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belarus. expert of the belarusian institute for strategic studies. good afternoon, colleagues and guests. good afternoon. good afternoon. good afternoon. and today we will talk about security, about military security, and information security. therefore, today we have both a journalist and an expert, a military man, you could say, an expert. on our borders, at least in the north and in the west, it is uneasy. and in the south

too. ukraine is raging on the borders with russia, poland and the baltics are militarizing very intensively, although it must be said that belarus was able to reach an agreement with ukraine, and ukraine withdrew its troops from our borders in july, this, of course, is the merit of the president of belarus and the security council, this is such a kind of confirmation of the fact that over 30 years. the security council has become a very serious structure that is taken into account. and i wonder, leonid fransovich, you saw the first steps of formation in ninety-four in august, when the president signed one of the first decrees on the creation of the security council, how was this structure formed, how difficult was it, can you remember how it happened?

well, of course, august. in this regard, igor sergeyevich, i probably think that you, like no one else, remember those times and in general, what kind of morale there was in the troops, you were an active officer then, yes, i will say honestly, it was very difficult morally, i agree with leonid frantsevich, it was, we did nothing, we did not do anything, what the army was supposed to do. i came back in 1992 from the western group of forces, where combat training was practically going on around the clock. i ended up, if you can call it that, in a quagmire where officers, well, were simply trying

to survive, combat training was not carried out, there was no maintenance of equipment, because there were no spare parts, no fuel and lubricants, in a word, they were just trying to survive. and as a breath of fresh air, of course, 1994, the election of the head of state, the first decision to create a security council, to create a state secretariat, to make specific decisions, at that time there was not even a concept of national security, and the military doctrine, which was adopted by the supreme council, in principle did not reflect objective reality and was simply about nothing, moreover, it was of a closed nature, so, with the election of the head of state, a decision was immediately made to create a scientific commission under the leadership of academician babosov, which was engaged in development of the concept of national

security and already in the ninety-fifth year the first concept of national security of the republic of belarus was adopted, which served as, let's say, a guiding star that determined the main directions of the construction of the entire military organization of the state, the main directions of the development of our state. yes, it was imperfect, so it changed over the years, here is the latest extreme concept of national security adopted by our seventh belarusian national assembly, but after all challenges are changing, time is passing, we see that if in the nineties, at the beginning of the 2000s , western countries behaved a little more diplomatically or even behaved diplomatically, let's say, then... today the masks have been dropped, it is already

being openly said that belarus, russia - well, these are real enemies, they put it in their concept, of course, we, probably, were even obliged to reconsider our approaches, our views, our conceptual views on how to behave, how to react, how to protect ourselves, we are a peace-loving country, we a country that strives to always resolve all issues through negotiations, by the way, we do. again, with the same ukraine, through negotiations, the most difficult negotiations, we came to the decision that we must live in peace, we are neighbors, you can't choose your neighbors, as the president of belarus says. the west has always pursued and is pursuing its own selfish goals, then in these years too, because at that time after the collapse of the soviet union, the republic of belarus, in fact, turned out to be the most militarized state in europe. there was one serviceman for every 43 citizens. if we compare it with the russian federation, for example, there was one military incident

for every 634 civilians. in belarus there was a huge group, 81 intercontinental ballistic missiles, this is , in fact, well, this is such a nuclear fist that allowed the whole world to be wiped out by and large. and the west was vitally interested in our, our. belarus these various enslaving agreements on the reduction of both nuclear and conventional weapons, which, naturally, the country, which was actually ungovernable, began actively pretend to live, well, what does it say even, let's say, about the withdrawal of the same nuclear weapons, according to the agreements, we

had to withdraw all these 81 missiles, 81 carriers of a nuclear charge in 7 years by 2001, but we began to do this so zealously under the west's tune that in fact, already in the first half of 1990 we finished this process and completely completed it in 1996, only thanks to the head of state, as leonid frantich said, we stopped this process, unfortunately, the withdrawal of nuclear

weapons was no longer possible. we filmed how they left the angaras, how they went to the station, how they loaded into the cars, i filmed the last day, when

they were invited to this ceremony... yes, igor sergeyevich, let's move on to today, yes, in 1996 we did what we had to do, fortunately or unfortunately, but it is a fact. and this must be recognized, we must live with it, today we returned nuclear weapons, well, not all of them, of course, and not on the same scale, not in the same volumes, but we returned nuclear weapons to our country, thanks to our brothers, the russians,

what does this mean for us and what, how will this affect our relations with the collective west, i will say this, it was, mm, probably a hard-won decision, a hard-won decision by our people, our head of state, we were forced to do this, today there are 150 american tactical nuclear weapons deployed on the territory of five countries, the general equi threat of escalation of the conflict, including nuclear, it is increasingly, let's say, coming in this difficult time of ours, there are such hours, you know, yes, where the arrow shows how much is left until this apocalypse, so this arrow just stopped there literally a few seconds from this world tragedy, and

