internally, we are now paying very serious attention to working with parents, in including the pros... orientation work with parents so that they understand how to choose a profession, well, forgive me for being straightforward, we educate parents, but the school should teach or educate, in one word, the school should educate, and that means teaching , education is ahead of education, today it costs two weeks, we are already living in anticipation of the exams and grades that our... schoolchildren, when they come from school, bring them, in fact, for many this is really a new life, a new road, perhaps this is why we are so sensitive to this, because this is our future, and you know, the future is still

a strategy, our country lives in the future and this is the investment in our children, in our teachers - this is exactly what it is that same future.