today the situation is such that the strongest survive, only those states that are conducting an independent independent... were forced to turn to the russian federation and can defend themselves, in this situation, we , the federation, and thank you to the leadership of the russian federation, the leadership of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, that they went to us towards us and placed ammunition on our territory, special ones, which provide us, we now, by and large, we simply

became. and why? and why? everything is correct. whoever needs it, knows. i will say this, we have enough of them, enough ammunition, as delivery vehicles. you know that today we are armed with the most modern powerful missile system operational-tactical iskander. we

are armed with carrier aircraft, carriers of special ammunition. su-25, our pilots our... missilemen have gone through a full cycle training and are ready to use these munitions, perhaps you noticed when the chief of the twelfth main directorate of the general staff of the russian federation gave a commentary to television, primarily russian, he gave it against the background of our plane, into which our pilot was boarding, this indicates that the whole world now knows: belarus has these nuclear munitions, and we, if necessary, are ready to use them, despite all the militarization, what is happening in poland, yes, the concentration of troops to our borders, what is happening in the baltics, barbed walls, hedgehogs for

anti-tank and anti-personnel, which are being installed on our border, why, will this... save them, especially since we are not going to attack them, well, my deep conviction is that there is just one big, continuous, huge embezzlement of another money supply, on this hype, hype, incomprehensible threats from russia and belarus, they are trying to cash in on money, well , as for poland, here of course we also need to look at them with caution, unfortunately, militarization. poland is making great strides, literally today - there was a statement by the polish leadership that those f-35 aircraft, which were planned to be delivered 32 aircraft. by the end of 2030 will be delivered in 2026, and this is,

let's say, a large striking force, again today it became known that the polish government signed a contract with boeing, about the delivery of 96 combat helicopters, and this is already on top of the fact that contracts have already been signed with south korea, all this coupled with statements by the polish government about creating an army of 300,000, because in fact, if such a huge army is created in europe, it will be, well, poland becomes, let's say, the military locomotive of western europe, the military locomotive and the us is betting on this state with some kind of exorbitant ambitions, which still

remember, what is there to remember, what is there to hide, they still cherish hope, and poland from may to may, this is their concept, which pilsus once pushed through, it is still in their minds, they dream of eastern kresakh, and we must keep our powder dry, we are acting adequately. we are adequately reacting to this developing situation, showing, first of all , our neighbors and the whole world that you can’t talk to us from a position of strength. well, by the way, just these days the command and staff exercises of the northwestern operational command of our country are being held, here ’s an interesting point, i’ll quote now, the number of ... participants in the exercise, as well as the number of main weapons systems does not exceed the parameters determined by the vienna document of the eleventh year, which

are subject to notification, that is, i want you to comment on this point, at the same time i want to say that we are not sleeping, as they say, in our hats, but are engaged in training, we are engaged in training our troops, monitoring what is happening on our borders, on those lines just... and we are conducting exercises, i understand correctly, absolutely right, uh, as far as the vienna document is concerned, the republic of belarus is a party to many international agreements on limitation, both ordinary weapons in europe, so on the limitation of various types of military activity on the territory of the state, but uh, unfortunately, all these international agreements do not work today, but the republic of belarus for now... its good will, each time conducting some exercises, some actions

, large-scale maneuvers, it always adheres to those international agreements that were signed by our leadership, and even in the case when, let's say, the number exceeds, we are always ready and invite international observers, primarily military, but unfortunately, they do not always come and respond to these invitations. that is, they ignore, unfortunately, the west today ignores all those agreements on, let's say, the demilitarization of the european continent, agreements on maintaining peace on the european continent, but we always adhere to these agreements, we are reliable partners, we want good-neighborly , peaceful relations, but at the same time our armed forces are constantly carrying out... a set of measures to improve combat mobilization readiness, to improve readiness for action in various conditions of the situation, this is

the command staff exercise, since you read the press release, you probably noticed what goals are set for this exercise, this includes issues of using groups of unmanned aerial vehicles, which is one of the most pressing topics today, these are issues of using missiles. troops and artillery, counter-battery warfare, even the head of state is already speaking on all levels that this is the main issue today, and we see that during the conflict in ukraine, by and large, this is one of the difficulties that the russian army has to overcome today, this is counter-battery warfare, this is the fight against unmanned aerial vehicles, respectively, the use of our own unmanned aerial vehicles, that is. our armed forces are keeping up with the times, learning what is needed today in war, in today 's modern war, and thus, by

and large, we keep our powder dry and... we show, again, to all the people who do not want to be friends with us, that it is impossible to talk to us from a position of strength. tell me, igor sergeyevich, you are there in brest, how do you feel about the situation on the southern border, and as a person, as a military expert and as an analyst, i will say this, the situation on the southern border is also very difficult and tense today. and this is felt even in the relationships in the lives of people who live in district centers, in small settlements on the border with ukraine, yes, today there is no shooting there, yes, today there more or less calmly, but you know, all the same, nevertheless, today , it’s already the middle of 2024

, the beginning of... the return of the communication that existed before the start of the svo, between various relatives, friends, acquaintances, if in february of 2022 communication ceased, in fact completely, was reduced to zero, then today ukrainians are initiating communication with relatives on belarusian territory, of course, communication takes place via the internet, mainly, i communicate with... i have to communicate with different categories of citizens, everyone is saying that the people of ukraine are beginning to understand that they have been led into a dead end, from which it will be very difficult to get out, as for this, this is a positive signal, you have just given us such good information, yes, as for our actions,

of course, the border service agencies have to serve in an enhanced mode. we are always ready for provocations, the armed forces unit is also constantly on constant alert, here in brest we have the 38th airborne assault brigade, literally a few days on the second day we celebrated the day of the paratroopers of the special operations forces, i met with the brigade commander, with the commander of the special operations forces, the situation is difficult, in fact, a serviceman... the brigades are constantly in areas of strengthening the state border, well, what can i say, we have to keep all of our people on edge, all our forces in order to prevent what literally happened today in the same kursk region, well, there is some kind of chaos there, well

let's say, the ukrainian armed forces have reached tactical suddenly. well, then the situation has already begun to develop not according to the scenarios that we would probably like to see, but i think that it will cope, russia is a strong country and will cope with this, there are, yes, some deep fakes appear, incomprehensible statements, allegedly from the regional leadership, that's what i wanted to say, that artificial intelligence today is... the most terrible, most powerful weapon, analysts have spoken about this, experts have spoken about this, even elon musk himself has spoken about it, that artificial intelligence is a terrible weapon and it will destroy the world, and we see how this technology is developing, how much ukrainians are using it against russia today, when with the face of the acting governor

of the kursk region, with the help of. the first year of the brandenburg regiment on the territory of our belarus, these were people dressed in soviet military uniforms who moved along the roads along which refugees were retreating, units of the red army were retreating, spreading false rumors, causing chaos, panic, rows of units, the same thing is being done now, only with the use

of new technologies, artificial intelligence and so on, well, the world does not... stand still, everything is developing, but the patterns remain the same, here we probably need to talk more and more about information security, and let's say this way, about the fact that we should only trust verified sources, and in no case panic, and not give in to those feelings that can sometimes instantly overwhelm a person, as one smart person said, well, let's count at least to five think about what is happening, here is how to check them, leonid frantsovich, how can an ordinary person check these sources,

who sees the face of the governor, our security, created our military television company, actually, as one of the means, not only, so to speak, to show the life of the army, but also to counter the information attacks that were happening at that time not only from the west, but from the east, from russia too, by the way, there were very strong attacks, our television company over these years, over we also 30 years... recently celebrated, in my opinion, has done quite a lot to to show people that we have an army in belarus, that this army is trained, dressed,

shod, equipped with the latest weapons, in general , ready to carry out the surrender, as we say, the military by design, i will give you one interesting example, we sent several episodes of the arsenal program to one of the international competitions, there was an international competition, here is a comment from an israeli journalist, she writes that i always thought that the strongest army in the world is ours, the israeli army, but when i looked at the arsenal, i not confidently anymore, that is, it worked, that is , we are talking about the fact that we are successfully coping, but in any case, we managed to reach

the level of belarus. in the air defense units deployed along the border, these are the regional technical troops and the anti-aircraft missile troops, and as a former head of the radar station, i always go into the cockpit and 30 aircraft, nato countries, different aircraft, they are constantly testing us to the tooth, yes, to the tooth, yes, they are constantly testing us to the tooth, and apparently, after all - they understand that having deployed such a powerful air defense system, especially since it is part of the joint regional air defense group of russia and belarus, they are not

taking risks yet, they are not taking risks yet, they are taking risks, so to speak, well, some small drones, they are taking risks, it is necessary that this confidence of theirs that they should not go to belarus, be constantly reinforced, well , they are breaking their teeth on different... and we still live on the same continent, on this one large, but piece of land, we must find a common language, we must learn

understand each other, and i am sure that sooner or later this will happen, thank you very much, i will remind you that today in our studio we had a veteran of military journalism leonid dubanevich and retired major general. expert of the belarusian institute for strategic studies igor korol. thank you very much for this interesting conversation, for this talk. all the best to you, see you later, take care of yourself. traveling is not only about getting to know history and sights.

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